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CNN via BREAKING on Drudge: White House releases Obama birth certificate
CNN ^ | 27 APR 11 | DCBryan1

Posted on 04/27/2011 6:09:26 AM PDT by DCBryan1

Edited on 04/27/2011 6:22:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: thouworm

What font is on the certificate?


1,001 posted on 04/27/2011 11:38:32 AM PDT by navysealdad (http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
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To: FW190; All

Could an experienced FReeper post the Nordyke’s mother and barrys mothers signature date side by side?

They look very very similar.


1,002 posted on 04/27/2011 11:38:40 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: LucyT

Could you ping someone who can do this?


1,003 posted on 04/27/2011 11:39:43 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: Mr Rogers

Interesting.


1,004 posted on 04/27/2011 11:39:43 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Game is not over, his father wasn’t a citizen. Its only over for those who can’t think for themselves.

If your way were true any enemy of the United States could impregnate an American woman, raise the child with anti-American philosophies, then run that child for POTUS when the time is right for destruction from within.

Now braindead Obama worshippers may think this is the intent of ‘natural born’ but people with brains know this is not what the founders intended.

Natural born = TWO citizen parents and has always meant that. Our founders weren’t as stupid as Obama worshippers are.


1,005 posted on 04/27/2011 11:40:13 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Tatze

Okay....I can buy that. I’ll now consign myself to reinvigorating myself to highlight failings of record during his presidency - there are plenty of them.


1,006 posted on 04/27/2011 11:40:36 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: TennesseeGirl

“Seriously, folks, WHY is Honolulu’s Local Registrar U-something-Lee (almost looks like Ukelelee) on Aug 4, 1961 for Obama’s certificate, but a different name on the Nordyke twins BC (Aug 11, 1961)???? Did the Registrar change in 7 days?”


I noticed that, too. Maybe there was more than one Registrar; but its certainly worth investigating.


1,007 posted on 04/27/2011 11:41:45 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: KarlInOhio
...haha, great idea...

...wouldn't hold my breath though...lol

1,008 posted on 04/27/2011 11:41:50 AM PDT by cyberaxe (....Uuuummpphhhh.....)
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To: Pyro7480
Oh, for crying out loud, does that mean I’m not a “natural-born citizen,” as my Dad didn’t become a citizen until about a year AFTER I was born, even though I was born in the First State to ratify the Constitution and to a mother whose lineage goes back to some of the original Quaker settlers of the area?

Um, yeah. It does. You can never be President. I know it was a dream of yours.....oh wait. We don't enforce the Constitution...nevermind.
1,009 posted on 04/27/2011 11:43:31 AM PDT by Khepri (Change -- How's that working for yah?)
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To: piytar
Here is video evidence the document is layered/edited.

http://wireupdate.com/video/2011/04/president-obamas-birth-certificate-pdf-has-layers/

1,010 posted on 04/27/2011 11:43:46 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Grammy
BINGO...DING...Ding....ding....

If it shows anybody other than Soetero as his father, then it is a fake. When a child is adopted, birth certificates are changed to place the adoptive parents on the BC.

We have a winner.

1,011 posted on 04/27/2011 11:44:09 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obamas approval ratings are so low, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the USA.)
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To: BushMeister
Hey! I thought there was something wrong with my computer when I tried to import the .gov's PDF file into Photoshop. But now that I see what you got when you put it in Word, it's the same thing that Photoshop does to it when I import it! It's DEFINITELY a Layered image that has been cobbled together!

Now, why would only the signatures (and just a partial of Stanley Ann Dunham's) come up? It certainly looks as if someone took Obama's Birth Certificate and then cut&pasted it together!

Keeping in mind that PDF's are made Adobe's creation, here's what I get when I import it into Adobe's Photoshop program:



I've maintained for the last few years that Obama was probably born in Hawaii and is ineligible because of his dual citizenship and split allegiances, but this has FRAUD written all over it!

Now that I have seen this, I'm really starting to question his birth place!!!

Cheers
1,012 posted on 04/27/2011 11:44:26 AM PDT by DoctorBulldog (A lot of people probably just negated my comment while I was hunting and pecking at the keyboard!)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto
For the PDF illiterates out here, could you please translate your post? Are you saying it’s real or fake?

I have no special knowledge of the chain of custody of that document, but all the image and PDF stuff looks like some staffer in the White House stuck a document in the scanner, hit "Scan to PDF" and got a file to post. The scanner or computer split the file into multiple images to be able to run optical character recognition on it.

