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CNN via BREAKING on Drudge: White House releases Obama birth certificate
CNN ^ | 27 APR 11 | DCBryan1

Posted on 04/27/2011 6:09:26 AM PDT by DCBryan1

Edited on 04/27/2011 6:22:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

(CNN) The White House released President Obama’s original birth certificate Wednesday.

The surprise release follows recent and sustained remarks by businessman Donald Trump, among others, that raised doubts as to whether the president was born in the United States.


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To: Khepri

Absolutely...amazes me how so many useful idiots don’t know this simple requirement! Thanks for stating it so powerfully!


701 posted on 04/27/2011 9:09:21 AM PDT by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: Fantasywriter

Somewhere the ad should show Lakin in tears at his trial and Obama saying “I’m amused”


702 posted on 04/27/2011 9:09:32 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Mimi3
The angle between 6 and 1 in blocks 20 and 22 appears slightly different. Or is it just me? If it is different then how could it happen on a stamp?

Exactly. Here's an illustration I made to highlight what you're saying:


703 posted on 04/27/2011 9:09:49 AM PDT by library user (Just because you're homeless doesn't mean you're lazy.)
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Here’s what’s weird. IF they scanned in the original and then printed it on the security paper and stopped there, there would be no white around the text. Most printers don’t have white ink. Any white in the original would simply show up as the green/yellow background on the paper. They must have digitally added the white later to make it more legible. I believe this is legit, but they aren’t doing themselves any favors by digitally altering the document (even if just to make it more legible).


704 posted on 04/27/2011 9:09:51 AM PDT by freakboy
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To: Fawn
It says it’s a copy or abstract

Exactly! ..that's what I've been posting on the other threads.

705 posted on 04/27/2011 9:10:10 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: NoGrayZone
All I see is a difference in depth, the fonts are identical. Serifs match up. I don't know why I wasted my time on this but here's an animated gif comparing the two:
706 posted on 04/27/2011 9:10:10 AM PDT by Adammon
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To: Responsibility2nd

Good thing Trump isn’t in the military. Guess he’d be locked up too.


707 posted on 04/27/2011 9:10:36 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Responsibility2nd; WinOne4TheGipper
I knew there were Obama trolls on this forum, but you take the cake.

Why don’t you just tell us where you’ll move the goal posts to now?

A purge on FR cause conservatives know their own. There is something about stupidity libs can't hide. Making a list, checking it twice.......
708 posted on 04/27/2011 9:10:40 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: mel

I stood up for a good Freeper who was unfairly and jerkishly maligned. How is that childish???

[PS: A truly great Freeper similarly stood up for me the other day. It meant the world to me. Why are you putting down good Freepers who are pushing back against the Obama defenders? Should they be allowed to malign us at will, and anything we say in defense be held against us? Sounds like the Palin attack. The MSM is allowed to sling all the mud they want, but if she responds, she’s “childish”.]


709 posted on 04/27/2011 9:10:40 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Curiosity was just fine until Birtherism was debunked after the release of the COLB. After that, it became a pathetic movement that was kept alive merely by fraudulent “experts” who attacked the legitimacy of what was clearly a legitimate document and cranks who thought there was something on the long form that would contradict the COLB.


710 posted on 04/27/2011 9:10:44 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Put Trump in charge! It worked great for the USFL!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sorry pal....it’s us 2 against you. WE “ONE”!!!

Muahahahahaha.


711 posted on 04/27/2011 9:10:49 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: hflynn

B.S.

This document is identical to the photograph of Danae’s original long-form birth certificate.


712 posted on 04/27/2011 9:11:07 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

You have a lot of catching up to do:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2114092/posts?page=186#186


713 posted on 04/27/2011 9:12:13 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Palladin

Or perhaps I’m just not an idiot.


714 posted on 04/27/2011 9:12:42 AM PDT by Adammon
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To: RabidBartender

That BC# is the big snag. They had to steal a number from somebody else to give him a BC#, and a little girl who was born on Aug 4, died Aug 5, and is in their 1960-64 birth and death index doesn’t show up as having any birth records when they queried her name for me.

IOW, she had a record under her name at one time but now it is under somebody else’s name.

Three guesses whose name is on that file now.

