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Obama’s Birth Certificate, Dissected
http://bryankeithnixon.com/?p=103 ^

Posted on 04/27/2011 10:13:46 AM PDT by RED SOUTH

I AM NOT A BIRTHER! But this one is too interesting to ignore. Upon hearing all the fuss about the newly released Certificate of Live Birth, I decided to open it up in Adobe Illustrator and see just what we were given by the White House. Judge for yourself but looks to be composed by multiple elements.


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KEYWORDS: certifigate; layers; naturalborncitizen; officialbcrelease
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To: thouworm; aphid

Thanks very much, thouworm!!!!
aphid opened it and sure enough, it’s layered.


51 posted on 04/27/2011 11:05:02 AM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: rintense

There is something wrong with this document, folks.
_________________________

And this is a surprise? Nothing he says or produces will convince me of anything. He’s had 3 years to clear things up, instead he used those years to fabricate evidence.


52 posted on 04/27/2011 11:06:17 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: Persevero

just wondering.. do you think this document could now be used to free that poor army doctor?-


53 posted on 04/27/2011 11:07:27 AM PDT by mj1234
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To: gogogodzilla; All

Is this font one that was used in typewriters available in 1961.


54 posted on 04/27/2011 11:07:45 AM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: LucyT

ping to #43


55 posted on 04/27/2011 11:07:52 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: FrankR
Also, the Certs are only one day apart, yet they show a completely different signature as Registrar, and obama's shows no signature for a Director of Health.

I'll assume you are talking about the Nordyke certs? You do realize that the Nordyke certs were requested and issued in 1966, right? And that Obama's was just done, in 2011? So of course the Registrar is a different person. And perhaps they don't have the Director of Health sign it any more. A lot can change in 50 years.

56 posted on 04/27/2011 11:08:40 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: thouworm; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; butterdezillion; onyx; Buckhead; TankerKC

Thank you.

BUMP !

Where’s Buckhead ? Tanker ? ;)


57 posted on 04/27/2011 11:08:54 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: IamConservative
What I am suggesting is that they have scanned their paper records into image files and those image files are stored in a database.

That would be standard for going paperless, yes. I think that's quite possible, depending on the IT for the office.

When they need to produce an official document, they assemble it from previously archived electronic images.

I think I'm with you, if this is a single document, scanned, given a unique ID and stored on an image server. No need to assemble in this case, just provide a pdf or print of the file. The date on this is April 25, so perhaps the whole thing was done electronically - the pdf sent posted on the gov website.

58 posted on 04/27/2011 11:10:35 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: nhwingut

The whole thing looks weird. Why is the template background image not flat??
Looks to be taken from a book or binder of other COLB.

And I cant think of a reason why they’d place dates on it or the cert. stamp.

Curiouser and curiouser.


59 posted on 04/27/2011 11:12:11 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: mj1234

“just wondering.. do you think this document could now be used to free that poor army doctor?-”

I would like to believe so but I have no way of knowing.


60 posted on 04/27/2011 11:14:44 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: All

Someone has kindly broken down the .pdf into more elements.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B7RBLw083OS5NjI4NGY2YTItZjMyOC00ODZjLThkY2EtNzlkZTc3NmNkZmE0&hl=en&pli=1


61 posted on 04/27/2011 11:19:15 AM PDT by aphid (Pay attention or you will lose the country you love.)
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To: rintense; Nepeta; Plummz; Bikkuri; GregNH; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ColdOne; ...
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Posted by rintense:

"I’m no expert, but I know enough about retouching images, specifically text manipulation. And I am not a birther... "But just through my initial examination of the pdf, it is crystal clear it has been manipulated.

"For example, when I zoom in using Acrobat Professional, all the text separates ( flashes) in layers. A scanned document will not do that, unless it’s OCR. Also when zoomed in, there is clear white space added around the text.

"Again, a scan would not add that halo effect to the type.

"The white space around various text is also inconsistent, meaning that on some words, there is fatter white space around the word as though someone used a 1-2px. eraser inconsistently.

"This would have been produced on a typewriter. The halo effect around the type is clearly not from a typewriter.

"There is something wrong with this document, folks."

62 posted on 04/27/2011 11:26:04 AM PDT by LucyT ("Radical islam is real islam. "Moderate" islam is its trojan horse." - Travis McGee)
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To: thouworm; PowerPro; aphid; D-fendr; mike182d; onyx; Danae; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; ...

