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Obama's Birthplace Mystery: The Real Issue
The American Thinker ^ | April 27, 2011 | Elwin Tobing

Posted on 04/27/2011 12:19:55 AM PDT by Scanian

An otherwise casual question has turned out to be one of the most elusive and divisive questions of the young 21st century: where was Barack Obama born? The left despises those who ask the question. Some on the right ridicule those who raise the issue, while a sizeable number of Americans are insisting that Obama was born outside of the US and hence he is ineligible to be president.

Whether intentionally or not, they are either missing or distorting the real issue. An inquiry to Obama's birthplace should be viewed in light of the sheer weight of the position he holds: a national and world leader. If the job involved were a county-level clerk position, questions about Obama's personal history would indeed be less relevant and a distraction. Instead, what is at stake here is the America's future. Voting for someone to be US President is akin to mortgaging the nation's future to that individual. As such, knowledge of the background of the person is essential. Even taking out a low dollar mortgage loan requires a diligent, proper, and thorough review of the applicant's historical financial information. As the recent years have shown, when basic principles of prudent lending were abandoned, financial crisis ensued. Is this an foreshadowing of Obama's presidency?

Which brings us to the real issue in the saga of Obama's birthplace mystery: character and trust. Obama's principles and paradigms of thinking, which guide his leadership and policy making, are not independent from his character. This is because character, which can be understood as the moral qualities unique to an individual, defines who a person really is and reveals his moral purpose, exposing the kind of actions and policies he chooses and avoids. Put simply, a good character flows from good moral principles

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: background; certifigate; character; eligibility; obamafraud; obamalies; obfuscation; trust

1 posted on 04/27/2011 12:20:00 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Why does the author of this piece leave out the more
important question...Is Obama a NATURAL BORN citizen?


2 posted on 04/27/2011 12:26:18 AM PDT by AlexW (Proud eligibility skeptic)
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To: AlexW

I don’t know but that subject seems to elude most everybody, maybe because the Constitution doesn’t define it...or maybe because of the obviousness of Obama’s disqualification by virtue of having a non-citizen supposed father-—that has to make any observer scratch his head, “How could Obama get away with that?”

Or maybe they just enjoy jabbing Obama about something that clearly seems to annoy him. And the mystery factor-—what could be on those documents that he doesn’t want us to see?


3 posted on 04/27/2011 12:33:24 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: AlexW

Well, just as the problem with fire is that it will burn down a wood house, Obaba should be viewed in context of what he is doing for or against America.

A fair and objective analysis of Obaba would conclude he is an enemy agent sent as sort of a Trojan Horse to damage if not destroy America. Thus logically concluding he is an enemy of America.


4 posted on 04/27/2011 12:34:35 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (Obama, the most corrupt and incompetent President since Carter.)
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To: Scanian

I think at this point the going on the defensive on the part of the HI government and perhaps even some democrats in the House is now more to protect themselves from possible fraud and wrong doing more than it is to protect Obama.

I think if we knew what really happened, more than Obama would be in trouble.


5 posted on 04/27/2011 12:39:31 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: AlexW

I think the author was just focusing on one aspect of the issue. Trust.

At the very least there may be nothing wrong with Obama’s BC and his goal is to nullify the US Constitution by ignoring the eligibility requirement just as he did going to the UN and ignoring US Congress before going to war with Libya.

That’s just one possibility. I suspect (like many) there’s much more to the BC than that though.


6 posted on 04/27/2011 12:43:35 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Scanian

I just want him to be FORCED by whatever means to come clean.

I’m sick of his JOKES like he has forked over everything and we are just yapping ankle biters ...

At least The Donald has latched on to an Ass Cheek

TT


7 posted on 04/27/2011 12:50:34 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is real islam. Moderate islam is the trojan horse.)
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To: Scanian

Obama is an outlaw. BC? What BC? Obama don’t have to show you no stinking BC.


8 posted on 04/27/2011 12:53:55 AM PDT by Armaggedon
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To: TexasTransplant

And to think that HE is talking about immigration reform and possibly signing an executive order to make it happen. In reality he should recuse himself from the issue.


9 posted on 04/27/2011 12:56:48 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: TexasTransplant

The truth will come out but the harm this poser has done will take years to over come and in the end—many people may lose their lives. He will change the nation—he has all ready—into something less than it was. His arrogance and the help of the MSM have kept him in power and will do so for the next six years. After a study of how things are going—I believe the fix is in and Obama will be re-elected. Who ever the GOP selects will be made into one of three things: A) a joke, B) a tottering old fool or C) a racist religious nut job. Be ready to see a 3rd world USA. Word of advice to all: Start taking lessons in how to speak Chinese.


