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White House Releases Full "Certificate of Live Birth" from Hawaii
WSJ ^ | 27 April 2011

Posted on 04/27/2011 6:13:01 AM PDT by Fractal Trader

Just a teaser..

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; eligibility; naturalborncitizen; obama; officialbcrelease
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To: deport

I will bet you $1000000 that some where on DU or Daily Kaos they are saying that BIRTHERS could be shown the video of Obama’s LIVE birth with a Hawaii Beach in the background and a MD saying we are in Hawaii and they still won’t believe it.

BUT I watched them when Trump released his FIRST cert say he was born in Jamaica and his mom is a Scot and it is not legal. THEN when Trump released the COLB they hushed.

So it is okay that the signatures look like they were doctored and no MD or seal is on what Obama released today.


51 posted on 04/27/2011 6:45:45 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (If Obama announced his resignation that would probably bring gas to $2.30 within an hour.)
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To: Fractal Trader
documents can be falsified...and I expect that the power of the POTUS has the available resources to make a damn good forgery.
52 posted on 04/27/2011 6:46:50 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Fractal Trader

It is there.


53 posted on 04/27/2011 6:46:52 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: plain talk
"So why did he spend millions preventing its release? And whose money was it?"

He didn't.

54 posted on 04/27/2011 6:50:02 AM PDT by mlo
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To: Diogenesis
"the font of the “A” on line 13 appears different from the "A" in the date on line 20."

This is normal. The name would have been entered with a typewriter, the date would have been stamped on later. On mine the date is clearly different from the names and other typed information.

55 posted on 04/27/2011 6:50:42 AM PDT by magellan
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To: pillut48

Okay ... what’s up with the odd page curl and the fact that this document was placed on that green background?


56 posted on 04/27/2011 6:51:36 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Diogenesis
This COULD explain the WHITE around the signatures at the bottom Daily Kaos did a crappy forgery this time.

The matter is settled, Chris Matthews is having multiple organisms. Nothing to see here move along.

57 posted on 04/27/2011 6:51:57 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (If Obama announced his resignation that would probably bring gas to $2.30 within an hour.)
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To: Fractal Trader

It may be put out there as a distraction, but most people can concentrate on more than one thing at a time.

There’s a lot about this that looks suspicious and I’ll leave it to the experts here to dissect it. I do think it’s strange that the Ks and Os don’t always match up as to placement.


58 posted on 04/27/2011 6:52:01 AM PDT by whatshotandwhatsnot (Islam wants you dead.)
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To: Fractal Trader

This is sad. People are claiming that the certificate release shows Obama is “rattled”. It shows that the birthers are a danger only to themselves.

Do you realize that the people who voted for Obama knew he was born to a Muslim father, that he had the middle name “Hussein”, that he was an admitted user of cocaine, that his mother was promiscuous (at best), that he had little or no experience in government, that he had no experience in the real world of free markets, etc...

There is an election in 2012. I hope by then the people who was their time and energy on this stuff will turn their focus to record gas prices caused by Obama’s federal regs, high inflation caused by Obama’s money printing policy, higher taxes and hidden taxes directed by Obama, high uemployement caused by Obama’s anti-business rhetoric and policies, and on and on.

You could discover that Obama was born to a space alien and he would not be removed from office prior to 2012. Your best bet is to inform people about what Obama is doing NOW to harm them.


59 posted on 04/27/2011 6:52:35 AM PDT by LibertyJihad
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To: Fractal Trader

Now can the birthers please shut the hell up and lets get about attacking this sorry sack of crap on his policies? Oh yeah and to “The Donald;” You’re done, shut up and go home.


60 posted on 04/27/2011 6:53:00 AM PDT by Grunthor (The man or woman who doesn't forgive has forgotten the price that Christ paid for them on the Cross.)
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To: Fractal Trader

Isn’t this the same COLB info we’ve seen before? Looks like it is bound in a ledger of some sort. What’s the deal with the pdf background matching the body of the cert? I thought these certs were supposed to be stamped with a raised seal and tri-folded for mailing. What is the actual origin of this pdf? I’m not pointing this stuff out to be abrasive - I just don’t see where this answers much. Guess I’ll wait for his holiness’s press conference to see why now?


61 posted on 04/27/2011 6:54:13 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Grunthor

Why so bitter?

Birthers WON! Obama LOST! Trump is the big winner today. He forced the liar in cheif to release “something”.