Youtube

President Obama’s Birth Certificate PDF has “Layers”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgVIei87oFo&feature=player_embedded


63 posted on 04/27/2011 11:28:39 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: LucyT

Obama will be toast if it’s proven that he forged documents. That’s what happened to Dan Rather.


64 posted on 04/27/2011 11:28:53 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: D-fendr
"I just opened a text to PDF document in Adobe Illustrator. There were no layers in the original, just text processing.

In Illustator there was Layer 1 which included a layer Group comprised of a layer for each line of text, some path and clipping path layers, like we see in the Obama doc. All of this separating, grouping and layering was done by the software."


A digitally generated text document (Word, etc.) has meta data that Adobe has to work with when generating a PDF. A scanned document does NOT possess this same data. Apples and oranges. Whatever software is used to scan the document may create these layers too but it WILL NOT create a clipping mask. These are only generated in programs like Photoshop or Illustrator.

If there were "just" layers, I wouldn't be as skeptical. The presence of a clipping mask reveals a poor attempt to flatten the image and cover up manipulation.

I could be wrong though. Has any paper document you've scanned created a clipping mask?
65 posted on 04/27/2011 11:29:20 AM PDT by mike182d ("Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?")
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To: RobRoy
But isn’t the original document contents treated as basically a single image, and therefore a single layer? I am not an expert on it, which is why I am asking.

It depends. :)

If you scan to a raster file - jpeg, tiff - and stay raster/image editor, then, yes, one layer of pixels. However..

I just took a photograph jpeg, one flat layer of pixels, opened it in Preview and saved it as a PDF, then opened the PDF in Illustrator.

In Illustrator I have: Layer 1, under that Group Layer, Image Layer, Clipping Layer. That's for a photo jpeg. For an image scanned or printed to PDF, depending on the settings, program and software… you can get a lot of layers you never made.

Here, to me, is a good test:

If we've discovered the original forgers layers, then:

1) We likely would see layers that aren't named as the software automatically does (Layer1, Group, Image, Clipping Path). It would be a nightmare to keep track of the layers without more than this set of names. We don't see this. We see what the software usually does.

2) We would be able to cleanly ungroup, release paths, etc. and get to each piece in some usable manner for manipulating. We can't - the software isn't perfect, it separates what it thinks it should and puts in on a layer, then repeats. This is a mess to try to alter.

66 posted on 04/27/2011 11:29:56 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: LucyT

Halos are created by sharpening, the bigger the halo, the more the sharpening. Most programs default to some degree of sharpening, adjustable by the user.


67 posted on 04/27/2011 11:32:23 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: gogogodzilla
Photobucket
68 posted on 04/27/2011 11:35:17 AM PDT by mdel747
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To: STARWISE

Bookmarking. Great find!


69 posted on 04/27/2011 11:35:33 AM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: Tatze

Boys, it’s real. We win on issues...not this wacky sh*t.


70 posted on 04/27/2011 11:36:02 AM PDT by maineman (BC EAGLES FAN)
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To: LucyT

Thank you, LucyT. Bless Trump for calling for the doc to be examined. I hope he keeps the pressure on.


71 posted on 04/27/2011 11:36:27 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: mike182d
These are only generated in programs like Photoshop or Illustrator.

That's my point. They're opening a PDF in Illustrator.

The presence of a clipping mask reveals a poor attempt to flatten the image and cover up manipulation.

I just opened a jpeg photographed, saved as PDF, in Illustrator. There's a Clipping Path Layer.

72 posted on 04/27/2011 11:36:32 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: mike182d

Should be: jpeg *photograph*. IOW, pure flat pixels.


73 posted on 04/27/2011 11:38:17 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Tatze

How does this compare 1961 date to the other person’s birth certificate that we have as an example, the person that was born after obamma? Does that birth certificate indicate the last digit of the year 1961 appear to be handwritten in?


74 posted on 04/27/2011 11:44:40 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: moehoward
Why is the template background image not flat?? Looks to be taken from a book or binder of other COLB.

You might recall that Dr. Fukino said she saw the original bound into a book along with many other similar forms. So, if the intention was to create a credible fake, it would make sense to simulate the curvature that you get when you scan from a book.

