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President to talk about his birth certificate
Fox news | 4/27/11 | nully

Posted on 04/27/2011 6:13:29 AM PDT by null and void

Just announced. Obama to speak in 45 minutes. (6:45 AM PST)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertficate; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; colbfake; eligibility; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamalegacy; officialbcrelease; photoshop; revisionisthistory; transparency
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To: ImphClinton

So the Nordyke family also forged their document?


601 posted on 04/27/2011 5:04:20 PM PDT by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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To: bigdaddy45

This is an abstract, not a long form. Whether it’s forged or not remains to be seen.


602 posted on 04/27/2011 5:26:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: MestaMachine

Could you tell the significance of the slant etc? I’m sneaking on and off FR - must feed the hungry (not me..!) and it’s impossible to read every single thread although I want to.


603 posted on 04/27/2011 5:28:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Let_It_Be_So

“We could all argue about this until the cows come home, but until this matter is settled by the USSC it will just be two competing schools of thought arguing with each other, nothing more.”

Except that there are numerous USSC decisions that refer to NBC and each one defines it as born in country to two citizen parents, and that the founding fathers used Vittals “Law of Nations” as the reference in writting the Constitution.

There is no rational reason why the Founding Fathers would want the highest office in the land to be available to anyone other than someone Thoroughly and Uniquely American. The vast majority of Americans are Natural Born Citizens and requiring that quality of citizenship is not an onerous requirement.

In fact allowing anyone not meeting that very basic quality of birth goes against the very reason of having eligibility in the first place.


604 posted on 04/27/2011 5:30:14 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: Personal Responsibility

This was reserached and quoted numerous times in the last couple of years. Do the homework, it’s all here on FR. People could not just invent whatever races or ethnicities they wanted, they had to pick from a list, and the appropirate one was “Negro”, “African” was not on the list.


605 posted on 04/27/2011 5:32:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: RummyChick

“I am not going to go track it down.

I gave you the name

Nguyen.

Go find it.”

Wynn??????

Just as I thought you have no link, nor rational basis for your stated opinion. Thanks anyway.....


606 posted on 04/27/2011 5:34:01 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: ssaftler

“However, before walking for office (I wouldn’t call what he did “Running”) in ‘08, he went through the machinations of assuring that he was eligible.”

Actually the Senate Democrats brought up the eligibility issue with McCain then gave McCain a pass on the NBC issue in order to provide cover for Obama. Notice that Res 911 highlights the nationally of the parents as the most inportant aspect of NBC when they dealt with McCain. Also notice that the Senate never examined Obama .......hmmmmmmm...


607 posted on 04/27/2011 5:44:41 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (Palin/West 2012)
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To: little jeremiah
This was reserached and quoted numerous times in the last couple of years. Do the homework, it’s all here on FR.

Is it?

People could not just invent whatever races or ethnicities they wanted, they had to pick from a list, and the appropirate one was “Negro”, “African” was not on the list.

Couldn't they? I'm not finding the Hawaiian Administrative Code mentioned here any time before today. I may be wrong, but if you have a citation, it's up to you to produce it.

Federal law specified various races to appear in birth certificates, among them "Negro," but it's not clear that state law restricted registrars to those categories.

Especially not in Hawaii where the race on one's birth certificate might be "Chinese," "Japanese," "Korean," "Filipino," or even "Portuguese" or "Puerto Rican."

When the data was submitted to the federal government it was made to conform to federal guidelines, but you'd have to provide the proof that the state imposed those federal categories on its own employees.

608 posted on 04/27/2011 5:46:41 PM PDT by x
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To: little jeremiah

Well what extra information is on a long form? Got a picture of one? My COLB looks basically exactly like this, and its the only one anyone has ever asked for.


609 posted on 04/27/2011 6:07:15 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: null and void

It’s been working for him for years. I can only assume he’s giving up this advantage is to torpedo his first contender - Trump. He’s definitely trumped Trump.

Wonder what he has on the next GOP frontrunner that comes up.


610 posted on 04/27/2011 6:19:04 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: null and void

It’s been working for him for years. I can only assume he’s giving up this advantage is to torpedo his first contender - Trump. He’s definitely trumped Trump.

Wonder what he has on the next GOP frontrunner that comes up.


