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Yesterday was a sad day for Free Republic
May 3, 2011 | Huck

Posted on 05/03/2011 4:46:53 AM PDT by Huck

Yesterday should have been a glorious day around here. There should have been fireworks and celebration. There should have been somber remembrances. There should have been patriotic tributes. There should have been shared joy at the news that our guys had finally gotten Bin Laden.

Instead, when I visited the site, what I found was a lot of carping. I found people focused more on the political spin than on the great news. I found people transferring their birther mentality onto this event, talking about Obama faking this news, photoshopping information, etc. It wasn't everybody, but it was a LOT of people. It made me sick.

Yesterday Free Republic seemed like DU. It makes me wonder what the hell is going on. Are Freepers getting younger? I always assume that DU is so pathetically immature because they must be younger. Free Republic has always been a place dominated by great class, and wit, and decency. Not this time. What I saw yesterday was a pathetic embarrassment and totally unworthy of this great forum.

As some of you may know, I was in lower Manhattan on 9-11. I was just across the street from the WTC when the first plane hit. I still remember the beautiful clear blue sky that day. I remember walking in between the towers just a minute or so before 8:46am, on my normal route to work. I remember my co-workers screaming in panic when they watched from an office window as the second plane hit the south tower. I remember women crying and screaming hysterically. I remember not being able to contact my wife to tell her I was OK. I remember people jumping to their deaths. I remember seeing the north tower go down with my own eyes, hearing it with my own ears. I remember fleeing Manhattan. I remember it was a Tuesday.

I remember returning to work the following Monday, riding the ferry passed the site, noxious smoke still billowing from the wreckage. I remember armed troops on the sidewalks. I remember wearing a breathing mask inside my building because the foul odor was seeping in through the ventilation system. I remember thinking we'd really gotten kicked in the teeth. They had killed innocent people, they had traumatized our women and children, and I really wanted revenge. I hung a picture on my wall of the American eagle sharpening his talons.

It has been a long time since that day. It's hard to believe how fast time flies. Then again, if you lost your loved one, I imagine time hasn't gone so fast. I love my wife so much, I can empathize with anyone who has lost the one they love. I can't imagine how that would be, and don't want to know, but I can cry for those people because I know what it is like to find your one true love.

I'm not an Obama fan. I hate socialism. But I am so happy that Bin Laden is killed, and that we have exacted some real revenge. It's about time. The politics don't even play into it for me. I still have the little flag, now tattered, that I flew on my car antenna after 9-11. I want to take it out of storage and put it on my car. I want to see American flags on cars like we saw back then. But it's not going to happen, and partially because the normally patriotic conservatives such as the ones here on Free Republic are instead focused on the politics and the fact that a socialist Democrat was president and will get some of the credit.

I guess you all would have been pissed on D-Day too. FDR was as big a socialist as anyone. I guess VE day and VJ day would have chapped your hides, since Truman was a DEM. I don't mean to paint with a broad brush. I know it wasn't every Freeper acting this way. But when I went on the board, that was the general impression, and it was really disappointing. It should have been a great day here. Instead, I saw a lack of patriotism and a lack of class. Free Republic should be better than this. If conservatives lose their patriotism and class, then what will happen to those virtues? I hope we can get them back soon. In the meantime, thanks for reading.

Respectfully,

Huck


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My unhappy thoughts and observations, for what it's worth.
1 posted on 05/03/2011 4:46:55 AM PDT by Huck
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To: Huck

See ya.


2 posted on 05/03/2011 4:48:56 AM PDT by central_va
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To: central_va

If this ends up being an opus I’m fine with that. I took time to think about it. I think what I said is true.


3 posted on 05/03/2011 4:50:21 AM PDT by Huck (We must have universal healthcare. -- Donald Trump.)
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To: Huck

I agree.


4 posted on 05/03/2011 4:50:31 AM PDT by looney tune
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To: Huck

Hope you have your fireproof suit on! By the way, I agree with you. The discourse on FR has deteriorated from the early days.


5 posted on 05/03/2011 4:51:07 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Huck

“But I am so happy that Bin Laden is killed”

As am I but a little skepticism is healthy. When Clinton said the infamous words “I did not have sex with that woman”, did you say “Well, that settles it then. He is innocent.”? When the President says “I killed Bin Laden and threw his body where no one can verify that it happened”, it makes people a little suspicious especially when he did it to cater to the butchers cult beliefs.

I have friends on both sides of the political spectrum that are suspicious.


6 posted on 05/03/2011 4:52:10 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Huck
There was a time when I was happy in the thoughts that brave men were doing things in the night that kept me safe...things I could not know about...And I was secure.

Different world now. I pay attention to the man behind the curtain, even though I am no longer young.

