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Yesterday was a sad day for Free Republic
May 3, 2011 | Huck

Posted on 05/03/2011 4:46:53 AM PDT by Huck

Yesterday should have been a glorious day around here. There should have been fireworks and celebration. There should have been somber remembrances. There should have been patriotic tributes. There should have been shared joy at the news that our guys had finally gotten Bin Laden.

Instead, when I visited the site, what I found was a lot of carping. I found people focused more on the political spin than on the great news. I found people transferring their birther mentality onto this event, talking about Obama faking this news, photoshopping information, etc. It wasn't everybody, but it was a LOT of people. It made me sick.

Yesterday Free Republic seemed like DU. It makes me wonder what the hell is going on. Are Freepers getting younger? I always assume that DU is so pathetically immature because they must be younger. Free Republic has always been a place dominated by great class, and wit, and decency. Not this time. What I saw yesterday was a pathetic embarrassment and totally unworthy of this great forum.

As some of you may know, I was in lower Manhattan on 9-11. I was just across the street from the WTC when the first plane hit. I still remember the beautiful clear blue sky that day. I remember walking in between the towers just a minute or so before 8:46am, on my normal route to work. I remember my co-workers screaming in panic when they watched from an office window as the second plane hit the south tower. I remember women crying and screaming hysterically. I remember not being able to contact my wife to tell her I was OK. I remember people jumping to their deaths. I remember seeing the north tower go down with my own eyes, hearing it with my own ears. I remember fleeing Manhattan. I remember it was a Tuesday.

I remember returning to work the following Monday, riding the ferry passed the site, noxious smoke still billowing from the wreckage. I remember armed troops on the sidewalks. I remember wearing a breathing mask inside my building because the foul odor was seeping in through the ventilation system. I remember thinking we'd really gotten kicked in the teeth. They had killed innocent people, they had traumatized our women and children, and I really wanted revenge. I hung a picture on my wall of the American eagle sharpening his talons.

It has been a long time since that day. It's hard to believe how fast time flies. Then again, if you lost your loved one, I imagine time hasn't gone so fast. I love my wife so much, I can empathize with anyone who has lost the one they love. I can't imagine how that would be, and don't want to know, but I can cry for those people because I know what it is like to find your one true love.

I'm not an Obama fan. I hate socialism. But I am so happy that Bin Laden is killed, and that we have exacted some real revenge. It's about time. The politics don't even play into it for me. I still have the little flag, now tattered, that I flew on my car antenna after 9-11. I want to take it out of storage and put it on my car. I want to see American flags on cars like we saw back then. But it's not going to happen, and partially because the normally patriotic conservatives such as the ones here on Free Republic are instead focused on the politics and the fact that a socialist Democrat was president and will get some of the credit.

I guess you all would have been pissed on D-Day too. FDR was as big a socialist as anyone. I guess VE day and VJ day would have chapped your hides, since Truman was a DEM. I don't mean to paint with a broad brush. I know it wasn't every Freeper acting this way. But when I went on the board, that was the general impression, and it was really disappointing. It should have been a great day here. Instead, I saw a lack of patriotism and a lack of class. Free Republic should be better than this. If conservatives lose their patriotism and class, then what will happen to those virtues? I hope we can get them back soon. In the meantime, thanks for reading.

Respectfully,

Huck


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To: central_va

DITTO!


401 posted on 05/03/2011 8:24:25 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: Steel Wolf

I agree. Politicians (presidents) come and go. I don’t believe the Navy Seals would sacrifice their honor by supporting a farce for some politician.....


402 posted on 05/03/2011 8:24:26 AM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: central_va

I am a scientist, trained in Cell and Molecular Biology, currently working in the field of Pharmacokinetics.

Before I went to graduate school I worked for a year as a DNA analyst for a company doing DNA ID work for Virginia to get all convicted felons DNA ID into the federal CODIS database. That was about 10 years ago.

I thought of starting a thread with that info, but figured...

those that want to know will find out, and I posted this on any thread I saw that mentioned DNA testing.

those that don’t want to know just get angry when accurate information conflicts with their complex conspiracy theories.