75 posted on 04/27/2011 11:44:50 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Vicki
I looked at the certificate. I thought both parents had to be born in America. Says Obama’s father was born in Kenya. Am I missing something here?

You are missing that book Obama had his friend Billy Ayers ghost-write and which made millions in royalties. It celebrated his father's Kenyan origins and became a key part of his personal legend, on which he ran for President in 2008. You are also missing that the Chief Justice of the United States swore him in twice, while having full knowledge of his parentage. Stare decisis! And you are missing that the US Congress failed to disqualify his electoral votes, despite having full knowledge of his parentage. Constitutions cannot protect the sheeple from their bad judgement.

Time to exit this blind alley!

76 posted on 04/27/2011 11:44:52 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: LucyT; Adammon

This person says it’s not a typo. Hope people can figure it out. Maybe it’s been addressed already.

There is no typo. I actually says THE but there appears to have been some grit or dust on the stamp lying across part of the H that makes it appears as an X.

880 posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:20:22 AM by Adammon

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711155/posts?page=880#880


77 posted on 04/27/2011 11:45:12 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: D-fendr

so at this point are you fairly certain this is all barking up the wrong tree?


78 posted on 04/27/2011 11:46:46 AM PDT by woofie
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To: RED SOUTH
Hoorah for American Ingenuity!
79 posted on 04/27/2011 11:47:48 AM PDT by jetson
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To: RED SOUTH
The Forensic Error level analysis does not show anything suspicious for Photoshopping that I can see. Of course, the Photoshopping would be in the production of the fake original, which would then be photocopied onto the HI DOH security paper and in so doing would lose the Photoshopping artifact.
80 posted on 04/27/2011 11:49:01 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: LucyT

I’ll post visual examples tonight after work.


81 posted on 04/27/2011 11:49:49 AM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: mike182d
To be more specific to your question here:

Has any paper document you've scanned created a clipping mask?

I just took a scanned paper doc. As tiff or jpeg, opened in Illustrator, I get only Layer1 and ImageLayer. As PDF, I get Layer1, GroupLayer, ImageLayer, ClippingLayer.

As you know there's a lot of variables here - scanner, settings, software/versions - but I believe it is a fact that PDFs opened in Illustrator can have many layers not created by a human. Further, that these layers and layer names match what is seen opening the BC PDF in Illustrator.

So all I'm saying here is that the existence of these layers, as described in the article, does not indicate anything out of the ordinary. They do not indicate any human manipulation; further they more strongly indicate software creation.

82 posted on 04/27/2011 11:53:06 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: RED SOUTH

Finally! Now the empty suit can relax while he kisses Oprah’s butt and toranadoes plow up fly over country and texas burns down.


83 posted on 04/27/2011 11:53:36 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: betty boop
"As if preexisting elements had been "whited out" to accommodate new text. "

It'd be something if the "whited out" area were not the same text as the moveable black gif. But it is.

84 posted on 04/27/2011 11:56:48 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: D-fendr
I don’t think this is from a DB because of the edge curl. A DB would likely print from a layout - clean, flat. This looks like a scan of a book page.

The only way a DB would be applicable here would be as quick way to call up previously scanned images.

In contrast, the CoLB is indeed just a database printout that has been certified to be correct. At some point, the DoH computerized their records. They went through all their paper and entered key facts from each document into a database. Now, when somebody asks for their birth certificate, they just key the person's info into a computer application which looks up the database record. If the data looks right, they click a button, and the program prints the key facts out on safety paper. They take the paper off the printer, stamp it with Dr. Onaka's signature stamp, emboss it with the state seal, and send it out to the citizen and cash his check. No more dusty files or photocopy hassles (except for the special cases, like this one).

85 posted on 04/27/2011 11:57:16 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: woofie
so at this point are you fairly certain this is all barking up the wrong tree?

Yep. Being very specific: When I open the BC I got from the whitehouse site in Illustrator, I see just what I see all the time in files that I know have no human-created layers.

86 posted on 04/27/2011 11:58:26 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Mr. Wright
Not so long ago another RAT President told the American Public, “I did not have sex with that woman; Ms. Lewinsky”.

...Then they conducted forensics on the little blue dress.

87 posted on 04/27/2011 11:58:43 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: RED SOUTH
This is what it looks like when I import it into Adobe's Photoshop program:



Keep in mind that PDF's are Adobe's forte', so this isn't a problem with the importer on Adobe Photoshop.

