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Michele Bachmann ready to 'move on' from birther issue (Accepts COLB)
Politico ^ | 04/20/2011 | MAGGIE HABERMAN

Posted on 04/20/2011 7:58:33 AM PDT by Smokeyblue

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To: WOSG

“Who was it from ???”

Janice Okubo, Communications Dir of Hawaii Dept of Health.
______________________________________________

It was an EMail

It could have come from anyone


361 posted on 04/21/2011 3:20:24 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: WOSG

If you cannot grasp based on the Hawaii marriage laws that Barak Obama, British national, born in Kenya, here merely on a student visa, anhd not a legal resident, would not have jepardized his liberty and future for any white American non-moslem floozy by committinmg a felony and sp0ending time in an American jail, then you really are in a world of hurt...

Barak Obama would have signed sworn documents thast he would not commit any crimes while in the US...

What dont you get ???

As a BarryBot do you think Barak Obama weould have had diplomatic immunity from prosecution just because he was a supposed sperm donor for a future White House resident ???


362 posted on 04/21/2011 3:28:35 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: WOSG
The Advertiser’s Marsha McFadden told WND at the time of Obama’s birth announcement, the newspaper got all of its information from the state Department of Health. That would include the address.

Sure, and old Marsha would know, because she was working at the Honolulu Advertiser when Zero was born. I think I'll take what Marsha says with a grain of salt.

As far as the address is concerned, it's wrong. None of the Dunhams, nor Obama Sr. ever lived there, as the home owner has stated on record.

If you anti-birthers want to present evidence, you need to verify that it checks out before trying to build your case on it.

In 1961, anyone could obtain a Hawaiian COLB for their kid, no matter where they were born, so even if the papers got their information from the state in order to print the birth announcements, it's not conclusive proof that Obama was born in Hawaii.

A COLB is a secondary abstract which is taken from information on a Certificate of Live Birth, i.e., an official long form birth certificate.

Barry has yet to prove that the piece of paper his drones have bandied about, is the real magilla, therefore no one knows what his actual condition of citizenship is.

An honest man would have produced his original LFBC the first time the public asked for it - especially if that man had been chosen as a nominee for president, and MOST especially if that man had actually been elected to the office.

Instead, Obama and his people have steadfastly refused to answer the public's simple question by releasing his primary birth record. Logic dictates that he either can't produce a primary birth certificate, or that there's something about it that would disqualify him from holding the office of president.

This is the long and short of the issue (no pun intended). I still can see no logical reason that you would not want to see Barry's LFBC to put everything about this question to rest, once and for all.

You claim to want to go after Obama on substantive issues. Again - logic dictates that you, of all people, would be demanding for him to end this by simply releasing a stinking $12 document. So should his liberal supporters.

It's an honest question that the American people have every right to ask their president. Obviously, millions of Americans are dissatisfied with the answers they've received thus far, although some, like you, accept what's been proffered.

If your goal here is to try to convince Freepers that they ought to give up the quest for Barry's LFBC, and accept the electronic images, hearsay, and government apparatchik press statements that have been offered, you're wasting your time.

The battle lines on this issue were formed a long time ago, and you're not likely to make many new converts to your cause, at this point.

363 posted on 04/21/2011 4:03:04 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Around about 1961 my mother commented an article that was in the NZ newspaper...

Women in other countries were wanting their children to be American so they were breaking into the US Embassy in their country in order to have their baby on the grounds...US soil...

My New Zealand mother was shocked and thought that it was a terrible thing to do...

She would not have understood the bennies derived from an American citizenship...

But Stan Ann and/or her Mom would have

Gosh it may have been Stanley the Dads idea...

If it was that important to foreign women to have their bebies blessed with a US citizenship just think how much more an American family would not have wanted a grandchild to miss out on that status..

The opportunity and the desire to have Barry appear to be born a natural born Amertican citizen was there...

The Dunhams hated the US they were communists when Communism was king in a good part of the world...the heyday...

They would not have thought twice about chaeting the US governemtn or falsifying records...

Everything was on paper...

there was little kept on computers...

It would have been easy for them to tweak here and there...

Especially since they could so effortlessly get a COLB in hawaii...

In those days anyone could put a notice in a newspaper for the cost of the lines

If there had been a notice in 2 newspapers about the “marriage” it would have been interesting...

but there wasnt

Which begs the question

Why did Granny put the 2 phony notices in the papers about the birth

but not about the marriage of her only fond and beloved daughter ???

Because there was no marriage...

any “Mr and Mrs Barak H Obama” who were living in hawaii and had a son was launched when Granny put the notices in the newspaper...

Until then Stan Ann was not considered Mrs Obama, legal or not...

The expected baby was black

now what to do what to do ???

Make her a Sadie Sadie married lady at least...


