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WHITE HOUSE: WE AREN'T RELEASING A BIN LADEN PHOTO
http://twitter.com/#!/chucktodd ^ | May 4, 2011 | White House / Chuck Todd

Posted on 05/04/2011 10:34:25 AM PDT by library user

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To: AmericanInTokyo
Ex-Justice Department Official: Obama Could Be Forced to Release the Osama Death Photos

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According to Daniel Metcalfe, the former chief of the Department of Justice's Office of Information and Privacy—a post that effectively made him the government's top expert in the Freedom of Information Act—the odds are better than even that a FOIA lawsuit seeking the photo's release would succeed.

"If someone brought a FOIA complaint seeking the photo, and the government had improperly classified it, I think the government would lose," Metcalfe, who supervised the defense of more than 500 FOIA and Privacy Act lawsuits for the U.S., told Gawker. He is now the executive director of the Collaboration on Government Secrecy at American University's Washington College of Law.

Under the FOIA, government agencies—but not the White House itself—can be compelled to turn over any document, photo, video, or other record as long as there's no statutory reason for withholding it. If Obama decides against releasing a bin Laden photo, he faces two obstacles to keeping it secret: 1) Since it was (presumably) taken by a Navy SEAL working on a joint mission of the CIA and Department of Defense's Joint Special Operations Command, it was originated by a federal agency subject to the FOIA and 2) There doesn't appear to be a good reason under the FOIA to keep it secret.

"As far as photos of the corpse go," said Kel McClanahan, the executive director of National Security Counselors, a law firm specializing in litigating secrecy issues, "there's nothing I can reasonably think of that would exempt that, unless someone classified them." The government could conceivably try to deny a FOIA request for the photos based on the statute's privacy exemptions, but that would put it in the awkward position of going to court to protect Osama bin Laden's surviving family members' privacy.

Read this story at gawker.com ...

301 posted on 05/04/2011 12:56:28 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I don't care about seeing the shock on Obama's face. SHOW US THE SHOCK ON OSAMA'S FACE!)
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To: savedbygrace

My thoughts exactly. This whole story reeks of complete BS. Aru Gharib photos are OK but not the biggest POS on the planet with a bullet in his skull? Yeah ok


302 posted on 05/04/2011 12:59:02 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Do or do not... there is no try)
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To: Batman11

At least Bush had the nerve to show Saddams pics!


303 posted on 05/04/2011 1:01:19 PM PDT by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd ,you get no further than the crowd!")
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To: tcrlaf

Is there a statement issued by the Seals? Has any eyewitness given a statement to his killing? I’m not a conspiracy theorist AT ALL, but this POS in the White House makes me question everything. And I wouldn’t put it past him to play games with the facts if they help his political prospects. Besides the photo issue, there are a rash of problems and inconsistencies in the story, least of which is: “A helicopter crashes on the approach to the compound, close enough to end up straddling one of the interior walls. The noise of the crash would have alerted the occupants that they were coming for the AlQueda POS. At that point, Osama would immediately do one of two things: Grab a weapon and go out with guns blazing or have himself killed (or pop himself off) to avoid being taken alive. Since the current version of the kill is that he was unarmed, neither scenario fits. If he was fighting when killed, he’d be armed. If he had been killed by the Seals unarmed that makes no sense either. Except for one possibility: suicide by Seals? That doesn’t really make sense for the kind of fanatic this guy was.

So, bottom line, something’s not adding up. And no, I’m not saying anything to impugn the integrity of those incredible heros who carried out their mission. I just believe that their so-called commander in chief is quite capable of exploiting them to his own ends.


304 posted on 05/04/2011 1:02:41 PM PDT by JewishRighter ( Multiculturalism is killing us.)
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To: SVTCobra03

LOL...


305 posted on 05/04/2011 1:04:42 PM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: tcrlaf

He will be greeting at Walmart part-time as well.

Obama has a strange gift of going against the American people on almost every major issue.

This will backfire on him. He will do his usual routine. Go against the will of the people, then cave after the pressure is on.


