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I will never vote for Donald Trump

Posted on 04/08/2011 8:42:17 PM PDT by Jean S

Good grief people! Too many are jumping on the Trump bandwagon solely because of the Obama birth certificate.

Do you really want this man as your next president?


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KEYWORDS: 2012election; betterthanobama; certifigate; election2012; loveshillary; lovesjfkerry; naturalborncitizen; novotefortrump; serialadulterer; trump; trumpsaliberal; vanity
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To: neverbluffer

So, When did Obama ever run Casino’s?


201 posted on 04/09/2011 8:07:17 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Bridge_toofar

So if Michelle Bachmann runs you’ll vote for Trump? If Sarah Palin runs you’ll vote for Trump?


202 posted on 04/09/2011 8:10:44 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Jean S

I’m with you. Will never, ever vote for this guy. Mike Bloomberg with a bad haircut. Loves the clintons, loves j effin kerry. Frankly it’s getting harder and harder to come to the site and see all the pro-trump articles.

Doubt he becomes the nominee, but if he does, I stay home and change my party affliation.

End of story.


203 posted on 04/09/2011 9:07:14 AM PDT by Holen1 (Chesapeake Bay seasoning. "I put that **** on everything.")
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To: Jean S

I really don’t see him running... he does this every season. I think it makes his ratings pop.

A little controversy never hurt anyone... and the Donald can pull it off... he’s already seen as eccentric and flamboyant.


204 posted on 04/09/2011 9:38:58 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Lucky9teen

Thanks for that succinct rundown of Trump’s policy positions. It was very helpful.

Right now I’m burned out with DC Republicans. They actively participated in a political process that created an unsustainable, economy-crushing debt. To say they’re better than Dems is faint praise, when we’re looking at a simply incomprehensible debt burden. I don’t know if Trump would be a radical enough budget slasher. What I do know is that he’s fearless of the MSM, and he’s a rock-bottom patriot who loves the USA. I’m favorably inclined toward him.


205 posted on 04/09/2011 10:16:19 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter
Trump did an extensive interview with the newspaper Human Events in March. The whole interview can be read here: Can Donald Trump Save America? Some excepts can be read here: Non-foreign Policy Quotes. Here are some highlights:
Trump on ObamaCare

If I run and if I win there will not be ObamaCare because it’s ruining a lot of companies. I have friends who own small companies, and they’re going to close those companies up because they can’t afford ObamaCare. It will not exist very long if I’m president.

Trump on pro-life conversion

I have changed my mind, yes. And a lot of people have changed their mind. And I’ve changed my mind because I’ve known people that have had children over the last number of years…I am pro-life.
Melania and Donald Trump
Yes, he says he's friends with Bloomberg and Guliani, and no, he doesn't like George Bush's presidency.

I am waiting for the answer to the following question:

Trump on the Supreme Court Justice he most admires

I don’t think I want to get into that at this moment, I think it’s a little too soon to get into that. I’ll be answering questions such as that if I decide to run. I have to tell you, I know numerous of the Justices and I don’t want to insult any of them to be honest with you by saying that I particularly admire one. There is one that I admire very much, but I don’t want to insult anybody by discussing the one I most admire because I know a number of them.
If the Donald's favorite justice is Kennedy or worse, he's out. If it's Alito or better, I will seriously consider him.

I would encourage you to read the article yourself and make up your own mind. Trump has certainly "evolved" in his views. I know for many on this thread that's an automatic disqualifier. Yet I also know that, although rare, people do change. You make up your own mind on that score. I am amazed at the amount of misinformation/one-sided info that has appeared on this thread.

206 posted on 04/09/2011 12:36:04 PM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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To: Texas Fossil

That dog must be gorgeous.


207 posted on 04/09/2011 12:45:22 PM PDT by doesnt suffer fools gladly (Liberals lie.)
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To: Lucky9teen
An interesting read, although I'm a little skeptical of this guy's authenticity. Nevertheless, his analyses are often very astute, whatever the genuineness of his source. I do think his source underestimates Palin. Nevertheless, we Palin fans have to admit that she is polling weak at the moment and her negatives are high. I agree that Trump could well be a strong horse if things keep going the way they are. A lot can happen between now and summer 2012.
208 posted on 04/09/2011 12:51:57 PM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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To: Jean S

Trump is for Universal Healthcare? Where does he stand on Obamacare?


209 posted on 04/09/2011 12:52:14 PM PDT by doesnt suffer fools gladly (Liberals lie.)
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To: ishmac

That’s a real tease on the SC Justice. I wonder when he will clarify that loose end. It really does matter. (I had already read parts of this interview. I hadn’t read the favorite justice part, though.)


210 posted on 04/09/2011 1:35:48 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

My son’s Australian Shepherd, “Molly”, is a beautiful light Red Merle color with 1 blue eye and the best disposition I have ever seen. She simply loves everyone.


211 posted on 04/09/2011 1:37:40 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
Where does he stand on Obamacare?

