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NATO Says It Cannot Stop Shelling Of Libyan City
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 19 April 2011 | Karin Laub & Maggie Michael

Posted on 04/19/2011 11:03:36 AM PDT by edpc

TRIPOLI, Libya – NATO military commanders conceded Tuesday they are unable to stop Moammar Gadhafi's shelling of the rebel-held city of Misrata, where hospitals are overwhelmed with casualties, while Britain said it will dispatch senior military officers to advise the opposition.

Misrata, Libya's third-largest city, has been under siege for nearly two months, with rebels holding on to seaside positions in the port area. In recent days, Libyan troops have pounded the city with shells and rockets.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: libya; middleeast; nato; un
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R2P fail.....to go along with all his others.
1 posted on 04/19/2011 11:03:44 AM PDT by edpc
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To: edpc

It’s all over but the slinking away.


2 posted on 04/19/2011 11:05:18 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: edpc

What a horribly sad joke...


3 posted on 04/19/2011 11:06:56 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: edpc

Commander Obama is an idiot.


4 posted on 04/19/2011 11:07:15 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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hooray for War by Committee


5 posted on 04/19/2011 11:07:27 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: edpc

6 posted on 04/19/2011 11:08:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: edpc

And those boots on the ground Obama said would never be there, were announced today, as “Advisors”.

We live in the world of Orwell now, and I just cannot fathom why our supposedly unbiased media isn’t calling Obama out on this.


7 posted on 04/19/2011 11:09:18 AM PDT by tcrlaf (2012 Slogan: "You'd Have To Be Insane, To Vote For Hussein!")
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To: edpc

Kaddafi had nearly won the war. It would have been over weeks ago, if not for these jerks.

And with far fewer casualties.

And they already had oil deals with Kaddafi. Do they really think the Muslim Brotherhood will give them better deals?

I understand why Obama is in this—he loves Muslim terrorists. But I can’t imagine what Sarkozy and Cameron are smoking.


8 posted on 04/19/2011 11:11:29 AM PDT by Cicero
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To: edpc
Ragtags will be loading on get away boats in hours, hope they enjoy killing people in France.
9 posted on 04/19/2011 11:13:41 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: edpc

Psst .....NATO is impotent. Sad to say, but true.


10 posted on 04/19/2011 11:14:34 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: edpc
NATO Says It Cannot Stop Shelling Of Libyan City

Have they tried surrender?

11 posted on 04/19/2011 11:15:17 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: edpc

What - counter-battery fire doesn’t work anymore?


12 posted on 04/19/2011 11:16:21 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: tcrlaf
I just cannot fathom why our supposedly unbiased media isn’t calling Obama out on this.

Well, fathom it. The news media's only purpose is to promote the goals of big government socialism. All else is dressing to help sell their product to the masses.

What I don't understand is how they have been so successful keeping alternative worldviews out of their newsrooms.

13 posted on 04/19/2011 11:17:28 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: edpc

Time to scrap NATO. It has long lived past it’s usefulness.................


14 posted on 04/19/2011 11:17:28 AM PDT by Red Badger (Mitt Romney: The Harold Stassen of the 21st century........)
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To: edpc
Gadhafi was chasing what he considered undesirables from Libya.

Then Obama recklessly thrust the US into an illegal war while sucking in allies France and Britain, started a massacre, created a civil war, stuck NATO in a hopeless situation and made it look weak and ineffective and slimes off to play golf.

15 posted on 04/19/2011 11:18:41 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Whether they want to admit it or not, everyone knows Obama is hiding his bc.)
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To: tcrlaf
And those boots on the ground Obama said would never be there, were announced today, as “Advisors”.

Is that true? I haven't seen much news today...

Lyndon Baines Obama is on the frigging march...

16 posted on 04/19/2011 11:20:02 AM PDT by MortMan (What disease did cured ham used to have?)
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To: skeeter

“What I don’t understand is how they have been so successful keeping alternative worldviews out of their newsrooms.”

Not really that hard when you understand that:

1)Most big media types are themselves Unionized.

