Posted on 04/20/2011 7:58:33 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
Though an Angel should emerge from the Heavens to confirm Obama was born in Hawaii, I would not be deterred an iota from the quest to get Obama to release his Certificate of Live Birth.
The COLB, which was tardily, grudgingly and furtively produced, conveniently corresponds with the Obama narrative. The info on the Certificate of Live Birth may not, and the difference may well catch Obama in a lie, if not outright criminal fraud. The MSM will have been exposed as aiding and abetting the deceit, Dan Rathers each and every one. Your precious Fukina will be parsing her pronouncements and lawyering up.
The lingering doubt about the birthplace serves as the lever of Constitutional qualification that gives standing to The People to pry the incriminating original Certificate from the HI DOH files. With the birth certificate alone we have that lever, and not with all the other items he hides, which, like Marley's chain, forms a ponderous list.
As a conservative, nay rock-ribbed conservative, isn't it a delicious thought that in enforcing the Constitution's requirements Obama will be revealed as a fraud, and so too the MSM he rode in on. You don't want that? Would you not rejoice with all your Freeper brethren?
> Which issue is more substantive for you pray tell???
Any issue that doesn’t require the donning of your standard-issue tinfoil.
There’s a reason why Ann Coulter and rush Limbaugh want nothing to do with this issue.
There’s a reason why Gov. Brewer vetoed the birth certificate bill.
There’s a reason why Michelle Bachmann is (finally, thankfully) moving on from her brief flirtation with birther hysteria.
The reason? Serious, intelligent people want nothing to do with fantasy conspiracies.
How could BHO Sr. get a marriage license in Hawaii if he was married in Kenya?
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The ramifications for him in themselves are a big red flag...
Obama would not have risked losing his opportunity for a great education...
Plus jail in a foreign country...
and his Dads displeasure
and the disgrace back home
His papers (the same ones he would have to show to be married) would have said MARRIED)
As for:
“nor has any paperwork been presented for Obama Sr. claiming fathership.”
Ahem, that would be the birth certificate, and its on the COLB. But then you also have Obama’s autobiography.
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No it wouldnt be...
There is no signature for Obama on the COLB
(There is no “birth certificate”)
and you can believe Barrys fiction if you want to...
they are only books...
he hasnt sworn in court they were true
Nor has most of it ever been proven...
> Which issue is more substantive for you pray tell???
Any issue that doesn’t require the donning of your standard-issue tinfoil.
There’s a reason why Ann Coulter and rush Limbaugh want nothing to do with this issue.
There’s a reason why Gov. Brewer vetoed the birth certificate bill.
There’s a reason why Michelle Bachmann is (finally, thankfully) moving on from her brief flirtation with birther hysteria.
The reason? Serious, intelligent people want nothing to do with fantasy conspiracies.
Why are these people that you mention so important to you? Put into perspective that Rush perhaps reaches 30 million people during his radio broadcast (I am not sure how much approximately). That means that over 280 million people never hear what he has to say.
Ann Coulter, please!!! She used to bonk Jerry Rivers (Geraldo).
In politics not is all what it seems...
Governor Brewer Is Right…Eligibility Law Should Avoid Appearing Like Obama’s Autonomous Crimes
http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/04/governor-brewer-is-righteligibility.html
What is the conspiracy? How about document fraud, identity theft, social security fraud? All serious crimes tied together with a fraudulent COLB. See a pattern of behavior???
So serious people like you want to continue to “engage” an individual who puts himself above the law?
I had heard that from another blog, as well.
That he was married to Kezia, in Kenya, is established, I believe.
It could be that polygamy was practiced in Kenya at that time, but definitely not in Hawaii. I wonder how he got a marriage license.
Do you know if a Hawaiian marriage certificate for SAD/BHO Sr. is available for viewing?
Do you know if a Hawaiian marriage certificate for SAD/BHO Sr. is available for viewing?
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No there is none in the divorce papers and there doesnt seem to be one on file anywhere
The COLB is invalid (any alteration makes the document invalid - look at the document, there are several fields missing from it and the number had been redacted).
You continue to perpetuate the lie that a person named Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Hawaii.
There is no index data at the HDOH for a Barack Hussein Obama II, there is no LFBC either. No hospital has records that a Barack Hussein Obama II was born there, nor will any hospital claim today that he was born there.
THERE IS index data existing for Steve Dunham however. So who is in the Oval Office today?
In short order you will come to know that the entire Obama narrative is a hoax...
“I would not be deterred an iota from the quest to get Obama to release his Certificate of Live Birth.”
Fine.
But it will only confirm what you’ve already been told about his birthplace.
“The lingering doubt about the birthplace serves as ...” a useful foil for the left to mock the right as conspiracy-minded retards who are so racist that they have to invent a non-US birthplace for the Hawaiian-born first black President. It feeds the left’s ‘narrative’ wonderfully.
“As a conservative, nay rock-ribbed conservative, isn’t it a delicious thought that in enforcing the Constitution’s requirements Obama will be revealed as a fraud”
What fraud is there wrt his birthplace? Supposition without evidence.
