Skip to comments.Landslide! It looks like Waterloo in Wisconsin for government unions.
Posted on 04/09/2011 3:26:02 PM PDT by rhema
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But whereas we thought Kloppenburg had a real chance of beating Prosser, we've always been skeptical to the point of incredulity about the prospects for recalling Republican senators. That's because under Wisconsin law, an official has to have served for a year before being subject to recall. That shields both Walker and all Republican lawmakers who replaced Democrats in last year's election. As Wisconsin senators serve four-year terms, only those who survived the Democratic sweep of 2006 or 2008 can be recalled.
It only gets worse for Wisconsin Democrats. Kloppenburg's campaign implied--though in her "victory" press conference she robotically denied--that she would provide the deciding vote on the court to overturn Walker's reforms. Her defeat means that those reforms will soon take effect unless they have an actual legal defect.
One of the most important reforms is that union dues will become voluntary. State and local government will no longer take money out of their employees' paychecks and hand it over to the unions. This is likely to be the last Wisconsin election in which the Democrats have the advantage of support from organizations with the power to raise campaign funds coercively.
The unions' show of muscle in this week's election was not unimpressive, even though it was insufficient to the task at hand. Starved of the nourishment of forcibly collected dues, they may look like a 98-pound weakling by 2012.
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I hope that car was a Volt...
You are right of course but a little celebration is in order. Our supreme court candidate survived a three million dollar onslaught by unions and their supporters.
Bingo. It's now time for Wisconsin to bring forth Voter ID and end same-day registration.
I must admit I’m surprised by those numbers and thanks to all of you who educated me.
I just know that when I was a member you sure felt intimidated if you didn’t join.
I was at a luncheon this afternoon where Steven Hayes of the Weekly Standard was the speaker. He told of having several conversations with Governor Walker during this whole ordeal, and how he would look at a sea of thousands of protestors outside his door and say, "These numbers do not represent the millions of taxpayers of the state of Wisconsin. They are the ones who elected me to get things done for them and I will do that."
No doubt. Especially after the complete washout the Republican Party in Washington is.
Also there should be alternatives to union group premiums for professional insurance. A teacher told me years ago that the ONLY reason he belongs to the union is because of the insurance. If he carried solo, it would be more than his union dues and the insurance premiums through the union combined.
The states should figure out a way to make those insurance rates affordable to teachers. Then it’s absolutely bye bye to the unions. They’ll be left only with teachers whose courses are easily dispensable. I’ve noticed locally that the teachers most engaged with the unions (union reps) are PE teachers, not usually classroom teachers.
Hah ! Love how they linked spelled Huffington Post in the HTLM link ......”Puffington Post”
And Astro-Turf doesn't VOTE!
Take THAT Nancy!
True. However the unions will have to devote much time and resources to make sure they get their coin. Muscle cost money and the unions will definitely use it to get what's theirs. The union rank and file will finally see what is most important to the union leadership. Union dues will be jacked up as will those who refuse to pay.
Just remembered something... In the 80's I worked at UPS and had to go down to the local Teamster's union hall to fill out some paperwork. I was shocked at the building's ramshackle appearance. It looked like a condemned building with the interior offices, sparsely furnished with secondhand furniture. The office I was led to didn't even have filing cabinets but had files in boxes stacked along the filthy wall. I remember at the time thinking, "Where is all our money going?" Now I know.
At least a GM product.
John Kerry more than likely helped that union babe make her sign!!!!!!!!
re: “Also there should be alternatives to union group premiums for professional insurance. A teacher told me years ago that the ONLY reason he belongs to the union is because of the insurance. If he carried solo, it would be more than his union dues and the insurance premiums through the union combined.”
Well, I don’t know what the union dues are in your friend’s state, but in my state, I can get professional liability insurance through Christian Educators of America, Inc. (CEAI) for a fraction of what union dues cost. He is correct about why many teachers join the union - it is simply because of the liability protection.
Also, you can tell your friend that CEAI is non-sectarian. You don’t have to belong to a church or even be a Christian to join. I also believe that there are other sources of professional liability insurance out there as well for fairly lost cost. Some of the teachers in my state said they added their insurance through their homeowners policy.
How much money did the Unions lose in this race that Obama won’t get. I love it.
Well, not legally anyway. Dollars to donuts says that there were a fair number of out-of-state union thugs voting last Tuesday.
The way the unions dug in tells me IN SPADES they know their funds will dry up. They’re done.
That illustrates why they usually make them carry mass-produced signs. The union goons are illiterate.