For those who say this is a result of scanning it in and using and Optical Character Recognition (OCR) program, answer me this: Why does the OCR recognize the State Registrar's signature and why does it NOT recognize some of the other easily recognizable printed characters on the form?

Like I said in another post, I've long held that Obama was probably born in Hawaii, but now, I'm not so sure...

Cheers
88 posted on 04/27/2011 11:59:12 AM PDT by DoctorBulldog (A lot of people probably just negated my comment while I was hunting and pecking at the keyboard!)
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To: Registered

Long Lost Ping!


89 posted on 04/27/2011 12:01:37 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: rawhide
How does this compare 1961 date to the other person’s birth certificate that we have as an example, the person that was born after obamma? Does that birth certificate indicate the last digit of the year 1961 appear to be handwritten in?

Looks about the same. The 1 in 1961 looks darker than 196.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711155/posts?page=115#115

90 posted on 04/27/2011 12:02:34 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: aphid
compare this with post #5

From source WND


91 posted on 04/27/2011 12:03:35 PM PDT by chainsaw ("The government cannot give to anyone anything that it does not first take from someone else.")
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To: FrankR
"Reversing it also plainly shows that there is no embossed seal or the authenticity verbage:"

There IS a seal. You need to look closely at it. I've circled it here:



Cheers
92 posted on 04/27/2011 12:05:12 PM PDT by DoctorBulldog (A lot of people probably just negated my comment while I was hunting and pecking at the keyboard!)
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To: RED SOUTH

OK, so I’m reading all of this interesting conjecture about the scanned image, how it ‘layers out’ in Adobe, that it really shouldn’t layer out for a simple scan, or it would layer out if they (the scanning people) left the OCR option on accidentally, etc.

I am not a graphic software geek by any stretch, in fact, I would just consider myself an adept user of many different kinds of software.

But, I will tell you this: if I was going to make a forgery of a period document like that, I would get a real one, I’d scan it purposely with OCR on, peel out the information of the innocent victim, and then paste in my own stuff. I believe that’s exactly what occurred here.

Waiting this long to release something so innocuous causes my BS meter to peg. There’s something definitely not right about the motive nor timing of this release.

I am confident there are many skilled and savvy FRiends with the knowledge and expertise to expose this for what it is.


93 posted on 04/27/2011 12:05:21 PM PDT by nesnah
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To: cynwoody
They went through all their paper and entered key facts from each document into a database… the program prints the key facts out on safety paper. They take the paper off the printer, stamp it with Dr. Onaka's signature stamp, emboss it with the state seal…

That would be one way to DB it. The other would be to attach image files to records in the DB.

This looks to me to be an image file (paper curl again.) If it were found out that image files aren't used - they use the method you describe above - then something would be amiss. Or, as you say, a special case here where they went and scanned the book.

94 posted on 04/27/2011 12:06:40 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: cynwoody
Obama wrote in one of his books he had his Birth Certificate. He didn't need to ask Hawaii for it.
95 posted on 04/27/2011 12:09:45 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Vicki
What is being overlooked be many folks is that Zero's father could not confer US citizenship on him because he was not an American, but neither could his mother because she was not old enough.

Therefore,even if Zero was born in Hawaii, he was not a US citizen at birth.I hope Donald Trump brings this fact to light. No national figure seems to have the moxy to do so.

96 posted on 04/27/2011 12:10:35 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Persevero
I am theorizing that the reason Obama kept his long form BC hidden for so long is because it shows his father was born in Kenya.

Obama wrote a book about this fact.

97 posted on 04/27/2011 12:13:15 PM PDT by Gena Bukin
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To: Vicki

Says Obama’s father was born in Kenya. Am I missing something here?

He must be a naturalized citizen, and live in US five years before zero was born. I think!


98 posted on 04/27/2011 12:14:46 PM PDT by chainsaw ("The government cannot give to anyone anything that it does not first take from someone else.")
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To: RED SOUTH

What is this business about stuff “left in the clipboard”?

http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=185094

Can some enlighten? I don’t have the software.


99 posted on 04/27/2011 12:16:59 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: cynwoody

Also, I count 8 scans needed along with the field data. Another reason a document scan, DB and image server makes more sense - assuming they are paperless in some form. They could be old style and pull the book, make a copy...


100 posted on 04/27/2011 12:17:18 PM PDT by D-fendr
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