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Yesterday was a sad day for Free Republic
May 3, 2011 | Huck

Posted on 05/03/2011 4:46:53 AM PDT by Huck

Yesterday should have been a glorious day around here. There should have been fireworks and celebration. There should have been somber remembrances. There should have been patriotic tributes. There should have been shared joy at the news that our guys had finally gotten Bin Laden.

Instead, when I visited the site, what I found was a lot of carping. I found people focused more on the political spin than on the great news. I found people transferring their birther mentality onto this event, talking about Obama faking this news, photoshopping information, etc. It wasn't everybody, but it was a LOT of people. It made me sick.

Yesterday Free Republic seemed like DU. It makes me wonder what the hell is going on. Are Freepers getting younger? I always assume that DU is so pathetically immature because they must be younger. Free Republic has always been a place dominated by great class, and wit, and decency. Not this time. What I saw yesterday was a pathetic embarrassment and totally unworthy of this great forum.

As some of you may know, I was in lower Manhattan on 9-11. I was just across the street from the WTC when the first plane hit. I still remember the beautiful clear blue sky that day. I remember walking in between the towers just a minute or so before 8:46am, on my normal route to work. I remember my co-workers screaming in panic when they watched from an office window as the second plane hit the south tower. I remember women crying and screaming hysterically. I remember not being able to contact my wife to tell her I was OK. I remember people jumping to their deaths. I remember seeing the north tower go down with my own eyes, hearing it with my own ears. I remember fleeing Manhattan. I remember it was a Tuesday.

I remember returning to work the following Monday, riding the ferry passed the site, noxious smoke still billowing from the wreckage. I remember armed troops on the sidewalks. I remember wearing a breathing mask inside my building because the foul odor was seeping in through the ventilation system. I remember thinking we'd really gotten kicked in the teeth. They had killed innocent people, they had traumatized our women and children, and I really wanted revenge. I hung a picture on my wall of the American eagle sharpening his talons.

It has been a long time since that day. It's hard to believe how fast time flies. Then again, if you lost your loved one, I imagine time hasn't gone so fast. I love my wife so much, I can empathize with anyone who has lost the one they love. I can't imagine how that would be, and don't want to know, but I can cry for those people because I know what it is like to find your one true love.

I'm not an Obama fan. I hate socialism. But I am so happy that Bin Laden is killed, and that we have exacted some real revenge. It's about time. The politics don't even play into it for me. I still have the little flag, now tattered, that I flew on my car antenna after 9-11. I want to take it out of storage and put it on my car. I want to see American flags on cars like we saw back then. But it's not going to happen, and partially because the normally patriotic conservatives such as the ones here on Free Republic are instead focused on the politics and the fact that a socialist Democrat was president and will get some of the credit.

I guess you all would have been pissed on D-Day too. FDR was as big a socialist as anyone. I guess VE day and VJ day would have chapped your hides, since Truman was a DEM. I don't mean to paint with a broad brush. I know it wasn't every Freeper acting this way. But when I went on the board, that was the general impression, and it was really disappointing. It should have been a great day here. Instead, I saw a lack of patriotism and a lack of class. Free Republic should be better than this. If conservatives lose their patriotism and class, then what will happen to those virtues? I hope we can get them back soon. In the meantime, thanks for reading.

Respectfully,

Huck


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To: Scythian; Huck

I’ve only been here since 2005, but I can see what Scythian, Huck and other “old timers” are talking about.

They must feel like a lot of conservatives feel about the Republican Party. They didn’t leave the Party. The Party left them.

And just as some of FR’s veterans who have been around for 10 years and longer, I too feel there has been a change in the heart and soul of FR.

For one, there are tens of thousands more FReepers than ever before. Too hard to keep up with.

But more than anything - this is a political site. And thanks to the politics of Obama, the Democrats and a whole lot of Republicans, we FReepers are left with bitterness over our political, moral and economic cultures. And it is reflected in our threads and in our replies.

See my tagline. I just added it yesterday. It stands as a testimony to what Obama has brought us to. We can’t even celebrate a victory over bin Laden’s death due to the chicanery of Obama’s twisted political grandstanding.

How sad.

So. You miss the Free Republic of ten years ago? Great. So do I. (And I wasn’t even here 10 years ago).

