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Poll: 48% Of Iowa Republicans Say Obama Wasn’t Born In U.S. (and 26% 'Not Sure')
Mediaite via TPM ^ | 04/19/2011 | Jon Terbush

Posted on 04/19/2011 9:50:51 AM PDT by nhwingut

Nearly half of usual Republican primary voters in Iowa think President Obama was not born in the United States, while barely one-quarter believe he was, according to a PPP poll released on Tuesday.

In the poll, 48% of registered Republican voters said Obama was not born in the U.S., while 26% said he was. Additionally, 26% said they were unsure.

(Excerpt) Read more at mediaite.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; iowa; obama
That would be 74% unsure of Zero's birthplace.

Ignore the issue at your own peril, RINOs...


1 posted on 04/19/2011 9:50:54 AM PDT by nhwingut
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To: nhwingut

Thank you, Donald Trump! Not anybody else, just Donald.


2 posted on 04/19/2011 9:52:31 AM PDT by RitaOK
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To: nhwingut
If you really want to see a candidate like Sarah Palin suck the air out of Trump's balloon she or another candidate should make a statement such as:

"When I move into the White House my attorney general will initiate a thorough and complete investigation in order to be fair to not only the American people but also to President Obama who rightfully deserves to be acknowledged as a legitimate former President. It is also important to clarify to the American people that Barack Obama was indeed eligible and was the legitimate President of these United States.

However, if by some chance the accusations turn out to be correct, there is a promise to the American people that anybody in Congress whether they be republican or democrat will be legally held accountable and justice will be served for any wrong doing and illegal activity. Let that be a warning to the leaders of Congress who have taken the oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America."

The sooner this is done the quicler Donald Trump will fall in the polls. I suspect he will be holding onto whatever he learns about obama's BC for an October surprise.

3 posted on 04/19/2011 9:52:39 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: nhwingut
Only a racist would expect a partially-black President to be eligible for the Presidency.

It is racist to hold partially-black people to any standard of any kind.

4 posted on 04/19/2011 9:53:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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To: nhwingut

I don’t know if he was or not. I just want to see the documentation per the Constitution. I am just upholding the law of the land.


5 posted on 04/19/2011 9:53:40 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: nhwingut

I saw an NBC interview with The Donald and the interviewer mentioned that Karl Rove said that Trump has joined the ‘nutty right’ since he’s a confirmed birther.

I wonder what Rove-boy has to say about this 48%.


6 posted on 04/19/2011 10:00:45 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Sarah Palin is America's Margaret Thatcher)
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To: tsowellfan

If you really want to see a candidate like Sarah Palin suck the air out of Trump’s balloon she or another candidate should make a statement such as: ........ “ =============

Right now, in this moment of time the “other candidates” so to speak can’t even touch the Trump balloon— can’t even get their hands around it. Trump will be letting the air out of his own balloon before long, but meanwhile throwing stones at him for hitting obvious homeruns for all the world to see seems worse than self defeating. He’s out there blasting a way while they are (every one of them) missing the target, too busy stumping for money, working over each other, or focusing on their own polling.

If it weren’t for Trump out there firing away, there would be crickets from the lack of push back by our “line up”.


7 posted on 04/19/2011 10:03:28 AM PDT by RitaOK
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To: MichaelCorleone

Actually, its 48% that are sure Obama was born out of the U.S. and 26% that don’t know and are waiting for more evidence, and that means 74% of the republicans are birthers. Yes indeed, ignore THAT at your own peril Tokyo and all the fool conservative pundits and talk show hosts that think birthers are nuts.


8 posted on 04/19/2011 10:07:42 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: RitaOK

Meanwhile Rove is babbling ...move along. Nothing to see here.


9 posted on 04/19/2011 10:12:55 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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10 posted on 04/19/2011 10:13:15 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: RitaOK

Urban Dictionary: SPINELESS

A wimp. A person without a spine. Someone who has others do the dirty work for them. Someone who backs down from confrontation or sneaks around and has others do the job for them.