Sorry to dissapoint you. Birtherism IS NOT going away.

Bwa haa haaaa.


62 posted on 04/27/2011 6:55:30 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A Birther: One who has questions or concerns over the birth of Barry Barack Hussein Soetero Obama)
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To: Fractal Trader
This is all about PR now, the Whitehouse is getting out in front of something really bad...because they know the large majority of the people aren't going to hear the other shoe drop, only the furor between opposing camps...busy as they are figuring out how to afford a cup of coffee and their gas tank. This gives their many defenders something to fall back on. Something bad is coming for Obama, and this is the standard ploy to get in front of it, knowing how stupid and detached most Americans are.
63 posted on 04/27/2011 6:56:10 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Fractal Trader

Just curious, anyone see a raised stamp on it? mine has a raised stamp.


64 posted on 04/27/2011 6:56:34 AM PDT by Ballygrl
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To: al_c
"Okay ... what’s up with the odd page curl and the fact that this document was placed on that green background?"

This is a scan or microfiche of the file from a binder, hence the curl. It is printed on official document paper (like car registrations at the DMV, or a counter check at a bank), the same paper as the abbreviated COLB.

I have a couple of old copies of my long-form, and it is also a photostat from a binder (but in photo reverse), probably in microfiche form. The print out is also in photo reverse. If it was done in black on white rather than white on black, and printed on this kind of paper, it would look eerily similar.

65 posted on 04/27/2011 6:56:39 AM PDT by magellan
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To: All
via Twitter:

jaketapper Jake Tapper WH official: We know this release of long-form birth certificate might be bad politics but POTUS wanted to end distraction once+ for all 10 minutes ago
66 posted on 04/27/2011 6:58:36 AM PDT by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: Fractal Trader
So will all those who claimed “All he had to do was release the long form and this would all go away” actually shut up now, or will it be as I predicted long ago....

It will be deemed a fraud.

The argument will move on to the fact that his father was not an American citizen.

There is no way this “all goes away”.

And anyone who said so was either being disingenuous or foolish.

67 posted on 04/27/2011 6:59:13 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: eak3
Distraction? Anything else going on under the radar today???

Maybe the FIRST EVER news conference by the Fed Chaiman in 97 years? Hmmmm ....
68 posted on 04/27/2011 6:59:13 AM PDT by bfh333 ("Hope"... "Change"... You better HOPE you have some CHANGE after the next 4 years!)
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To: bossmechanic

OMG! I found it! If you go to a high quality color printer and print out the certificate you can clearly see! Hold it up to the light and right there under the NAME OF FATHER, you can make some sort of mark that says..........

YOU ALL ARE ACTING INSANE!


69 posted on 04/27/2011 6:59:36 AM PDT by LibertyJihad
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To: Ballygrl
"Just curious, anyone see a raised stamp on it? mine has a raised stamp."

My long form copies are a printout from microfiche on ordinary paper with a raised stamp. My short form is a computer print on official/certificate paper with a raised stamp. Both of these documents were printed over twenty-five years ago.

However, this appears to be a printout of a microfiche copy, and instead of a raised stamp has a machine stamp. The machine stamp looks exactly like the kind of stamp my university put on my official transcript.

70 posted on 04/27/2011 7:00:11 AM PDT by magellan
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

What’s with the background. The top left corner of the text area is rolled under, then there is more of the background (watermark).


71 posted on 04/27/2011 7:02:04 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My dream thread: Mormon cop shoots Catholic Freeper's Pit Bull and takes his Macbook Pro.)
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To: randita
If it was as easy as announcing a presser and showing the form, why didn’t he do it sooner?

The delay will be seen as an effort at a cover up.

They didn't learn much from Watergate, did they?

72 posted on 04/27/2011 7:02:21 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Fractal Trader

This is funny. The WH must be crapping their pants to roll this out now. They must really have some internal polling that makes them scared or they would have waited to do this. I think things are not a rosy as the MSM would have you believe for Obummer.


73 posted on 04/27/2011 7:02:33 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Fractal Trader
This is going to be a looooong thread,

First up.....I don't see and embossed seal.

74 posted on 04/27/2011 7:02:54 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obamas approval ratings are so low, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the USA.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Trump is the big winner today. He forced the liar in cheif to release “something”.”

It wasn’t “something” it was the long form birth certificate proving that he was all along what the sane in our society said he was. A natural born citizen. Now the only GOPr that polls even close to the d-bag in chief looks like a damned moron conspiracy theorist.