403 posted on 05/03/2011 8:24:46 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: mojitojoe

Wow, I totally agree with your post. Most excellent....uh, except for the photo. LOL


404 posted on 05/03/2011 8:25:18 AM PDT by dforest
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To: mojitojoe
This seems to veer close to the whispered opinions of lefties who were upset that the March/April 2003 invasion of Iraq went so well because it would help Bush in his reelection campaign and encourage more military adventurism overseas. In the end, winning would cost more American lives. That was their logic, anyway.

I remember thinking at the time that if you ever find yourself rooting against a U.S. military success, you're on the wrong side of that issue. Is your opinion really any different?

Sorry, but as much as I want this marxist out of the White House myself, I can't root against a U.S. military success, which this unquestionably was.

405 posted on 05/03/2011 8:26:12 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: mojitojoe
This seems to veer close to the whispered opinions of lefties who were upset that the March/April 2003 invasion of Iraq went so well because it would help Bush in his reelection campaign and encourage more military adventurism overseas. In the end, winning would cost more American lives. That was their logic, anyway.

I remember thinking at the time that if you ever find yourself rooting against a U.S. military success, you're on the wrong side of that issue. Is your opinion really any different?

Sorry, but as much as I want this marxist out of the White House myself, I can't root against a U.S. military success, which this unquestionably was.

406 posted on 05/03/2011 8:26:22 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Huck
Thanks very much for posting that. Conservatives are supposed to stand for principle. Now, it seems too many just stand for political expediency, making whatever tortured arguments are necessary to support the political result they desire.
407 posted on 05/03/2011 8:30:19 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: bvw

North Africa.


408 posted on 05/03/2011 8:30:26 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Steel Wolf
It’s an insult to their integrity, that a large minority of FReepers think that so many would go along so easily with a flimsy, easily disprovable scam on the American people.

A "large minority"???

You've done the math? Show us your work.

And, just to add a little fun to the exercise, specify which FReeper you put into each category.

If necessary, start a new thread so this one doesn't get hijacked.

409 posted on 05/03/2011 8:30:29 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Steel Wolf

Holy crap, that’s an awesome post. Those who are scanning this thread, please read it.


410 posted on 05/03/2011 8:31:32 AM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar!)
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To: Steel Wolf
Folks may think they’re being ‘tough on Obama’ by being skeptical, but it’s not. It’s an insult to the special operations and intelligence communities who spend many years and many lives fighting your war in the shadows. It’s an insult to their integrity, that a large minority of FReepers think that so many would go along so easily with a flimsy, easily disprovable scam on the American people. It’s basically warmed over Trutherism, if you think about it.

Well said Wolf. Very well said.

411 posted on 05/03/2011 8:32:42 AM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Huck
Huck,

On the one hand, I agree with much of your post. I am also very glad that OBL is gone. I am grateful to our intelligence agencies, our special forces, and even to the agency heads and Presidents who accomplished this.

However, Obama's statement, and the timing of the release of this information, was entirely political, and it was all about Obama taking credit for everything. He did take some political risks doing this action rather than using a JDAM or a drone attack and leveling the compound without ever knowing for sure if we got the target, or even who the target really was.

At no time in his statement did Obama say anything to share credit for this. There was no, "the previous administration started this, laid the foundation in intelligence and my administration was able to build on it and complete the mission." Obama's statement was all "I ... me .... I ...." According to the media (AKA the Democrat Party Propaganda Ministry), Bush couldn't get this done, and Obama did it all. That's not the truth, it's not the whole truth. That dishonest presentation divides the country, it doesn't unite.

Just compare Obama's statement to the statement from Bush, for example after Sadam Husein was captured. Bush never claimed full credit for the whole operation. Bush always focused any praise on the troops, and sometimes on the folks within his administration that made it happen, and on our United States as a whole. Bush made it a victory for everyone. Obama claimed OBL's demise as a victory for himself. That difference in focus is a big part of the problem.

