Skip to comments.CNN via BREAKING on Drudge: White House releases Obama birth certificate
Posted on 04/27/2011 6:09:26 AM PDT by DCBryan1Edited on 04/27/2011 6:22:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
(CNN) The White House released President Obamas original birth certificate Wednesday.
The surprise release follows recent and sustained remarks by businessman Donald Trump, among others, that raised doubts as to whether the president was born in the United States.
Has anyone researched this “David A. Sinclair” that was the attending physician? Thats not the same person that everyone was postulating delivered Obama. Is he a “real” doctor?? And did he practice at that hospital?? Is he possibly still alive??
I am a dirty rotten POS for not citing the author of that data. I didn’t write it.
Every bit of that was from Leo Donofrio.
Jefferson born 1743 and Jackson born in 1767 are both covered by the “grandfather clause”.
Those parents of Buchanan, Arthur, Wilson and Hoover were all known or believed to be US citizens at the time the future Presidents were born. Arthur’s father may not have been naturalized at Arthur’s birth, and there is an appearance of an attempt to cover up that fact by Arthur.
The Judge, Horace Gray, who made the questionable assertions as to NBC in Wong Kim Ark was appointed in 1881 by Arthur.
Look, I was born in North Carolina in 1964, and my birth certificate was hand written (not typed). It differs from state to state.
I'm looking at this PDF.
1. It's obviously a composite of two separate images . . . the stuff from the book, and a background that was made to match the background from the book. So right off the bat it's weird.
2. The text in caps looks like it was cut & pasted into this doc, not added in as vector fonts, because there's a whitish shroud around each letter. If this was the actual text typed into the paper, you'd see it in stark contrast to the background.
3. If this was copied out of a book, as the image would have you believe, I think there'd be more of a "wave" across the breadth of the page, like when you make a scan or a copy of a page from a book.
Granted, I'm looking at this on the web and not looking at an actual physical copy of it, but this sucker looks a bit questionable to me.
Perhaps I can check it out.
Because BO's was issued Monday. Of this week. Look at the Registrar's date stamp at the bottom.
Really? Can you provide proof?
Alexander Hamilton’s proposal said: “No person shall be eligible to the office of President of the United States unless he be now a Citizen of one of the States, or hereafter be born a Citizen of the United States”
Lynch v. Clarke clearly gives “natural born citizen” status to all people who have citizenship at birth, and that decision has widely been quoted by SCOTUS.
No it isn’t the same. It lists the hospital and the attendant at birth.
Show me a link to the law established by SCOTUS that defines a ‘natural born citizen’ to be a child born of only ONE citizen parent, as it applies to eligibility for the office of President.
And if you side Dred Scott v Sandford, that decision only applies to anyone born within the U.S. as being defined as a ‘native’ born citizen. That doesn’t make them eligible to be President.
Same applies for United States vs Wong Kim Ark.
So show me the link that says any person born in the U.S. is eligible to be President.
You gotta give Trump credit. He forced Obama’s hand. He got results. Thanks to the other cowards in the Republican party, Obama has had two years to make this forgery bulletproof.
Maybe now we can get to the real issue of the father not being American.
This Birth Certificate business has been an intentional distraction.
Not what the federal regs. say:
Just google Nordyke birth certificate Hawaii under images and you will get plenty of links. The Nordyke twins’ BCs have been available for more than two years.
Because it was released as an ADOBE PDF file. PDF = Portable Document Format.
“You are aware of their divorce papers, arent you?”
Can’t say that I am - but WHEN did they (supposedly) get married, and is there documentation of it?
Mine says Certificate of Live Birth also. What does yours say?
With this finally out, will the obstructionist Democrats admit eligibility bills are not about Obama and let them pass so jerks like Obama can't play games and this nonsense doesn't bother us ever again with a future candidate?
Why is the O in Oahu floating like a balloon above the line, but not in OBAMA?I'm not making any judgments about the veracity of this document, but the vertical shifting of upper-case letters is entirely typical of typewritten documents.
On most typewriters, each upper- and lower-case letter is on the same stem. To type an upper-case letter, the entire mechanism shifts up. If the typist presses the key before the mechanism has fully moved, you get an upper-case letter that is vertically shifted.
It’s not a negative like the twins??? It isn’t original.
2. The text in caps looks like it was cut & pasted into this doc, not added in as vector fonts, because there's a whitish shroud around each letter.Open the doc in a PDF editor (there are freeware versions out there).
That pattern is a water mark; the algorithm avoids 'printing through' the actual letters.
To be a “Natural Born” citizen of the United States requires that one be born in the United States of parents (plural) who are themselves citizens of the United States.
The fourteenth amendment does not address “natural born” citizenship at all and thus does not affect the Constitutional requirement that one be a Natural Born citizen of the United States in order to hold the office of President of the United States at all!
Barrack Hussein Obama II knows all of this and there lies the answer to your other questions.