See also Republican potential Presidential candidates, EXCEPT TRUMP


11 posted on 04/19/2011 10:26:01 AM PDT by outhousepatrol
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To: nhwingut
That would be 74% unsure of Zero's birthplace. Ignore the issue at your own peril, RINOs...

The problem with your warning is that you are totally focused on winning a Republican primary while completely ignoring winning the general election.

It does not really matter if 100% of Republicans swear on a stack of Bibles that Obama was born in Kenya. Republicans make up only a small minority of all voters.

What do Independents, who outnumber both Democrats and Republicans, think?

SIXTY NINE PERCENT OF INDEPENDENTS do NOT buy the "Born in Kenya" dogma that you put forth as the Political Purity Test for Republican candidates.

the FOX News poll showed significant partisan differences. A total of 84 percent of Democratic participants and 69 percent of independents believe that Obama was born in America. Only 47 percent of Republican respondents think that the commander-in-chief is a natural-born citizen, compared to 44 percent of Tea Party supporters.

There is a HUGE difference between "Where's the birth certificate" and a dogmatic insistence that "Obama was born in Kenya".

It it beyond dispute that Obama is hiding his birth certificate. Not even the most liberal journalist can deny that and nobody can be ridiculed for claiming that. More importantly, the American voter can easily embrace that fact.

It is extremely easy to paint the enablers of Obama's deceit .... for whatever reason Obama wants to deceive .... as "HIDERS" .

The problem with the so-called "Birther" issue is that the "Born in Kenya" theory puts all it's eggs into one, single theory in regards to WHY Obama is hiding the birth certificate and that just happens to be a theory that 75% of American voters simply do not buy and consider "tinfoil hat" stuff.

Hypothetical example:

Candidate John Edwards was caught secretly sending money to a woman. Why?

"She is a KGB agent like Ana Chapman and he is funding a KGB spy ring to help his KGB masters. John Edwards is guilty of treason and America needs to know."

Four months later: "Seventy five percent of America is not buying the KGB theory and the liberal press is having a field day ridiculing us. Could there be another reason for the behavior?"

"NO! The woman is a KGB agent."

"Maybe she is his mistress and he is paying her off?"

"NO! SHE IS A KGB AGENT!"

"She recently gave birth. Maybe John Edwards is paying her because that is his illegitimate child."

"NO! NO! NO! SHE IS A KGB AGENT AND HE IS A TRAITOR!"

"Look, 75% of the American voters simply do not buy the KGB theory."

"KGB! KGB! KGB! TRAITOR! TRAITOR! TRAITOR!"

That's not the way to win an election, folks.

The discussion get turned 180 degrees by the liberal media from "John Edwards is a slimebag" to "John Edward's opponents are a bunch of tinfoil hat kooks" and 75% of all American voters ignore the slimebag and focus on the tinfoil hats.

Our goal should be to ensure that Obama is NOT reelected in 2012. That goal will be hurt by trying to cram the "Born in Kenya: theory down the throats of the 75% of all voters that want no part of it.

In my opinion, the "Born in Kenya" theory has more holes in it than a Swiss cheese factory. More importantly, 75% of all American voters simply ain't gonna buy it and beating them over the head with it only helps Obama paint the oppositions as obsessed kooks.

In my opinion, what is Obama hiding?

1.) That his birth was officially registered as "illegitimate" and his mother was listed as "Single". (Obama, Sr. was already married and polygamy is illegal in the U.S. Nobody has ever seen the marriage license or divorce decree of Obama, Sr. and Staley Ann Dunham.)

2.) That Obama, as an illegitimate child, was born with the name of Barry Dunham. Obama is therefore hiding a "white" surname given at birth that blows the entire "Dreams of my Father" hype out of the water.

Is that highly embarrassing?