611 posted on 04/27/2011 6:25:31 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: La Lydia
Maybe I'm just a bit more cynical...but I've got that feeling this was staged. A left leaning billionaire plays the tea party act and the President rolls over. Something tells me it will be the Donald that verifies it is real (or someone on his payroll). This is a bit too convenient. And it appears to be working.
612 posted on 04/27/2011 7:37:41 PM PDT by AMHN (Which is greater "Truth" or "Love"?)
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To: RummyChick

Well then you go right ahead. Have a good time at it. Best wishes to ya.


613 posted on 04/27/2011 7:40:34 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: AMHN

What is working? I don’t see all the skeptics rolling over and declaring BO a natural born citizen, by virtue of what he released today, those who didn’t see any value in the issue haven’t changed their minds, and the true BO believers never have and still don’t care.


614 posted on 04/27/2011 7:43:17 PM PDT by La Lydia ("California: When the parasites outnumber the hosts, it's all over.")
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To: bgill

I can’t deny that. But then who in their lives has everything just perfect? I am NOT defending him, I just couldnt pass that particular test.

If its a faulty stamp its a faulty stamp. But I am sorry, a presidency isn’t going to hinge on one letter of a single stamp.

People with a lot more expertise than we have, along with access will be looking at it I am sure. Trump was clear that he wasn’t letting go of the issue until he determined it was legit.

For us, we cannot determine the legitimacy of a given document by simply seeing a photo of it. It isn’t possible. You have to have the document itself. I predict he won’t give the document up for forensic analysis. Call me nuts or a bad conservative, what ever... but I don’t think he is gonna do it. He is one arrogant SOB and he got taken down a peg or two today. That in and of itself is some justice. That bastard let an American HERO, a man who has saved lives of our most precious assets, our soldiers... rot in PRISON! WTF. Seriously? Really? Yeah, he won’t let it go for analysis. He doesn’t CARE about anything other than his own ego. And that took a whack today. RIGHT ON!

Trump has made more progress than anyone else so far. He has the street cred on this one. We have to take that at face value. In many ways, we don’t have a choice in that.


615 posted on 04/27/2011 7:52:04 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Danae
I predict he won’t give the document up for forensic analysis.

It should have been done already. This was nothing more than a media blitz to carry his water. He showed a copy on top of a copy with green background? I don't know what the hell that is, but where's the long form? No, he won't show squat. And in the process, it's all downhill for him. It's doubtful he'll be able to finish the term now. Would have been so much better for him to keep his mouth shut and play coy. But no, arrogance and pride will do that when he sees Trump challenging him, while his adoring fans (his mind) aka the populace getting educated on this issue. Now comes further discrepancies, contrary statements, and getting tied in knots. The media, congress are pushing this hard because they stand to lose as well. Difference is they're on a ledge, we're on solid ground ;)
616 posted on 04/27/2011 8:02:37 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: TheBigJ

Bingo.

Ask yourself this: does a shark leave the area when there is blood in the water?

EXACTLY. Apparently even Oprah asked him about it today on her “interview” with Barry and Michelle. Just saw it on Greta.

Now, Barry, tell us... How can a man born under the British Nationality Act of 1948 be a Natural Born Citizen of the United States?

The writer of the 14th Amendment the Honorable John Bingham of Ohio says you CAN’T.

You must be born under the SOLE JURISDICTION of the United States in order to be a Natural Born Citizen.

Any answer there Barry?? Hum? Anything? (((Crickets)))

The smoke screen has been blown away. And Barry has no defense left. Do we have the stones to keep asking the question?


617 posted on 04/27/2011 8:09:39 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Danae

I don’t know how the rest of his interview went on Oprah, but from his statements from the clip I saw he stated “I remembered my birthplace” talking strangely as if as a baby one would know his circumstance. How drugged out is this guy?


618 posted on 04/27/2011 8:27:57 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: Danae

Box # 23 “evidence of delayed filing or alteration” appears to be whited out by appearance of a square defined void area surrounded by shading


619 posted on 04/27/2011 8:48:09 PM PDT by KTM rider ( patriot turned rebel)
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To: Forty-Niner

Many would agree with you, including myself. But, there are others who would argue against our position. I believe it will take a USSC ruling to settle the matter once and for all.


620 posted on 04/27/2011 8:56:15 PM PDT by Let_It_Be_So
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To: null and void

To people that use Adobe this is a forgery.