Every GOP run state dealing with pubic sector unions who collect union dues for thug unions must do the same thing
That alone will cost the congress at least a couple dem seats
It is the only bright spot ... funny how Republicans lose their courage when they move to Washington ...it must be the air
it's money laundering pure and simple, and without the changes to collective bargaining, they will continue to extract even greater sums than union dues straight from the pockets of the taxpayer.
Hope she’s not a teacher. LOL
And AAE dues are $15 a month.
And AAE is the kind of professional organization the NEA could never even hope to be.
Dam*** liberty keeps breaking out! This is intolerable! < /sarc>
I will never forget one trip I took where one of the pilots came up to me in the galley before the flight and "informed" me that the captain was a "scab." My response was, "So? What do you want me to do about it?" "I just wanted you to know."
Later in fight, the captain would not take any beverages or food from any of us. Never said why, but it was obvious. He brought his own lunch and coffee. I felt sorry for the guy the way his co-workers treated him. It was ridiculous. And it was all over a strike that had happened over 15 years prior.
My union rep called me once to picket Burbank airport. I told him I was busy. "Well how about tomorrow? Or the next day?" "Nope, I'm pretty much busy for the rest of my life." "You do know that your union negotiates all of your benefits, don't you?" "And you do know that I never was given the option of not being in a union, don't you?" That was pretty much the end of the conversation.
I don’t know, after a couple visit by the unions goon knee-breakers to members that “forgot” to mail in their dues.
How many more states to go?
Yep, airline unions are like that. Even in right-to-work states membership is required; state RTW laws don’t apply to airline and railroad workers due to the Railway Labor Act.
We have been waiting for a hero. You are convincing me—I pray you are right.
Well, that friend is now retired, as are most of my former teacher friends He was an extraordinary teacher, too. Somewhere back in the 90s he was National Teacher of the Year. Probably never had a claim made on his insurance.
I’ll keep the CEIA in mind for friends’ adult children who might still be teaching. Really despise unions. Thanks for the tip.
“So whatz the beg deel” Nuthing is rong with that sine.”
Saym here. I don’t see nothing rawng.
sounds to me like an awful lot of union voters do not want their dues being automatically deducted and they pulled the lever for Prosser
Many years ago when I was active in PTA (when it was still pretty conservative in our area), there was a meeting of all the schools in our local district on the question of “merit pay.” So I went as our school’s rep and voted FOR it. I was seated between 2 people I knew from nearby schools. One was an art teacher, the other - you guessed it - PE teacher married to another PE teacher.
After I raised my hand for the “Yes” vote, the PE teacher leaned across me to the art teacher, pointing his thumb in my direction (in other words, in my face) and asked her: “Did she vote Yes?” to which the other hrumphed “yes, she did.” The rest of the meeting wasn’t particularly comfortable.
In Illinois, the law requires that the results are posted at the polling places. Locally we use paper ballots with ovals filled in by the voter. They are scanned as the voter places them in the machine which also records the vote. At the end of the day the election officials run off two tapes of the results. One is posted on the window of the polling place and the other along with the ballots and scanner memory card are taken to the county election officials. They provide totals to the media. I suspect few if any ever check the posted results at the polling place.
For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my state!!!
oh, the AAE really IS what a teacher’s association should be. No question there.
The problem, as Mygirsom pointed out, is that in some place, WI in this case, the NEA has its own insurance racket that forces the schools to buy its insurance and the teachers themselves don’t pay (at least not directly).
Maybe as Walker’s law is enacted about the dues having to be paid directly vs. withheld, the teachers will look more to a reputable outfit like AAE. I sure hope they plan to do some serious recruiting in WI over the next couple of years.
Exactly. A republican who will not blink. His Lt. Gov. has spine made of steel as well.
First ACORN, now the unions. Honesty is slowly returning to the ballot box.
It’s that Wisconsin accent ~ not only is it sing/song sounding, “our” and “are” really are pronounced the same.
Ime so hapy we agrie.
“EDUMACATOR”, not “EDJA.....”
But without a leader like Scott Walker, these things are impossible.”
I agree with you. We found a leader. You’re 110% correct.
It's a union thing.
You'll notice that the smarter groups of TEAParty folks use only HAND MADE SIGNS. That way you can ferret out the Democrats and Union geeks instantly!
Keep rocking. As a Texan, I’ve sure been impressed by Wisconsin the last few months, and that includes the SB win.
Yes like making voter fraud a capital offense as it undermines the very system that runs the country. People lose faith in the voter system welcome to the 3rd world.
I view vote fraud as similar in immorality as to espionage or treason! For it undermines the most fundamental act of being a citizen in a free country.