You betcha.

What have Obama's lawyers specifically argued in Court when they have defended Obama's legal right to keep the documents hidden?

They have argued that the release would be "embarrassing" and the Courts have agreed.

Does Obama have an iron-clad legal right to refuse to release "embarrasing" information?

Yes.

Does Obama have an iron-clad legal right to cover up an illegal act such as ineligibility for the office of POTUS?

No.

Thus the Court have dismissed arguments that Obama is ineligible for office but, at the same time, have told America that it has no more right to see his birth certificate than America has a right to see your medical record.

Switching the debate from "Birther" to "HIDERS", is a winning strategy.

It switches the debate 180 degrees from "tinfoil hat kooks" to "What are you hiding and why are you hiding it?"

The continued insistence on forcing the cod liver oil of the "Born in Kenya" theory down the unwilling throats of 75% of all voters will bring nothing more than continued ridicule which does absolutely nothing but help Obama get reelected.

12 posted on 04/19/2011 10:27:40 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: RitaOK
Part of this is Republicans trying to push the issue...just like the "Is Obama a Muslim" question, which I would have answered in the affirmative just to make a statement about his butt-kissing approach to the muslims.
13 posted on 04/19/2011 10:29:11 AM PDT by cookcounty (Eric Holder, Head of the Department of JUST-US.)
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To: nhwingut

Let’s quit with the birth certificate already. I think the WH is purposely keeping this issue alive because it is nothing more than a distraction. We should be nailing Zero on Obamacare, the looming economic distruction of the United States, and his Marxist and radical associations.


14 posted on 04/19/2011 10:29:46 AM PDT by attiladhun2 (The Free World has a new leader--his name is Benjamin Netanyahu)
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To: attiladhun2
it is nothing more than a distraction

Standard Republican talking point now concerning anything moral or constitutional.

15 posted on 04/19/2011 10:31:56 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The epitaph of the GOP: They were even less principled than Donald Trump.)
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To: RitaOK

Hopefully Trump will just keep spreading the word.


16 posted on 04/19/2011 10:32:18 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: attiladhun2

Every elected official’s primary sworn duty is to protect and defend the Constitution, in all its provisions.

What, pray tell, could be so important as to make their primary duty a “distraction”?


17 posted on 04/19/2011 10:33:25 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The epitaph of the GOP: They were even less principled than Donald Trump.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

New tagline...


18 posted on 04/19/2011 10:34:47 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP has jumped the Trump.)
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To: Polybius

Thanks for the post. I have less and less patience with this issue. It is being kept alive by the opposition for exactly the purposes you mentioned in your post. As soon as I hear Savage and some other talk show hosts start ranting about this, I switch stations. We are being played like suckers on this issue, and “the Donald” is just the latest dolt to take the bait.


19 posted on 04/19/2011 10:36:55 AM PDT by attiladhun2 (The Free World has a new leader--his name is Benjamin Netanyahu)
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To: attiladhun2

Here’s the big question: Why doesn’t Obama just show his original birth certificate and get it over with?

Not only does that question not get discussed, it never even gets asked. On any TV or radio show, when the BC subject comes up; listen the next time. Everyone dances around this simple question.

Which brings us to the BIGGER question: Why doesn’t anyone ask or discuss the biq question?


20 posted on 04/19/2011 10:38:10 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Moderates = non-thinkers)
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To: RitaOK

whatever you think about his politics,
the Donald needs to be supported on
this issue and now! The primaries are
far off, and we can’t take another two
years of this communist bastard


21 posted on 04/19/2011 10:40:33 AM PDT by paythefiddler (redefeat communism)
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To: attiladhun2
Let’s quit with the birth certificate already. I think the WH is purposely keeping this issue alive because it is nothing more than a distraction. We should be nailing Zero on Obamacare, the looming economic distruction of the United States, and his Marxist and radical associations.