This issue is DEFINITELY not over.


715 posted on 04/27/2011 9:12:49 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: ScreamingFist

Look here: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=285921


716 posted on 04/27/2011 9:13:36 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: Boogieman; KarlInOhio; winstonwolf33

Fine. Now why is that old typewriter being used on the modern security paper with the green basketweave? Do they make transparencies and then print it on modern paper? If so, why is it in a bound volume? Do they do that with every bc?
Questions, questions! :)


717 posted on 04/27/2011 9:13:53 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Bad posters drive out good; don't post and drive!)
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To: Adammon

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

I don’t know how to do that fancy stuff, but here is the link showing the S in Stanley. Different from the one you animated.


718 posted on 04/27/2011 9:14:04 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: Adammon

#1: Agreed.

#2: I don’t know of any scanning software that randomly assigns colors to specific characters. That’s just wierd.

#3: Go look at the file in 400% enlargement, and tell me you think the “S” and the “TANLEY” came from the same source. Trust your eyes.

Regarding #4: The date is a stamp, the kind with rolling months, days and years. Nobody wrote anything. You can tell it is a stamp because it is fully aligned off-horizontal. But the “AUG 8, 196” looks is one color, and the “1” is a whole different color, resolution, background, etc.

#5: I’m no expert. I’m offering an avenue of investigation. Just me and my eyes (I’m a photographer, so I look at enlarged stuff all the time) tell me there was a cut and paste job, and not a very good one. When I go retouch a photo, I can handle each pixel if I want to. Someone cut-and-pasted whole letters here, in my non-expert opinion.


719 posted on 04/27/2011 9:15:00 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Trickle Up Poverty.)
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To: butterdezillion

Amen, Butter. Obama better pray this thing he released is a fake. If it’s real, a group of ‘swiftboaters’ will ***destroy*** him with just one commercial. Even among Malignant Narcissists, Obama’s actions stand out as arrogant beyond description and scarily sadistic. I’m starting to believe the people who predicted Obama wouldn’t run in 2012. All he has to see is the mock up of a single Lakin/Obama commercial, and if he’s smart he’ll hang up his spurs.


720 posted on 04/27/2011 9:15:07 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: butterdezillion
And there is no note of the 2006 amendment.

That's because it was another birther fantasy.

721 posted on 04/27/2011 9:15:22 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: BuckeyeTexan

“This document is identical to the photograph of Danae’s original long-form birth certificate.”

Assuming the photograph was taken honorably. I thought he’d actually show the document [oh well]. But maybe an actual photocopy would have the mathematical precision to be proof?


722 posted on 04/27/2011 9:15:36 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

This 2nd COLB says at the bottom is a True Copy or an ABSTRACT of the true record.


723 posted on 04/27/2011 9:15:51 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun; STARWISE; maggief; penelopesire; LucyT

Follow link....Who has photo shop on computer?


724 posted on 04/27/2011 9:16:57 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: NoGrayZone

That’s where I took those images from. We’re looking at the same document, zoomed into 300%.


725 posted on 04/27/2011 9:17:00 AM PDT by Adammon
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To: eraser2005

Wrong. It shows he’s “native” born. Period. End of story.


726 posted on 04/27/2011 9:17:22 AM PDT by Khepri (Change -- How's that working for yah?)
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To: Adammon

ONE THING that i would like to know is WHAT are these pencil marks that are on EACH COLB that has been shown here?? Even the sample from a DIFFERENT hawaiian hospital has the SAME weird pencil marks in the SAME places. A lot of lowercase a’s and the numbers 0, 1, 2 and 9 show up a lot. There must be another form that lies over the colb that makes these marks as it is filled out, or these marks come from the back of a colb that has been filled out and blead onto the front of one laid under it, OR they are marks made by some Hawaiian official that gets the BC’s and converts them to COLB’s... but the Handwriting on these phantom pencil marks all seem the same across different hospitals and years. They seem to line up with fill-in boxes that are not there. weird. those pencil marks are similar across the different COLB examples, but slightly different...


727 posted on 04/27/2011 9:17:22 AM PDT by WashStateGirl
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To: old and tired

I had a child with my first husband who is not a citizen. The BC came from the embassy and does
Not say my son is not a citizen.