On top of that, timing the announcement to preempt Trump's show, "Celebrity Apprentice," on Sunday night looked very petty. Obama and his handlers have had an obsession with derailing Trump in the past couple weeks. They showed this again with their "announcement" of this action.

A true leader and uniter would have done things differently. First, the announcement would have been made at the time that "proof" was released (pictures, DNA results, etc. Possibly to include making the body available for inspection and verification by any who might question the identification). And the announcement would have either been made more immediately (closer to the time of the actual action), and planned as part of the entire action, or later, when all questions could be answered and all proof could be presented. Finally, credit would have been shared with all involved, even those who preceded the current regime whose work contributed to the action. A leader would share credit with the entire team, and the entire country, not try to focus all the credit and praise on himself.

Just my observations.

412 posted on 05/03/2011 8:32:56 AM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: Huck

from the response here, I’d say that it seems the negative oens are mostly a very vocal minority here.

It seems most of us agree with you.


413 posted on 05/03/2011 8:35:04 AM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: Huck

It’s a rarity for me to post anything in the last bunch of years as the increase in the exclusive world of political discourse has reduced FR’s interest in morality (and the betterment of our once celebrated world standing as a nation) to a simple discussion of “who benefits from what”.

So to say you are surprised that we didn’t have a celebration, is only to attune yourself to the lies we need to weed through on a min to min basis.


414 posted on 05/03/2011 8:35:16 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: Steel Wolf

Thank you for your service, and thank you as well for that great post. And unfortunately, the carping by conservatives wasn’t limited just to those who post on FR.


415 posted on 05/03/2011 8:35:36 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Sir Gawain

In the FR “early days”, VANITIES were not allowed, sniveling lectures are unseemly....and counterproductive.


416 posted on 05/03/2011 8:36:48 AM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: Theophilus

Right. That’s the way it has to be for covert operations. It’s the nature of the beast. I’m not saying that they are doing anything out of the normal for this operation. The nature of the beast means that we will not hear first-story accounts from the people who did it.

I don’t believe that this is a faked episode but if it was we would not hear the actual participants calling out the leaders as lying about it, because they are sworn to secrecy. It’s the same reason that Janice Okubo has said nobody in their office could tell anybody - not even law enforcement - if Obama posted a forgery. They’re sworn to secrecy. Just like Obama is hiding behind supposed secrecy requirements for the HDOH, he could hide behind the secrecy requirements for the Seals. I don’t believe that is what he is doing, but I think that people need to realize that this great accountability that we trust to keep the leaders in line IS NOT THERE to the degree we think it is.

There are so many things that we cannot know, cannot see first-hand. This is why it is so critical that we trust the people who CAN see things first-hand and report it to us. Trust makes all the difference in the world. Trust is the difference between the day before the Sept 2008 run on the bank and the day after. Trust is the difference between a banana republic’s law enforcement and a non-banana republic’s. Trust is what makes the rape of a child such a horrendous thing; it is such a gross violation of trust.

Those who say that eligibility is a technicality don’t understand the basic nature of relationship and of society. He who is faithful in a little will be faithful in a lot. If this guy will forge a birth certificate, what else will he lie about? To be CINC means he has access to a lot of secrets that the rest of us can’t know; we have to just trust that he is looking out for our interests. He is driving us across the tightwire and all we can do is trust him. That is a scary, scary thing, when he has been so willing to break laws and lie in such a visible, documentable way.

I hope and pray that everybody is realizing why the Founders required the POTUS to have unimpeachable, undivided loyalty to this country.


417 posted on 05/03/2011 8:37:13 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: just me

Maybe we ought to say to the Obamaists, “We will wait until we verify,” not, “Trust but verify.”


418 posted on 05/03/2011 8:38:08 AM PDT by Buddygirl
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To: butterdezillion

“We’ve already had one photoshopped photo of a dead Osama.”

True. And did you see the link in post 250?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54162.html

So. In less than 48 hours we see conflicts and contradictions to the official White House “story.”

And people ricidule us because we don’t swallow the White House/MSM versions du jour?