7 posted on 05/03/2011 4:52:14 AM PDT by IrishPennant (Obama - as big a lie as the number 4 on a roman numeral clock...and so few bother to notice!)
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To: Huck
My unhappy thoughts and observations, for what it's worth.

Too negative, I didn't see it that way.

I'll admit that since I played golf yesterday {had a good day, 78}, I didn't scour FR all day and may have missed some negative stuff, but what I read, seemed OK.

Of course, anytime I shoot in the 70s I'm happy so maybe that obscured my view.

8 posted on 05/03/2011 4:53:16 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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To: Huck

The fact of his death is good. The circumstances surrounding his death, such as Obama knowing four months ago exactly where he was but doing nothing, were bad.


9 posted on 05/03/2011 4:53:37 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Huck

I tell my four children: choose to be optimistic. I have noticed many of the same things on this forum, and not just yesterday. I have also written advocating more charitable and more hopeful and optimistic positions on many issues. This does not require ceding any ground. It simply means showing class and staying resolute around the principles that this site embodies.

There is a frustration among many of those who post here that is legitimate and well-founded. But we live in great times in the world’s greatest republic. We must remain ever mindful of these blessings.


10 posted on 05/03/2011 4:53:45 AM PDT by drellberg
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To: Huck

Yup. It was pretty bad. I passed by the threads that looked like they’d be overtaken by the fringe elements. (which has certainly grown due to this president)


11 posted on 05/03/2011 4:53:50 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Huck

I’m sick of birther and conspiracy threads too, but not enough to post a vanity complaint. I just skip those threads.


12 posted on 05/03/2011 4:53:52 AM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: Huck

I knew no one affected personally by 9-11. And I admit that I am not energized very much by the death of bin Laden. I am skeptical because of the quick burial at sea and the lack of definitive evidence. I don’t trust zer0 as far as I can throw the Trump towers.

I treasure and applaud the military and for their sake I trust in their mission but want to verify it. I want bin Laden to be dead and I want to celebrate the victory which is theirs and NOT 0bama’s.

I want what you want. I want to rejoice.

But I can’t. The timing and the politics of the day seems to be too overwhelming.

I don’t know why.


13 posted on 05/03/2011 4:53:56 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Huck
I hung a picture on my wall of the American eagle sharpening his talons

Remember that one vividly; it was my favorite. I wrote the artist and thanked him, and he responded.


14 posted on 05/03/2011 4:54:18 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Huck

I have to agree with you. I wound up just staying off of the site most of the day.


15 posted on 05/03/2011 4:54:18 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Huck

As a “younger” member (24) I thought the behavior around here was strange as well. I don’t care if the Easter Bunny administration killed Osama I’m glad he’s dead and proud of our soldiers. The son of a bitch will never hurt another American and thats what counts.

Frankly I was shocked at the attiude around here. There must have been miles of tin foil used and enough conspiracy theories to choke abovetopsecret. If you don’t support the administration thats fine I don’t either. But support the soldiers who risked their lives shooting the bastard. We can save the garbage for later.


17 posted on 05/03/2011 4:54:43 AM PDT by utherdoul
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To: Huck

Your thoughts and observations are easy.

Having Obama as president (along with all the minions and handlers) is difficult.

Let’s not be gullible. The opposition knows our weaknesses.


18 posted on 05/03/2011 4:54:49 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Huck
You are WRONG!

I saw a lot of praising, our brave troops.

There will not be a lot of credit to Obama since all he did was whine about everything Bush did but then wants the credit for doing what Bush's policy led to.

19 posted on 05/03/2011 4:54:56 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: BibChr

Do you recall the one of Uncle Sam sitting, looking over the destroyed WTC with the caption, “Give me a day to mourn my dead, then get my gun?”

I can’t find it...


20 posted on 05/03/2011 4:56:12 AM PDT by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: Huck
My husband's post-9/11 bumper sticker

How does America spell "relief"?
UBL DOA

21 posted on 05/03/2011 4:56:18 AM PDT by syriacus (World leaders know, for certain, that Obama can eliminate them when it suits HIS schedule)
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To: Huck

When you can’t believe a word out of this administration it is hard to suspend disbelief. I mean an instant DNA test, no pictures, and a quick sea jettison? These people are control freaks.


22 posted on 05/03/2011 4:56:39 AM PDT by central_va
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To: Huck
I can sympathize with your sentiment, Huck, but I suggested yesterday that one of the underlying factors here is that it's been nearly ten freaking years since 9/11 -- and Osama bin Laden's demise was almost anti-climactic to a lot of people. And after all the nonsense we heard from people in Washington about how they'd move heaven and earth to track him down even if they had to dig through every mountain in Afghanistan, it turns out he's been living comfortably in a compound in Pakistan for the last six years.