This might actually be a fake, open up the PDF and you’ll immediately see white haloing around the text, a scanned document shouldn’t look that way because the ink would a) be placed atop the security-background paper, and b) the bleeding of the ink likely would have a blending effect where the ink’s edge is. (There weren’t multi-hundred DPI inkjet printers back then.)
Can’t make out the attendants signature clearly.
It looks like David A. Smilan or something.
If this is legit, it proves that Obama's father was a foreign national and NOT a US Citizen.
The father has to be a US Citizen for a person to be a Natural Born Citizen. Clearly Kenya doesn't qualify.
Here is are the divorce papers. I don’t know when they were married.
If it shows anybody other than Soetero as his father, then it is a fake. When a child is adopted, birth certificates are changed to place the adoptive parents on the BC. We adopted our grandson, and I am now listed as his birth mother, my husband is his father, same date, same hospital same everything else. The old BC is now destroyed. Any future BCs will be listing me, I don’t care how hard you jump up and down. The only thing that might make you scratch your head in wonder is that I was 46 when he was born.
What do those pencil notations indicate?
References to the other “ original vital records “ that on July 2009
Chiyome Fukino said Hawaii maintained on file ?
Today’s flop sweat exercise from Barry
raises even more questions.
Why now and not back when the first military member asked ?
Which IIRC was Major Stefan Cook .
What are the other “ vital records “ maintained on file ?
I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained
on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health ...”
Donald Trump was able to do what numerous court cases
have been unable to do.
I think this strengthens Trump and makes Barry look even weaker and desperate.
They hope doing this preempts calls for Barry to release all his other records.
I would guess David A. Sinclair
Looks like Sinclair to me.
I understand that. Is a COLB the same thing as a BC?
Have you ever gotten a copy of a long form birth certificate? I mean in the past 10 years or so? They photo copy (or perhaps print from a scanned image) the original record onto colored, tamper resistant, paper, not just white copier paper. There is nothing weird about it, it would be weird if they had done something else.
Why didn’t he just show the one he (supposedly) wrote about?
That looks like unsharp masking was applied to the image. If you look at the parts of the image which are less sharp to begin with, especially the document number 61 10641, you'll see less of an artifact. Many digital cameras and scanners do this type of sharpening automatically unless you turn it off.
Unlike the Certification of Live Birth released in 2008, I don't see a lot of JPEG artifacts like two dimensional "ringing" at sharp boundaries. They didn't do as much data compression on this image.
Here are my thoughts, ‘gut reaction’ using my ‘mom skills.’
He FINALLY had the Long Form??? (but it is still titled ‘Certification of Live Birth’) released. It was, per the stamp, done this Monday 4/25/11. Then he calls a quickie Podium Talk (no questions per the usual Regime MO) and he speaks about the ‘topic’ for the first few seconds...then goes off into some weird campaign spin whine mode, then goes back to the BC for a few words.
Why wouldn’t he use the time to say ‘my parents were young; my mom was preparing to go to college, daddy BHO was in college; my parents were poor; we lived at...this address; okay...this is the Hospital I was born at; this is the Doctor who delivered me...this is...’
Sorry...but to me, this is fanning the story more...not putting it to rest. Dunham/Soetaro/Obama just VALIDATED there are still questions.
Yes, a COLB is a BC. Same thing.
“WHY did he prolong this for 2 years?”
It certainly doesn’t take that long to buy a forged one. He prolonged it because 1) he doesnt need to explain himself to us lowly peons, 2) he was holding out for 2012 and was going to use this to undercut the GOP candidate.
I still want to know why BHO Sr.’s race is listed as “African”. If put in there in 1961, I wouldn’t think that that is a term that would be used (”negro” or something similar would be more likely). If put in there recently, then why not “African-American” (yes, I know he was never American, but that’s the PC way)?
Some hospitals give a ‘suitable-for-framing’ diploma type birth certificate to the proud parents, and an ‘official’ birth certificate form for the state records.
It doesn’t seem to be much in the overall scheme of things, but perhaps that’s what he wanted to hide. The father didn’t acknowledge him, wasn’t there to sign.
Who is the father of......Larry Sinclair. Mwuahahahaha....
That is not true. My husband (who is adopted) had a COLB that stated his adoptive parents as Mother and Father. However, the original Long form BC, which we were able to get released by the court, stated the names of his natural mother and father. They seal the original but they do not destroy it.
YOu know all that - and I know all that... but Joe & Darlene Six-pack in Trailerpark USA don’t. And there are a lot of them. And that is a problem.
you can’t stand to listn to who
” I dont know when they were married. “
Neither does Barry.
Dreams From My Father , page 22
” In fact , how and when the marriage occurred , remains a bit murky ,
a bill of particulars that I’ve never quite had the courage to explore.
There’s no record of a real wedding...”
he wrote in his book that he found his original in his bible so why the need to get a dif one from hawaii. this is just a copy of something
“Finally! This whole nonsense has come to an end!”
You seem disappointed. Why? Birthers scored a big victory today. And it ain’t over.