Why so bitter? I’m not bitter I’m pissed off that so many otherwise intelligent conservatives wasted YEARS, wrote books, blogs and otherwise attacking this POS on a NON-ISSUE! Think of all the energy wasted when it could have been used consrtuctively; not chasing this stupid windmill!

Anyone who would vote for the Trump clown should have their head examined. How could anyone who calls themself a fiscal conservative vote for a guy who has bankrupted three companies, including a Casino!!! HOW DOES ANYONE BANKRUPT A CASINO?? Doesn’t the house always win?


75 posted on 04/27/2011 7:02:54 AM PDT by Grunthor (The man or woman who doesn't forgive has forgotten the price that Christ paid for them on the Cross.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Birthers WON! Obama LOST! Trump is the big winner today. He forced the liar in cheif to release “something”.

WTF!?!?!!

Obama has been telling the truth the whole time, Farah and Trump have been perpetrating a hoax, and somehow you spin that into a win?

Wow!

76 posted on 04/27/2011 7:03:22 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Ballygrl

Don’t see a raised stamp but does have what I’d call an inked stamped name and date certifying what’s on file.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf


77 posted on 04/27/2011 7:03:32 AM PDT by deport
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

He spent all that money to hide THAT???


78 posted on 04/27/2011 7:04:03 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (President Obama's approval ratings are so low now, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the US)
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To: Fractal Trader

FAAAAAAKKKKKKKEEEEEE !!!!!

Grab the PDF off the Drudge Report

Zoom in to 300%. All the typing is surrounded by white space. All of the typing has white inside the letters.

This is cut and paste. Do they really think we are that stupid.


79 posted on 04/27/2011 7:04:49 AM PDT by UglyinLA
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To: jerseyrocks
Trump won this one big. Wondering why no doctor’s name on BC and the date of the COLB is April 25, 2011?

Trump did indeed win this one big and the reason why the date is April 25, 2011 is that the State registrar certifies the document is a true copy or abstract of the original record on file

Now I want to see his college records

80 posted on 04/27/2011 7:05:24 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: LibertyJihad
Obama has ran America into his proverbial ditch. If he was going to come clean why didn't he release his college passport records like every other nominee?

In the meantime don't you worry we are paying attention

_____________________________________________________________________ WHEREAS, in January 2009 Barack Hussein Obama AKA Barry Soetorp pledged to obey the oath of office as President of the United States pursuant to Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution of the United States; and

WHEREAS, President Obama has openly and repeatedly violated his oath of office in numerous ways including but not limited to:

A. Issuing executive Orders that usurp Congress’s exclusive power to make legislation as detailed in Article 1, Section 1, Sentence 1 of the Constitution of the United States

B. Using U.S. combat forces to make war upon foreign nations without the necessary Congressional Authority that can only be granted by a formal declaration of war

C. Collaborating with enemies of the United States, both foreign and Domestic, to destroy the sovereignty of the United States, destroy the monetary stability of the country and, contrary to Article VI of the Constitution, engage in a concerted plan of action to so weaken the United States so as to compel a merger with other authoritarian governments around the world under the leadership of the United Nations

THEREFORE, be it resolved that the Constitution Party calls upon all members of the U.S. House of Representatives, pursuant to Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution, to issue articles of impeachment against President Obama

LINK

LINK

81 posted on 04/27/2011 7:06:16 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (If Obama announced his resignation that would probably bring gas to $2.30 within an hour.)
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To: Fractal Trader

YES!!

Now, tell us, how can a man born under the British Nationality act of 1948 be a Narural Born Citizen if the United States?


82 posted on 04/27/2011 7:07:12 AM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Oh yes! Birthers look really smart today. It was like the day that Dan Rather was proven to be the idiot that he is. That was a great day for Dan Rather.

You are actually managing to make DU look even-keeled.

You are officially and forever linked with the people who think George Bush flew an SR-71 to Iran to negotiate with the Ayatollah in 1980 and the people who think George W. Bush did not fulfill his National Guard obligation, and the people who think that Dick Cheney wanted to invade Iraq to help Haliburton.

Keep up the good work and keep a lookout for the black helicopters.


83 posted on 04/27/2011 7:07:25 AM PDT by LibertyJihad
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To: Tex-Con-Man

“Obama has been telling the truth the whole time”

Wow! is right. You are a bigger liar than Obama. What he telling the truth then when he said all he had was the COLB?