728 posted on 04/27/2011 9:17:40 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Fantasywriter

I hate when threads get hijacked by people who start attacking each other. It is really a distraction.


729 posted on 04/27/2011 9:17:50 AM PDT by mel (o fFR monthly...Do You?????)
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To: DCBryan1
Eleanor Nordyke with her kids BCs Here.

The stuff on the bottom, signatures, etc, Not on Obama's document.

So, Now What?

730 posted on 04/27/2011 9:18:19 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Oh ok. You’re correct, it is on green security paper, thanks for the link.


731 posted on 04/27/2011 9:18:38 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: Adammon

Well then zoom it to 800%. Or just click on my link. Look at the S in Stanley, then scroll over and look at the S in Student.

They are CLEARLY different fonts.


732 posted on 04/27/2011 9:20:38 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: Uncle Miltie

Some scanners use OCR (Optical Character Recognition) to add a higher contrast to characters that it recognizes as a font. For fonts it doesn’t recognize, it can just scan them individually as pixels. I’m not sure if that’s what’s happened here, but I know having worked and scanned enough documents that letters sitting next to each other can come through looking quite differently.

It’s the same as the 10641 number at the top of the COLB. The final 1 appears quite different than the first 1 even though they all appear on the same line in the same format.


733 posted on 04/27/2011 9:20:44 AM PDT by Adammon
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To: TexasCajun

You lost me. What is your point?


734 posted on 04/27/2011 9:20:44 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. *4192*)
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To: smalltownslick

Before it was the British Colony of Kenya, Kenya was known as the East African Protectorate or British East Africa (to differentiate it from German East Africa, which included what later became known as Tanganyika and that later merged with the island of Zanzibar to form Tanzania). It would not surprise me for a woman from Kansas to list her Kenyan husband (who may not have been present when she gave the birth info—his signature is not in the long-form birth certificate) as being from “Kenya, East Africa,” particularly since Obama Sr. was born in some tribal village, not in a city, and writing just plain “Kenya” would look awkward.


735 posted on 04/27/2011 9:21:59 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: DCBryan1

This BC is obviously a fake. The signatures of the three wise men are missing.


736 posted on 04/27/2011 9:22:02 AM PDT by matt1234 (Union rank-and-file are now dem brownshirt rank-and-file.)
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To: mel

I wasn’t attacking anybody. I was defending a great Freeper who was himself attacked. But you never addressed the attacker. That’s pretty twisted. If you saw a person get hit in the face, and somebody stepped in to defend them, you’d let the person throwing the punch off the hook, and lecture/hector the other two.


737 posted on 04/27/2011 9:22:09 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I don’t get it. That thread makes my point that the father of Birtherism is a truther, Mr. Berg. Then the op repeats discredited claims that various people attested to a Kenyan birth. I’m not sure what I need to be caught up on.


738 posted on 04/27/2011 9:22:20 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Put Trump in charge! It worked great for the USFL!)
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To: hoosiermama

Thanks for the info. Rush opening with it now. This should be good...lol! Bottom line....I think so called birthers and non birthers can agree at least that it was wrong for Obama to wait so long and let an American hero go to prison!!

That is what I would like to see Trump hit him with next!


739 posted on 04/27/2011 9:23:08 AM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: pbear8

“You may well be correct but why could Neil Abercrombie not find it?”

Theory - Abercrombie couldn’t find it because he could only find the one that said Soetoro, after the adoption. So technically he could say there was no Obama BC and be telling the truth. Obama can claim this is the one they sealed when the adoptive one was issued. Again, just a theory.


740 posted on 04/27/2011 9:23:31 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: NoGrayZone

Friend, truthfully, they are the same font. What you’re seeing zoomed in so far is the difference in how the scanner interpreted the text on the page.


741 posted on 04/27/2011 9:24:13 AM PDT by Adammon
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To: Khepri
Of course, this means that no matter where on earth Obama may have been born, he is not a natural born citizen and they all know this too.

Exactly. But the DU implants here don't know it because the mimic parrots are being played and too clueless to know it!
742 posted on 04/27/2011 9:24:19 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: mel; Fantasywriter

Then why are you distracting yourself with your own repeated attacks?


