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Justice, American Style: Was Bin Laden's Killing Legal?
DER SPIEGEL ^ | May 3, 2011 | Thomas Darnstädt

Posted on 05/03/2011 9:03:22 AM PDT by presidio9

US President Barack Obama gets precious few opportunities to announce a victory. So it's no wonder he chose grand words on Sunday night as the TV crews' spotlights shone upon him and he informed the nation about the deadly strike against Osama bin Laden. "Justice has been done," he said.

It may be that this sentence comes back to haunt him in the years to come. What is just about killing a feared terrorist in his home in the middle of Pakistan? For the families of the victims of the 9/11 attacks, and for patriotic Americans who saw their grand nation challenged by a band of criminals, the answer might be simple. But international law experts, who have been grappling with the question of the legal status of the US-led war on terror for years, find Obama's pithy words on Sunday night more problematic.

Claus Kress, an international law professor at the University of Cologne, argues that achieving retributive justice for crimes, difficult as that may be, is "not achieved through summary executions, but through a punishment that is meted out at the end of a trial." Kress says the normal way of handling a man who is sought globally for commissioning murder would be to arrest him, put him on trial and ultimately convict him. In the context of international law, military force can be used in the arrest of a suspect, and this may entail gun fire or situations of self-defense that, in the end, leave no other possibility than to

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: presidio9

Well at least we will not have to worry about holder deciding that he was one of his people and sweeping the whole thing under the rug.


61 posted on 05/03/2011 9:29:00 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Palter
"Side topic. That got in trouble because they suck., ie used their own credit cards. Not because of any leak. "

Yes, that's a fair point. They only - really - have their own incompetence to blame.

In this instance, I'm not worried about the SEALs doing something stupid, but I am worried about this administration doing something stupid.

62 posted on 05/03/2011 9:29:34 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: brownsfan

“Do not kill, do not rape, do not steal, these are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. These are not polite suggestions — these are codes of behavior. And those of you that ignore them will pay the dearest cost.

There are varying degrees of evil, we urge you lesser forms of filth not to push the bounds and cross over into true corruption, into our domain. But if you do, one day you will look behind you and you will see we three and on that day you will reap it. And we will send you to which ever god you wish.”


63 posted on 05/03/2011 9:29:40 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: presidio9

It probably wasn’t legal.

Bin Laden was unarmed, as they are now saying. He was not a combatant. He was in Pakistan, the government of which says they never gave permission for the mission. There really isn’t a declared war with any state here.

Obama is a war crminal. Try him at the Hague.

No blood for a poll bump.


64 posted on 05/03/2011 9:29:52 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (We would all be better off if the federal government just decided to end itself.)
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To: presidio9

Truthers should be outraged that their man in DC just killed an innocent man.


65 posted on 05/03/2011 9:30:11 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: presidio9

I have two words for Thomas Dahmstadt,
UP YOURS!!!


66 posted on 05/03/2011 9:31:24 AM PDT by certrtwngnut
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To: brownsfan

Oh no you didn’t


67 posted on 05/03/2011 9:32:39 AM PDT by sigzero
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To: fireman15
hope that Osama actually is still alive and having every ounce of information sucked from him using the most barbaric means imaginable. That would make more sense. A bullet in the brain is basically painless; and his followers will believe he died with his boots on. Stupid!

There are parts of the story "they" are not telling us, of course. You can figure some of them out, by what seems totally out of character for a Navy SEAL team. Like bugging out with surviving enemy combatants still in the compound and only taking UBL's corpse. Of course they took the two "couriers," and probably anybody else they thought might know how UBL liked his cornflakes. I'm also hoping that we buried a sack of potatoes in the Indian Ocean, and will be keeping UBL's body in the "Raiders of the Lost Ark" warehouse, "just in case."

68 posted on 05/03/2011 9:32:51 AM PDT by presidio9 ("Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask rather what you can do for your country." -Cicero)
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To: OldDeckHand
Indeed. I don't want the whole dam world to know our sources and methods on tracking down OBL. But, every time I turn on the radio and TV, some technocrat is talking about it.
69 posted on 05/03/2011 9:33:03 AM PDT by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: presidio9
Claus Kress, an international law professor at the University of ...

...and that's as far as I got.

70 posted on 05/03/2011 9:33:19 AM PDT by pigsmith
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To: presidio9

War is not aged to determine who is right. War is waged to determine who is left.


71 posted on 05/03/2011 9:33:25 AM PDT by IamConservative (Political power; the most evil thing devised by man. It corrupts morals and judgment.)
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To: PAMadMax

Would seem so. While I understand there are few left in Germany that had anything to do with The Third Reich, it’s only because of this nation they’re now able to express this new outlook.


72 posted on 05/03/2011 9:33:54 AM PDT by edpc (Tagline under construction: Your American Recovery and Reinvestment Act dollars at work.)
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To: presidio9

Obama = War Criminal

Start the impeachment immediately if not sooner.


73 posted on 05/03/2011 9:34:07 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: presidio9

Just as I predicted. The FReepers are defending their War President. Why don’t you all go sign up for Organizing for America.

Why exactly are you defending Obama? The federal government breaks laws, acts immorally, and breaks the customs of common decency against Americans on a daily basis. So easy to manipulate you people.


74 posted on 05/03/2011 9:35:23 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (We would all be better off if the federal government just decided to end itself.)
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To: skeeter

Liberals are immune from the standards they impose on others. It’s illegal to kill “innocent civilians”, unless you’re a liberal President in need of a boost in the polls. See also: Clinton and his “wag the dog” moment.


75 posted on 05/03/2011 9:38:41 AM PDT by littleharbour
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To: fireman15
This whole spectacle is a political stunt. We have known his location for months if not years. His compound most certainly has been under surveylance in every imaginable way for intelligence gathering. Obama made the decision to cash in his political chips now probably because of sagging poll numbers.

THIS. Notice that there aren't too many people talking about Birth Certificates, college transcripts or $5 gas anymore.

76 posted on 05/03/2011 9:41:13 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: MichiganConservative

George Bush had Saddam handed over for trial.

In WWII, there was a trial for Nazi war criminals.

This is the way of the leftis with their fetish for “black ops”.

They just wish they could use it on you.

We didn’t send SEAL teams to assassinate escaped Nazis in Argentina.

UBL should have been apprehended, especially since he did not shoot or use a human shield, and brought to the US for trial, then hanged.

That’s how civilized people do it.


77 posted on 05/03/2011 9:44:00 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (We would all be better off if the federal government just decided to end itself.)
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To: IamConservative

War is not aged to determine who is right

"We will sell no war, before its time..."

78 posted on 05/03/2011 9:44:50 AM PDT by presidio9 ("Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask rather what you can do for your country." -Cicero)
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To: MichiganConservative
This is the way of the leftis with their fetish for “black ops”.

Clearer:

This way Osama was dispatched is the way of the leftist with their fetish for “black ops”.

79 posted on 05/03/2011 9:46:13 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (We would all be better off if the federal government just decided to end itself.)
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To: presidio9

Who cares if it’s legal? Would we be worried if someone killed Hitler “illegally” during WWII?


80 posted on 05/03/2011 9:48:10 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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