84 posted on 04/27/2011 7:09:07 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A Birther: One who has questions or concerns over the birth of Barry Barack Hussein Soetero Obama)
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To: LibertyJihad

Trump forced WH hand on this.

The only thing that would make this funnier would be if Geraldo found it.


85 posted on 04/27/2011 7:09:52 AM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: Tex-Con-Man

I spent enough time arguing with the idiots/retards called “truthers” at a different site years ago. These people get so emotionally invested in being right that they frequently will toss aside fact, logic and reason and grasp firmly to conjecture, circumstance and rumor.

No longer are these folks to be paid attention to (on this issue). Not even enough to pity them. Their movement just took a shot through the heart. I expect the twitching to continue for a time but the soul itself was gone before the body hit the floor.


86 posted on 04/27/2011 7:10:30 AM PDT by Grunthor (The man or woman who doesn't forgive has forgotten the price that Christ paid for them on the Cross.)
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To: Diogenesis
"...the font of the “A” on line 13 appears different from the “A” in the date on line 20...."

Line 13 appears to be typed onto the document whereas line 20 is a rubber stamp date.

That could explain the differences in font.

87 posted on 04/27/2011 7:11:05 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: LibertyJihad

You seem to know a lot about DU. Spend a lot of time there, do ya?

Look. Birthers FORCED Obama into this, did they not?

I can’t believe the bitterness of you Obama-bots.

You’re truly sad.


88 posted on 04/27/2011 7:11:20 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A Birther: One who has questions or concerns over the birth of Barry Barack Hussein Soetero Obama)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

The Corsi Book? Did Obama go to Harvard financed by Saudi Arabia?


89 posted on 04/27/2011 7:11:49 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: UglyinLA
This is at 600% In my limited experience with photoshop, that sure looks like a lot of dithering around the signatures (note none on the typed part in upper left corner)--IME that is a dead giveaway that somehow the image has been manipulated...
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90 posted on 04/27/2011 7:12:25 AM PDT by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: Fractal Trader; onyx; penelopesire; maggief; hoosiermama; SE Mom; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; ...

HERE IT IS

Funny .. just last night ...... I was close .. ;)

And Trump's right! He's the ONLY one .. after ALL these years .. that got the O'Machine to reveal IT. That's a worthy badge, for certain.


91 posted on 04/27/2011 7:12:30 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
"...no MD or seal is on what Obama released today....."

The "attendant" is checked off as and MD. no...??

92 posted on 04/27/2011 7:13:07 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: randita

the headline is the story.

“birth certificate released”

that is all that matters.


93 posted on 04/27/2011 7:14:11 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Responsibility2nd

April 25 2011

They only got this copy two days ago?


94 posted on 04/27/2011 7:14:57 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Mr.Unique

That’s probably due to the fact it was printed from microfiche onto the new paper. I can’t think that HI, or any other state, would maintain a 50 year old hard copy.


95 posted on 04/27/2011 7:15:03 AM PDT by Wallop the Cat
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

There is a doctor signature .. he flubbed the
MD box, but it looks to be there. Looks like David Smilan.


96 posted on 04/27/2011 7:15:09 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Concho
What you better be looking around for is why is he throwing out this distraction? That son of a bitch is up to something else, and the MSM is gonna be all over this birth certificate like flies on crap while he is stiffing you some where else.

He has you looking at the one hand while the other hand is busy diddling something else. Better be concentrating on what the other hand is doing.

~~~~~~~~

TOO TRUE! Watch the other hand.

97 posted on 04/27/2011 7:16:41 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: UglyinLA

CLICK HERE AND ZOOM IT OUT.

Nothing to see here move along...seriously Chris Matthews declares it real.Obama will not win in 2012. The GOP needs a candidate, please. Attention Lt Col. West Please move to the front of the line and save your country, Thank-You.

98 posted on 04/27/2011 7:16:52 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (If Obama announced his resignation that would probably bring gas to $2.30 within an hour.)
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To: STARWISE

You know it is a fake....now he has really jumped the shark....


99 posted on 04/27/2011 7:17:09 AM PDT by shield (Rev2:9 Blasphemy of them which say they're Israelites, and are not, but are the synaGOGue of Satan.)
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To: All
Is it just me that thinks it's weird that the "unham Obama" part of the signature does NOT have ANY dithering like the other parts??
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100 posted on 04/27/2011 7:17:45 AM PDT by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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