10 posted on 04/27/2011 12:58:51 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Scanian

I already know enough about his character. Let’s see the BC and other documentation so we can see to what extent the American people have been duped.


11 posted on 04/27/2011 1:02:27 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: tsowellfan

The Tim Adams former state worker interview says the long form doesn’t exist and his former co-workers and boss are lying.

I’m still in the “he was born there but is hiding something on the BC” school with people like Hannity.

Appreciate Trump though going to the extreme. Someone needs to be out there pushing it far so the ‘reasonable people’ can occupy middle territory.

Line tonight from the White House per CNN was: “If we show it they’ll just move the goalposts and want something else or say it’s a forgery. Those who don’t believe he was born here will never be convinced.”

That’d be a decent response if it were like the 422 people who say we never landed on the moon. Or the 5-10% of Democrats who believed George Bush blew up the levees.

Ignoring 62% of the country? That’s a “fringe element”?

The calculation is Obama suffers less political damage with the questions, lawsuits, news reports, birther research continuing than if he were to just show the damn thing.

Honestly I’d like to see it and move on. Even the CNN hosts are getting to the “just show the birth certificate so we can cover something else” point.


12 posted on 04/27/2011 1:30:03 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Scanian; AlexW

they are trying to make the only issue to be about the location of his birth. this is an attempt to get people ready to move on... when the birth location has been verified.

we must insist those in the media stay honest (good luck) and explain how the birth location is one of the two issues required to prove eligibility.

the second being... what citizenship(s) did each parent hold at the time of his birth.

if they weren’t BOTH American citizens, then 0bama cannot be a natural born citizen


13 posted on 04/27/2011 1:31:27 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

***** “ Word of advice to all: Start taking lessons in how to speak Chinese “ *****

You don’t know me very well and I don’t speak for all ...

I will probably be one of those that loses their life because I have already told the Gubermint that I am not playing ... no 0care, no Insurance, no fines , no 1099’s no nothing ...

Come Take It

I have already drawn my line and I will not budge


14 posted on 04/27/2011 1:35:28 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is real islam. Moderate islam is the trojan horse.)
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To: Scanian

The question isn’t really where was he born. The question is; why is he hiding his LFBC?


15 posted on 04/27/2011 1:45:10 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigerClaws
I’m still in the “he was born there but is hiding something on the BC” school with people like Hannity.

Me too. BUT if it's proven that it's really "missing" and not in HI it will be then that I will strongly believe that his original longform is sitting in a hospital in some other nation.

Up to now I still suspect he's just hiding something in the BC.

16 posted on 04/27/2011 1:46:47 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Scanian

I told my wife last night that this is really a tip of the iceberg. More importantly, where is all of his historical papers? We know more about Sarah Palin and where she attended college then we know about Obama. How did he manage to go to Harvard, then Columbia when his folks didn’t have any money? What was his grade point average and what did he write his term papers on?

Very little is known about Obama and the media for some reason has more interest in knowing about a Republican Vice Presidential candidate then they do about the Democratic President.

I will also add that it doesn’t help for Republican journalists to say it doesn’t matter.


17 posted on 04/27/2011 2:42:06 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Scanian
This is what has been bothering me about Glenn Beck.

He is covering Obama's policies and how they are hurting America.
Foreign policies that are helping Islam and Muslim Brother Hood, are Anti-Israel and destabilizing the Middle East.

Fiscal and Energy Policies that are draining our wallets an crippling the country.

Yet insists there are more important issues than vetting Obama's background.

18 posted on 04/27/2011 2:50:22 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

What about Auntie and Grandma back in Kenya who say they are EYEWITNESSES to Ob’s actual BIRTH???

WHAT ARE THEY—CHOPPED LIVER???


19 posted on 04/27/2011 3:07:51 AM PDT by Flintlock
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To: opentalk

Because he’s SCARED of his employers, Fox and Clear Channel.

They don’t care for the subject so he has to be the good little corporate worm and go right along with them.


20 posted on 04/27/2011 3:36:41 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: tsowellfan

I’d love to see Pelosi and DNC Chairman Howard Dean prosecuted for what they surely knowingly did.

In our dreams, right?


21 posted on 04/27/2011 3:40:01 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

When it comes to the “birthplace/BC mistery”, I haven’t been able to shake the lyrics from a hippie/com song from my mind ever since I first saw the controvery back before he got elected. It comes from “Blows Against the Empire”, and shows the mindset of the hippie/coms:

What you gonna do when Uncle Samuel comes around
Askin’ for the young one’s name
And lookin’ for the print of his hand for the files in their numbers game
I don’t want his chance for freedom to ever be that slim
Let’s not tell ‘em about him —

I can’t shake the feeling that hippie/com Ann Dunham thought that way, and that there was no BC, and there is no telling just where she popped that booger out...