306 posted on 05/04/2011 1:05:04 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Belle22

Apologies if this point has already been made in the thread, but if the US government can release post-assassination photos of President Kennedy, then the “too gruesome” excuse is bogus. This is all about appeasing the crazy mos. Does anyone really believe that those who seek American blood because of the death of Bin Laden are going to require the additional motivation of death photos?


307 posted on 05/04/2011 1:07:22 PM PDT by littleharbour
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To: library user

Osama may or may not be dead.


308 posted on 05/04/2011 1:08:36 PM PDT by Redalways
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To: library user
“Imagine how the American people would react if Al Qaida killed one of our troops or military leaders, and put photos of the body on the internet,” he continued. “

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Where the bloody blue blazes has this yutz been living for the past 10 years? Under an effing rock?? Which photos would you like to start with, president jackwagon? Clueless, stupid, inept...aargh! There aren't enough adjectives.

309 posted on 05/04/2011 1:08:48 PM PDT by greatplains
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To: library user

He’s definitely in Bialarussia, being waterboarded ‘til he spills the beans on Al Qaeda.


310 posted on 05/04/2011 1:10:36 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Sacajaweau

The Muzzies are perennially offended. If you don’t offend them, they take offense at not having anything to be offended by. You beat them, you have to show you’re in charge by deliberately offending them. Otherwise, they think they’re the real victors.


311 posted on 05/04/2011 1:13:04 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

I think Obama should be waterboarded until he spills the beans on al qaeda.


312 posted on 05/04/2011 1:13:08 PM PDT by littleharbour
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To: ken5050

I knew they were good for something. Anytime you want to see a bullet-riddled corpse, just call Wikileaks.


313 posted on 05/04/2011 1:14:29 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Still scratching my head as to how these amateurs lobotomized 53% of the 2008 voters.

A high school civics class picked at random would get more right than Jarrett, Obama & Carney.

However, a family member/firefighter critical of Obama came on Fox before the presser to say that he was not invited to Ground Zero and that like-minded family members were also not invited.


315 posted on 05/04/2011 1:17:57 PM PDT by Belle22
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To: library user
This is an enormously wrong-headed blunder by the Obama
administration.

All in the name of political correctness and a**kissing Islamic radicals.

This will dog Obama far worse than the "birther" issue.

316 posted on 05/04/2011 1:19:01 PM PDT by Chaffer
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To: Eleutheria5
Forget about the pictures. We can't trust them anyway. As a few posters have said this guy will avoid the issue like he did with his BC till it's time for a bump in the polls and then release something that will show the death of someone at the hands of a U.S. serviceman( or a look alike). He will show a burial at sea and who's to say it's a fake when most of the sailors saw just a white sheet dropped into the sea. Do not let this turn into any ammunition the left can use. Remember Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice, shame on me
317 posted on 05/04/2011 1:19:52 PM PDT by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin)
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To: angelcindy

Rummy told the Friends this a.m. that it was the Iraqi Govt. who released Saddam’s photos...the Defense Dept. released the ones of the dead sons. Rummy also didn’t think it was wise to release the pics.


318 posted on 05/04/2011 1:20:22 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Sleeping Freeper
The most TRANSPARENT administration ever...blah, blah, blah... The Failed Obama Administration©
319 posted on 05/04/2011 1:22:57 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: library user

Hey Obama.. Prove to us Osama didn’t really die of kidney disease in 2001.. Show us the pictures!


320 posted on 05/04/2011 1:23:27 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth
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To: All

I think the credibility of the USN is Enough!

This need not become political!
Credit to the Navy Seals and All Government agencies for a job well done is in order.
Nothing more nothing less!


321 posted on 05/04/2011 1:23:49 PM PDT by Conserev1
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To: Diogenesis

(photos of tragic souls jumping from the towers)

Exactly.
Like I said elsewhere, thought/hoped we’d drop UBL live from the Empire State Builing after capture, with his eyes taped open...


322 posted on 05/04/2011 1:25:03 PM PDT by USARightSide (_)
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To: Miss Didi

So let our ally Pakistan release the daxx pictures! Rummy’s opinion is just that another opinion and as much as I think Rummy is better than most statist, he’s still a statist!


323 posted on 05/04/2011 1:25:19 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: DivineMomentsOfTruth

Ditto.