(Changing tagline)


419 posted on 05/03/2011 8:39:02 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I'm a Birther - And a Deather)
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To: Mr Rogers

Therefore.......

Finish your thought.

Since you can never convince people who want to believe otherwise.......

Finish it.


420 posted on 05/03/2011 8:39:53 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Did you have bozos and yahoos yelling all day long at you when you exposed the Rathergate memo? At the time, I’m sure there must have been some who called you a conspiracy nut with your tin-foil hat on a little too tight, and things like that.”

No. There were some who were dubious, but they were eventually persuaded because the evidence from all quarters was overwhelming. But that is not the point.

All things change, including FR. Huck’s observations are validated by the large number of concurring posts on this thread. It is what it is.


421 posted on 05/03/2011 8:39:56 AM PDT by Buckhead
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To: roses of sharon
In the FR “early days”, VANITIES were not allowed, sniveling lectures are unseemly....and counterproductive.

LOL WHAT? That's not accurate at all. FR was like the wild west back then. The forum is completely tame compared to the early days.

422 posted on 05/03/2011 8:40:40 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Huck; All

Very good thoughts. I am embarrassed that I let loose in an F-laden tirade yesterday against somebody that was doing just what you say....saying Obama conspiracy, even questioning if the guy with the USA shirt at the Phillies game was an Obama plant sent by the WH.

My reaction was not appropriate, but I was outraged and honestly shocked at how many Freepers reacted.

I don’t care who the president is...yesterday was a good day for America.

A great day for America. It made me proud.

Free Republic? No.


423 posted on 05/03/2011 8:40:48 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Huck

Then I guess you won’t like this if you read it:

http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2011/05/another-obama-fabrication.html


424 posted on 05/03/2011 8:40:51 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: Huck
I felt compelled to add this keyword: 1stpersonpronounping

Is there a ping list for excessive use of 1st person pronouns?

Wow, you hung a poster and flew a flag. I'm overwhelmed by your personal sacrifice for our nation.

425 posted on 05/03/2011 8:41:05 AM PDT by matt1234 (Dreams from My Father II: Alien Sex Files)
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To: Buckhead

Thank you.


426 posted on 05/03/2011 8:41:56 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I'm a Birther - And a Deather)
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To: Crim
No one likes a finger wagger....

He says, wagging his finger. lol.

427 posted on 05/03/2011 8:43:13 AM PDT by Huck (We must have universal healthcare. -- Donald Trump.)
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To: aruanan

I don’t like the waiting four months part either, but they were preparing, too. I think they wanted to make darn sure he would not slip away.

I imagine they had a drone watching him the entire time ready to take him out that way if he tried to run.

That’s my hope, anyway.


428 posted on 05/03/2011 8:44:10 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Huck

I agree with you, but don’t make it an opus.

Frankly, we are living in times that many of us could not have conceived of even in the 1980’s. People are on the brink of calling BS on a rigged game.

Getting UBL restores a lot of credibility in our military and our intelligence community, but our basic congressional and executive leadership is in horrible shape.

My point of optimism from getting UBL came from the fact that Obama green lit the op. That’s not an insignificant act if one reflects on the fecklessness of his actions with the Somali pirate incident early in his admin.

I feel safer today, and I feel like our intelligence and military’s plan - instituted by President Bush - worked, and continues to work.

I’ll go further. I think Hillary Clinton shoved Obama against the wall and basically said, “Your signature or your balls on this op order.” She’s been a hawk, and I think she’s getting an education of a lifetime. This op very clearly could have gone the way of Carter’s Iranian hostage rescue attempt, which would have sealed Obama’s fate forever.

MAYBE there’s some sort of logic in operation in government that recognizes that the status quo must change, that this isn’t a game, and that we have more in common as citizens of this great nation than we have in dispute.

What we have in dispute, however, is all the difference, and we can no longer compromise on our position on those things. It’s amazing to say that the margin for compromise is gone, but it is.

The US’s debt rating should be BBB at least. It isn’t. Our kids won’t recognize the place. Canada’s a cold place, but it’s looking good right now. If that basket of leftist loonies can turn it around up there, maybe we can down here.