22 posted on 04/27/2011 3:55:19 AM PDT by LRS ("This is silly! It can't be! It can't be!!" "Oh yes it is! I said you wouldn't know the joint.")
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To: Scanian

The lengths Obama has gone to conceal not only his birth certificate, but school records, law license data and even records from the time he was in the Illinois legislature was done for a reason. Obviously there are things in his past that would be devastating if released.


23 posted on 04/27/2011 3:57:19 AM PDT by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: Scanian
The real issue is whether or not the constitution will be the basis for government in this nation. The failure of BO and his cronies to disclose the truth only proves they disregard the constitution for the sake of power. Perhaps the only thing that would force out the truth is another civil war. Until then, all those with eyes clearly see “the emperor has no clothes” but only those with an honest heart will admit it.
24 posted on 04/27/2011 4:01:00 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: Scanian

So much for transparency.


25 posted on 04/27/2011 4:20:06 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Scanian
This is about far more than a birth certificate.

This man has been ERASED...

as in the movie, Eraser.

His entire past does not exist.

He is living in the Witness Protection Program.

Where are his school records? Where are the passports he has used? Why does nobody remember the man going to Columbia University?

The sitting president of the United States is a falsely created person...deliberately re-manufactured out of whole cloth.

This man carries a false identity. He is not at all who he says he is.

He is a hoax. He is the greatest fraud ever perpetrated upon the American people.

The man's entire life is a lie. His books are a lie...not written by him.

26 posted on 04/27/2011 4:32:15 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority (What this country needs is an enema.)
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

Obama as president was planned long before this decade. He is the one picked to lead by a circle of people that planned this for a very long time. The media assisted and the voters dumbed down. Will anyone care? Not a shot was fired but the damage enormous.


27 posted on 04/27/2011 4:35:37 AM PDT by oldironsides
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To: TigerClaws
Line tonight from the White House per CNN was: “If we show it they’ll just move the goalposts and want something else or say it’s a forgery. Those who don’t believe he was born here will never be convinced.”

100% BS from the White House! If they really thought that the opposition would move the goalposts, they'd be grateful for the chance to demonstrate the suggested intellectual dishonesty or hypocrisy of such people. Nothing delights libs like hypocrisy on the part of their enemies (ie, conservatives, Americans -- and adults). Moreover they could tag such a response as racism: "You see? It was never about the BC. Hypocrites! It's just vicious American racism!"

If they were truly being handed an opportunity to expose the dishonesty of his detractors, 0bama and his team would be thrilled to play the card.

Meanwhile, they let Lt. Col. Terry Lakin go to prison rather than show the damn paperwork.

28 posted on 04/27/2011 4:42:59 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Bad posters drive out good; don't post and drive!)
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To: Scanian
(” Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, said twice that she has personally seen and reviewed Obama’s original birth certificate.”)...from the article
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Fukino was careful to use the words “vital records”.

29 posted on 04/27/2011 5:05:50 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Scanian

I just realized I can visit the birthplace of every president, except the current one.


30 posted on 04/27/2011 5:10:12 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: Scanian

LOL. Sort of a real world “Where’s Waldo”...


31 posted on 04/27/2011 5:20:56 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Scanian

His birth place is irrelevant. By his own admission his father was a Kenyan African of Arabic/Muslim descent who bestowed upon him at birth dual-citizenship.

The only use to anybody right now of the birth certificate is to confirm Obamajad, Sr. was actually his father and listed as such on it.

If he releases the birth certificate and confirms it, he’s outta there! No ifs, ands, or buts about it. He can never be anything but a native born citizen. Which he admits himself on his own website record. And which his lawyers have obviously confirmed for him. AND of course there is the issue of his Indonesian citizenship and use of his passport from that country.

He has never presented to anybody otherwise. The ONLY person that has presented otherwise on ONE document is Nancy Pelosi when she sent documentation to Hawaii confirming that he was the candidate nominated by the DNC for the 2008 election which stated he was qualified under the US Constitution to be so.

If you will remember, the Hawaii democratic party leaders did not accept the first certification she sent which left off the language certifying his Constitutional qualification, thus she remedied it there. The democratic party leaders in all 49 other states just ignored it and passed it on anyway, if they ever saw it.

If push ever gets to shove, that will be Obamajad’s defense.
Nancy Pelosi a criminal, and made democratic party leaders all over the US criminals. If push ever gets to shove, the whole party goes down, hook, line, and sinker. And perhaps also all of those other “Senators” in both parties who threw down a vote to confirm his eligibility and the electoral votes. Yes, by their negligence ALL of those Senators are complicit. Which could bring both parties down.

Thus congress just smirks and calls this issue a distraction and irrelevant.