But there’s no use crying about that now. As I told you Scythian on your semi-opus thread; 1) you will be back before the 2012 elections (see, I was right), and 2) You get too agitated about __________ (fill in the bank) threads? Fine. Stay off them. Focus on threads that are good for you.


351 posted on 05/03/2011 7:45:38 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Who else but Obama could screw up the death of Osama bin Laden?)
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To: grumpygresh

I think this is misdirected. I don’t remember ever comparing FDR and anybody.


352 posted on 05/03/2011 7:46:01 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Huck

Well said.

I too have noticed that the tone of FR has changed. I use to come to see the ideas, to learn, and felt more or less easy about recommending FR.

Now trash talk, innuendos and the lack of reasoned comments have made me fade out.

Yet so many must need FR as a place to spew their venom - much like all the comment sections all over the news sites.


353 posted on 05/03/2011 7:46:19 AM PDT by oneaglewings
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To: rockinqsranch

The seals aren’t allowed to talk about it. All we have is the word of the higher-ups, who owe their jobs to Obama.

I do believe that Osama is dead. Something happened, and there are photos that are supportive that it was a raid of a compound in Pakistan. Whether there could have been a double for Osama like they had for Saddam, I don’t know.

What this whole thing is showing, I think, is that people HAVE learned that people in government and media are willing to tell tall tales, or to go along with whatever story is in vogue without actually checking the facts. And Obama is a notorious liar, which makes him dangerously non-credible. He seems to think that because he lives in the White House we have to believe and trust him. But trust is earned, and you don’t earn people’s trust by flipping them off whenever they ask for verification of the claims you make.


354 posted on 05/03/2011 7:46:56 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Huck

Well said, Huck.

I, too, was hoping for an apolitical moment of celebration, but the conspiracy theories started showing up almost immediately. I despise 0bama to the core of my being, but this was one rare, fleeting moment that — regardless of who sits in the White House — we.. AMERICA.. got that evil bastard bin Laden.


355 posted on 05/03/2011 7:47:04 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: Huck
The politics don't even play into it for me.

It strikes me that the politics are far more important than the revenge because they are about the future and our political enemies are bent on flying this nation into the ground screaming Obama Akbar! For them, a socialist paradise awaits beyond our utter destruction.

Proverbs 21:31
The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD.

356 posted on 05/03/2011 7:47:09 AM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
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To: Huck

Well said.

I too have noticed that the tone of FR has changed. I use to come to see the ideas, to learn, and felt more or less easy about recommending FR.

Now trash talk, innuendos and the lack of reasoned comments have made me fade out.

Yet so many must need FR as a place to spew their venom - much like all the comment sections all over the news sites.


357 posted on 05/03/2011 7:47:16 AM PDT by oneaglewings
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To: Huck

Thoughtful people do not celebrate an execution and make no mistake, that is what this was, a very necessary and well deserved execution. Thoughtful people take satisfaction from the knowledge that long over due justice has finally been served and offer thanks and a salute to our military men and women who have been fighting the war on terror on our behalf, but we are not barbarians like the Palestinians, who we see celebrating in the streets, passing sweets and taking pleasure in the death of their enemies.

Osama bin Laden is dead, may he never rest in peace.


358 posted on 05/03/2011 7:47:40 AM PDT by Eva
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To: ilovesarah2012

I don’t trust them until I examine them myself. I haven’t gone through the verify part yet, you see.

There is no problem on my part living with uncertainty. You seem to have a problem with it, though. You appear to need to jump to a conclusion to feel comfortable or settled or something.


359 posted on 05/03/2011 7:48:22 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Huck

Comparing FDR and 0bama is utterly ridiculous.
1. FDR was proud of his country and would never have gone around the world apologizing for America.
2. True, FDR was a socialist supported crony capitalism. However, socialism was still relatively untested on a macro level in the early 20th century and its flaws were not obvious until that later half of the 20th century. This does not excuse FDR for his flawed economic experiment, but it does show that 0bama has a wanton disregard for history.


360 posted on 05/03/2011 7:49:23 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: central_va

“Care to post a link to one of those? I was on FR all day long and never hopped on one of those “its fake” threads.”

