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Trump Flashback: Reagan Was A "Con" Man Who Couldn’t "Deliver The Goods"
Townhall ^ | April 10, 2011 | Greg Hengler

Posted on 04/19/2011 5:42:57 PM PDT by ejdrapes

Trump Flashback: Reagan Was A "Con" Man Who Couldn’t "Deliver The Goods"

Greg Hengler
Posted at 2:25 PM ET, 4/19/2011

Anyone shocked? Me neither.

Furthermore, are you shocked that on Hannity the other night, Trump expressed how much he liked Reagan. Below the video, you will see an excerpt from his 1989 book, Art of the Deal.



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To: MrInvisible
So far I like what I see from Mr. Trump.

Me too, even if he doesn't have "Conservative" tattooed to his chest.

51 posted on 04/19/2011 8:01:32 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: jq2

To be fair, in ‘87, although Reagan was still overall popular, it was a weird time - after the good stuff of his first term happened, but before any of the really good effects of his second term kicked in.

Trump is Trump. He’s one of those guys that could honestly in his heart consider you his friend, but will still point out your faults to your face. It’s how he is.

I do have many questions and we do have to vet this guy, but can’t we just enjoy the show, let him decide what he wants to do, and then go from there?

Even if the nominee ends up being Palin, or Huckabee, or Cain (dreaming!), or, blech, even Romney, Trump’s presence may ultimately help them.


52 posted on 04/19/2011 8:05:20 PM PDT by RockinRight (Trump's "fake" conservatism is still better than the "real" conservatism of most of the GOP.)
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To: MrInvisible

I like what I see from Trump too. I really like his calling out China and how he correctly identifies how China is ripping off America. This is while both parties (Dems and Repubs) try to tip toe around the China issue. I am also fond of his position on making these oil rich countries we have rescued pay us back for our services. Those two ideas alone get Trump my vote.


53 posted on 04/19/2011 8:06:24 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: ejdrapes

They were. Absolutely.

However, when Trump talks, people listen. When conservative politicans who aren’t The Establishment talk, the media either shuns them, or ignores them.

Trump is forcing the media to pay attention to Palin and Bachmann more too.


54 posted on 04/19/2011 8:06:44 PM PDT by RockinRight (Trump's "fake" conservatism is still better than the "real" conservatism of most of the GOP.)
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To: RockinRight

Good question. It is early in the 2012 election cycle so maybe he is building his foundation and political support. He has been a fixture at Tea Party events. I share his op-eds, videos, etc... with family, friends, contacts to show that there are other candidates besides the ones the MSM and networks are discussing. I also remind them this isn’t an audition for “The Apprentice” nor “American Idol” it is the most important election for our country’s future. One that needs to once and for all kick the progressive/communist/democrat political ideology and their menions to the dust bin of mistakes and history. I remember this time in 2007 no one was talking about Obamabi nor McClaim so there is still time to have Mr. Cain heard.

I like what I hear from him and other conservatives who are not part of the DC Beltway cocktail set.


55 posted on 04/19/2011 8:12:08 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: RockinRight
The “Sarah or Bust” attitude at FR is going to rip this entire place apart. We have GOT to stop this.

Take it up with the Boss...

I can see 2012 from my house. Go, Sarah, GO!!

14 posted on Monday, April 18, 2011 2:48:27 PM by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)


56 posted on 04/19/2011 8:14:22 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Rooivalk

Priority #1 is getting Zero out and fixing the economy.

Mr. Trump, despite his foibles, is uniquely qualified since he’s a consummate businessman and not a lawyer or from the beltway.

What’s more, Mr. Trump loves America, zero does not.

The other GOP candidates have virtually no chance of winning and aren’t aggressive enough. Should they win they’ll acquiesce to the media and just play footsie with Barney Frank like they have been since January.


57 posted on 04/19/2011 8:16:09 PM PDT by MrInvisible
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

awww...now that is a really touching photo right there.


58 posted on 04/19/2011 8:17:26 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: MrInvisible

Trump loves Trump.


59 posted on 04/19/2011 8:17:55 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

If Palin’s the nominee - I’d vote for her happily and wouldn’t have to shower afterwards (can’t say that for others...)

I’d just love to see a real strategy to FUND her campaign...and figure out how she’s going to beat the Obama machine when independent voters as a whole dislike, even “fear” her (as ridiculous as that is.)


60 posted on 04/19/2011 8:18:42 PM PDT by RockinRight (Trump's "fake" conservatism is still better than the "real" conservatism of most of the GOP.)
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To: mountainlion
I keep visualizing Trump saying “Hillary, you are fired”

Are you kidding me? With Donald Trump, you're more likely to hear, "Hillary, you're hired."

61 posted on 04/19/2011 8:19:14 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

He does, but I really do belive he’s a Patriot, albeit an egotistical one.