2) Most big-media newsrooms are over-run by radical gays. At some local outlets, you cannot even get hired if you AREN’T gay.
One article here a couple of years ago noted that 58% of the staffers at NBC-News New York were gay, lesbian, bi, or transgendered.
The US population is TWO percent.

You think those views are over-represented in today’s media?


17 posted on 04/19/2011 11:27:09 AM PDT by tcrlaf (2012 Slogan: "You'd Have To Be Insane, To Vote For Hussein!")
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To: skeeter
What I don't understand is how they have been so successful keeping alternative worldviews out of their newsrooms.

FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!!


18 posted on 04/19/2011 11:28:01 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: edpc

How in the hell does one have air superiority over the battlespace, and not have the ability to destroy artillery??


19 posted on 04/19/2011 11:29:32 AM PDT by wheresmyusa (FTUN)
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To: edpc
I just have one thing to say:

Buffs.

20 posted on 04/19/2011 11:32:37 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Trickle Up Poverty.)
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To: tcrlaf
You think those views are over-represented in today’s media?

Big government socialism is the overarching theme, the only other two specific issues they seem care about are gay and feminist causes.

FNC has shown there is a huge underserved market of normal people out there, so the leftwing media's goal is ideological, not monetary. I'm surprised the ideologues have held off newroom reforms as long as they have.

21 posted on 04/19/2011 11:34:40 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: edpc; raygunfan; Cicero; tgusa; grobdriver

We are clearly looking at a mental disorder here. Psychological counseling sessions most often begin with “I can’t stop (fill in the blank). I need help.” I think as a first step we need to send NATO military aid in the form of cases of Depends for their leading generals and politicians. They likely have a problem with their urination and defecation, which is causing an embarrassment.


22 posted on 04/19/2011 11:35:41 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: edpc

Dumbest CIC = dumbest war

Obama makes a laughingstock out of the United States.


23 posted on 04/19/2011 11:36:21 AM PDT by dforest
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To: edpc

And with Turkey going even further Islamic, it’s going to get even harder for NATO to work effectively.


24 posted on 04/19/2011 11:38:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: wheresmyusa

“How in the hell does one have air superiority over the battlespace, and not have the ability to destroy artillery??”

Rules of engagement....


25 posted on 04/19/2011 11:43:55 AM PDT by tcrlaf (2012 Slogan: "You'd Have To Be Insane, To Vote For Hussein!")
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To: edpc

There’s a shock!


26 posted on 04/19/2011 11:44:56 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: wheresmyusa

Without infantry backed armor, air superiority can’t stop arty.


27 posted on 04/19/2011 11:48:09 AM PDT by wrench
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To: tcrlaf
Small artillery spread out over a wide area, with many fake units, you expand all of your bombs and get one now and then. The most of them keep doing their job and they move every few rounds.

and trying to take out three men mortar units is just peeing in the wind. Not to mention small rocket launchers on pick up trucks moving all the time. Smart bombs are designed to use on stationary target and very slow moving ones.

28 posted on 04/19/2011 11:52:04 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: edpc
Holy Counterbattery fire, Batman, whatever shall we do?

(Or should that be Holy Arclight ...)

29 posted on 04/19/2011 11:54:14 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (President Obama's approval ratings are so low now, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the US)
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To: edpc

“senior officers to advise the rebels.”

I saw, Chaps - bend over, grab your ankles, and kiss your a** goodbye.


30 posted on 04/19/2011 12:01:33 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: NonValueAdded

Holy Counterbattery fire, Batman, whatever shall we do?

(Or should that be Holy Arclight ...)

Call Mr. Spooky or Mr. Spectre.


31 posted on 04/19/2011 12:04:18 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: edpc

32 posted on 04/19/2011 12:04:57 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: edpc
I wonder if the reason they can't stop Khaddafi’s forces is because they are co-located with civilian housing or hospitals? Maybe they should ask the Israelis for advice on that? Or the troops in Iraq and AF who dealt with this for the last 10 years?

Or would that be politically incorrect?