Huck, we’re at the point where we should overthrow our government, but not at the point where an individual can pull the trigger to kill their own rep. Sorry, but that’s where I see it. Maybe you’re seeing a bit of that, and it needs to be cranked in to the calculus and tenor of the posts.

Lastly, guys like you provide the control rods in the reactor, as it were. I hope it gets better, but I really don’t know if it will. I listen to suggestions of China becoming the new world leader and I laugh. Only perspective and a study of history can allow someone to take such statements for what they are.

Around the world, people are contemplating a world without subsidized national defense, courtesy of the US. Socialist governments are the biggest beneficiaries, and witness their carping to the free ride they’ve been getting for the last sixty years. It’s what kept people do - complain.

Now that Pax Americana is in question, people everywhere are considering a world without the GI and the American Taxpayer.

We’ll see what happens.


429 posted on 05/03/2011 8:45:09 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: mojitojoe
I believe the real master mind and planner is al-Zawahiri.

I tend to agree with most of what you said, however Al-Zawahiri is the big fish. He is the founder of the moslem brotherhood and operational commander of Al-qaeda. I will posit one disturbing observation. Obama has been very supportive of the moslem brotherhood by his actions in Egypt and other countries. There is also indications he has allowed sympathizers into his inner circle. There should never have been an admission that they killed Bin Laden. The unknown was a tool that was lost in the fight against al-qaeda by releasing this information. Was it campaigning on the Os part or something much more insidious?
430 posted on 05/03/2011 8:45:28 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Huck

Ditto


431 posted on 05/03/2011 8:45:34 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: paulycy

A conspiracy theory is an attempt to explain an event by hypothesizing that the event was caused by a group operating behind the scenes.

There have been innumerable threads on FreeRepublic. A partial list of the more significant subjects would include Mena, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Truthers, Birthers, various Elections, Waco, OKC Bombing, Timothy McVeigh, Flight 800, Y2K, etc.

Any large group will include a fairly significant percentage that shares a belief that some critical event was caused/covered up by a secret group. Some studies have indicated that the percentage is fairly constant across the political spectrum. Only subject and details of the conspiracy vary. Rather interestingly, the belief in conspiracy theories tends to be positively correlated to education.

For example, when Clinton (or Obama) was/is President, a significant percentage of the right believes they are out to destroy the country, dismantle the constitution, and out to dominate the world. A very similar percentage of the left believed that Bush41 was out to destroy the country, dismantle the constitution, and dominate the world. BTW, this paragraph should not be construed to read that I believe or disbelieve either of these, only that I find it fascinating that both the left and the right and in similar numbers believe the same things about each other.

If you want to do some research or verify some of the above, try reading “Voodoo Histories: The Role of the Conspiracy Theory in Shaping Modern History” by David Aaronovitch.


432 posted on 05/03/2011 8:47:00 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: Steel Wolf

A sign of a strong and free republic is vigorous debate Stell Wolf. Only dictatorships is where everyone gets along.

You are not the only freeper that has military service here. There are many of us on free republic that have military service too. Some freepers even are from the intelligence agencies. At any rate, I do not see anyone bashing the military. They are bashing the political leadership that uses our wonderful military for political gain.

Like you I am happy they finally got OBL. At the very same time I’m not happy that Obama has known where OBL was since last August. Why was he waiting? Furthermore, the fact that OBL lived there for 6 years is even more disturbing about why we did not know this. It leads to A LOT of tough questions.

It just seems to me that the ONLY reason why OBL is dead today is because Trump basing Obama on this issue. Trump was challenging Obama’s loyalty (that is at the root of the birth issue and going after OBL). This action was done within days of the re release of the long form Certificate of Live Birth too. In other words it looks VERY political and it’s why so many people on here are upset.


433 posted on 05/03/2011 8:47:25 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Mr Rogers

The fact that everybody in Germany could have smelled the burning flesh is proof that Auschwitz never happened.

That’s your logic, in a nutshell.