Here’s one.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2713787/posts


361 posted on 05/03/2011 7:49:33 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Huck

On any site any where on the net you are going to see fringe trollers post wild conspiracy. FR cannot be faulted for fringe posts that are probably DUers and Daily Kaos paid bloggers.

This is being posted all over facebook.

Let’s be clear on this: OBAMA DID NOT KILL BIN LADEN.American Navy Seal’s did, who OBAMA just a few weeks ago was debating on whether or not to pay.OBAMA just happened to be in office when our Navy Seal Team found OsamaBL and took him out. Not a OBAMA victory, an AMERICAN victory! It was waterboarding that allowed intel for this to happen. Obama gives them funerals and miranda rights. REPOST IF YOU AGREE!!!

America is not stupid.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll


362 posted on 05/03/2011 7:49:33 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: paulycy

Sorry, this was misdirected, I intended it to go to the post author.


363 posted on 05/03/2011 7:50:04 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: TSgt

It was done bt Seattle P-I editorial cartoonist David Horsey. I have searched and searched, but I cannot find it.

The exact quote was “Give me a day to mourn my dead, and then I’ll go get my shotgun”.


364 posted on 05/03/2011 7:50:25 AM PDT by hoagy62 (Help stamp out crack-pull up your pants.)
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To: Huck

Why would anyone dump the body of the biggest mass murderer in modern history where no one can get it? This is the only question that sticks in my craw.


365 posted on 05/03/2011 7:51:20 AM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: Huck
Probably the only reason I continue to come to FR is because it is the best news aggregator on the web.

Me too. I've been posting less and lurking more for that reason.

Me three

366 posted on 05/03/2011 7:52:15 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: wintertime
We can give up the fight for truth

No dice. You need to fight for conservatism, not various versions of artifact provinance. A brief snapshot of philosphy: you can only believe evidence that you have in hand. You can believe other people's evidence if they have earned your trust in some way. While Obama does not have my trust, AP does to some extent. Their scan of the document negates the pixel size and other arguments (layers in the PDF version, etc). But I don't want to debate that here because that is not about "truth" at all, just about theories of artifacts which we can't personally examine. Much better to stick to the truth that Obama sucks and needs to be stopped by all methods at our disposal. Birtherism is one method, but a very ineffective one.

367 posted on 05/03/2011 7:53:23 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Huck

I celebrated, but left websites and the MSM were intent on turning Obama into some kind of Marlboro Man who did the job himself. I gave him credit for signing the order, but said I really wanted to shake the hand of the guy who pulled the trigger. But my celebration was muted by the left attitude of “C’mon, you got to give Obama his props.” No one ever gave Bush any “props” for anything. And there was little mention that the interrogation techniques at Gitmo got the intel needed for this mission....


368 posted on 05/03/2011 7:54:22 AM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: paulycy

I didn’t believe the short-form BC but I am leaning toward believing the just-released long form. Not sure how we prove it’s real or not.

As for Bin Laden, I deduced that if he wasn’t dead, he would let the world know (unless we just kidnapped him and are holding him in Area 51). Would Obama risk the truth coming out that he really wasn’t dead? How would that look? But mostly I think the SEALs would be up in arms if Obama and the administration was lying. I do question why Pakistan was not notified until after the raid unless the administration feels they can’t be trusted. If that is the case, stop sending them our money. If someone shows me a pic of what is supposed to be a dead Bin Laden, that won’t convince me because there are all sorts of photoshopped pics everywhere. I believe it’s true because of other evidence. But the Taliban are saying he isn’t really dead, so maybe you side with them.


369 posted on 05/03/2011 7:54:49 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Hacklehead

Ok,that was a Sky News article. The posts looked about 50-50 each way. What’s the big deal? Why is this the end of Free Republic?


370 posted on 05/03/2011 7:55:05 AM PDT by central_va
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To: saganite
General agreement ping. There's a lot to say about your point and Huck's. Lately FR seems plagued by the same irrationality and crassness that is destroying society at large. Sometimes coming here is like going back to your old neighborhood and observing with dismay that 30-40% of it has gone to seed. Maybe it is a sign of the times that even FR has been sucked into the the general decline of our country.
371 posted on 05/03/2011 7:55:33 AM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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To: Antoninus
particularly one who had such little chance of repentance.

Nonsense. God hardened this wicked man's heart so that he could work His holy will with him.

