Skip to comments.CNN via BREAKING on Drudge: White House releases Obama birth certificate
Posted on 04/27/2011 6:09:26 AM PDT by DCBryan1Edited on 04/27/2011 6:22:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
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What font is on the certificate?
Could an experienced FReeper post the Nordyke’s mother and barrys mothers signature date side by side?
They look very very similar.
Could you ping someone who can do this?
Game is not over, his father wasn’t a citizen. Its only over for those who can’t think for themselves.
If your way were true any enemy of the United States could impregnate an American woman, raise the child with anti-American philosophies, then run that child for POTUS when the time is right for destruction from within.
Now braindead Obama worshippers may think this is the intent of ‘natural born’ but people with brains know this is not what the founders intended.
Natural born = TWO citizen parents and has always meant that. Our founders weren’t as stupid as Obama worshippers are.
Okay....I can buy that. I’ll now consign myself to reinvigorating myself to highlight failings of record during his presidency - there are plenty of them.
“Seriously, folks, WHY is Honolulu’s Local Registrar U-something-Lee (almost looks like Ukelelee) on Aug 4, 1961 for Obama’s certificate, but a different name on the Nordyke twins BC (Aug 11, 1961)???? Did the Registrar change in 7 days?”
...wouldn't hold my breath though...lol
If it shows anybody other than Soetero as his father, then it is a fake. When a child is adopted, birth certificates are changed to place the adoptive parents on the BC.
We have a winner.
I have no special knowledge of the chain of custody of that document, but all the image and PDF stuff looks like some staffer in the White House stuck a document in the scanner, hit "Scan to PDF" and got a file to post. The scanner or computer split the file into multiple images to be able to run optical character recognition on it.
If I had to bet one way or another I would say that it is a real document. Many of the doubts I have seen here on things like random heights of capital letters and haloing around text look like false leads in my opinion.
...just happen to do what I described back at post 524...
Do you know there was only one local registrar in that office? Perhaps there were two, or three.
It’s a Forgery, Jim!
And for several of the reasons I hypothesized this morning on FR including:
The “S” in “STANLEY” is completely unrelated to the “TANLEY” part.
Of course, because when they were created this forgery, they made the 'S' and the 'TANLEY' separately and pieced them together. Seriously?
Here it is zoomed in 800%. Look at the S in Stanley, then scroll over to the right and look at the S in Student. 2 different fonts.
You have two pages of comments since 2006.
You claim you had a previous screen name and forgot password. What was your previous screen name?
ALmost all your posts (from my quick scan) are all - interesting.
FW - the obots are in screaming full force today.
Adammon - not saying you are one. Just - interesting, previous screen name (not said), practically no comments in several years but the ones that are there are heavily weighted towards after-birtherism.
Just - interesting.
. . . . Not-A-Blue Ping
(with apologies to Slings and Arrows.)
To: FW190; All
Could an experienced FReeper post the Nordykes mother and barrys mothers signature date side by side?
They look very very similar.
1,002 posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:38:40 PM by NoGrayZone -(”Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.”)
I didn’t try to open it. I copied the substance. The ledger lines, the signatures, some of the boxes with checks in them, and the last digit of the BC# show up fine.
I saved it as a PDF so I could post it to my blog and show you what I’m talking about. Unfortunately, Wordpress is not letting me post anything right now. Good grief.
Someone should take the asserted Certificate, abuse the layers, and make themselves the person born on that same document.
Just going to show how the original could have been forged.
Why would he had been adopted in Hawaii? Wouldn’t he had been adopted in Indonesia? Why would Hawaii be aware of it at all?
For that matter, what evidence is there that he was actually adopted? Not all step-fathers adopt their step-children.
I am not so interested in this COLB form as a question of eligibility as I am about who is this guy? Where did he come from? What is his past. I think once you uncover the actual COLB you get a start on who he is.
We know nothing of him.
Hmmmmm, good catch there.
My response to 0dumbo is still....FUBO you lying POS!
thouworm to LucyT
CORRECTION to my original post. Post #849 below was the initial post on this thread regarding the layering.
Whoa. I was listening to Rush just now...and he was talking about an email he received from someone who said that this document is an obvious fraud...and heres how you can check.
