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Medical Deferment Allowed Trump to Avoid Vietnam War
FoxNews.com ^ | April 30, 2011 | FoxNews.com

Posted on 04/30/2011 6:36:30 PM PDT by ColdOne

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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“How about if traitors in our own country were to send the factories, assets and technology a foreign attacker would be seeking - to a communist nation for money?
Would you likewise, oppose that?”
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Of course I oppose that, but it has zero to do with the subject.
I might add, however, that buying from China is also in part due to the power of labor unions and restrictions that make production in America very difficult.
I also recognize that America could in no way expect Americans to compete with slave labor, and I could support high tariffs on products of “slave” labor.


41 posted on 04/30/2011 7:19:15 PM PDT by AlexW (Proud eligibility skeptic)
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To: omega4179
"Nobody wanted to be drafted"

I can absolutely assure you that that is a false statement. Many men volunteered for the Draft (2 years, instead of 3 years).

42 posted on 04/30/2011 7:20:04 PM PDT by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: AlexW

25% ok to start?

Just saying...


43 posted on 04/30/2011 7:20:34 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Birther on Board)
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To: driftdiver
I haven't let anyone manipulate me on this issue. I voted against Clinton, the despicable draft dodger, and Kerry, the despicable traitor and false war hero. His PH's aren't worth a warm bucket of piss.

I'm fed up to my eyeballs with draft dodgers, poseurs and 4-F's vying for the Presidency. I'm only 63 years old, I still have most of my faculties intact although I'm now receiving disability from the Dep't of Veterans Affairs and I promise you I'll do a better job than the evil cipher now occupying the WH or any of the potential candidates on the Republican side of the aisle.

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
44 posted on 04/30/2011 7:23:03 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: warchild9; omega4179

It’s not justifiable, and shouldn’t be dismissed as irrelevant. I don’t fault anyone for not wanting to go to war, but it’s not without dishonor for a fit individual to defer one’s sacrifice to another.

I know a couple of guys with Vietnam combat experience. Their stories are blistering, without any room for the good days. It ain’t right to know their sacrifices, and welcome dismissively those that took advantage of deferments. Unfortunately, this is an irreversible negative for Trump in my opinion. His heroics on the politics scene don’t wash history, but neither should history eclipse the truths he’s now championing.


45 posted on 04/30/2011 7:23:40 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: driftdiver
Bush tried to get to Vietnam.

From newsbusters:
On his Web site, BernardGoldberg.com, Goldberg chastizes Mapes:

However the complexities and seeming contradictions are interpreted, if Bush at any point had volunteered to fly combat missions in Vietnam – as the CBS investigation unequivocally states — how then could he have been a slacker? The clear answer is that he could not – unless, of course, he volunteered to go to Vietnam knowing full well he wouldn’t be taken. But if that was the case, Mapes would have had an obligation to report both that he volunteered and then produce a credible witness to say it was a sham. She did neither.

Mapes, a well-known liberal at CBS News, has always contended that she had no agenda, that she was not out to get President Bush. But if she knew that George Bush had volunteered for service in Vietnam – as the CBS outside panel clearly concludes — she obviously had an obligation to share that with her viewers.

46 posted on 04/30/2011 7:24:37 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: Gene Eric

Don’t forget the China thing. It destroys his credibility.


47 posted on 04/30/2011 7:25:16 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: Eaker

I looked up Trumps birthday and found 6/14/46. Then I looked up the lottery drawing for the first lottery in 1969 or maybe 1970 and found that 6/14 got a 356


48 posted on 04/30/2011 7:26:14 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: LZ_Bayonet; omega4179

Besides, the Vietnam war was overwhelmingly fought by volunteers anyway, it was not like WWII that was fought with few volunteers and mostly draftees.


49 posted on 04/30/2011 7:27:09 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: ansel12
George Bush was a fighter pilot during the war.....

Yup he strapped an F-102 to his A$$ for over 400 hours of flight in one of the most dangerous century series A/C we had at the time.

I joined the Air Force with the draft chasing my a$$ in 1966, BUT, I had set my goals for that service since I was 11 and the war had nothing to do with it. Most combat vets I meet say it doesn't matter where you served, you served, period.

50 posted on 04/30/2011 7:27:16 PM PDT by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: ansel12

Bush is also a blatant, stubborn globalist. Even going so far as to call those of us who believe in American border “Nativists”.

So what is the point of defending America first, then stubbornly refusing to enforce our borders?...

Series.


51 posted on 04/30/2011 7:27:53 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Birther on Board)
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To: driftdiver
Yes I did. Ron Paul served as a flight surgeon in the US Air Force 1963 to 1965 and the US Air National Guard from 1965 to 1968. He is the only candidate on the horizon from either party that has ever put on the uniform of his country.(barring Alan West who I don't think is running).
52 posted on 04/30/2011 7:28:08 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; All
Nope... At least I believe that business should be able to make a profit.. They exist for that reason only.. By the way we do have factories and they are located in the South. Also a lot of factories is becoming more automated I feel that we should reduce a corporate tax rate and make every state a right to work.

Why don't you answer my question???
53 posted on 04/30/2011 7:28:10 PM PDT by KevinDavis ( Anyone who backs Trump is a chump..)
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To: KevinDavis

You believe sending American jobs, wealth and technology to China for money, is somehow honorable?

It’s not.

It’s treason. That’s your answer. Accept it or not.


54 posted on 04/30/2011 7:30:01 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Birther on Board)
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To: ColdOne

Hoo boy, the oppo researchers are digging deep. Next thing you know they’re going to tell us he’s one of those disgusting rich people and that he’s been divorced several times.

I’m not a big fan of Trump’s, but if they want to put a dent in his approval they’ll have to find something stronger than what B.J. Clinton did. So he could dodge the draft, sell half our military secrets to the ChiComs, get Lewinskis from every supermodel and Playboy bunny he’s had on Apprentice while on the phone, kill off a couple of inconvenient associates, let a few more associates go to the hoosegow in his stead, and smoke weed like Tommy Chong in Amsterdam and he’d STILL be more acceptable than any Democrat.


55 posted on 04/30/2011 7:30:22 PM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“25% ok to start?
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Well, I have no idea. I have never studied it, but one thing I do know...
America will not likely return to the pre 70s days, when
most every town, regardless of how small it was, had at least
one factory producing something, be it hats, or a pair of Levis.
Today, it is hard to find ANY small town that has a factory, and there is not one single Levi plant left in America.


56 posted on 04/30/2011 7:30:30 PM PDT by AlexW (Proud eligibility skeptic)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Ron Paul, flight surgeon, US Air Force 1963-1965, United States Air National Guard 1965-1968


57 posted on 04/30/2011 7:30:30 PM PDT by rwa265 (Christ my Cornerstone)
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To: muir_redwoods; Eaker

I was in that first lottery.

Trump was in his fourth or fifth year of draft eligibility by the time he got that number, so it is the years before that lottery that count for Trump in the “draft” discussion.

The real question is, why did he never serve, draft or no draft, war or no war?


58 posted on 04/30/2011 7:33:06 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: AlexW

Gotta start somewhere.

I have heard exactly one. ONE politician in America today suggesting we start:

Donald Trump.


59 posted on 04/30/2011 7:33:10 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Birther on Board)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; All
So you support telling business in how things should be done?? How is that small Government


60 posted on 04/30/2011 7:35:18 PM PDT by KevinDavis ( Anyone who backs Trump is a chump..)
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