Luke 16:31
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Romans 9:2 -23
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

372 posted on 05/03/2011 7:56:26 AM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
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To: indylindy

As a “denier”, I spent many hours explaining how tornadoes are caused by cool, dry air and strong jet streams, not “global warming”. Global warming will reduce tornadoes if that theory is true. And that is just the latest battle in a never ending war. It won’t stop with defeating Obama since so many RINOs have been infected.


373 posted on 05/03/2011 7:57:14 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: central_va

That arrogant pontificator has been chastising people here for two days.

He is entitled to his opinion. I don’t care for group think and I don’t think people who don’t share his enthusiasm for reasons of their own, should be constantly derided.

Maybe he is part of Obama’s unity movement. If he is, he won’t get any from me. LOL


374 posted on 05/03/2011 7:57:21 AM PDT by dforest
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To: palmer

Yep, that is the truth. I am also a denier.


375 posted on 05/03/2011 7:59:02 AM PDT by dforest
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To: butterdezillion
The seals aren’t allowed to talk about it.

"...I do not advertise the nature of my work, nor seek recognition for my actions..." - SEAL Code/Warrior Creed

376 posted on 05/03/2011 8:02:32 AM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I think the BC is BS based on my own fact finding.

Having said that, I am leaning extremely heavily towards believing that OBL is dead (besides being the resident Trust But VERIFY guy) mostly because of the arguments about the military guys and also because of the picture of the national defense team watching the mission in real time. 0bama and Hillary look so uncomfortable and out-of-place that it must be a real military mission and I don't think they would have been able to fake or nor would they have thought to hold onto it for a week or two if the mission had gone off earlier. To me that was fairly convincing.

So, I will defend my right to informed skepticism and I will not bow to those who think I am a conspiracy nut. They will have to prove that just as the govt will have to prove whatever story they are trying to tell me. I am an equal opportunity skeptic! ;0)

377 posted on 05/03/2011 8:04:01 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Huck

100% agree with Huck.


378 posted on 05/03/2011 8:04:39 AM PDT by sand lake bar
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To: ilovesarah2012

Photos can be checked for photoshopping just as “birth certificates” can.

We’ve already had one photoshopped photo of a dead Osama. Unfortunately, the digital capabilities we have now make analysis a necessity.

When the POTUS presents to everybody an image of a 1961 official document that has kerning and has been scanned in a format that allows manipulation.... it reduces the credibility of both him and everybody who went along with his charade. That’s just a natural fact of life.


379 posted on 05/03/2011 8:04:41 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Huck
I'm sorry if watching our infantile president go on tv and practically claim he led the raid Rambo style put a damper on things for me but it did. I'm sorry if seeing stupid college kids treat this moment like the kickoff for Obama’s campaign put me in a sour mood but it did.

I'm glad he is gone but I loathe my president now more than ever and fear for the future after seeing these idiots the other night.

380 posted on 05/03/2011 8:05:56 AM PDT by redk
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To: Huck
I found people transferring their birther mentality...

Had to stop there Hank, though I detected your "Respectfully" at the end, and feel that it's insincere, based on the above.

381 posted on 05/03/2011 8:08:39 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: butterdezillion

Have you compared the most recent BC with one someone else has recently gotten from Hawaii? How does Hawaii produce the BC now when requested? Is it just a photocopy onto a blank form or is it printed out from a computer copy?


382 posted on 05/03/2011 8:09:49 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: dennisw

” So puhleeeeeze! My patriotic enthusiasm is reserved for those who made it happen. Navy Seals, CIA and our military “

Good....now I don’t have to post anything


383 posted on 05/03/2011 8:10:53 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: a real Sheila

Best post on this thread...you have nailed it so hard that the earth trembles in response.


384 posted on 05/03/2011 8:11:20 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: paulycy

Is that the Of-fish-al WH photo of the Osama burial at sea? LOL


385 posted on 05/03/2011 8:11:53 AM PDT by dforest
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To: indylindy

LOL!


386 posted on 05/03/2011 8:12:20 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Buckhead

FR ain ‘t what it used to be. It’s just bozos and yahoos yelling all day long.

__________________________________________

Sir, I respect you and value your great contributions to this site. And I have a question.

