Skip to comments.Obama’s Birth Certificate, Dissected
Posted on 04/27/2011 10:13:46 AM PDT by RED SOUTH
I AM NOT A BIRTHER! But this one is too interesting to ignore. Upon hearing all the fuss about the newly released Certificate of Live Birth, I decided to open it up in Adobe Illustrator and see just what we were given by the White House. Judge for yourself but looks to be composed by multiple elements.
Thanks very much, thouworm!!!!
aphid opened it and sure enough, it’s layered.
There is something wrong with this document, folks.
And this is a surprise? Nothing he says or produces will convince me of anything. He’s had 3 years to clear things up, instead he used those years to fabricate evidence.
just wondering.. do you think this document could now be used to free that poor army doctor?-
Is this font one that was used in typewriters available in 1961.
ping to #43
I'll assume you are talking about the Nordyke certs? You do realize that the Nordyke certs were requested and issued in 1966, right? And that Obama's was just done, in 2011? So of course the Registrar is a different person. And perhaps they don't have the Director of Health sign it any more. A lot can change in 50 years.
Where’s Buckhead ? Tanker ? ;)
That would be standard for going paperless, yes. I think that's quite possible, depending on the IT for the office.
When they need to produce an official document, they assemble it from previously archived electronic images.
I think I'm with you, if this is a single document, scanned, given a unique ID and stored on an image server. No need to assemble in this case, just provide a pdf or print of the file. The date on this is April 25, so perhaps the whole thing was done electronically - the pdf sent posted on the gov website.
The whole thing looks weird. Why is the template background image not flat??
Looks to be taken from a book or binder of other COLB.
And I cant think of a reason why they’d place dates on it or the cert. stamp.
Curiouser and curiouser.
“just wondering.. do you think this document could now be used to free that poor army doctor?-”
I would like to believe so but I have no way of knowing.
Someone has kindly broken down the .pdf into more elements.
Posted by rintense:
"Im no expert, but I know enough about retouching images, specifically text manipulation. And I am not a birther... "But just through my initial examination of the pdf, it is crystal clear it has been manipulated.
"For example, when I zoom in using Acrobat Professional, all the text separates ( flashes) in layers. A scanned document will not do that, unless its OCR. Also when zoomed in, there is clear white space added around the text.
"Again, a scan would not add that halo effect to the type.
"The white space around various text is also inconsistent, meaning that on some words, there is fatter white space around the word as though someone used a 1-2px. eraser inconsistently.
"This would have been produced on a typewriter. The halo effect around the type is clearly not from a typewriter.
"There is something wrong with this document, folks."
President Obama’s Birth Certificate PDF has “Layers”
Obama will be toast if it’s proven that he forged documents. That’s what happened to Dan Rather.
It depends. :)
If you scan to a raster file - jpeg, tiff - and stay raster/image editor, then, yes, one layer of pixels. However..
I just took a photograph jpeg, one flat layer of pixels, opened it in Preview and saved it as a PDF, then opened the PDF in Illustrator.
In Illustrator I have: Layer 1, under that Group Layer, Image Layer, Clipping Layer. That's for a photo jpeg. For an image scanned or printed to PDF, depending on the settings, program and software you can get a lot of layers you never made.
Here, to me, is a good test:
If we've discovered the original forgers layers, then:
1) We likely would see layers that aren't named as the software automatically does (Layer1, Group, Image, Clipping Path). It would be a nightmare to keep track of the layers without more than this set of names. We don't see this. We see what the software usually does.
2) We would be able to cleanly ungroup, release paths, etc. and get to each piece in some usable manner for manipulating. We can't - the software isn't perfect, it separates what it thinks it should and puts in on a layer, then repeats. This is a mess to try to alter.
Halos are created by sharpening, the bigger the halo, the more the sharpening. Most programs default to some degree of sharpening, adjustable by the user.
Bookmarking. Great find!
Boys, it’s real. We win on issues...not this wacky sh*t.
Thank you, LucyT. Bless Trump for calling for the doc to be examined. I hope he keeps the pressure on.
That's my point. They're opening a PDF in Illustrator.
The presence of a clipping mask reveals a poor attempt to flatten the image and cover up manipulation.
I just opened a jpeg photographed, saved as PDF, in Illustrator. There's a Clipping Path Layer.
Should be: jpeg *photograph*. IOW, pure flat pixels.
How does this compare 1961 date to the other person’s birth certificate that we have as an example, the person that was born after obamma? Does that birth certificate indicate the last digit of the year 1961 appear to be handwritten in?