If I had to bet one way or another I would say that it is a real document. Many of the doubts I have seen here on things like random heights of capital letters and haloing around text look like false leads in my opinion.

1,013 posted on 04/27/2011 11:44:37 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: sam_paine
...dunno...

...just happen to do what I described back at post 524...

1,014 posted on 04/27/2011 11:45:12 AM PDT by cyberaxe (....Uuuummpphhhh.....)
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To: TennesseeGirl
Seriously, folks, WHY is Honolulu's Local Registrar U-something-Lee (almost looks like Ukelelee) on Aug 4, 1961 for Obama's certificate, but a different name on the Nordyke twins BC (Aug 11, 1961)???? Did the Registrar change in 7 days?

Do you know there was only one local registrar in that office? Perhaps there were two, or three.

1,015 posted on 04/27/2011 11:46:23 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: KarlInOhio

It’s a Forgery, Jim!

And for several of the reasons I hypothesized this morning on FR including:

The “S” in “STANLEY” is completely unrelated to the “TANLEY” part.


1,016 posted on 04/27/2011 11:46:34 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Trickle Up Poverty.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
It’s a Forgery, Jim! And for several of the reasons I hypothesized this morning on FR including: The “S” in “STANLEY” is completely unrelated to the “TANLEY” part.

Of course, because when they were created this forgery, they made the 'S' and the 'TANLEY' separately and pieced them together. Seriously?

1,017 posted on 04/27/2011 11:49:44 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

Here it is zoomed in 800%. Look at the S in Stanley, then scroll over to the right and look at the S in Student. 2 different fonts.


1,018 posted on 04/27/2011 11:50:24 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: Adammon; Fantasywriter; LucyT; melancholy

You have two pages of comments since 2006.

You claim you had a previous screen name and forgot password. What was your previous screen name?

ALmost all your posts (from my quick scan) are all - interesting.

FW - the obots are in screaming full force today.

Adammon - not saying you are one. Just - interesting, previous screen name (not said), practically no comments in several years but the ones that are there are heavily weighted towards after-birtherism.

Just - interesting.


1,019 posted on 04/27/2011 11:50:52 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: NoGrayZone; Nepeta; Plummz; Bikkuri; GregNH; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ColdOne; ...

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. . . . Not-A-Blue Ping

(with apologies to Slings and Arrows.)

To: FW190; All

Could an experienced FReeper post the Nordyke’s mother and barrys mothers signature date side by side?

They look very very similar.

1,002 posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:38:40 PM by NoGrayZone -(”Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.”)

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1,020 posted on 04/27/2011 11:51:20 AM PDT by LucyT ("Radical islam is real islam. "Moderate" islam is its trojan horse." - Travis McGee)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I didn’t try to open it. I copied the substance. The ledger lines, the signatures, some of the boxes with checks in them, and the last digit of the BC# show up fine.

I saved it as a PDF so I could post it to my blog and show you what I’m talking about. Unfortunately, Wordpress is not letting me post anything right now. Good grief.


1,021 posted on 04/27/2011 11:51:59 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: TexasCajun

Someone should take the asserted Certificate, abuse the layers, and make themselves the person born on that same document.

Just going to show how the original could have been forged.


1,022 posted on 04/27/2011 11:53:02 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Trickle Up Poverty.)
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To: spokeshave; Grammy

Why would he had been adopted in Hawaii? Wouldn’t he had been adopted in Indonesia? Why would Hawaii be aware of it at all?

For that matter, what evidence is there that he was actually adopted? Not all step-fathers adopt their step-children.


1,023 posted on 04/27/2011 11:53:32 AM PDT by Coyotehockey
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To: MichiganConservative

I am not so interested in this COLB form as a question of eligibility as I am about who is this guy? Where did he come from? What is his past. I think once you uncover the actual COLB you get a start on who he is.

We know nothing of him.


1,024 posted on 04/27/2011 11:53:48 AM PDT by rlferny
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To: little jeremiah

Hmmmmm, good catch there.


1,025 posted on 04/27/2011 11:54:16 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: tsowellfan
It’s time to talk about the economy.