The only other scenario possible is that when Obamajad “amended” his birth “record”, he submitted proof to Hawaii that in fact Obamajad, Sr. was not his father and a natural born American was. Thus his claim to ‘family embarrassment’ if the birth record is revealed. And of course makes him a bald-faced liar and con man.


32 posted on 04/27/2011 5:25:41 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: Scanian
The so-called "Supreme" Court are a bunch of cowards. I'm sure each and every member is fully aware of the controversy about 0bama and the fact that his eligibility for the office holds is highly questionable. They do not want to face the issue for fear of the backlash from the blacks, when he is shown to be ineligible and a usurper. They are merely ignoring the issue in hopes that it will go away.

Ask yourselves if they would hesitate if 0bama were white? Somewhere along the line This Country has gotten far off track with political correctness run amok. So far off track that we are to the point that there is no longer equal justice, but the minority is now ruling, and dictating to, the majority. For the sake of political correctness, we are committing national suicide.

33 posted on 04/27/2011 5:26:33 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Scanian

The real issue is Obama is still being held above the law.

Its the fear of removing him, in effect holding America hostage.

What will be the next election about? Vote for person XX or else we detonate nukes at all the pet stores in America?

That is whats happening right now, nobody dares to physically remove Obama because they think America will erupt in a nationwide race war.

Obama is an abscess, if it isn’t lanced and cleansed it will become a permanent cyst upon America.

There is no 44th president, America has no legally elected POTUS. Its been a show of smoke and mirrors.


34 posted on 04/27/2011 5:58:50 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Communism is a diease, a global failure and endorses Barack Hussein Obama.)
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To: wintertime

I never heard her use anything but weasel words...how about you?


35 posted on 04/27/2011 6:09:40 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

I vote KGB.

The Russians would have shot themselves out of a cannon to find somebody with Hussein’s family background (communist) during the Cold War.

I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that the whole Dunham clan were agents.


36 posted on 04/27/2011 6:12:14 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: LRS

Ever watch “Dog the Bounty Hunter?”

Ever see some of those Hawaiian slum/villages he goes into to chase bail jumpers?

I can easily see Matress Annie hanging out in one of them and giving birth with some island midwife. No fuss, no muss, no paperwork.


37 posted on 04/27/2011 6:16:46 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian
The ONLY undisputed document from Obama's youth:
ML/NJ
38 posted on 04/27/2011 6:20:04 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: RowdyFFC
if you will remember, the Hawaii democratic party leaders did not accept the first certification she sent which left off the language certifying his Constitutional qualification, thus she remedied it there. The democratic party leaders in all 49 other states just ignored it and passed it on anyway, if they ever saw it.

Yeah Nixon went down due to a missing 7 minute audio tape gap.

Obambi gets his over a missing letter r

Since Pelosi generated two sets of documents certifying his Constitutional qualification.

Both sets had the same typo....spelling the word "through" as "though" at the end of the second line of text.

39 posted on 04/27/2011 6:42:40 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obamas approval ratings are so low, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the USA.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
The so-called “Supreme” Court are a bunch of cowards. I'm sure each and every member is fully aware of the controversy about 0bama and the fact that his eligibility for the office holds is highly questionable. They do not want to face the issue for fear of the backlash from the blacks, when he is shown to be ineligible and a usurper. They are merely ignoring the issue in hopes that it will go away.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And.....So are our highest military leadership. They too are cowards regarding this domestic fraud in the chain of command.

When did ignoring possible fraud, lying, and deceit become part of the military code of honor? When did turning a blind eye to likely usurpation of the position of Commander in Chief become the defining way to uphold one’s oath made before God?

If these highest officers had any gonads at all they would have LONG AGO peacefully, lawfully, and legally demanded that Obama prove with certifiable evidence that he is a legitimate Commander in Chief. They would have lawfully, legally, and peacefully sought the counsel of congress and the Supreme Court. If Obama continued to refused they should have had a very PUBLIC press conference and resigned their commissions. And..Then the next level of military officers should have stood behind them and been fully prepared to do the same clear down to 2nd lieutenants.

There are really 4 balances of power. The 4th is our military officers’ oath to defend the Constitution against domestic enemies. When faced with a corrupt congress, beguiled voters, courts unwilling to move, and a fraudulent president, they are the last line to be breached before the Second Amendment.

I fear that if true and unshakable tyranny comes to our nation, that our highest military officers will grovel on their knees and lick the jack boots crushing our necks. They may be willing to fall on a grenade for their troops in a battle against a foreign enemy, but faced with a likely usurper they will do NOTHING that might jeopardize their pensions and perks.

40 posted on 04/27/2011 6:57:01 AM PDT by wintertime
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