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Poll: GOP's 2012 contenders unknown, unloved
CBSNews.com ^ | 04/21/2011 | Sarah Dutton, Jennifer De Pinto

Posted on 04/21/2011 11:34:21 AM PDT by OldDeckHand

It's early yet, but the Grand Old Party clearly has its work cut out to sell the voting American public on a candidate to challenge President Obama in the 2012 national election.

A 56 percent majority of Republican voters told a CBS News/New York Times poll that none of the names officially or unofficially in the hat at this stage made them feel enthusiastic as potential nominees.


(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; bachmann; barbour; daniels; gingrich; giuliani; huckabee; huntsman; palin; pawlenty; polls; primary; republican; romney; santorum; trump
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1 posted on 04/21/2011 11:34:25 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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2 posted on 04/21/2011 11:35:16 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Sarah Palin is the only one over 50% UF among RV’s.

Huckabee might be worth reconsidering after seeing these numbers.


3 posted on 04/21/2011 11:40:05 AM PDT by RockinRight (Trump's "fake" conservatism is still better than the "real" conservatism of most of the GOP.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Who in their right mind would want that job.....The Left has this country on the edge of a cliff, and in their minds anyone sitting in the POTUS the day the thing falls over, even for just a day-——it will be their fault

Never mind the decline started w FDR, accelerated w/ LBJ,Carter, Clinton, and now the coup’de grace w/ Obama

Grab the Senate with enough votes to override Veto’s and let the Left hand themselves with thier own economic morass and hang the blame solidly on Obama and the dem’cats where it needs to be.......start a massive media campaign.


4 posted on 04/21/2011 11:47:11 AM PDT by sbark
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To: OldDeckHand

Duck, the herd will be here shortly.


5 posted on 04/21/2011 11:48:21 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: OldDeckHand

CBS/NYT polling is skewed to promote only Republican candidates for whom Independents WILL NOT vote. Obama is sinking among this group and is full bore out to regain his footing with them since both sides know Independents decide the next election.


6 posted on 04/21/2011 11:49:22 AM PDT by RitaOK
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To: sbark
Grab the Senate with enough votes to override Veto’s and let the Left hand themselves with thier own economic morass and hang the blame solidly on Obama and the dem’cats where it needs to be.......start a massive media campaign.

And, the let the Supreme Court have a leftist majority for generation? No thank you.

7 posted on 04/21/2011 11:50:45 AM PDT by RINOs suck
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8 posted on 04/21/2011 11:51:52 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: org.whodat

I’m sick of these stupid polls when only 1 or 2 have declared their candidacy. I know the MSM is chomping at the bit to start trashing the candidates.

Most won’t announce until June. I, too, don’t understand why anyone would want this job unless its for the power and perks. There may be a few who really want to serve (Sarah) but, for the others, I question their motives.


9 posted on 04/21/2011 11:52:25 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: OldDeckHand
Given that none of them have actually declared yet, it's hardly surprising that the highest rating tends to be "undecided/haven't heard enough.

By this time next year, the eventual nominee will be much better known, and that won't be a problem.

10 posted on 04/21/2011 11:53:49 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: OldDeckHand

Sarah and Bachmann are the only two worth a dang on that list.

Col. Allen West for POTUS.


11 posted on 04/21/2011 11:53:57 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: org.whodat; Reddon; gimme1ibertee; BCEagles; secondamendmentkid; RINOs suck; johncocktoasten; ...

And the herd has arrived...


12 posted on 04/21/2011 11:53:57 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: OldDeckHand

Any of these prospective candidates would be better than Obama. Do they have baggage? Sure, but Obama now has far more than he started with. He’s a disaster!

We all know that people usually vote their pocketbooks. The big question in my mind is: Are the productive voters who have jobs or want to work going to outnumber the sponges relying on government for their livlihood? Obama is counting on the sponges.


13 posted on 04/21/2011 11:54:08 AM PDT by bopdowah ("Unlike King Midas, whatever the Gubmint touches sure don't turn to Gold!')
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To: OldDeckHand
In some of the earliest GOP 'straw' polls, Other was getting 80%.
14 posted on 04/21/2011 11:57:04 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: sbark
"Grab the Senate with enough votes to override Veto’s"

That would never happen. The presidential coattails are just too powerful. The instances where the party that lost the national popular vote added 6 or more (or any) seats in the Senate are not very numerable. I think it might have happened in 1996, and the GOP only gained a couple or three seats, and perhaps again in 1988 with a one or two seat pick-up for the Dems, even though they lost the White House.

Generally, when we see big swings in the Senate is when it's the party of the winning presidential nominee making big gains, like in 1980 where the GOP picked up (I think) 12 seats.

15 posted on 04/21/2011 11:57:33 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: RockinRight

Bite your typing fingers!! Not in this life.