62 posted on 04/19/2011 8:19:31 PM PDT by RockinRight (Trump's "fake" conservatism is still better than the "real" conservatism of most of the GOP.)
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To: mountainlion
I keep visualizing Trump saying “Hillary, you are fired”

Are you kidding me? With Donald Trump, you're more likely to hear, "Hillary, you're hired."

63 posted on 04/19/2011 8:19:35 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: mountainlion

“And bring your little dog, Bubba, too.”


64 posted on 04/19/2011 8:20:36 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ncalburt
What IS YOUR AGENDA IN TRYING TO SMEAR AND ASTROTURF and SHUT UP TRUMP.

Trump blew the lid off the scandals and open the door for Palin and Bachmann to attack too.

And we THANK him for his service to our country. We just don't want him to be our president, or to screw up the election chances of a good conservative.

Get on the same page with the rest of us, already.

65 posted on 04/19/2011 8:24:37 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RockinRight
Do you like that he has openly campaigned for national health care?
Do you like that he admires Nancy Pelosi except for her decision not to impeach Bush?
Do you like his donations to the most liberal, with nary a donation to the TEA party effort or any conservatives?

Just wondering.......

66 posted on 04/19/2011 8:28:10 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: RockinRight
The “Sarah or Bust” attitude at FR is going to rip this entire place apart. We have GOT to stop this.

Get bent. You don't like that this place supports Palin (by a wide margin), then go somewhere else.

67 posted on 04/19/2011 8:30:07 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RockinRight
They don’t like him at DU...can’t be all that liberal.

Lemme see... he donated to Rahm Emanuel's campaign just months ago. He also donated to Charlie Crist, Chuckie Shumer, and Hillary.

Yeah....."he can't be all that liberal."

68 posted on 04/19/2011 8:32:08 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

That’s fine, support her. Just don’t delude yourself into thinking she can beat Obama.

She has very high negatives. I sincerely want to know how she’s going to overcome them.

If she is the nominee I’ll eagerly support her.

If she actually beats Obama I’ll run through the streets naked.


69 posted on 04/19/2011 8:40:58 PM PDT by RockinRight (Trump's "fake" conservatism is still better than the "real" conservatism of most of the GOP.)
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To: Windflier

It’s business.

Not saying I like it, but it’s business. Almost all large CEO types donate to both sides.

Since Trump’s buildings are mostly in left-leaning areas, that’s naturally what you’ll see.

He did donate to Tom Coburn and George Allen, however.


70 posted on 04/19/2011 8:41:58 PM PDT by RockinRight (Trump's "fake" conservatism is still better than the "real" conservatism of most of the GOP.)
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To: RockinRight
If she is the nominee I’ll eagerly support her. If she actually beats Obama I’ll run through the streets naked.

I just hope you remember that FR posts are forever. I think me and several others are going to hold you to that.

71 posted on 04/19/2011 8:42:45 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Good. That’ll help my wife explain it to the cops.


72 posted on 04/19/2011 8:44:14 PM PDT by RockinRight (Trump's "fake" conservatism is still better than the "real" conservatism of most of the GOP.)
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To: RockinRight
Not saying I like it, but it’s business. Almost all large CEO types donate to both sides.

You're becoming a Trump apologist. Trump doesn't pass the smell test of any real conservative, and is nothing more than a sideshow promoter to most of us.

He's doing a great service to this country by taking Obama to the woodshed in the national media, but he's not qualified in any way to be our nominee.

There's no way in hell that the center-right base is going to support this guy after all of the revelations about him. It's not only his financial support of liberals, he's also taken decidedly liberal positions in the past, and has said glowing things about the enemy.

You want to support someone for president who thinks universal health care is a swell idea? Whoa....

73 posted on 04/19/2011 8:48:24 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RockinRight

LOL


74 posted on 04/19/2011 8:48:53 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I’m primarily a Herman Cain supporter, actually.

I’m still hoping he gains steam. Until then I’m enjoying The Donald’s presence.

Many large businesspeople DO donate to both parties - look at newsmeat.com, it’s all out there, not just Trump, and usually has to do with keeping a target off their backs. A sad commentary on the relationship between business and politics, unfortunately. Pay to play.

Herman Cain is an exception to that though - I looked.


75 posted on 04/19/2011 8:53:55 PM PDT by RockinRight (Trump's "fake" conservatism is still better than the "real" conservatism of most of the GOP.)
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To: RockinRight
They don’t like him at DU...can’t be all that liberal.

They don't like Lieberman either and he's as liberal as they come. I automatically dislike anyone with a "D" behind his name, I'm sure they feel the same way about someone who puts an "R" behind his name.

Trump supported Hillary, John Kerry and that racist congressman from Harlam, Charlie Rangle. What more do I need to know about him?

He's also a very recent "convert" to pro life. Sounds a lot like Romney to me.

