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Landslide! It looks like Waterloo in Wisconsin for government unions.
WSJ ^ | APRIL 8, 2011 | James Taranto

Posted on 04/09/2011 3:26:02 PM PDT by rhema

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But whereas we thought Kloppenburg had a real chance of beating Prosser, we've always been skeptical to the point of incredulity about the prospects for recalling Republican senators. That's because under Wisconsin law, an official has to have served for a year before being subject to recall. That shields both Walker and all Republican lawmakers who replaced Democrats in last year's election. As Wisconsin senators serve four-year terms, only those who survived the Democratic sweep of 2006 or 2008 can be recalled.

It only gets worse for Wisconsin Democrats. Kloppenburg's campaign implied--though in her "victory" press conference she robotically denied--that she would provide the deciding vote on the court to overturn Walker's reforms. Her defeat means that those reforms will soon take effect unless they have an actual legal defect.

One of the most important reforms is that union dues will become voluntary. State and local government will no longer take money out of their employees' paychecks and hand it over to the unions. This is likely to be the last Wisconsin election in which the Democrats have the advantage of support from organizations with the power to raise campaign funds coercively.

The unions' show of muscle in this week's election was not unimpressive, even though it was insufficient to the task at hand. Starved of the nourishment of forcibly collected dues, they may look like a 98-pound weakling by 2012.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: prosser; union; walker; wisconsinshowdown
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To: Walkingfeather
Severe penalties for those who directly commit vote fraud!
Leave each state to decide what severe means.
Also I would recommend the following for candidates whose supporters are caught doing vote fraud. Immediate forfeiture of office if the candidate is the winner, with a re-election, and the offending candidate must sit out one election cycle. If such penalties existed candidates would make darn sure that their staffs functioned on the up & up!
101 posted on 04/09/2011 6:08:42 PM PDT by Reily
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To: EDINVA

Perhaps best of all, the unions will lose their main source of revenue this year.

The more they spend on the recalls the less they’ll have to spend in 2012...when it really matters.


102 posted on 04/09/2011 6:10:47 PM PDT by proudpapa
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To: EDINVA
A teacher told me years ago that the ONLY reason he belongs to the union is because of the insurance. If he carried solo, it would be more than his union dues and the insurance premiums through the union combined.

This is absolutely true. A close family member works for the state and is required to pay dues whether a union member or not—thanks, Rats!

He can insure his whole family of five for $17 in premiums. Identical coverage (copays, drug coverage) with the same provider, for just me alone, with no "collective bargaining power," was over $500 per month last year. I quit rather than pay those scandalous demands.

103 posted on 04/09/2011 6:10:59 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: rhema

We tried to bring “paycheck protection” reform to CA in ‘98 and again in ‘05. The unions killed us at the ballot box. A public employee doesn’t even have to be a member of the union but must still pay the dues thanks to law signed by Arnold’s recalled predecessor.


104 posted on 04/09/2011 6:14:30 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: rhema

“Ime so hapy we agrie.”

Laff owt lowd


105 posted on 04/09/2011 6:25:30 PM PDT by ripley
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To: Richard Kimball

Hey RK! Being a misplaced Cheesehead in Illinois, I’ve been impressed as well!! (Go Pack, too!)


106 posted on 04/09/2011 6:31:12 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln (But that's just me.)
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To: rhema

How in the world could anyone ever have thought it a constitutional thing to force an individual to support an organization he opposes? That still blows my mind every time I think about it.


107 posted on 04/09/2011 6:37:54 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: tflabo

Kloppenberg went moderate in the victory speech because she knew that Brookfield results weren’t in. The clerk knew and reported there was a problem already Wednesday morning.


108 posted on 04/09/2011 6:52:59 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: fwdude

Don’t get me wrong, Walker’s been great for Wisconsin, but I don’t think he’s presidential. His career focus has been on Wisconsin politics and Wisconsin policy and I don’t see any mastery or interest in broader issues.

He belongs in the governor’s mansion and I hope he stays for a long time. This fight is just the first of many that need someone like Walker to lead the way.


109 posted on 04/09/2011 7:05:38 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: tubebender

I hope that car was a Volt...

‘HEY if you buy a VOLT i’ll pay you some money If you buy it’

........GOBERMN TREE HUGGER.


110 posted on 04/09/2011 7:12:38 PM PDT by flat
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To: rhema

111 posted on 04/09/2011 7:14:46 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (You do not have to smear (Pharaoh / Imam) Obama w/ lies....the truth does a fine job. :)
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To: Terry Mross

Let the Unions waste time and energy creating bad-will by bullying.


112 posted on 04/09/2011 7:18:26 PM PDT by ROTB (Sans Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia when we revolt.)
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To: tflabo
"She bees smoking her Tea... I can't tell if your using eubonics or if you just mistyped "been"...
113 posted on 04/09/2011 7:31:55 PM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: ponygirl

I was told the same thing.....”The union is why you’re getting paid what you’re getting paid.” I’ve had two unions that screwed me in the end. They had promised to go all the way to arbitration on a pay issue and both of them caved in the end.