I disagree. It's time to talk impeachment.
1,026 posted on 04/27/2011 11:56:39 AM PDT by Khepri (Change -- How's that working for yah?)
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To: DCBryan1
To sum it all up..... 0dumbo, you RAT bastard socialst commie pig-in-chief, you're still a LYING POS who doesn't deserve to be elected dog catcher, let alone POTUS! I think the commie pig bastard 0dumbo is lying and his corrupt handlers have simply had the last 2 years to put together another forgery. Also I recall the demoRAT Hawaiian governor recently admitting that he was not able to find 0dumbo's birth certificate. And yet after more than 2 years of controversy, all of a sudden 0dumbo releases another COLB form and calls a press conference to announce it? And Lt Colonel Larkin is sitting in prison in Leavenworth because he asked to see the birth certificate when given orders to go to Afghanistan?

My response to 0dumbo is still....FUBO you lying POS!

1,027 posted on 04/27/2011 11:57:19 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: thouworm; Nepeta; Plummz; Bikkuri; GregNH; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ColdOne; ...

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Not-A-Blue Ping

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thouworm to LucyT

CORRECTION to my original post. Post #849 below was the initial post on this thread regarding the layering.

To: All

Whoa. I was listening to Rush just now...and he was talking about an email he received from someone who said that this document is an obvious fraud...and here’s how you can check.

Download the PDF from above and open it in Adobe Illustrator, and you can see all the layers showing how the document was pieced together.

So... I did. I downloaded the file...and opened it in Illustrator...and indeed... this document has been pieced together. It’s a layered file. You can click and hide various layers until the screen is blank.

Now... look. I’m tired of this stupid argument. I really am. But as a graphic artist, I can tell you that if someone scanned in an image and saved it as a PDF, it would have been a solid, single layer. The only way that I know of for it to be broken down into layers is if it had been manipulated and created digitally.

Feel free to call me a whatever...but see for yourself if what that person Rush mentioned said is right.

849 posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 1:08:58 PM by PowerPro (Conservative Revolution Reborn! Palin/West 2012)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711155/posts?page=849#849
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See new aphid post #984 on this thread
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and related thread on layering I previously cross-posted by RED SOUTH

Obama’s Birth Certificate, Dissected
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711307/posts


1,028 posted on 04/27/2011 11:57:29 AM PDT by LucyT ("Radical islam is real islam. "Moderate" islam is its trojan horse." - Travis McGee)
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To: NoGrayZone

Due to the nature of my ping lists, I’ve run into a huge number of trolls over the years.

They have a subtle stink to them... and the posting history invariably tells the tale. An older signup date with few comments doesn’t always happen, but when it does, and the first page is all “debunking” any Zero document that shows he ain’t an NBC, there’s no guesswork involved!


1,029 posted on 04/27/2011 11:58:08 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Khepri; tsowellfan
It’s time to talk about the economy.

I disagree. It's time to talk impeachment.

Amen! We ALL KNOW the economy is in the tank and still sinking and WE ALL KNOW WHO IS TO BLAME.

Impeach, arrest and hang this emmer effer for treason!

1,030 posted on 04/27/2011 12:00:31 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: hoosiermama

Ah, so they’re claiming there is supplementary information? If the rest of this was really what they have in their files there would not need to be supplemental information. Supplemental information is needed for LATE and/or AMENDED birth certificates, and that last line on this form has to be filled out if it is late or amended.


1,031 posted on 04/27/2011 12:00:49 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Bingo. I wish I could give you a gold star.


1,032 posted on 04/27/2011 12:01:00 PM PDT by Adammon
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To: KarlInOhio

One other note on that, I would suspect that the default for all government scanners is to have OCR turned on for easier filing. Doesn’t always work with documents like this though :)

Of course, now if they release a TIF file with no compression, it’ll be a conspiracy that they released the ‘obvious forgery’ with a ‘better forgery’. No win once again.


1,033 posted on 04/27/2011 12:02:16 PM PDT by Adammon
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To: mojitojoe

You are being quoted over at Ace of Spades Headquarters.


1,034 posted on 04/27/2011 12:03:44 PM PDT by madamemayhem (defeat is not getting knocked down, it is not getting back up.)
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To: little jeremiah

That one has been trying to “explain” to me why I’m wrong regarding the different fonts in the Stanley name versus Student.

I’m not buying it.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf


1,035 posted on 04/27/2011 12:04:01 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone
Yeah I know what you mean. My It’s time to talk about the economy comment was directed at someone who claims that the release of Obama's BC today is somehow a "defeat" of the "birthers" when in reality it's a defeat for Karl Rove and those who claimed Obama released the BC long ago. Otherwise, it would not have been news today that he released it.
1,036 posted on 04/27/2011 12:04:30 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: madamemayhem

Ace of Spades... wow I have not been there in a long time. I’ll have to check it out!