Your comparisons to World War II are interesting, but maybe not truly valid. I suspect the V-E and V-J Day celebrations in this country would have been pretty muted if we learned that Adolph Hitler had been killed in a compound outside London -- in 1951.

The simple truth is that Osama bin Laden has been off the radar screen of most people -- including most people in government and even the U.S. military -- for years.

23 posted on 05/03/2011 4:56:41 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Huck
Free Republic should be better than this. If conservatives lose their patriotism and class, then what will happen to those virtues? I hope we can get them back soon.

Ditto.

24 posted on 05/03/2011 4:56:55 AM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Huck

There should have been celebration. Except...... pompous selfrightous sanctimony trumps happiness.


25 posted on 05/03/2011 4:57:22 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Huck

I totally agree, it was terrible. A bunch of losers have infested this board, like the kind you see posting on ESPN or Deadspin or Yahoo.


26 posted on 05/03/2011 4:57:22 AM PDT by JacksonCalhoun (CT Yankee in NC Exile)
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To: Huck
Is Being a Born Citizen of the United States of Sufficient Citizenship Status to be President of the United States and Commander in Chief of Our Military? The Founders and Framers Emphatically Decided It Was Not!
27 posted on 05/03/2011 4:57:58 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: Huck

Word.

The tinfoil hat crowd as gotten out of control, and yesterday it was on display for everyone. I echo your sentiments.


28 posted on 05/03/2011 5:00:21 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Huck

Yes, some of the posts were over the top — but most of the scepticism and stuff is well-founded and just a product of the corrupt yahoos running this administration.

It is not just FR HUck - I am a defense Constractor and work on a large AF installation. The UNIVERSAL response from the MILITARY members and GOVERNMENT workers here yesterday was, “GLad we got him, but I want to see proof of his death.” That was almost completely the same response I saw around town and at school last night also.

So the scepticism is not just here, it is everywhere. Nobody believes a word that Obama or this administration says without proof to back it up.


29 posted on 05/03/2011 5:02:04 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: Huck

I tried to explain this yesterday. I was one of those sickened by the parade like attitude. Like winning the Super Bowl or World Series.

My heart goes out to those who have lost loved ones at the hands of that monster, even those who have died before 9/11. Their families now have justice.

What sickens me is the fact that for the past 8 yrs. there has been a huge amount of disdain for what our troops have been doing. What sickens me is the fact that the media and the WH will play this as long as they can, probably until the election and guess what? While we are all celebrating there are STILL thousands of troops on the ground. This is NOT over!! I pray that they will not be forgotten now that Osama is dead. Did you know that last week we had 28 troops killed? April was the deadliest month for our troops in Iraq since 2009!

I will celebrate when EVERYONE IS HOME!!!


30 posted on 05/03/2011 5:02:13 AM PDT by panthermom (Proud Mom of an Infantry Soldier)
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To: Huck

FR is not monolithic, there were a variety of views expressed yesterday and many people quietly agree with you. Since I work in Obama central, I can tell you that Obama is looking presidential on the TV in the lobby, on the stupid snapshots on the LCD in the elevators, and there are smiles on many Obamanite faces. I don’t begrudge them their pleasure for the moment, but I know what really counts is who can motivate the most folks in 2012. Folks are generally not going to be motivated by negativity and conspiracy theories, although those have their place. Those keep the creative energy flowing. We also need positive actions like looking for conservative leaders and stopping the Obama agenda. We need both.


31 posted on 05/03/2011 5:02:14 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Huck; All

I am in totally agreement with you Huck. Wrote something along theses lines last month-it does seem to have shifted to sarcasm and bickering. It used to be a great site about politics and solutions...


32 posted on 05/03/2011 5:02:22 AM PDT by seeker41 (CULPRIT CHINESE COMPANY INFO.)
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To: Huck

I am a Birther and I was happy.


33 posted on 05/03/2011 5:02:26 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (How is allowing an Army Doctor be prosecuted and sent to prison "good for the country"?)
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To: Huck

Today doesn’t look much better. There is even a thread with people agreeing with cindy sheehan for pete’s sake. I’m logging off. Too nice out. See ya.


34 posted on 05/03/2011 5:02:26 AM PDT by Holen1 (Chesapeake Bay seasoning. "I put that **** on everything.")
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To: Huck
Since I was born in the first half of the previous century, I no longer qualify under any definition to be labeled as young.

But as I have grown older, I am certainly more cynical. Older, but wiser!

I remember seeing the heads up Sunday night that the potus was about to make a statement. I could have stayed up, but his past record of wasting my time lead me to bed. I did certainly celebrate the news upon rising

But I remember a lesson from college. Look at someones track record and you will often find valid indicators of their future performance. Around here at FR, we have been kicking those valid indicators around since 2008, and history has shown us that we are more correct today, then back when some of us first posited concerns about the candidate for high office.