Did you have bozos and yahoos yelling all day long at you when you exposed the Rathergate memo? At the time, I’m sure there must have been some who called you a conspiracy nut with your tin-foil hat on a little too tight, and things like that.

Just as there are many now on FR who are “yelling all day long” about them silly birthers. (By the way, I am a birther).


387 posted on 05/03/2011 8:13:01 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Who else but Obama could screw up the death of Osama bin Laden?)
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To: central_va

“Ok,that was a Sky News article. The posts looked about 50-50 each way. What’s the big deal? Why is this the end of Free Republic?”

I never said it was the end of FR, but there were many other threads like it. You seemed to doubt that deniers and conspiracy kooks were on this site. You wanted an example, I gave you one. BTW, 50% doubters is a huge percentage IMO.


388 posted on 05/03/2011 8:13:58 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: saganite
The discourse on FR has deteriorated from the early days.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL! You must not remember the same "early days" as I do. Your memory is incorrect.

389 posted on 05/03/2011 8:14:05 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: redk
I'm sorry if watching our infantile president go on tv and practically claim he led the raid Rambo style put a damper on things for me but it did.

That's probably one reason I don't watch television. Why volunteer for an infection?

390 posted on 05/03/2011 8:15:49 AM PDT by Huck (We must have universal healthcare. -- Donald Trump.)
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To: Huck

Sadly, I agree.

I saw not one mention of BCM or BKO.

Regards, Slim


391 posted on 05/03/2011 8:16:03 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Huck

You’re exactly right, Huck. I came here to celebrate, but I closed out of FR after 20 minutes of reading garbage that belongs in the DUmpster.

I was two months from ETSing on 9/11. I was actually on CQ, reading about using the GI Bill for college, when people on their way to PT told me to turn on the TV, because a plane crashed into a skyscraper or something.

I spent most of the next ten years in Afghanistan (OEF-A), Iraq (OIF) or the Philippines (OEF-P). I couldn’t jump anymore after my knee went bad, so they shuffled me off to Ft Meade. I saw the war from a different angle, and by SOF support background lead me to some interesting assignments.

Working in Balad for TF xxx was one of them. I spent months TDY in a world I only vaguely knew even existed, representing my agency as best I could in the most fast paced, results driven operation around. It made everything I’d seen in the Army or the government before or since look like a low grade training event.

When the details of the raid started to emerge, with a 40min dwell time on target, including infil, actions on the objective, SSE, and exfil, I knew it was the real deal. “It usually takes more than three weeks to prepare a good impromptu speech.”, as Mark Twain would say. Raids that go down this fast are planned, researched and rehearsed.

I’ve been out of the game for a while, but I imagined, wearing my old analyst hat, the intense meetings, the constant liaison between three letter agencies and the conventional military, the elaborate rehearsals, the feeling in your stomach when you look up and see the words, ‘OBJ Irhabi’ on the OPS screen, and the dull sense of wonder that it’s actually happening. Watching the UAV feeds when a HAF hits the ground, you’ll miss hundreds of people forgetting to breathe for a few seconds. The disappointment of hitting a dry hole, the electric joy that hits the room when the right bad guy is bagged. The relief that none of the operators got hurt. We rode that roller coaster of emotions night after night.

It’s not the same as being on the ground yourself (another distinct set of memories), but it’s exhilarating nonetheless.

This leads me back to your point. I remember the days of Michael Rivero, black helicopters (ironically), and “Clinton ain’t leaving” after his second term. There’s always been a vein of conspiracy theory lore in the FR community.

I never took it personally until yesterday. Catching Usama bin Laden was a major achievement in the long war, and for those of us who fought in it. Possibly the biggest yet, from a psychological standpoint. That SSE takes time to process. It has to be exploited from whatever media its on, logged into the right database, analyzed and evaluated. New targets need to be generated. The cycle feeds on itself. When one bad guy falls, we pull the string and move to the next.

That’s what’s going on right now. They’re not going to stop and give a press conference because they’re busy, and even if they weren’t busy, they wouldn’t be talking.

On the other hand, the idea that the raid was staged or didn’t happen strains all credulity. You’d need to get several hundred people who largely detest the current POTUS to agree to lie to the American people on his behalf. On the contrary, JSOC has the means and the motive to prove any false statements. The information they’re currently analyzing is being concurrently disseminated to the IC as a whole, who will be able to tell if it’s not the real deal. You can’t fake accurate intelligence, any more than you could accurately guess tomorrows stock prices as part of a scam.