434 posted on 05/03/2011 8:47:43 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Sir Gawain

Sure the comments were not tame at all....but when I joined, VANITIES were not allowed.

Especially in the “news” forum.

Clicking on a thread you think is a news headline, and turns out to be just another Freeper lecturing how awful FR has become, is not my thing.

It is a bore. Take it to management.


435 posted on 05/03/2011 8:47:51 AM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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To: Huck

Let me put this another way. There is mistrust surrounding Obama. He is a radical liar. PERIOD. But as far as conspiracy about Obama Bin Laden being really dead is foolish. The DNC and possibly a hack Hawaii Gov. may lie for Obama but the US military and Seal team operations cannot lie.So your vanity post is baseless. If a few posted on this forum they do not believe OBL is dead they were flamed and told how stupid they were.

So OBL is dead. Obama is such a pathetic CIC and leader to release OBL’s photo today to prove he is dead. It is obvious he saw his polls didn’t bounce up in his favor and he some how thinks proving OBL is dead will? The MSM can pin a purple star on Obama with BaBa Wawa until they are freaking purple in the face. America is awake. Obama cannot fool all of the people all of the time even with the media lying and covering for him.


436 posted on 05/03/2011 8:48:25 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: saganite

Didn’t mean to say “bye” to you!


437 posted on 05/03/2011 8:49:33 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Huck

Applause.


438 posted on 05/03/2011 8:49:47 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: Huck; LucyT; Candor7

An assassination is carried out to exterminate a high profile target for military gain. A murder is carried out when it is a matter of Obama’s political gain due to the Birther issue being proved now in Mr. Obama is a criminal.

The blow fly eyes of Obama are repulsive as he announced this, in his relishing the death. I do not know one normal human being who would watch people having their heads blown off and then go on television hours later with a gleam in their eye reliving it all like a Ted Bundy mass murderer.
Yet this is Barack Hussein Obama.

In all of this, the Muslim mind will hear the following that Sheik bin Laden was with his family, did not fight back, his wife heroically tried to protect him, he was going to surrender as he never fired his weapon, and in turn the Obama regime murdered him..............

.........and the case being Obama deposed of the body immediately, the world will never know if Sheik bin Laden was dead years ago, months ago or days ago and this was all just something more in the 2 million dollar scheme to hide Obama’s birth status as a foreigner.

I personally am distraught over this as it is one thing for a Marine Sniper to assassinate a French pedophile who is about to torture captured Americans in Vietnam. It is another to make United States Soldiers die in Afghanistan under ‘rules of engagement” in which a terrorist must fire on Soldiers before they can fire.........and Obama violates his own rules and shoots the terrorist bin Laden down in cold blood.

Who is going to charge Obama in the JAG for violating his own war rules?

This was pure murder and is typical of the Obama regime. He has now so completely undone Ronald Reagan’s moral high ground that the Muslim terrorists now have the moral high ground.

Obama is the one murdering Khadaffi’s children for oil. Obama is the one murdering bin Laden for political cover.

The reality of what Barack Obama carried out and the WMD terror backlash should have Americans and the Western peoples in a furor. This is thee most unAmerican of acts ever in history.

The moral high ground is gone for America which Ronald Reagan established and George W. Bush maintained in this terror war. Barack Hussein Obama in his incessant murders is making terrorists superior to American beliefs.

http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2011/05/giving-terrorists-moral-high-ground.html


439 posted on 05/03/2011 8:50:25 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: roses of sharon

I would remind you that sniveling in defense of liberty is no vice!


440 posted on 05/03/2011 8:52:37 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Steel Wolf

Great post, thank you!! I believe our guys got OBL, I didn’t doubt it because I knew so many military people and others had to be involved it would be impossible for the President to manufacture it.

Do I believe every word of the story? All important events have more than one story that comes out, especially in the beginning. I think that is more evidence of our sorry media that doesn’t do their job anymore than it points to conspiracy. Parts of the story will never be told or will be changed, likely to protect operational methods or to keep from disclosing names of those involved to protect them and their families. That is as it should be, we don’t need to know everything.