Yes celebrate the accomplishment! Know full well that dedicated servants in our government pulled this off, and probably in spite of the one in office. I am glad now I did not stay up and watch that speech. He gets to take credit because he occupies the chair, but credit goes to the resources in CIA and DOD, the one that fulfilled the mission.

Git 'R Done!

35 posted on 05/03/2011 5:02:43 AM PDT by Dustoff45
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To: Huck
The freedom to speak/write your thoughts and beliefs doesn't come with a guarantee that you'll like everything you hear and read. I'd suggest to you that despite the distaste you had for a one-day snapshot of FR responses that the majority of posts on FR are smart, often humorous, and on point.

If you don't like to read posts indicating suspicion of the POTUS’s motives and actions I'd suggest to you that though his own actions POTUS has created the very environment of suspicion that upsets you. You can't blame a rape victim for checking the closets before bed every night.

36 posted on 05/03/2011 5:02:43 AM PDT by RavenATB ("Destroy the family and you destroy the country!" ~Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Huck
I think most people here were very happy with Bin Laden's death.

There were a few that didn't believe he was dead, but that wasn't the main focus.

There were some who were unhappy with the way Bambi took the credit, and how the MSM were spinning this to make him God like once again. I still am unhappy with that part.

37 posted on 05/03/2011 5:02:57 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Huck

Well said.


38 posted on 05/03/2011 5:03:14 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Huck

America’s problem is within; and that’s where real Americans should be focused—imo, the pseudo-americuns who got us where we are today will never get their bearings straight, and so...

Semper fidelis Americans!

Gunny G
aka: Dick Gaines
*****


39 posted on 05/03/2011 5:03:42 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Huck

Well said.


40 posted on 05/03/2011 5:03:58 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Huck
Been here since May 1998. I agree with you.

Thanks for posting.

41 posted on 05/03/2011 5:04:17 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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To: Huck

Believe, but verify.

As for celebrations, I can only speak personally. Being a Christian, I cannot “celebrate” the death of a man who most certainly will spend eternity in Hell.

I believe in justice and that evil deeds require punishment.

I also strongly support the death penelty.

I just take no pleasure in it.

That, and I believe Obama is a lying cur dog who would lie to his own mother.


42 posted on 05/03/2011 5:04:53 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: Huck

I, for one, was excited and pleased by his death. I give credit to the current administration for taking him out - although the prior administration must get a great deal of credit as well. So please don’t be too disheartened by some freepers who are unable to see a good thing or believe in conspiracy theories because they hate the current president.

Maybe we are of like mind because I, too, lost acquiantances on 9/11 and watched the sky turn black and had to close all the windows because of the stench of burning building material.


43 posted on 05/03/2011 5:05:16 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (.)
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To: Huck

Part of the problem too is that some of the real class acts of this site over the years are no longer with us. I would have loved to see John Armor’s (Congressman Billybob) thoughts.


44 posted on 05/03/2011 5:05:34 AM PDT by JacksonCalhoun (CT Yankee in NC Exile)
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To: wolfcreek

Yes, this man has brought out such raw emotion that it is very hard to celebrate ANYTHING he does short of resigning.


45 posted on 05/03/2011 5:05:57 AM PDT by panthermom (Proud Mom of an Infantry Soldier)
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To: Huck

For what it is worth, I very much agree with you. On a lot of occasions, a small percentage of ‘The Right’ earn the cliche remarks which are pointed in the direction of us all.


46 posted on 05/03/2011 5:07:31 AM PDT by RobertClark (On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.)
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To: Huck

Agreement Bump.


47 posted on 05/03/2011 5:07:46 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Huck

Huck, the worm OBL should have disappeared from the face of the earth within a few weeks of 9-11. Snuffing his miserable existence at this point does nothing to retard the continued decline of the USA. Celebration is highly misguided.


48 posted on 05/03/2011 5:07:46 AM PDT by Check6 (United States of Moronia: A nation of morons ruled by a gang of communist thugs.)
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To: Huck

Hat tip to you sir. The sniping by the birthers(some of them) at everyone who disagrees with them is out of control.


49 posted on 05/03/2011 5:08:06 AM PDT by GQuagmire ('Don't Piss The Lady Off')
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To: Huck

I did not know any 9-11 victims, but there were certain stories that captured me back then.
They were on my mind all day yesterday - and I can imagine the sense of relief their families felt.

I’ve always taught my kids it isn’t good to celebrate the death of another person - so when one of my youngest seem confused yesterday with the smiles and scenes of celebration on the news I said to him “well - there are exceptions to every rule”
We can celebrate this man will not continue his acts of terror against innocents - as our brave soldiers continue to pursue others like him.


50 posted on 05/03/2011 5:08:26 AM PDT by Scotswife
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