” .. and so too the MSM he rode in on. You don’t want that?”
Wanting and getting are 2 different things. I want Obama out of the White House. My personal faviorte would be impeachment over corrupt stimulus money handouts. Nice fantasy. Sadly, you could impeach Obama even if he was operating a crackhouse at the White House.
I understand, you want a pony. You have a pile of something and you keep digging, hoping you’ll get your pony. After all with this must s*** on him, the MUST be a pony in there. And you dont appreciate someone telling you that all you got is a steamin’ pile of road apples. No pony for the birthers. But 3 years of digging ... and no pony. There will be no pony on birther-mas. Just more digging. Have at it.
“and prove that Stan Ann Dunham and Barak Obama were ever married..”
Done. See #331. If the court documents that assert the marriage as a FACT in the very Hawaii divorce proceeding dissolving that very marriage isn’t PROOF enough for you, nothing is.
Not in Hawaii
Bigamy isnt legal
There was no legal marriage...
if the fact that Barak Obama ALREADY had a legal wife back home in Kenya and therefore could not get married to anyone in the US is not PROOF enough for you that there was no marriage between Stan Ann Dunham and Barak Obama then nothing is....
“You’ve been arguing on these bc threads long enough to have read the testimony of dozens upon dozens of Freepers who have testified that they, or other family members have phoned in birth announcements to local papers.”
People making 2nd-hand claims about other papers at other times are really of no relevence. If its not to the Honolulu papers, it’s not pertinent to the question ofthe categories THAT PAPER used, and the process THAT PAPER used to get things into the birth announcements.
Journalists HAVE looked into the question for the specific Honolulu papers - Honolulu Advertiser and Star-Bulletin . IN each case, the answer has come back, that these papers got their information from the public records filed with state of Hawaii. Here’s WND on it:
” Likewise, the Honolulu Advertiser, which ran a Barack Obama birth announcement in the Aug. 13, 1961, Sunday Advertiser, relies on the state-issued certification, rather than reporting from hospitals.
The Advertiser’s Marsha McFadden told WND at the time of Obama’s birth announcement, the newspaper got all of its information from the state Department of Health. That would include the address.
“If we published it, it came from the state,” she said.
She said today’s rules are different. Anyone can submit information for announcements but the newspaper requires a birth document to verify. It also no longer uses addresses.”
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=104678#ixzz1KC2U0sNV
prove that Stan Ann Dunham and Barak Obama were ever married..
You have yet to accomplish that...
LOL, you’d have made a great OJ juror.
The sky remains blue, despite your insistence otherwise.
Anyway, all of the parents in the birth announcements in the Aug 1961 Honolulu paper are of the “Mr and Mrs” variety, including “Mr and Mrs Barack H Obama” ... it was a quaint era.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/ObamaBirthStarBulletin.jpg
“Mr and Mrs Barack H Obama” ..
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Yeah but who is the Mrs ???
There was a Mrs Barak H Obama back in Kenya
Is that her ???
prove that Stan Ann Dunham and Barak Obama were ever married..
You have yet to accomplish that...
“The COLB is invalid “
No its not. HOW SO?
“any alteration makes the document invalid - look at the document, there are several fields missing from it and the number had been redacted”
NO it hasnt. The certificate number is right there: 151 1961-010641
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_2.jpg
“There is no index data at the HDOH for a Barack Hussein Obama II”
Yes, there was, and I quoted it in a previous post. This was shared by Hawaii with birthers making info requests:
On Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:47 PM, Janice Okubo responded to KingsKid with an email. Attached to the email were the following Index Data:
BIRTH INDEX — OFFICE OF HEALTH STATUS MONITORING
CHILD — OBAMA II, BARACK HUSSEIN
GENDER — M
“there is no LFBC either.”
yes there is. According to state official Dr Fukino in Hawaii, it’s on file with the state of Hawaii and she reviewed it and verified the information matched the information shared (ie the COLB):
” Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.
Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document’s validity. “It is real, and no amount of saying it is not, is going to change that,” Fukino said.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42519951
On Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:47 PM, Janice Okubo responded to KingsKid with an email. Attached to the email were the following Index Data:
BIRTH INDEX — OFFICE OF HEALTH STATUS MONITORING
CHILD — OBAMA II, BARACK HUSSEIN
GENDER — M
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So KingsKid got an EMail
Who was it from ???
Your act at pretending to be dumb and ignorant is way too convincing.
Proof of marriage is in #331.
If you cannot grasp based on the Hawaii marriage record and state divorce filing that Stanley Ann Dunham was Mr Barack H Obama on Aug 4, 1961 when she had Barack H Obama II, well ...
You cant grasp anything,
I cannot educate the uneducable.
“Who was it from ???”
Janice Okubo, Communications Dir of Hawaii Dept of Health.
Thank you WOSG. You have posted a lot of spam that most of us have seen already. But we still want to see his long form birth certificate. I noticed you didn’t provide THAT information. ;-)
Barack Obama ‘s communist policies are out in the open. But his secrets are being kept in the closet. That’s why he’s spending millions of dollars to keep his long form birth certificate from the voters.
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