Perhaps the focus should be more general? Let's get Obama's past on record. How did he do in college? Release the high school and college transcripts.

I'd like to see Sarah Palin's transcripts (and I know they won't be perfect since she was paying her own way), and DeMint's if he runs, and Bachmann's, and those of any RINO (yeah, even Romney and the Huckster). Make a production of the fact that releasing records on their past is an important part of disclosure and understanding the whole person. Release a full, long-form birth certificate and a full college transcript on every candidate except Obama, and there sill be more pressure to comply with the legitimate request to release the transcripts. That leaves an obvious hole if Obama refuses to release his transcripts, and even if he releases them but doesn't release the long-form bc.

22 posted on 04/19/2011 10:41:35 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; RitaOK

I think he’s pretty much p..sed off with Gov. Jan Brewer, and probably also re-loading!!!


23 posted on 04/19/2011 10:41:59 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: LucyT

Ping!!!


24 posted on 04/19/2011 10:44:34 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: EternalVigilance

Obama will not be defeated on this issue. Period. So why do you want to keep it going? This is equivalent to the “Bush-arranged-911-to-get-the-oil” theory floated by the left and some tinfoil-hat libertarians like Jesse Ventura. Did that get Kerry elected?


25 posted on 04/19/2011 10:45:49 AM PDT by attiladhun2 (The Free World has a new leader--his name is Benjamin Netanyahu)
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To: attiladhun2
Perhaps the focus should be more general? Let's get Obama's past on record. How did he do in college? Release the high school and college transcripts.

I'd like to see Sarah Palin's transcripts (and I know they won't be perfect since she was paying her own way), and DeMint's if he runs, and Bachmann's, and those of any RINO (yeah, even Romney and the Huckster). Make a production of the fact that releasing records on their past is an important part of disclosure and understanding the whole person. Release a full, long-form birth certificate and a full college transcript on every candidate except Obama, and there will be more pressure to comply with the legitimate request to release the transcripts. That leaves an obvious hole if Obama refuses to release his transcripts, and even if he releases them but doesn't release the long-form bc.

[Note: I'm posting this on several threads because I think this tactic may make a difference in saving America and I want to hear feedback.]

26 posted on 04/19/2011 10:46:02 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: attiladhun2
Obama will not be defeated on this issue. Period. So why do you want to keep it going?

Adherence to the oath of office to defend the Constitution of the United States.

Ever hear of that?

27 posted on 04/19/2011 10:48:32 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP has jumped the Trump.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Defeating Obama on the issues will do more to defend the Constitution than harping on birth certificates.


28 posted on 04/19/2011 10:48:53 AM PDT by attiladhun2 (The Free World has a new leader--his name is Benjamin Netanyahu)
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To: Polybius; nhwingut
Our goal should be to ensure that Obama is NOT reelected in 2012.

Do YOU have a clandestine recipe as how we secure that goal???

With present GOP "candidates"(?), LOL!!!

29 posted on 04/19/2011 10:52:55 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: attiladhun2

Obama despises the Constitution.

Why should I care about Republicans who despise it too?

If they won’t keep their oaths, what else matters?


30 posted on 04/19/2011 10:53:29 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP has jumped the Trump.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Would good is an oath of office if Zero is re-elected, and he doubles down on government takeovers of businesses, government regulations, TSA gropefests and peepshows, slushfunds for ACORN, & more Commie and Sharia-compliant judges, etc.


31 posted on 04/19/2011 10:55:57 AM PDT by attiladhun2 (The Free World has a new leader--his name is Benjamin Netanyahu)
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To: Polybius
BORN IN THE USA? CNN's bad news for Obama: 6 of 10 doubt U.S. birth story

Whatever the strategy, this is just another arrow in our quiver to go after Obama. I see no real down side. We need to attack Obama's personal narrative, whether it is associations with racists, terrorists, and crooks, or his BC, or his failure to disclose his school transcripts, medical records, etc. The GOP made this off-limits in 2008. It is not a distraction, but a necessity that we go after him personally. The emperor has no clothes.