He recently made this declaration during his interview with Human Events:

Trump on ObamaCare

If I run and if I win there will not be ObamaCare because it’s ruining a lot of companies. I have friends who own small companies, and they’re going to close those companies up because they can’t afford ObamaCare. It will not exist very long if I’m president.
For those of you who aren't readers, you can see a video of Trump saying as much to the CNS news service here: Trump says Obamacare is Unconstitutional.

The curious can inform themselves about Trump's current stands on the issues at Human Events' website. In mid-March they conducted an extensive interview with the Donald. The full interview can be read here: Can Donald Trump Save America?. Excepts can be read here: Trump Unplugged. Non-readers can watch video snippets of the interview at these links:

Trump Would Bag Billions From China to Fund U.S. Entitlement Programs
Trump: I Can Bring Rush Limbaugh & Howard Stern Fans Together
Donald Trump: 'I'm a Committed Republican'
Donald Trump: American Airports are "Third World"
Trump on the Somali Pirates: "I Would Wipe Them Off the Face of the Earth."
The intrigued, but skeptical can read Ted Nugent's article on Trump here: Ted Nugent is cautiously intrigued by Trump, but Trump must lay cards on the table. Human Events is a very conservative newspaper. Back in the day it was said that HE was Ronald Reagan's favorite newspaper. I hope these links provide the curious with the latest on Trump. I don't think Trump's most recent statements should be given the silent treatment when coming to a comprehensive opinion about Trump.
212 posted on 04/09/2011 1:50:30 PM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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To: Fantasywriter
Yeah, a lot hinges on that favorite supreme court justice for me. And not just with Trump, but with every candidate. He or she will have to go on record with promises before the final presidential campaign begins and be held to the "deal" if elected. We can probably expect a "Harriet Miers" episode or two even if a republican wins. This is why we need to make the federal Congress (House and Senate) more Tea-Party-like in the next election. We must insulate ourselves against whoever wins the Presidency. In fact, our number one task (besides defeating the Kenyan) is to support the ascendancy of the Tea Party at every level of government, from the US Senate to the local school board.
213 posted on 04/09/2011 2:09:25 PM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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To: ishmac

Since Trump, if he runs, would be seeking the Republican nomination, and is obviously trying to establish his conservative cred, it would be incredibly stupid for him to name Kennedy or one of the moonbats. If he names a staunch conservative, the question would be how deeply held his convictions are.

On the plus side, if the BC issue plays out the way many think it will, the Dems and the MSM will be badly damaged. It will be harder for them to succeed with their usual, ‘If this conservative judge is confirmed, the world will come to an end’ routine.

Also, Trump would fight for his nominee. He would get in front of the cameras and make the Dems look like jerks for acting in their usual bastardly manner. So providing he made a good nomination, the odds of confirmation would be better than with the run-of-the-mill GOPer who folds when the Dem din hits its typical crescendo.


214 posted on 04/09/2011 2:25:32 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter
If he names a staunch conservative, the question would be how deeply held his convictions are.

By all accounts, Trump is totally serious about running for President this time. Huckabee is the latest to state that Trump is in it for real this time (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/huckabee-lauds-trump-2012-bid-but-obamas-birthplace-not-a-big-deal-to-me/). And if Trump is serious, how far would he go to satisfy his ambition? Although not really a social conservative, would the White House be "well worth a conservative justice or two," to paraphrase Henry IV of France? (He was a Huguenot during the Reformation religious wars. He wanted to become the King of France, and needed to convert to the Catholic Church to do so. He is alleged to have said, "Paris is well worth a Mass"). That story may be apocryphal, but ambitious people will do almost anything to get what they want. What would Trump do?

215 posted on 04/09/2011 2:53:32 PM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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To: Jean S

One thing for sure:

Donald Trump is an American...


216 posted on 04/09/2011 2:54:20 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: ishmac

“ambitious people will do almost anything to get what they want. What would Trump do?”

Right now he’s pounding Barry like a jackhammer. And he will keep it up, as he slowly but steadily increases the power and frequency of the blows.

The problem for Barry and his handlers is how Barry handles stress. He admits that he self medicates—all the way up to cocaine—and this the one part of Dreams I believe. Alcohol is presumably more available to him under the circumstances than cocaine, and there is ample evidence he makes full use of it. I’ve seen pics where anybody not wearing full on blinders knows Barry has a hangover the size of Manhattan.

Nothing about this situation is going to improve as Trump ups the ante. Sure, people have been predicting a meltdown for a while now. It’s on its way. The vacations are coming ever more quickly on the heels of each other. Does anyone doubt that the availability of substances other than alcohol are one reason for them? Barry is a trainwreck waiting to happen; Trump is just kicking it into a higher gear.


217 posted on 04/09/2011 3:13:04 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: rockinqsranch

Bachmann is at top of my list right now. She has better delivery of speech than Palin, and has better grasp of details. They are both pretty close in terms of their agenda. Trump is also very high on my list. I won’t make up my final decision in the primaries until after observing the debates.