76 posted on 04/19/2011 9:12:33 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: RockinRight
I’m primarily a Herman Cain supporter, actually. I’m still hoping he gains steam.

I love Herman Cain, too, but he's not going anywhere. He'd already have to be a household name to have any kind of chance at the nomination.

He tried to run for Congress a few years back and failed to win election. Now he wants to try for the big house.

Personally, I think that's illogical, but it's his life, and he's as free as any other constitutionally qualified American to run for that office.

77 posted on 04/19/2011 9:14:17 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Rudder

“Trump must go even if it cost us the election.”

So you’d rather have another four years of 0 than Trump?

As flawed as he is, Trump is superior to 0bama. What benefit do you see in having an eight year reign for 0bama?


78 posted on 04/19/2011 9:59:01 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: ejdrapes

You are bang on. My spidey-sense is off the charts. When people started putting out that the reason zero wouldn’t put out his lfbc was that he would put it out at the end I thought that was ridiculous. My thought was that with all the alternative media you couldn’t control the narrative. You couldn’t count on things breaking your way. Now I’m almost sure this it what is going to happen. And no matter how poor a forgery it is our pravda will accept it and give short shrift to anything else and pound on anyone who disputes. Palin wasn’t so stupid after all, was she.


79 posted on 04/19/2011 10:17:15 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: ejdrapes

Schwarzenegger redux.


80 posted on 04/19/2011 10:24:23 PM PDT by Jim 726
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To: Joann37

It’s called sarcasm.


81 posted on 04/19/2011 10:41:45 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: ejdrapes
I am not a Donald lover but I love it the way he is in Obama’s face. It's been a long 3+ years since anyone has gotten into Obama’s face.

The Donald seems to be a contraian. When a republican is POTUS he's democrat, when a democrat commie Is TOTUS, he's republican. I do want to remind you about a small incident in Palm Beach. The Donald flew over his Palm Beach property with pride an over sized American Flag. The Commie local government demanded he take it down. He sued Palm Beach and won. The flag flew proudly, then he sold the property to a Russian capitalist at a healthy profit. What can I say. He's The Donald and he's bringing the fight to Obama for the moment. I'm sitting back and enjoying it.

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/news/article_1237334.php/Trump_sues_Palm_Beach_over_size_of_his_pole

82 posted on 04/19/2011 11:07:56 PM PDT by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: Graybeard58; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; mkjessup
He's also a very recent "convert" to pro life. Sounds a lot like Romney to me.

I suppose it's possible for a man to come to his senses after being wrong so many times, but to assuage my doubts, Trump would have to act like a conservative for 4 years and then maybe run in 2016.

83 posted on 04/19/2011 11:54:56 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: RockinRight
I’d just love to see a real strategy to FUND her campaign...and figure out how she’s going to beat the Obama machine when independent voters as a whole dislike, even “fear” her (as ridiculous as that is.)

How do you know that she doesn't have such a strategy? Do you think she would blab it all over the web so that Obama's hit squads could attack and defeat it before the gate even opens?

84 posted on 04/20/2011 3:31:14 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: ejdrapes
Trump is going after Obama - good enough for me. When the primaries come around, I will decide my vote. This is just like Spring football - all scrimmages and no record at the end. I need to look into that Reagan quote - Reagan was a great man, and his convictions went down to the bone, as his letters have proved.

Trump's message resonates: we need to be strong economically. We need fair trade, not free trade. Give America a strong economy, and jobs, and every man can be king of his own castle, not a peasant in a shack he rents from a government that has its head up its ass. That is what is resonating.

Find me a Republican who has articulated it half as well and you will see Trump fade. Trouble is, none has. He puts the big picture in a nutshell that folks can feel at a personal level, without the equivocations and the “well, it's more complicated than that” and the “in a global marketplace, with our various multi-lateral military commitments and inter-dependencies, you have to understand that...” Hence we have Trump. He is making the sale.

Only Palin comes close in persuasiveness, but her record is thin. Not thinner than Obama’s, but thin. Christie has shown it takes a goomba to take on the goombas, and I like that. NO one is going to be Ivory Soap pure - I want the man or woman who will give us a strong economy and the freedom to run my own castle. The latter clause opens the door to issues of morality and essential liberties - you have to have life, liberty, and property to run your castle. The primaries and due dilligence will help me sift on that.

85 posted on 04/20/2011 4:28:39 AM PDT by Puddleglum (dance with the horse that brung ya)
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To: ejdrapes
Trump Flashback: Reagan Was A "Con" Man Who Couldn’t "Deliver The Goods"

Like Perot, another billionaire turd in the political punchbowl.
86 posted on 04/20/2011 4:33:08 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan
Like Perot, another billionaire turd in the political punchbowl.

How's that NAFTA working out for you?