Download the PDF from above and open it in Adobe Illustrator, and you can see all the layers showing how the document was pieced together.
So... I did. I downloaded the file...and opened it in Illustrator...and indeed... this document has been pieced together. Its a layered file. You can click and hide various layers until the screen is blank.
Now... look. Im tired of this stupid argument. I really am. But as a graphic artist, I can tell you that if someone scanned in an image and saved it as a PDF, it would have been a solid, single layer. The only way that I know of for it to be broken down into layers is if it had been manipulated and created digitally.
Feel free to call me a whatever...but see for yourself if what that person Rush mentioned said is right.
849 posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 1:08:58 PM by PowerPro (Conservative Revolution Reborn! Palin/West 2012)
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See new aphid post #984 on this thread
and related thread on layering I previously cross-posted by RED SOUTH
Obamas Birth Certificate, Dissected
Due to the nature of my ping lists, I’ve run into a huge number of trolls over the years.
They have a subtle stink to them... and the posting history invariably tells the tale. An older signup date with few comments doesn’t always happen, but when it does, and the first page is all “debunking” any Zero document that shows he ain’t an NBC, there’s no guesswork involved!
I disagree. It's time to talk impeachment.
Amen! We ALL KNOW the economy is in the tank and still sinking and WE ALL KNOW WHO IS TO BLAME.
Impeach, arrest and hang this emmer effer for treason!
Ah, so they’re claiming there is supplementary information? If the rest of this was really what they have in their files there would not need to be supplemental information. Supplemental information is needed for LATE and/or AMENDED birth certificates, and that last line on this form has to be filled out if it is late or amended.
Bingo. I wish I could give you a gold star.
One other note on that, I would suspect that the default for all government scanners is to have OCR turned on for easier filing. Doesn’t always work with documents like this though :)
Of course, now if they release a TIF file with no compression, it’ll be a conspiracy that they released the ‘obvious forgery’ with a ‘better forgery’. No win once again.
You are being quoted over at Ace of Spades Headquarters.
That one has been trying to “explain” to me why I’m wrong regarding the different fonts in the Stanley name versus Student.
I’m not buying it.
Ace of Spades... wow I have not been there in a long time. I’ll have to check it out!
Can anyone make sense of this bit in the PDF’s Document Properties?
PDF Producer: MAC OS X 10.6.7 Quartz PDFContext
PDF Version: 1.3 (Acrobat 4.x)
The trolls and retreads are coming out of the woodwork. I’ve never seen anything like it. You have Freepmail.
Yes, that was my question. So copier with a green hashed paper would not produce the white around the letters, but digitizing that piece of paper would (more or less depending on how it was digitized). It seems very odd that we would not a high fidelity picture of the original if it were made by a copy machine with green hashed paper. Any $50 camera would produce an image without white around the letters.
Read the conversation in posts #861, 868, 920, 930, and 946. In short, you’re wrong.
There is the layered “BC”. Scroll down and you will see the 1 you speak of in the serial number. It seems if you zoom the “BC” to 800%, all the blurred typed numbers and letters are separate in the layers.
Here is the U.S. STANDARD CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH from the CDC. Everything down to Certifier is on Obama’s birth certificate. There are then two and a half pages of INFORMATION FOR ADMINISTRATIVE USE.
Every birth certificate is an abstract - there is a lot of information that is collected for health statistic reasons. No one’s birth certificate has ever shown all the information on the Certificate of Live Birth that the hospital filled out.
Submitted by HawaiiUScode on Wed, 2011-04-27 14:03. As per USC 48 Ch 3, S. 3 HAWAII (Hawaii Admission Act), Hawaii's statehood was not ratified and complete until September 18, 1961. Obama was born August 4, 1961. He is not a natural born US citizen.
First time I've seen that one. Anyone know about this? Will research. . .
What I find odd is that the WH released a pdf file instead of a jpg.
Really? Even Alexander Hamilton, acknowledged the change of eligibility requirement for POTUS in Federalist #68, where he also acknowledges the national security reason for the requirement of natural born Citizen instead of his original draft of "born a Citizen":
"Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption. These most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one quarter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils. How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union?"