743 posted on 04/27/2011 9:24:48 AM PDT by Carling (Obama: Inexperienced and incompetent, yet ego maniacal. God help us all.)
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To: Pilsner

This paper has no border or seal on it. This is a photocopy, not a certified copy of a birth certificate.

Somebody posted a link to a photo of the document and there weren’t any cross-hatches on it at all, so those were apparently added in electronically to make it appear that this was an official birth certificate. It’s not. It’s a photocopy that could have been made in any city in the world from any piece of paper that had this particular image on it.


744 posted on 04/27/2011 9:24:48 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: hoosiermama; mike182d
Mike provides this for us: -Thanks Mike-

"Try the following: Save off a copy of the exact PDF file the White House has released as Obama's birth certificate this morning. Find yourself a copy of Adobe Illustrator (not Photoshop), and load up the PDF file in Illustrator. Then click on the center of the image of the birth certificate, then right-click on the center of the image, and click Release Clipping Mask. Have fun...

Maybe some freeper can tell us what this means?"

Certainly.

When you open the PDF in Adobe Illustrator and release the clipping mask, several items are separate from the rest of the form, almost like a layer on top of the document. The items are:

1. Date Accepted by Local Reg.
2. Date Accepted by Reg. General
3. The date "APR 25 2011"
4. A "placeholder" for a square graphic above "Apr. 25, 2011"
5> The entire statement of certification and signature in the bottom right hand corner.

In fact, I can isolate those elements and move them anywhere on the document.

PDF conversion of a scanned document usually does not do this...or at least this with specific blocks of important items on a document

745 posted on 04/27/2011 9:24:48 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: FreeRepublic
Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children From Wikipedia, (before this gets scrubbed) ___________________________________________________________________________ The Neonatal Intensive Care Unit (NICU) at Kapiʻolani Medical Center A new mother holds her baby who was born 10 weeks premature at Kapiʻolani Medical CenterKapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children is part of Hawaii Pacific Health’s network of hospitals. It is located in Honolulu, Hawaii, within the residential inner city district of Makiki. Kapiʻolani Medical Center is Hawaii’s only children’s hospital with a team of physicians and nurses and specialized technology trained specifically to care for children, from infants to young adults. It is the state’s only 24-hour pediatric emergency room, pediatric intensive care unit and adolescent unit. The facility was originally founded by Queen Kapiʻolani as the Kapiʻolani Maternity Home in 1890 for which she held bazaars and luaus to raise $8,000 needed to start the Home. Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital opened in 1909 named for Emma Kauikeolani Napoleon Mahelona (1862–1931), the wife of Albert Spencer Wilcox (1844–1919).[1] In 1978, it merged with Kapiʻolani Maternity Home to become Kapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children.[2][3][4] ______________________________________________________________________________ So it should have still said Kapi’olani Maternity Home in 1961? Not “Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital” as is on form as presented today.
746 posted on 04/27/2011 9:24:55 AM PDT by Bankroller
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To: KarlInOhio
...click me...
747 posted on 04/27/2011 9:25:01 AM PDT by cyberaxe (....Uuuummpphhhh.....)
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To: Plummz

“Weren’t we told that the Lucas Smith document was a forgery because it said “Kenya” and there was no such place as Kenya in 1961?”

That’s what I was vaguely remembering. Couldn’t remember the exact details, but I knew there had been discussion of it here.


748 posted on 04/27/2011 9:25:23 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: Adammon

No, they are not. And why is Stanley S blurry and Student S not?


749 posted on 04/27/2011 9:25:49 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: EDINVA; angcat
"The bc doesn’t establish ‘natural born’ so long as “Kenya, East Africa” is on that doc as father’s birthplace, absent documentation of his having become a US citizen prior to 8/4/61. The bc has never been anything but a red herring.

Now, if this is let to stand, any anchor baby can walk into the Oval Office.

But, let’s see the academic transcripts and medical records."

Exactly! Just like Chestur Arthur. History does repeat itself.

Now to the actual Constitutional question.

How can someone born with foreign citizenship, inherited by birthright from their foreign father, possibly be considered a "natural born Citizen?"

750 posted on 04/27/2011 9:25:59 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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