87 posted on 04/20/2011 4:35:13 AM PDT by Puddleglum (dance with the horse that brung ya)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Common versions of the nursery rhyme include:

Tweedledum and Tweedledee
Agreed to have a battle;
For Tweedledum said Tweedledee
Had spoiled his nice new rattle.

Just then flew down a monstrous crow,
As black as a tar-barrel;
Which frightened both the heroes so,
They quite forgot their quarrel.[1]

From Wikipedia naturally;>)


88 posted on 04/20/2011 4:45:57 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: ejdrapes

Trump is nothing more than a showman who will utter whatever words will garner him the most attention at any given time. He`s completely amoral, with his “compass” focused only on the closure of a deal. One month he`s for universal health care, and the next he`s calling for repeal of ObamaCare. One month he`s blasting Reagan, the next he`s a Reagan conservative.

He also has donated to the political campaigns of Hillary Clinton, Charles Shumer, Charlie Rangel and Anthony Wiener, among others.

But, the unforgiveable offense in my book is his position on eminent domain abuse. He`s quite for it, so long as it benefits him. His record plainly shows it. He`s bully as a billionaire CEO. He`d be far more dangerous as President.

I`ve never trusted Trump before and will not in the future. I don`t give two sh*ts about whatever political party is Trump`s flavor of the month, he will never get my vote. When the primaries shake out and he`s atop the Republican Party, I`ll be voting for a third-party candidate.


89 posted on 04/20/2011 4:49:31 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: ncalburt

I`m for letting Trump pound away at Obama all he wants. It doesn`t change the fact he`s still an arrogant pr!ck and absolutely no fit for the Presidency.


90 posted on 04/20/2011 4:57:58 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: ejdrapes

I am not defending Trump he is probably attacking Obama for Hillary and wants to divide but the media sure are attacking him and digging. The media want Romneydemocrat.

If the media dug like this into Obama as professionals; America would not be in the peril she is in right now.


91 posted on 04/20/2011 5:00:17 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: ejdrapes

Donald Trump is about one thing and one thing only, Donald Trump. He is a political agnostic. He would screw a Democrat in a business deal just as fast as he would screw a Republican. He would build a 100 story abortion clinic and sell it to build a 100 story church - if he could make money on it.

If you want a President who would be fiscally prudent, wouldn’t compromise with anyone and couldn’t give two squirts of goose crap about any social issue, he’s your guy.


92 posted on 04/20/2011 5:06:09 AM PDT by IamConservative (Political power; the most evil thing devised by man. It corrupts morals and judgment.)
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What’s clearer than anything is that he’s in effect been running for President for a very long time: he’s always considered himself to be in that company, as far as power and influence goes, so he has no trouble whatsoever passing judgment as he sees fit.The more of this stuff and these statements we’re reminded of, the more it looks like he hasn’t thought very well of ANY President, except the current one when it was fashionable to do so.


93 posted on 04/20/2011 5:12:35 AM PDT by supremedoctrine (Come closer. I want to get a better look at you.)
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To: RockinRight

Eat right, sleep well and get a lot of exercise. You want to look good just in case you have to run through the streets naked.


94 posted on 04/20/2011 5:14:50 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: 3boysdad

I think that Bachmanns stock went up a bit basically because she was pushed by the MSM. But now the same MSM is pushing Trump.

Why is it that MB barely registers in the Hot Air poll etc, same deal for Trump.

Palin is the only way to go.


95 posted on 04/20/2011 5:17:04 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2012, please lord)
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To: Joann37

“As flawed as he is, Trump is superior to 0bama.”
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Any well groomed Jackass is superior to Obama!


96 posted on 04/20/2011 5:20:44 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: TheBigIf
Those that do vote for him (should he do the unthinkable and win, God forbid) may find they have blood on their hands when he makes his first appointment to the Supreme Court!

I can hear Trump now, not to worry folks, I am going to be guided by Ted Olson in my court picks...LOL

97 posted on 04/20/2011 5:23:44 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2012, please lord)
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To: ejdrapes

I am very dubious of Trump. It might be that the utter failure of socialist Obamanomics has caused him to have a revelation about conservative values, but I don’t want to elect a Johnny-Come-Lately-to-the-conservative-movement kind of guy.

That said, if it’s him versus the Teleprompter Pilot, I’d probably vote for him because even a RINO is better than a radical left-wing Marxist usurper.


98 posted on 04/20/2011 5:24:45 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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To: RockinRight

I guess you missed post #1


99 posted on 04/20/2011 5:24:51 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2012, please lord)
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To: 3boysdad

Bachman is a real positive possibility in my mind. I really wish Demint would run, but he has said he won’t. Cain seems like a great guy, but outside of the Tea Party he has no name recognition. Palin has little chance of election because the liberal media has so slandered her that no independent swing voters will ever know the truth about her.


100 posted on 04/20/2011 5:26:59 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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