218 posted on 04/09/2011 3:20:30 PM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Islam grows silently like cancer and when large enough it kills the host)
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To: rockinqsranch

Bachmann is at top of my list right now. She has better delivery of speech than Palin, and has better grasp of details. They are both pretty close in terms of their agenda. Trump is also very high on my list. I won’t make up my final decision in the primaries until after observing the debates.


219 posted on 04/09/2011 3:20:30 PM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Islam grows silently like cancer and when large enough it kills the host)
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To: Fantasywriter
I believe Obama has a very fragile psyche. It's been predicted by some that he would not make it through his first term because of medical problems (possibly mental). Yeah, he could be headed for a real crack-up. That would be bad for us and for the world.
220 posted on 04/09/2011 3:52:22 PM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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To: ishmac

It would be bad and good. Along with the obvious downside, it would slap a few of the more disconnected voters up side the head, and teach them to stop (1) trusting the MSM, and (2) basing their choice on stupid criteria.


221 posted on 04/09/2011 4:09:14 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter
I think we may all get slapped upside the head if the economy really goes sideways. We may be in for some sort of mass trial/tribulation.
222 posted on 04/09/2011 4:21:25 PM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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To: ishmac

If so, it will be an opportunity to place in God the kind of child-like trust that is the only kind that truly pleases Him.


223 posted on 04/09/2011 4:30:45 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Persevero
it is my opinion that Americans see the Donald as an economic winner. And that is what people want right now, more than anything.

You have that right and I think by election time it'll be 100% across the board. By then we'll be in ssuch dire straights people won't care what color you are, who you've slept with, etc. because those issues don't pay their bills. We'll all be hurting.

224 posted on 04/12/2011 4:59:53 PM PDT by caww
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To: Jean S
Do you really want this man as your next president?

More than I want another stupid vanity post about him.............and that ain't much.

225 posted on 04/12/2011 5:05:41 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Our technology has surpassed our humanity........AE)
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To: Revel
kind of arrogant. I don’t know if the guy could ever be humble.

Of course he is...that's what is needed right now in this country...someone who can pack it and not care if anyone likes it or not. He's for America...yet knows the culture and foreign dignitaries and polices well enough that they can't pull the wool over his eyes. Otherwise you play games with the Donald...no deal.

226 posted on 04/12/2011 5:12:15 PM PDT by caww
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To: rlmorel
I don’t trust him. Period.

Since when can a politician be trusted to adhere to everyones idea of what a politician should be, do, or say. Certainly Romney you can't, nor the rest of the pack running..they've all renigged or played close to the wire. There is no such thing as trust in a political candidate...but we can sure hope they'll accomplish a portion of what we want.

227 posted on 04/12/2011 5:19:34 PM PDT by caww
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To: Jean S

Mack / Donald 2012!


228 posted on 04/12/2011 5:22:00 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Holen1
Doubt he becomes the nominee, but if he does, I stay home and change my party affliation.

Might be better you just stay home. Are you sure this place is where you belong? Using a threat? Maybe there's another place more suitable for you.

229 posted on 04/12/2011 5:24:43 PM PDT by caww
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To: harpu

LOL!


230 posted on 04/12/2011 5:27:11 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: caww

I don’t trust him to do anything. In my opinion, it isn’t about some kind of infantile trust where I am thinking he might do a percentage of what I agree with, this guy is all over the map on nearly every subject.

I think it is great that he is bringing up the citizenship issue. But I don’t even have any expectation he would be good for business if he were elected. There are a lot of uber-liberals who have made scads of money, but I don’t want them anywhere near the policy making part of government.

Would I vote for him over Obama if it came to that? I’d vote for a dog turd over Obama. But we need better than that.


231 posted on 04/12/2011 6:56:49 PM PDT by rlmorel (Capitalism is the Goose that lays The Golden Egg.)
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To: caww
You're ready to vote for a serial adulterer, liberal, lying, hillary loving, traitor jfkerry loving, rahm supporting, queer-rights supporting, abortionist (until recently, how convenient) egomaniac...and I'm on the wrong site? With fools like you here, maybe you're right.
232 posted on 04/13/2011 4:16:13 AM PDT by Holen1 (Chesapeake Bay seasoning. "I put that **** on everything.")
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To: Holen1

I didn’t say I’ll vote for him, but I’m not saying I won’t either. I will vote for whoever can win over BO...I certainly won’t sit home on my butt as you stated.

Our men died so I have the priviledge to vote...I will vote.


233 posted on 04/13/2011 4:32:15 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

So you’ll vote for a scumbag just to vote. That makes sense.


234 posted on 04/13/2011 4:35:25 AM PDT by Holen1 (Chesapeake Bay seasoning. "I put that **** on everything.")
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To: Holen1

I will vote.


235 posted on 04/13/2011 4:38:53 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Well, I don’t like to argue with fellow FReepers. So, good luck and have a nice day.


236 posted on 04/13/2011 4:42:22 AM PDT by Holen1 (Chesapeake Bay seasoning. "I put that **** on everything.")
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To: Jean S

237 posted on 04/13/2011 4:51:50 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP is now a culture of compromise. And that's not a compliment.)
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