32 posted on 04/19/2011 10:59:23 AM PDT by kabar
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To: attiladhun2

A distraction to whom? The burden of proof is on Obama.


33 posted on 04/19/2011 11:00:56 AM PDT by kabar
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To: RitaOK

Exactly. What Trump has done now is to make many people think that “if there’s smoke, there must be fire.”


34 posted on 04/19/2011 11:01:31 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: attiladhun2

What difference does it make if the Republicans do exactly the same things?


35 posted on 04/19/2011 11:04:35 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP has jumped the Trump.)
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To: attiladhun2
So why do you want to keep it going? This is equivalent to the “Bush-arranged-911-to-get-the-oil” theory floated by the left and some tinfoil-hat libertarians like Jesse Ventura. Did that get Kerry elected?

Kerry, with all of his faults as a lousy candidate, almost won despite going up an incumbent war time President. The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth saved the Gop's sorry ass by torpedoing Kerry's phony Vietnam hero narrative. It froze him like a deer in the headlights for almost a month. Rove, a legned in his own mind, criticized the SBVFT as did McCain.

36 posted on 04/19/2011 11:06:07 AM PDT by kabar
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To: attiladhun2

You can do both, just like the Democrats do.


37 posted on 04/19/2011 11:07:08 AM PDT by kabar
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To: paythefiddler; danamco; georgia girl; outhousepatrol

The Trump has dared to take the politically riskiest question on the face of the political landscape, blow past all the others who are spineless to speak of it, and not only herald it but go entirely in-your-face, not to the safe ground conservative media and conservative crowds but in-your-face to the Leftist media, and right up the steps into the White House Obama Oval Office. SPECFRIGGIN’TACULAR!

I haven’t seen courage like this since Custer! ha.


38 posted on 04/19/2011 11:13:13 AM PDT by RitaOK
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To: attiladhun2
We should be nailing Zero on Obamacare, the looming economic distruction of the United States, and his Marxist and radical associations.

HOW? The GOP was holding all the cards by attaching the rider DEFUNDING OBAMACARE in the CR. What did they do? Boenher announces that he will not shut down the Government over a CR. Will the GOP fight using the DEBT CEILING as a tool to extract defunding of OBAMACARE? They certainly could, and blame Reid's Senate for a no vote on Debt Ceiling. BUT DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH......
39 posted on 04/19/2011 11:27:51 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: EternalVigilance

Hi EV,

I worry that the entire detailed understanding of “Natural Born Citizen” as understood by the founder’s era citizenry that ratified the Constitution is lost in the weeds of the more yes-or-no issue of a formal Birth Certificate.

If a Long Form is produced, the vast bulk of the electorate will consider the issue closed since this has been reduced to a “birth certicate” issue by the “birthers” as far as all media reports reference it.

If Barack Sr. is shown to be his father, he was never a citizen and the whole BC issue doesn’t resolve a single thing. But when one is produced in October, the issue will look like an Obama WIN. Furthermore, if the marriage was invalid at the time of his birth and no father is declared on the BC proving HI birth, it will be harder to say he is not Natural Born.

Once the Democrats and Republicans ignored it and elected and inaugarated him, the issue was lost as it was never addressed by an honest media in time for an understanding to develop.


40 posted on 04/19/2011 11:42:36 AM PDT by KC Burke
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To: attiladhun2; nhwingut
Let’s quit with the birth certificate already. I think the WH is purposely keeping this issue alive because it is nothing more than a distraction. We should be nailing Zero on Obamacare, the looming economic distruction of the United States, and his Marxist and radical associations.

How do we nail Zero on "Obamascare" and if SCOTUS does NOT overturn it, like they are EVADING your birth certificate, then this will be permanent like FDR's Social Security!!!