324 posted on 05/04/2011 1:30:15 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: FarRightFanatic

Hell, I think Nancy Pelosi is too gruesome to look at, and we’ve all handled it fine on occasion (or, at least, survived it . . . sort of).


325 posted on 05/04/2011 1:33:22 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Roninf5-1

You are right. Glad there are some here who see through the BS.


326 posted on 05/04/2011 1:35:13 PM PDT by Commander X (TOTUS...destroying the USA one lie at a time.)
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To: library user
Plain and simple.

This is pure Clintonian: "nothing good can come from this, so treat the people like mushrooms -- cover 'em in shit and keep 'em in the dark".

327 posted on 05/04/2011 1:36:31 PM PDT by StAnDeliver ("Are you better off than you were four years ago...?")
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To: StAnDeliver

Drudge has a link to some death-scene photos. Everyone must be clicking into it; I can’t get on myself.


328 posted on 05/04/2011 1:41:46 PM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Mr. Mojo
That’ll just convince the conspiratorial Muslim world that he isn’t dead, and thus encourage more jihad.

Isn't that what Barky wants?
329 posted on 05/04/2011 1:53:04 PM PDT by crosshairs (Say what you want about the South, but you never hear of anyone retiring and moving north.)
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To: library user

This administration is so rudderless


330 posted on 05/04/2011 1:53:15 PM PDT by wardaddy (ok...Trump beating on Obama---Sarah----Michelle.....any of them are ok for now---tain't picky)
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To: library user; All

I find it funny that everyone was ripping Obama for deciding to release a photo in the earlier story in breaking news that said he would (an inaccurate story from Drudge).

Now everyone is ripping him for not releasing it (which is actually what they decided).

Don’t like the guy, but it’s funny how Freepers just kneejerk attack no matter what.

Frankly, I think it should have been released. Obama made the wrong call here.


331 posted on 05/04/2011 1:55:47 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Cementjungle
Fox News just said Obama thought the pictures were too “gruesome.”

Barry is married to the Wookie. He should be able to handle gruesome,,,,,and gargantuan.
332 posted on 05/04/2011 1:56:27 PM PDT by crosshairs (Say what you want about the South, but you never hear of anyone retiring and moving north.)
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To: library user

By now I’ve decided that no matter how “gruesome” Osama’s death mask is ...

Seeing photos of my fellow Americans’ bodies raining from the sky on Sept. 11 was worse. Now that was horrifying. Nauseating. By powers of 10.

So, if they show the picture or not, whatev’. Just don’t try to tell me that something like that is TOO gruesome. Because I will not forget Sept. 11.


333 posted on 05/04/2011 2:00:00 PM PDT by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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To: iopscusa

Actually, what Krauthammer stated in that segment was that this event should NOT shield Obama from rightful criticism that his foreign policies have been flaccid at best, but unfortunately it will.


334 posted on 05/04/2011 2:04:16 PM PDT by Per-Ling
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To: PghBaldy
This really ticks me off. This guy got a frikking 40 minute religious funeral, after killing thousands of Americans, in several terrorist attacks, and we are worried about upsetting his followers?

No kidding. And his service wasn't even interrupted by the Westboro freaks.
335 posted on 05/04/2011 2:04:40 PM PDT by crosshairs (Say what you want about the South, but you never hear of anyone retiring and moving north.)
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To: library user

Another stupid pratfall from the Kenyan Clown and his circus.


336 posted on 05/04/2011 2:08:38 PM PDT by snowsislander (The Nigerian 419 scammers must be envious of what this Kenyan fraud has accomplished.)
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To: library user

They apparently didn’t take any photos of him with undies on his head... pity!


337 posted on 05/04/2011 2:15:05 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Oh my gosh! #285! Those Beatrice fascinators... ROTFL!!!!
338 posted on 05/04/2011 2:15:42 PM PDT by 444Flyer ("...Rather the scorned- the rejected -the men hemmed in with the spears..." from 'A Consecration')
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To: library user

http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/


339 posted on 05/04/2011 2:23:32 PM PDT by Jeremiah Wrong
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To: April Lexington
So it's not ok and "spiking the football" to show OBL's corpse. Might inflame the Muzzies.