16 posted on 04/21/2011 11:58:09 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Note: I do NOT capitalize anything I don't respect...like obama and/or islam...but I repeat myself.)
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To: OldDeckHand

And we should pay attention to CBS...why?


17 posted on 04/21/2011 11:59:05 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Why do people try to "out-nice" Jesus?)
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To: RockinRight
Huckabee's numbers are consistenly at the top. Shows you how the freeper community doesn't represent the GOP voters at large.

PS-I'm not a Huckabee supporter, my name comes from Mark Twain.

18 posted on 04/21/2011 11:59:09 AM PDT by Huck (We must have universal healthcare. -- Donald Trump.)
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To: RitaOK
"CBS/NYT polling is skewed to promote only Republican candidates for whom Independents WILL NOT vote."

I would love to know how they do that. Do tell.

19 posted on 04/21/2011 11:59:12 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

The Registered voters category is VERY telling and we must learn to be realistic that they are true.


20 posted on 04/21/2011 12:00:09 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: TomGuy

Not too surprising looking at this list of has-beens and never-was’s.


21 posted on 04/21/2011 12:01:29 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: Huck

No, you just support Mitch Daniels.


22 posted on 04/21/2011 12:02:07 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: OldDeckHand
How in the hell does the Huckster lead in most of these type polls?

What are people thinking?

23 posted on 04/21/2011 12:04:20 PM PDT by SMM48
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To: RockinRight
Elmer Gantry??? Worth reconsidering????????

He's a socialist fraud, lets murderers out of jail, is for amnesty, pushed gun-control legislation, raised a dog-killing lard-ass of a son, and is a lousy bassist.




24 posted on 04/21/2011 12:04:50 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (One of these days, Alice....one of these days...POW! Right in the kisser!!!!)
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To: Huck

We learned that in 2008 as the people changed allegiance repeatedly as the field was narrowed down to McCain. First it was Hunter, then Fred, then finally Mitt, then the acceptance of McStain. I also learned that sometimes when the polls show you losing, you’re really losing, it ain’t all “special sauce”.


25 posted on 04/21/2011 12:05:47 PM PDT by SoDak
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Not too surprising looking at this list of has-beens and never-was’s.

True. Retreads.

Did that in '96 and lost. Did it again in '08 and lost.


26 posted on 04/21/2011 12:07:50 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: SMM48
"What are people thinking?"

Most people aren't. That is to say, most people who are registered voters aren't very informed about specific issues or policies, and they aren't very familiar with the records of specific candidates. Instead, they decide things on emotion or feel. Sadly, their votes count just as much as yours, or mine and there are a LOT more of those kind of voters than our kind of voters. That's the political reality.

Huckabee, for all of his policy faults, comes across as a reasonable and measured guy. "People" - the great unwashed masses - love that kind of thing.

27 posted on 04/21/2011 12:08:28 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Huck
Huckabee's numbers are up there because of the myopic so-cons who think Matthew and Acts describes God-ordained socialism and listen to their idiot preachers instead of common sense.


28 posted on 04/21/2011 12:09:13 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (One of these days, Alice....one of these days...POW! Right in the kisser!!!!)
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Bingo - those types disgust me to know end.


29 posted on 04/21/2011 12:11:30 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (F U B O ! ! !)
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To: OldDeckHand
Got to keep an open mind, CBS can't be relied upon to deliver the facts. They got history, unfavorable to conservatives. Can't let the media select our candidate, again.
30 posted on 04/21/2011 12:11:37 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: org.whodat

Which herd?


31 posted on 04/21/2011 12:14:25 PM PDT by RockinRight (Trump's "fake" conservatism is still better than the "real" conservatism of most of the GOP.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Yeah, I’m done reconsidering.


32 posted on 04/21/2011 12:14:57 PM PDT by RockinRight (Trump's "fake" conservatism is still better than the "real" conservatism of most of the GOP.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Unfortunately FR is infested with them like bedbugs in a cheap motel.


33 posted on 04/21/2011 12:15:26 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (One of these days, Alice....one of these days...POW! Right in the kisser!!!!)
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To: RockinRight

I don’t like Huckabee and would not vote for him.


34 posted on 04/21/2011 12:22:12 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: RockinRight

If they run the Huckster I am not voting Republican or Democrat.


35 posted on 04/21/2011 12:26:32 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: RockinRight

“Sarah Palin is the only one over 50% UF among RV’s.”

She’s also the only one I would vote for.


36 posted on 04/21/2011 12:29:16 PM PDT by jessduntno (Liberalism is socialism in a party dress. And just as masculine.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Amen!!!


37 posted on 04/21/2011 12:31:08 PM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: RockinRight
Sarah Palin is the only one over 50% UF among RV’s.

"among all registered voters" That includes the donks.