Obama’s new Birth Certificate - Proven to be altered and changed, Now Just More Questions?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9CSvGrT0uM

President Obama’s Birth Certificate PDF has Layers - FAKE! (mirror)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-gDH5z0PKI

Obama’s Long Form Certificate of Birth Certificate is a Forgery ~ 04-27-11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQkulIT7iL

This guy tried to get multiple layers from a scanned in document. Couldn’t.

White House Birth Certificate is Forgery? 2 of 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPX33ZNdmlo

I think it is a forgery.
The pixelation of the number up at the top “10641” If you do a high magnification on it.
You can se pixelation around it.

Obama’s Birth Certificate Is 100% Fake? Professional Graphics Designer Agrees It’s A Fake 1 of 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCMxVbPCPBY

Why does President Obama’s Birth Certificate PDF Have Layers? 3 of 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLTtengEvwk

Obama’s Birth Certificate Exposed Debunked as a Layered, Photoshopped, Fraud Hoax? 4 of 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeSzXcv3nXk


621 posted on 04/27/2011 9:06:02 PM PDT by cruise_missile (Obummer dumber than a teleprompter.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

It was as you expected.


622 posted on 04/27/2011 9:12:46 PM PDT by Grundforsen
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To: KTM rider

Seriously?

I don’t have the right programs to see that I guess. I honestly don’t know a darned thing about computer or photographic imagery.


623 posted on 04/27/2011 9:34:44 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: WayzataJOHNN

Interesting...but I doubt if this will be pushed. Too many cowards in the “home of the brave”.


624 posted on 04/27/2011 9:52:24 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Danae

Based on the form released today, this is the question worth asking now..and could it lead to impeachment? we could only hope so.


625 posted on 04/27/2011 10:11:54 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: Batman11

That is another thing that is missing..on my altered birth certificate ( as an adoptee) the name of the doctor who attended was listed as well as the hospital.


626 posted on 04/27/2011 10:13:40 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: Batman11
No offense, but the media is the real joke! Who gives a crap what the media says? That is the problem with all of the Repub potential candidates, except Palin, Bachman and Trump, they care what the media says about them. Screw the media. They are the enemy and are more responsible than anyone that Obama was elected!

AMEN. That's been the problem with every major national Republican pol for the past 20 years. They all seem to think if they're just nice enough, polite enough, and suck up enough to the media, then the media will treat them fairly. It's a joke. The media hate our guts and they will hate our guts no matter how nice we are. Hard to believe that people can be sharp enough to rise to national power, yet still be so incredibly naive.

MM (in TX)

627 posted on 04/27/2011 10:37:08 PM PDT by MississippiMan (http://gogmagogblog.wordpress.com/)
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To: NeoCaveman
Looks like we have the long form birth certificate. I just wonder what took so long.

SURELY after all this time, millions of dollars in legal fees, a serviceman in prison, etc., SURELY this blurred picture of a doc that's not even laid flat is not the only thing released by the White House? SURELY not? Are we to believe the White House just didn't have a decent scanner around???

MM (in TX)

628 posted on 04/28/2011 12:08:44 AM PDT by MississippiMan (http://gogmagogblog.wordpress.com/)
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To: justiceseeker93

Who filled it out?

If Stanley Ann did maybe she put African.

If a doctor did maybe he put African since BHO Sr. was an African and not a native.

Shouldn’t be too hard to find up whether other Black parents in Hawaii were listed as Negro or something else.


629 posted on 04/28/2011 12:41:40 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: thouworm

http://freedomtorch.com/blogs/3/2873/something-fishy-about-the-birth


630 posted on 04/28/2011 5:17:42 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: null and void

get your very own
http://www.kfyi.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=393798&article=8496892


631 posted on 04/28/2011 5:17:48 AM PDT by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: null and void

A certificate of live birth is not a long form. I don’t know why they would call it that. As though they had previously released a short form?

A certificate of live birth is what people use to get drivers licenses and such, Otherwise there is the actual birth certificate which you probably don’t even have. It has foot prints. No long form. No such thing.


632 posted on 04/28/2011 6:01:25 AM PDT by sazerac (rock and roll...god bless america,..)
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To: Impy
Who filled it out?