114 posted on 04/09/2011 7:34:14 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Only a SECOND party will get my vote.)
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To: martin_fierro

Onions R my cup uv T


115 posted on 04/09/2011 7:42:43 PM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: Lando Lincoln

Hey, see you’re still bouncing around!


116 posted on 04/09/2011 8:21:21 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (Proud member of the Keepers Of Odd Knowledge (KOOK))
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To: rhema

Even if the Kloppentrooper had won, this would not have been the “stinging rebuke” of Walker the unions were claiming it was. After pouring $3.5 million into her campaign and then managing to portray the incumbent as a friend of child molesters, they still only moved the dial back 2% from the margin Walker won by.

Looks like everything so far this year has been sound and fury signifying nothing. Walker drives on.


117 posted on 04/09/2011 8:31:53 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: rhema

bump


118 posted on 04/09/2011 8:35:47 PM PDT by gibsosa
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To: Reily

Well there would have to be a way that the opponent does not frame a candidate in voter fraud in order to take them out.


119 posted on 04/09/2011 8:36:09 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Richard Kimball

Yes, the old dog is still around - but keeping a low profile. Hope you are well.


120 posted on 04/09/2011 8:39:31 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln (But that's just me.)
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To: workerbee
No. I have to believe that once people need to pull out the checkbook and send the money themselves, they’ll figure out real quick that they LIKE being non-union.

I agree and with inflation who has any extra money for paying union dues.

121 posted on 04/09/2011 8:58:15 PM PDT by muggs (Hope and Change = Hoax and Chains)
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To: Mygirlsmom

Yes, it is kind of amazing what has happened in WI the past year. Like some kind of giant fog has been lifted from the population at large. Keep up the great work!


122 posted on 04/09/2011 9:33:05 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (Liberals: drooling buffoons (politicians/media/ bureaucrats) backed by satanic goons (union thugs).)
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To: rhema
The Union members will really get upset when the Union Bosses start using Collection Agencies to try and get the “late” Dues. LOL
123 posted on 04/09/2011 9:40:08 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Obama was a tree, what kind of a tree would he be?)
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To: workerbee
Along the same line, if there was no Tax Withholding there would be no Democrat Party. I think that comment came from Ann Coulter.

Imagine all the “working” folks having to write a check on April 15th for ALL the money they owe the IRS, rather than thinking they are making out because they get a check from the IRS.

124 posted on 04/09/2011 9:45:03 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Obama was a tree, what kind of a tree would he be?)
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To: rhema

The same victory is being repeated in Ohio with Governor John Kasich. And we must also look at the money the unions have spent in these battles. This is money they will need to buy the 2012 elections to keep Zer0 in power and, of course, the US Senate.


125 posted on 04/10/2011 2:45:32 AM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: Terry Mross
"I doubt very many will stop paying dues."

Possibly, BUT in States where no auto ded are done that has not been the case. And keep in mind when the member has to write the check themselves it is a whole different ball game because they will have had the money in their hand and then see it leave.

Why do you think the Fed withholding etc is automatically deducted from paychecks? The unions will now have to spend money to collect the dues where it was done for them previously. This is a good thing.

126 posted on 04/10/2011 2:59:09 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: SpaceBar

“The left has shown historically that when the going gets tough, they dig their heels in and turn up the heat. We could learn a few things from them.”

No need to learn from them. We know. We just have to have the cajones to do it. PC has made us run scared.

The Tea Party is rising up to take the on the left head on.


127 posted on 04/10/2011 3:26:07 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The MSM is the greatest threat to America.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

In the 90’s I worked for a pretty big cookie company. They had an manufacturing facility in Philly.

Well, one day while they were ramping up a line, management asked that a person from the cafeteria be moved over to the line. The union said no.

So management once again requested that someone from the cafeteria move over to work on the new line. The union said no.

On Friday, management once again requested that one person move from the cafeteria to the new cookie line. The union said no.

Over the weekend, the cafeteria was closed, there were vending machines in its place and 20 cafeteria workers were fired on Monday morning. The union went ballistic. Management said they negotiated in good faith and according to the contract. The union claimed discrimination.

Management won.

A few months later, one of our plants in California had something similar happen. A woman with incontinence had to leave the line every 15 minutes to go to the bathroom. Management offered her an office position at the same pay and asked the union to put someone in her place. The union said no.

The woman started wearing a diaper. In solidarity, the union joined in and wore diapers to work.

A week later the plant was sold and closed down. 200 people lost their jobs.


128 posted on 04/10/2011 3:39:18 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The MSM is the greatest threat to America.)
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To: rhema
"State and local government will no longer take money out of their employees’ paychecks and hand it over to the unions.&rdquo" This is the core of the Beck Decision. When enforcing Beck spreads nationwide the unions are dead.
129 posted on 04/10/2011 4:34:27 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I read somewhere that when the income tax was instituted, they planned it exactly for that reason.


130 posted on 04/10/2011 4:58:51 AM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: rhema
Wisconsin (with other states following) has got the Dems scared big time.