The details of the poll are bizarre. It states republicans were "over sampled" at 543 and the total interviewed was 1,224. That is only 44.3% republicans, not exactly "over sampled" by any definition I am aware of.

Then, the fun part... The results were then weighted in proportion to the average party distributions in previous 2011 CBS News and CBS News/New York Times Polls and in the random sample in this poll.

No info on exactly what percentages were applied. No info on locations.

Basically, it's worthless. Like See-BS itself.

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38 posted on 04/21/2011 12:31:19 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I like Mitch Daniels. But I recognize he’s got no chance at all. Hell, I’m not even sure he’s running. But yeah, I think he’s pretty decent compared to the others.


39 posted on 04/21/2011 12:35:52 PM PDT by Huck (We must have universal healthcare. -- Donald Trump.)
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To: RockinRight
[This poll was conducted among a random sample of 1,332 adults nationwide, interviewed by telephone April 15-20, 2011. The error due to sampling for results based on the entire sample could be plus or minus three percentage points. The error for subgroups is higher. An oversample of Republicans was also conducted for this poll, for a total of 543 interviews among this group. The results were then weighted in proportion to the average party distributions in previous 2011 CBS News and CBS News/New York Times Polls and in the random sample in this poll. The margin of error for Republicans is plus or minus five percentage points.]
40 posted on 04/21/2011 12:39:12 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: OldDeckHand

Wow. Palin at 26% A, 55% D, 18% U...

MSM: Mission accomplished.


41 posted on 04/21/2011 12:40:20 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: OldDeckHand

I would love to know how they do that. Do tell. “ =========

The “duh” momment will come to you when you bother to feign some degree of interest in the “do tell” variables of any poll. For instance how the poll is weighted; by the turn of the question itself, Democrats over Republicans, or females over males, education level and ages of those polled, the geographic region(s) of the polling, etc., etc., etc.


42 posted on 04/21/2011 12:40:20 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: TLI
"That is only 44.3% republicans, not exactly "over sampled" by any definition I am aware of."

Actually, given the results of the last mid-term election, that is oversampled by roughly 7-points. The 2010 party identification numbers were split evenly amonst Dems-Republican 36/36 and 28% Indies, which I believe is one of the largest Indy representation in the modern era.

2010 Elections Exit Poll Analysis:

"Democrats and Republicans were at parity in self-identification nationally, 36-36 percent, a return to the close division seen in years before 2008, when it broke dramatically in the Democrats' favor, 40-33 percent."

43 posted on 04/21/2011 12:41:19 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: SoDak

I’ll tell you what. I found Huckabee to be a cagey SOB last time around. And if you look at RCP, he’s constantly number one. Palin’s numbers, not surprisingly, look similar to Fred Thompson’s. If Huckabee runs, I’m betting he wins IA and is a major player in SC.


44 posted on 04/21/2011 12:43:00 PM PDT by Huck (We must have universal healthcare. -- Donald Trump.)
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To: jessduntno

I, like many Americans would vote for the devil himself before I would not vote or vote for the fraud obama. Stay home...and not vote in this next election borders on treason IMHO...


45 posted on 04/21/2011 12:45:39 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: OldDeckHand
Who knew who Barack Obama was at this time in the campaign. Hell, we still don't know who he is.
46 posted on 04/21/2011 12:45:48 PM PDT by McGruff (When it comes to Obama's birth certificate. Trust, but verify.)
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To: RockinRight

When Palin starts running, those unfavorables will disappear like the morning dew. People who don’t pay attention to politics & get their info from the MSM tend to be “unfavorable.” One exposure to Sarah will convert the majority of them!


47 posted on 04/21/2011 12:55:04 PM PDT by NJ_Tom (Who ever thought that Kenya would be the next nuclear power?)
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To: TLI

It is a weird poll, but, if more than half of ALL voters oppose Palin, she ain’t gonna beat Obama, at least today she wouldn’t.


48 posted on 04/21/2011 12:55:04 PM PDT by RockinRight (Trump's "fake" conservatism is still better than the "real" conservatism of most of the GOP.)
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To: RitaOK
All of that could have happened, but I don't see ANY evidence that it did happen. And, CBS pretty clearly discloses what the weighting was with respect to the party ID, and explains what might impact MOE.

More over, this CBS poll only is reporting on the candidate's favorability/unfavorability as well as their degree of familiarity with the electorate, the poll is not at all incongruous with RCP average.

Put another way, this poll is absolutely in-keeping with every other poll that I have seen the last few weeks.

49 posted on 04/21/2011 12:57:43 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

In other words, Huckabee can win, Romney might be able to, Palin can’t, and Trump would struggle (but if anyone can overcome negatives, it’s Trump). The others fall somewhere in the middle.


50 posted on 04/21/2011 1:03:32 PM PDT by RockinRight (Trump's "fake" conservatism is still better than the "real" conservatism of most of the GOP.)
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