You might recall that Dr. Fukino said she saw the original bound into a book along with many other similar forms. So, if the intention was to create a credible fake, it would make sense to simulate the curvature that you get when you scan from a book.
You are missing that book Obama had his friend Billy Ayers ghost-write and which made millions in royalties. It celebrated his father's Kenyan origins and became a key part of his personal legend, on which he ran for President in 2008. You are also missing that the Chief Justice of the United States swore him in twice, while having full knowledge of his parentage. Stare decisis! And you are missing that the US Congress failed to disqualify his electoral votes, despite having full knowledge of his parentage. Constitutions cannot protect the sheeple from their bad judgement.
Time to exit this blind alley!
This person says it’s not a typo. Hope people can figure it out. Maybe it’s been addressed already.
There is no typo. I actually says THE but there appears to have been some grit or dust on the stamp lying across part of the H that makes it appears as an X.
880 posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:20:22 AM by Adammon
so at this point are you fairly certain this is all barking up the wrong tree?
I’ll post visual examples tonight after work.
Has any paper document you've scanned created a clipping mask?
I just took a scanned paper doc. As tiff or jpeg, opened in Illustrator, I get only Layer1 and ImageLayer. As PDF, I get Layer1, GroupLayer, ImageLayer, ClippingLayer.
As you know there's a lot of variables here - scanner, settings, software/versions - but I believe it is a fact that PDFs opened in Illustrator can have many layers not created by a human. Further, that these layers and layer names match what is seen opening the BC PDF in Illustrator.
So all I'm saying here is that the existence of these layers, as described in the article, does not indicate anything out of the ordinary. They do not indicate any human manipulation; further they more strongly indicate software creation.
Finally! Now the empty suit can relax while he kisses Oprah’s butt and toranadoes plow up fly over country and texas burns down.
It'd be something if the "whited out" area were not the same text as the moveable black gif. But it is.
The only way a DB would be applicable here would be as quick way to call up previously scanned images.
In contrast, the CoLB is indeed just a database printout that has been certified to be correct. At some point, the DoH computerized their records. They went through all their paper and entered key facts from each document into a database. Now, when somebody asks for their birth certificate, they just key the person's info into a computer application which looks up the database record. If the data looks right, they click a button, and the program prints the key facts out on safety paper. They take the paper off the printer, stamp it with Dr. Onaka's signature stamp, emboss it with the state seal, and send it out to the citizen and cash his check. No more dusty files or photocopy hassles (except for the special cases, like this one).
Yep. Being very specific: When I open the BC I got from the whitehouse site in Illustrator, I see just what I see all the time in files that I know have no human-created layers.
...Then they conducted forensics on the little blue dress.
Long Lost Ping!
Looks about the same. The 1 in 1961 looks darker than 196.
From source WND
OK, so I’m reading all of this interesting conjecture about the scanned image, how it ‘layers out’ in Adobe, that it really shouldn’t layer out for a simple scan, or it would layer out if they (the scanning people) left the OCR option on accidentally, etc.
I am not a graphic software geek by any stretch, in fact, I would just consider myself an adept user of many different kinds of software.
But, I will tell you this: if I was going to make a forgery of a period document like that, I would get a real one, I’d scan it purposely with OCR on, peel out the information of the innocent victim, and then paste in my own stuff. I believe that’s exactly what occurred here.
Waiting this long to release something so innocuous causes my BS meter to peg. There’s something definitely not right about the motive nor timing of this release.
I am confident there are many skilled and savvy FRiends with the knowledge and expertise to expose this for what it is.
That would be one way to DB it. The other would be to attach image files to records in the DB.
This looks to me to be an image file (paper curl again.) If it were found out that image files aren't used - they use the method you describe above - then something would be amiss. Or, as you say, a special case here where they went and scanned the book.
Therefore,even if Zero was born in Hawaii, he was not a US citizen at birth.I hope Donald Trump brings this fact to light. No national figure seems to have the moxy to do so.
Obama wrote a book about this fact.
Says Obamas father was born in Kenya. Am I missing something here?
He must be a naturalized citizen, and live in US five years before zero was born. I think!
What is this business about stuff “left in the clipboard”?
Can some enlighten? I don’t have the software.
Also, I count 8 scans needed along with the field data. Another reason a document scan, DB and image server makes more sense - assuming they are paperless in some form. They could be old style and pull the book, make a copy...