1,037 posted on 04/27/2011 12:06:09 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Justa
Also, look at the Department of Health serial number in the top right corner, the “61 10641”. Blow it up to about 400%. Look at the green background lines, particularly the one inside the “zero”. The green lines are at an angle that matches the number. If the green lines are on the paper itself, why do they not line up with the green lines directly above the “61 10641”? Also, look at the horizontal green lines within the number, do they line up with the ones to the left and right of the number?
1,038 posted on 04/27/2011 12:06:36 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: America's last, best hope for survival.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Can anyone make sense of this bit in the PDF’s Document Properties?

PDF Producer: MAC OS X 10.6.7 Quartz PDFContext
PDF Version: 1.3 (Acrobat 4.x)


1,039 posted on 04/27/2011 12:10:32 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Trickle Up Poverty.)
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To: little jeremiah

The trolls and retreads are coming out of the woodwork. I’ve never seen anything like it. You have Freepmail.


1,040 posted on 04/27/2011 12:10:50 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Yes, that was my question. So copier with a green hashed paper would not produce the white around the letters, but digitizing that piece of paper would (more or less depending on how it was digitized). It seems very odd that we would not a high fidelity picture of the original if it were made by a copy machine with green hashed paper. Any $50 camera would produce an image without white around the letters.


1,041 posted on 04/27/2011 12:10:53 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Khepri

Read the conversation in posts #861, 868, 920, 930, and 946. In short, you’re wrong.


1,042 posted on 04/27/2011 12:11:56 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
Why can’t you see that you’ve been HAD? Or are you just parodying the lame Birther attacks? If you are, good job. If not, please seek help.

Dodge. I say again, why don't you care about the constitution?
1,043 posted on 04/27/2011 12:12:25 PM PDT by Khepri (Change -- How's that working for yah?)
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To: NurdlyPeon
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B7RBLw083OS5NjI4NGY2YTItZjMyOC00ODZjLThkY2EtNzlkZTc3NmNkZmE0&hl=en

There is the layered “BC”. Scroll down and you will see the 1 you speak of in the serial number. It seems if you zoom the “BC” to 800%, all the blurred typed numbers and letters are separate in the layers.

1,044 posted on 04/27/2011 12:12:51 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: butterdezillion

Here is the U.S. STANDARD CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH from the CDC. Everything down to Certifier is on Obama’s birth certificate. There are then two and a half pages of INFORMATION FOR ADMINISTRATIVE USE.

Every birth certificate is an abstract - there is a lot of information that is collected for health statistic reasons. No one’s birth certificate has ever shown all the information on the Certificate of Live Birth that the hospital filled out.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/birth11-03final-acc.pdf


1,045 posted on 04/27/2011 12:13:00 PM PDT by Coyotehockey
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To: All
From a comment at the smoking gun Here:

Submitted by HawaiiUScode on Wed, 2011-04-27 14:03. As per USC 48 Ch 3, S. 3 HAWAII (Hawaii Admission Act), Hawaii's statehood was not ratified and complete until September 18, 1961. Obama was born August 4, 1961. He is not a natural born US citizen.

First time I've seen that one. Anyone know about this? Will research. . .

1,046 posted on 04/27/2011 12:13:43 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: LucyT







1,047 posted on 04/27/2011 12:14:39 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
And that’s a load of baloney, because we’ve had other presidential candidates and even presidents with the same issue of a foreign born, even British fathers. The issue is irrelevant. Obama was born in the United States. He is a natural born citizen. Game over.

The issue you raise has been debunked a couple of times over IN THIS VERY THREAD!

Why don't you care about the constitution?
1,048 posted on 04/27/2011 12:14:51 PM PDT by Khepri (Change -- How's that working for yah?)
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To: KarlInOhio

What I find odd is that the WH released a pdf file instead of a jpg.


1,049 posted on 04/27/2011 12:17:47 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Nothing changes if nothing changes.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
"There were many, many stylistic changes made to the Constitution; not all changes were substantive."

Really? Even Alexander Hamilton, acknowledged the change of eligibility requirement for POTUS in Federalist #68, where he also acknowledges the national security reason for the requirement of natural born Citizen instead of his original draft of "born a Citizen":

"Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption. These most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one quarter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils. How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union?"

1,050 posted on 04/27/2011 12:20:08 PM PDT by Godebert
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