I understand the distrust for our current President, but in this case to think he made it up for political reasons is to believe large numbers of good men and women would go along with him. It would take a lot of hard evidence to ever convince me of that.


441 posted on 05/03/2011 8:52:58 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: mojitojoe

Agreed in Spades Joe.


442 posted on 05/03/2011 8:53:11 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Huck
We have a saying in my family, "Don't should on me and I won't should on you."

You don't know dick about what others should or should not be doing or saying. There is a real world where the word should doesn't exist. I'm glad you're in touch with your feelings, Huck, but I'm not interested in what they are.

More than 90 percent of what Zero says is a lie. Could be as high as 99 percent. He says anything; I instantly disbelieve him. He has not, in any way, earned my trust.

So, when he comes out with a BS story about the death of his buddy Osama, I'm amazed any freeper would give it any credence. I didn't talk to anybody yesterday that believed it. Even the lady at the checkout line at the grocery store said it was a bunch of crap. America has begun to wise up to this anti-American POS. I expect freepers to lead the charge.

I agree there are too many liberals and Republicans on FreeRepublic now. Too many people trying to make nice-nice. In case you haven't noticed, this country is under severe attack. No one has declared it, but we are at war. With people who don't fight fair.

I hope you really don't like this post.

443 posted on 05/03/2011 8:54:48 AM PDT by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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To: Huck
You are not wrong Huck. I posted a few pix of the crowds in front of the Whitehouse. The responses were 'astroturf' or 'feeling uneasy' about the images. I would have posted a lot more but i've had the flu since Friday.


444 posted on 05/03/2011 8:55:42 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Huck
Took time from my increasingly busy days to read this entire thread. There is almost nothing that comes from this regime that I do not filter through a very skeptical prism. Is Osama dead? Perhaps. Is the account of claimed death verifiable by reliable sources? ETC. The first version of the take down was on FOX and the story was that a week earlier OBL was killed, DNAd, and now ready for the public to be informed. Next morning the whole story changed and now we have a shoot of Obama and Hillary and other VIPs in a room watching the raid as it takes place. Or so it is implied when in fact that whole audience could have been watching a video of the action as the first report of it happening a week earlier. Truth is buried in the parsing, a word made popular by an earlier liar in chief, Bill Clinton. There are so many good responses to your vanity that explore and explain the total lack of belief in the govt speak of this administration that I cannot think of anything that one or another poster has not covered. Obama is due no credit for anything as I see it. He let others do the heavy lifting and then gives the media a reason to pump up his flailing presidency by taking credit for killing Osama. The military did the job and total credit goes to those heros and that is what made my day. We still have the finest military in the world and those brave men and women are why this Republic is still free.
445 posted on 05/03/2011 8:56:47 AM PDT by mountainfolk (God Bless the United States of America)
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To: Huck

Huch, Go home amd take a pill. When you can think straight then take another look.

I do not believe OBL is dead. And for good reason.THe body was disposed of without independent forensic identification by NATO allies. WHY?

Simple. The man killed was not OBL.Oh yes, the SEALS undountedly thought it was, but it was a back door Obama/Pakistam Intel set up...staged.


446 posted on 05/03/2011 8:57:22 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: mojitojoe
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447 posted on 05/03/2011 8:57:48 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Why do people try to "out-nice" Jesus?)
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To: laweeks
In fact, everybody in that room photo where Obozo was wearing his golfing outfit hates the military with a passion.

Since the picture included a general, an admiral, and the secretary of defense, that seems unlikely.

448 posted on 05/03/2011 8:57:48 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Do Be
"I hope you really don't like this post."

So in your ideal world, he shouldn't like it?

449 posted on 05/03/2011 8:58:53 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Luke21; Huck; LucyT; Las Vegas Ron; Candor7; manc; rodguy911; onyx; little jeremiah; MHGinTN; ...

Good catch. Checked out the past posting history. Member since 2000 and only a few dozen posts over an 11 year period. I’ll 2nd that concern troll remark you made.


450 posted on 05/03/2011 8:59:57 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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