33 posted on 04/19/2011 12:06:19 PM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: edpc

Ronald Reagan is credited with bringing about the collapse of the Warsaw Pact. Baraq Obama will be credited with bringing about the collapse of NATO.


34 posted on 04/19/2011 12:06:39 PM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: edpc
"They don't even make it difficult."


35 posted on 04/19/2011 12:08:07 PM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: wrench

I’m not being a smartass here, but i don’t follow. Are you saying infantry has to go in and take out the crews before we can drop a JDAM on their positions? I thought that was the whole point of developing precision munitions.


36 posted on 04/19/2011 12:10:52 PM PDT by wheresmyusa (FTUN)
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To: edpc

Time to send WEasley Clark in and bomb ‘em from 30,000 feet.. He’s experienced. :-)


37 posted on 04/19/2011 12:17:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

U.N. says 20 children killed in Misrata
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110419/wl_nm/us_libya

Toothless bastards,, Obama, biden, The UN, NATO, and all the rest of the orgs. that profess liberty and justice for all while they stab each other and us in the back.


38 posted on 04/19/2011 12:22:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: indylindy

>> Obama makes a laughingstock out of the United States.

Only of himself.


39 posted on 04/19/2011 12:24:20 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Gene Eric

Unfortunatly, that POS is the representative of the US.

It is hard to take.

He talks on TV or appears in video clips. The TV gets turned off at my house.


40 posted on 04/19/2011 12:31:08 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Uncle Miltie

What´s wrong with letting islamists kill islamists? Too much practice?


41 posted on 04/19/2011 12:34:18 PM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: indylindy

I sit by the TV with channel changer in hand and ready to strike at a moments notice. Whey I hear that idiots name or see a video of him, I immediately go to an alternative channel. Only way to watch TV until at least Jan. 2013.


42 posted on 04/19/2011 12:34:53 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: wheresmyusa

Artillery covers everything from mortars to rail guns. The smaller, self propelled guns and rocket launchers can shoot and scoot. Hide an a small building or a clump of trees. A favorite trick is to put them in the street next to a school or hospital, makes great news footage to have dead kids as collateral damage on the evening news. Israel is all but powerless to stop the mobile launchers that plague them.

These aren’t fixed arty positions that are easily spotted. If the jetjockeys get too trigger happy, you end up hitting friendlies as well as bad guys, saw that several times a couple weeks ago.


43 posted on 04/19/2011 12:35:51 PM PDT by wrench
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To: Mr. Wright

LOL, my hubby won’t even watch the news anymore for fear he won’t hit the remote quick enough.

My 80 year old father doesn’t want O’s name, whatever it really is, mentioned at family gatherings. Said he didn’t fight in a war to have communists take over anyway.


44 posted on 04/19/2011 12:39:04 PM PDT by dforest
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[What - counter-battery fire doesn’t work anymore?]

It works if you have the means to fix the exact coordinates of the enemy batteries, some of which are probably self-propelled and can be rapidly repositioned. Then you need weapons that can reach the target and destroy it. I'm just guessing but it seems they could try infiltrating Ghadaffi’s line at night with small teams of saboteurs to kill the gun crews and destroy the artillery and launchers.

45 posted on 04/19/2011 12:41:18 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: wrench

Point taken. I automatically think of big guns when someone says artillery. I guess we have no Apache gunships in theater, as we’ve gotten pretty good at tagging “shoot and scoot”-ers in Iraq and Afghanistan. Bring on some Hellfire!


46 posted on 04/19/2011 12:41:39 PM PDT by wheresmyusa (FTUN)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

France and Britain were pushing this not Urkel. He dithered and delayed doing anything until it was too late. He did not want this sideshow but was not strong enough to say “no”.


47 posted on 04/19/2011 1:27:22 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: org.whodat

Dumbest War Ever.


48 posted on 04/19/2011 1:29:32 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: edpc
NATO Says It Cannot Stop Shelling Of Libyan City

Kinda like pistachios.

49 posted on 04/19/2011 1:30:16 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: P.O.E.

Bet you can’t shell just one.


50 posted on 04/19/2011 1:39:42 PM PDT by 11Bush
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