364 posted on 04/21/2011 4:31:18 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
Around about 1961 my mother commented an article that was in the NZ newspaper...

Women in other countries were wanting their children to be American so they were breaking into the US Embassy in their country in order to have their baby on the grounds...US soil...

My New Zealand mother was shocked and thought that it was a terrible thing to do...

She would not have understood the bennies derived from an American citizenship...But Stan Ann and/or her Mom would have

There you go again. Using logic and reason to fill in the blanks in Barry's tale.

Stop making sense, would ya? LOL

365 posted on 04/21/2011 4:58:23 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Tennessee Nana; WOSG
It would be a lot easier to follow this tete-a-tete you two are having, if you followed the long standing FR convention of putting the quote upon which you are commenting in italics.

(Just a suggestion).

366 posted on 04/21/2011 5:45:50 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch
Mr and Mrs Barack H Obama lived in Kenya

Mr Barack H Obama came to Hawaii without Mrs Barack H Obama

Mrs Barack H Obama stayed back in Kenya with their child

Hows that ???

;)

367 posted on 04/21/2011 6:20:59 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: WOSG
Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document’s validity. “It is real, and no amount of saying it is not, is going to change that,” Fukino said.”

Everything you have quoted in bold above is the word of the journalist, not Fukino. And not just any journalist, but Michael Isikoff, he of the ...in an attempt to rattle suspects, flushed a Qur'an down a toilet fame, that Newsweek was forced to retract, but not before riots killed 17 in Afghanistan alone. Isikoff has made up things before.

In this MSNBC story you use as a source, every word Isikoff writes is purposed to cover for Obama, and to ease the legal peril of Fukina, who gets Isikoff to make the statements for her.

Fukina says it is real. What is it? What Isikoff put before in the paragraph? No one knows.

When your case has sunk so low that you are reduced to trotting out the disinformation of disgraced leftist hack Michael Isikoff, surely this must give a rock-ribbed conservative pause. Apparently not, however.

Most curious.

368 posted on 04/21/2011 6:21:57 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch
Oh and

Mr Barack H Obama may or may not have have an extramarital affair with one, Stanley Ann Dunham, age 17

369 posted on 04/21/2011 6:23:32 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
Excellent!
370 posted on 04/21/2011 6:24:47 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch
Thank you
371 posted on 04/21/2011 6:26:45 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: technonerd; P-Marlowe; Jim Robinson
The Birthers are telling us they saw a herd of piebald centaurs.

In another post, you think it fine to put up material that says the "birther" motivation is "racism."

In this one you say that they are delusional.

You are a newbie, so allow me to suggest that "Proofers" want the proof.

You are so smart, then tell my WHY Obama has refused to release his original birth certificate and bring this to an end? Very simply tell us what is his reason?

372 posted on 04/21/2011 6:37:47 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: ironman

You like quotes...here’sm one under oath and penalty of perjurt, unlike those officials you are so fond of in Hawaii.

Tim Adams affidavit, No Obama birth certificate in Hawaii, No medical records Queens Medical Center Kapi’olani Medical Center

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/01/25/tim-adams-affidavit-no-obama-birth-certificate-in-hawaii-no-medical-records-queens-medical-center-kapiolani-medical-center/


373 posted on 04/21/2011 7:07:54 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: WOSG
Do you know what the nearest/closest star to the sun is? And Do you know how far away it is?
What has this got to do with the subject at hand?
374 posted on 04/21/2011 7:23:04 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: WOSG

Tim Adams affidavit, No Obama birth certificate in Hawaii, No medical records Queens Medical Center Kapi’olani Medical Center

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/01/25/tim-adams-affidavit-no-obama-birth-certificate-in-hawaii-no-medical-records-queens-medical-center-kapiolani-medical-center/


375 posted on 04/21/2011 7:25:00 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: WOSG
...the newspaper got all of its information from the state Department of Health.
That's fine and dandy. Where does the state Department of Health get its information to send to the newspaper?
376 posted on 04/21/2011 7:34:38 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: WOSG; All

FORMER) CHAIR of CA D PARTY CONFIRMS “jbjd” CORRECT: 2009 PRESSER WAS a DOG-and-PONY SHOW

http://jbjd.org/2011/04/21/2009-presser-dog-pony-sho/


377 posted on 04/21/2011 7:39:44 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: philman_36; WOSG
That's fine and dandy. Where does the state Department of Health get its information to send to the newspaper?
378 posted on 04/21/2011 7:42:15 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: WOSG
LOL, you’d have made a great OJ juror.
Somebody told me a similar thing here one time. It may very well have been you. I'll have to see if I can find it.
We've both frequented the WOsD threads many times over the years and I do think it was on one of those threads where it happened.
379 posted on 04/21/2011 7:42:58 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Is that a thread killer? I hope not.


380 posted on 04/21/2011 8:02:28 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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