In all probability, neither Stanley Ann nor the doctor would do anything but sign the purported BC. The task of filling in the other info would fall to a hospital employee who did it routinely. Only certain designations of "race" would be deemed acceptable to the state bureaucrats - that hospital employee would be aware of them - and "African" would not be among them.

633 posted on 04/28/2011 12:14:59 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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634 posted on 04/28/2011 12:41:21 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: cruise_missile

Definitive: Obama Birth Certificate Fake, Fraud, Hoax-100% Proof, Adobe’s OCR Debunked Exposed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c93cm17_2C8

Everyone’s posted the multiple layered forgery before the White Hut realized their juvenile mistake and flattened the image.

Zero’s toast. Biggest fraud ever in history. No way finishes term.


635 posted on 04/28/2011 3:37:30 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: TheBigJ
They flattened it? What morons!

Makes it look ten times as bad.

This went from grassy knoll to finding the second gunman on the knoll with a smoking gun.

636 posted on 04/28/2011 5:06:50 PM PDT by cruise_missile (Obummer dumber than a teleprompter.)
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To: Spunky

My son’s hospital certificate was issued in 1990. His cute little footprints are on it. My daughter’s was issued in 1984, same thing, different hospital. Mine was issued in 1953, same thing, third hospital.


637 posted on 04/28/2011 7:53:24 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: kaila

candidly, if the white house was going to fake or alter this document, they would do a world class job of it. They would have the state gov of HI involved (the necessary people), and the only possible hole in the job would thus be plugged. They would not do a bush tx/ang dan-rather job.


638 posted on 04/28/2011 11:11:52 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: null and void

See this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g30VCl_cgk


639 posted on 04/29/2011 12:19:19 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Clint N. Suhks

what I find so interesting is the lines follow the curve of the paper to the left, but the background lines in green do NOT follow the curve left


640 posted on 04/30/2011 5:08:50 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: wolf78

“From a purely PR / media standpoint it could be a smart move by the Obama camp to release the thing NOW: Namely as to elevate Trump.”

That’s an intelligent point, although after all this delay and obstruction, why should I instantly assume this is on the up-and-up? It flies in the face of Mystery Man’s history — Mister “0” as in Suspect Zero. I’m not going to abandon hard working patriotic researchers at the drop of a hat.


641 posted on 04/30/2011 5:42:16 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: wolf78

While I’m no after-birther, timing is worth pondering too:

Obama’s Other Hand
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2712633/posts
“While we were distracted by the president’s birth certificate show-and-tell, his EPA releases its guidelines for expanding federal power under the Clean Water Act. America’s economy and freedom are at stake.”


642 posted on 04/30/2011 6:29:05 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Sprite518; TigersEye

You sound like a serious graphics reasearcher, Sprite. Interesting. Saving your to flash. [My landline keeps me “text only”, so this is not my area.]

I did find a couple links that might be related:

Obama’s Birth Certificate Is 100% Fake? Professional Graphics Designer Agrees It’s A Fake
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2711626/posts

Graphics pros challenge Obama birth certificate
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=292673


643 posted on 04/30/2011 6:33:26 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: little jeremiah; null and void

Here’s my quick summary take [though I’m “text-only”, not good at this]

Here’s the buz:

“layered copies .... “

“Different saturation levels on different copies.”

“This is an abstract.”

- - -

Now for specifics:

Obama’s Birth Certificate Is 100% Fake? Professional Graphics Designer Agrees It’s A Fake
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2711626/posts

Graphics pros challenge Obama birth certificate
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=292673

“Hey did you notice how different the “R” is compared to the rest of the letters when you use the “Marquee Zoom”? For instance, when viewing in “Marquee Zoom” every other letter except the “R”, has some sort of point/block. Just zoom in and use the wheel on your mouse. Anyone can clearly see this. Unbelievable!”
— Sprite518
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711164/posts?page=332#332


644 posted on 04/30/2011 6:39:03 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

If I may [Anna] Toot my own horn:

Parts of the serial number were scanned in at two different resolutions and contrast levels
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2712636/posts?page=32#32


645 posted on 04/30/2011 6:44:24 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 828 of our national holiday from reality. - What 3 AM phone call?)
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To: null and void

Bump!

[and saved.]


646 posted on 04/30/2011 8:25:51 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: null and void

Has a single deep-researching certifigate hawk been swayed by this new development?


647 posted on 04/30/2011 11:16:46 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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