I understand greatly the mistrust of the President, and the desire to hold him accountable. But don’t believe his hype. It wasn’t his operation. He didn’t plan it, he wasn’t there. He just sniffed a PowerPoint presentation, and said, ‘okay, do it’. It was JSOCs mission. American military, American intelligence agencies, a win for America.

Folks may think they’re being ‘tough on Obama’ by being skeptical, but it’s not. It’s an insult to the special operations and intelligence communities who spend many years and many lives fighting your war in the shadows. It’s an insult to their integrity, that a large minority of FReepers think that so many would go along so easily with a flimsy, easily disprovable scam on the American people. It’s basically warmed over Trutherism, if you think about it.

It made yesterday a depressing, kooky day for the normally wise and patriotic Free Republic. Frustration at Obama has caused people to trade common sense and their faith in the U.S. military for a twitchy, knee-jerk paranoia, which is a pretty sad thing. Thanks for the post, Huck. Hopefully it gets some folks to take a breath and think.


392 posted on 05/03/2011 8:16:09 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: bvw

That works for me.


393 posted on 05/03/2011 8:16:17 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Hulka
I guess peaceful dissent on FR should now be viewed as a problem.

Bug difference between "peaceful dissent" and outright character assasination, which is what these two jokers engage in on a daily basis.

394 posted on 05/03/2011 8:17:28 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Huck

Instead, when I visited the site, what I found was a lot of carping. I found people focused more on the political spin than on the great news. I found people transferring their birther mentality onto this event, talking about Obama faking this news, photoshopping information, etc. It wasn’t everybody, but it was a LOT of people. It made me sick.


Ditto


395 posted on 05/03/2011 8:17:54 AM PDT by Grunthor
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To: Huck
Here are my thoughts:

I'm not sure I believe they got Usama and if they did, it's not that big of deal except for revenge.... a revenge killing. I really haven't thought about him in many years. He stopped doing his live videos, probably because he's been dead for many years. But even if he was still alive or is still alive, he's like a gelding put out to pasture. He was neutered by President Bush when he busted up his training facilities in Afghanistan.

It's hard for him have much of a following when he is hiding all the time and doesn't see anyone except a handful of confidants and his 500 wives and kids.

I will never forget 9-11 or the people that were killed and the families that suffered. HOWEVER, he didn't fly the planes into the buildings. He's was just their little guru, spiritual leader and not even that for many years. The attacks world wide have slowed down because of Bush's war on terror and new policies that he implemented along with other countries.

I believe the real master mind and planner is al-Zawahiri. If we got him would that end it? HELL NOT! Al Quaeda is a large network. Taking out Usama or al-Zawahiri is pretty much a drop in the bucket.

I find the burial at sea within hours after his 'death" very odd and I put nothing past this Halfrican, Marxist, Muslim, Bisexual usurper in the White House. NOTHING!!! Valerie and Wookie run the show there and don't ever think otherwise.

Wookie and Obongo want 4 more years where there is no pressure on them to worry about being re-elected. Think of the trips they can go on then, since ridicule will mean nothing to them. Think of what Odumbo can do in 4 years. You think the first half was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet pal. Wait until he is a lame duck president.

So IF getting Usama or lying about getting him, gets him re-elected I would choose Usama stays alive and well any ole day. He's neutered, not much of a threat, the POS in the White House is a bigger threat to this country than Usama will ever be.

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396 posted on 05/03/2011 8:19:51 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: Huck

Bump for a well=thought-out opinion. Thanks. I share some of it.


397 posted on 05/03/2011 8:20:41 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: IrishPennant

I feel the same way. Every day of my life is now filled with doubt and worry.


398 posted on 05/03/2011 8:21:08 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: Steel Wolf

Amazing post. Thanks.


399 posted on 05/03/2011 8:21:51 AM PDT by Huck (We must have universal healthcare. -- Donald Trump.)
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To: savedbygrace

Thank you very much.


400 posted on 05/03/2011 8:24:02 AM PDT by Huck (We must have universal healthcare. -- Donald Trump.)
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