A key provision of Walker's WI law is not only to eviscerate unions' bargaining power but ALSO the state's obligation to collect union dues out of employee's paychecks---(most of which goes to Dem campaigns).

The libs are paranoid that Obama did not join them in WI as he promised he would during the campaign. He couldn't go----B/C he couldn't appear to side with violent union workers intent on keeping collective bargaining "rights" ...rights Ohaha's army of federal employees do not have.

THIS SAYS A LOT Obama's recent Boston fundraiser started out as a $5,000 a plate then dropped to $500 a plate ... but he still could not fill the room——ended up talking to a little over 100 people. And last week's propaganda about his Harlem funder---that it was "intentionally kept small." IOW they could not even give the $30,000 per head tickets away.

Heh---nice to see Ohaha between a rock and a hard place. In a word----l-o-s-e-r.

131 posted on 04/10/2011 8:07:29 AM PDT by Liz (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: martin_fierro

Our my r i spel chk ok. Me tea each ur kids.


132 posted on 04/10/2011 8:09:41 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Liz

He be raising dat BILLION DOLLARS soo dang fast it be he lyk an easter bunny rabbit on some meth or sumin.


133 posted on 04/10/2011 8:12:30 AM PDT by bvw
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Grampa Dave; TommyDale; Condor51; calcowgirl; indylindy; GOPJ; Libloather; ...
2012 Candidate Obama is billing himself as the billion dollar candidate----he knows that's the number b/c that's what he's got stashed offshore (with help from zillons of Soros global organizations-----using the Madoff MO).

Unions could still play a role in Dem elections---albeit a sub rosa role (/snix). Will involve "borrowing" union members' names and surreptitiously listing them as "donors."

BACKSTORY Remember how Ohaha raised a whopping $750 million for 2008----purportedly from "anonymous foreign donors" who flooded his 2008 campaign with hundreds of thousands of relatively small, untraceable illegal donations?

Reminds me of the excellent book---"Flawless"--- about the half a $$$billion Antwerp diamond heist. The crooks couldn't spend it, of course, without calling attention to themselves. So they had to invent a money-maker to account for their spending. They pretended a multi-million dollar movie deal about their heist was in the works.

Can't wait to see the cover story Ohahas come up with for all those 2012 "campaign donations."

134 posted on 04/10/2011 8:23:35 AM PDT by Liz (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Liz

Union dues, illegal $ transfers from wealthy liberals to phoney non profits, who then launder the money and send it to Rat candidates and illegal foreign money are the foundation and core of rat power.


135 posted on 04/10/2011 8:58:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: rhema

This is great. The whole piece brings joy to my heart and a smile to my face.
It’s a fun thing whenever the good guys manage to swat away the clawing hands that are reaching for my pocket.
It’s good when genuine scumbags lose.


136 posted on 04/10/2011 9:06:09 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Grampa Dave

N-i-c-e insight.


137 posted on 04/10/2011 9:22:04 AM PDT by Liz (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Mygirlsmom

We formed this Union one state at a time. It will have to be saved the same way.


138 posted on 04/10/2011 9:27:22 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: EDINVA
I am so in awe of the governor. Just WOW! Wish a few more in DC had his ability to face pretty horrific people and groups and yet stand strong.

This is really an uplifting article.

139 posted on 04/10/2011 9:41:50 AM PDT by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: Lando Lincoln

GREAT GOING, WISCONSIN!

We sure have been praying for all Wisconsin patriots to pull off a BIG WIN over the Socialists!! First you did it with electing your wonderful Governor Walker and then you took care of the Union lover judge! You’re the BEST!


140 posted on 04/10/2011 11:35:40 AM PDT by seekthetruth (My Dream Ticket For 2012: "Allen West / Scott Walker")
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To: rhema

Hoooo-aaaah! How sweet it is.


141 posted on 04/10/2011 1:59:53 PM PDT by prairiebreeze ("We need to be in it to win it, and if there's doubt we need to get out". -- Palin on Libya.)
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To: SC_Pete

We formed this Union one state at a time. It will have to be saved the same way.


Yet more tagline material!


142 posted on 04/10/2011 2:17:24 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: tflabo

She’s been feeding her munchies side effects too.”””

In Wisconsin, that is what is known as a “healthy Heifer”.


143 posted on 04/10/2011 4:56:41 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Liz
O-hahas? LOL!

Hey, that just gave me the idea for a bumper sticker.

Remember the LOL with the Obama logo as the O? The same thing could be dome with O...haha!

144 posted on 04/10/2011 6:22:40 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Fu-fu2
“The whole WI scenario has made my year politically.”

Ditto. Thank you Scott Walker and the Wisconsin conservatives!

______________________________________________________________ And Ditto to both of the above comments. YES, YES, YES.... Go Wisconsin, go Wisconsin.... come on folks; sing along. LOL!
145 posted on 04/10/2011 9:38:37 PM PDT by no dems (DeMINT / PALIN 2012)
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To: rhema; All
I love this article. THANK YOU WISCONSIN for being just about the only real encouragement for our movement in 2011.
146 posted on 04/10/2011 9:41:20 PM PDT by no dems (DeMINT / PALIN 2012)
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