I'm kind of curios and I just can't figure out WHY you did bother of posting this on your FReeper profile page, hmmmm???

I am a Constitutionalist, because I believe the document our Framers gave us best reconciles liberty and the need for order.

41 posted on 04/19/2011 5:53:49 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: RitaOK; nhwingut

Trump:...”George you have been co-opted, next question,” LOL!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WEuj7wjCO0&feature=player_embedded


42 posted on 04/19/2011 10:44:49 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: danamco

” Trump:...”George you have been co-opted, next question,” LOL!!! “ ===============

I know! Isn’t some of the most fun ever! I’m all about it while it lasts.


43 posted on 04/19/2011 10:48:23 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: RitaOK

I hope he’s a better businessman than Custer was a general
I loved when he told Stephi that he had been co-opted
wish the gop had the sack


44 posted on 04/20/2011 6:24:58 AM PDT by paythefiddler (redefeat communism)
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To: nhwingut

The goal is to remove Obama, force justice to prevail, prosecute all those involved and lay down the law that this will never, ever be allowed to happen again...ever.

Birtherism is just the label they are using for a defense, all that matters, all of whoever is part of the illegal manipulation of a Presidential election must be prosecuted.

No matter how long it takes, after the next election, 5 years, 10 years or 30 years from now, all that were involved in conspiring and abetting the illegal acts of document falsification will be exposed.

No amount of repetitious false history creation the tool used by communism will hide the truth. No amount of false propaganda by Facebook, Twitter, Youtube will prolong the usurper in the Whitehouse. Obama at this very minute is launching a campaign to flood the internet, the social networks with a goal of beating enough drums, enough chanting that he will build up a base of those eager to find a new idol to worship.

For every moment Obama opens his mouth will should question each word, give him no respite, give him no momentum, allow him no oratory filibuster. His ego will be his own destruction. When his speeches are interrupted he will falter. This is a chink and we all have the hammers and chisels.

Obama broke the law and is breaking America. His goal of a future Islamiofascism of America MUST NOT HAPPEN.


45 posted on 04/20/2011 6:47:44 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Communism is a diease, a global failure and endorses Barack Hussein Obama.)
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To: Eye of Unk; nhwingut

Jerry Corsi is getting huge book promotion on Drudge. Big on top of his front page, WOW!!!

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash7.htm


46 posted on 04/20/2011 8:27:03 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: danamco
Obamacare is going to wither away do to lack of funds, whether the Supreme Court upholds it or not.

This issue turns off more people than it interests, including the independents that have to be won over to defeat Zero next year. Using the Birther Controversy as an issue will brand any candidate who uses it as a tin-foil hat lunatic, which is precisely why Zero and Co. want to keep it alive.

I have said all I want to say on this issue.
47 posted on 04/23/2011 12:09:14 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (The Free World has a new leader--his name is Benjamin Netanyahu)
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To: attiladhun2
This issue turns off more people than it interests, including the independents that have to be won over to defeat Zero next year. Using the Birther Controversy as an issue will brand any candidate who uses it as a tin-foil hat lunatic, which is precisely why Zero and Co. want to keep it alive.

So I think you ought to delete your statement on your own profile page, because you don't believe in it at all. And what is a "Birther Controversy in your eyes???

I am a Constitutionalist, because I believe the document our Framers gave us best reconciles liberty and the need for order.

You can't have it both ways especially NOT as a Christian!!!

48 posted on 04/23/2011 3:30:14 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: tsowellfan
The sooner this is done the quicler Donald Trump will fall in the polls. I suspect he will be holding onto whatever he learns about obama’s BC for an October surprise.
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That's what I would do.

49 posted on 04/23/2011 3:32:51 PM PDT by kara37
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To: paythefiddler

Obviously this issue is scaring the MSM. The state Senator answers the question the right way near the end of the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eDfUn5h-klc


50 posted on 04/23/2011 6:49:36 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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