Yet Obama is proud to have numerous pictures released showing him getting standing ovations and congratulations for ordering the killing as he and his wife smile and wave.

Make sense to anyone?
340 posted on 05/04/2011 2:24:21 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: library user

Hey BO, FU.


341 posted on 05/04/2011 2:39:09 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: Sacajaweau

‘____grace at meals at West Point is a no no.’

Really? Just wow.

I’ll ask a friend whose grandson graduated from West Point when President Bush was the speaker - maybe 2003?

I was at West Point 2 times in the 1950’s watching soccer scrimmages between the (young...) cadets, and the team from Grumman on Long Island that my dad organized for that aircraft company. Sweet memories!
The Grumman team got to eat with the cadets - not so for the families who went to watch. Dang.

Guess who won the scrimmages . . .?!


342 posted on 05/04/2011 2:42:11 PM PDT by USARightSide (_)
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To: library user
Be it economic theories, birth certificates, global warming, voter eligibility, proof of bin Laden's death...

Being a liberal means never having to prove anything.

343 posted on 05/04/2011 2:48:51 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: over3Owithabrain
Third world muzzies see death every day. People dead in the streets all the time and the muzzies flock to the death site just to see the gore!

The only reason why Obambi is holding the pictures is because it would outrage his liberal base because they don't have a clue of how people die or get killed and what it actually looks like. In the PC world people die in hospitals.

344 posted on 05/04/2011 2:57:16 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: library user

He WON’T release a photo but he WILL show up at Ground Zero tomorrow to test the waters and see how it goes as he kicks off his re-election campaign.
He’s bound to get a mixed reception, though he will be playing the part of Conquering Hero, as he meets with probably very carefully chosen members of 9-11 families.
Not surprisingly, the TWO photos the world has seen at this point, paid for by Reuters to a Paki, are obviously OBL’s sons, like the pix of Uday and Qusay Hussein.
The Radical Islamists of course won’t get ‘inflamed’ over the son’s pix.


345 posted on 05/04/2011 2:57:53 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: Jeff Winston

About the only people to display any competence in this whole affair are she Navy SEALs who took him out.


346 posted on 05/04/2011 3:00:50 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

BWAAHAhahahaha!

When I saw this on Prince Andrew’s daughter’s head (first saw it from the back), the hat looked like Elk antlers to me! Something from Dr. Suess. When seen from the front it is definitely a bow.

Then when the 2 sisters posed side-by-side, I saw the evil step-sisters from Cinderella!

Thought I heard cackling - - -

(Daughter loves (nice) hats and she loved Posh (Beckham) Spice’s black head gear )- - -


347 posted on 05/04/2011 3:05:46 PM PDT by USARightSide (_)
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To: library user

Osama died years ago, this whole op was a lie.


348 posted on 05/04/2011 3:20:35 PM PDT by omega4179 (Thank you G W Bush for Guantanamo intel.)
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Drudge has some raid pictures posted that someone sold to Reuters. A couple of guys having a blood clot cocktail among them, but no bin Laden yet,
349 posted on 05/04/2011 3:21:28 PM PDT by Shqipo (I am the unofficial originator of the Mega-Bump! Only use judiciously.)
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Good. As much as I dislike Mr. Obama being POTUS. I have to agree with this decision. It makes no sense to stir up the fanatics in Islam. Seeing gorey stuff just stirs them up, it doesn’t make them afraid. So, keeping the photos under wraps is a good idea. However, he has made a decision and needs to stick with it....no waffling. It hurts America’s image.

I am very glad Osama is dead and gone, and in a frightful way. I only regret that the Seals weren’t able to take all still living in the compound prisoner.....so they couldn’t make up stories like his “child” is claiming. The downed Helo stopped that from happening. Also, they couldn’t gun down children....bad PR. However, leaving them behind wasn’t too good.

Whatever, I agree with the decision to take Osama out. I agree with the high level of force used. I agree with the “proper burial” and not releasing photos to be a propaganda tool of extremists. I disagree with the loose lips in the administration that put out incomplete information only to retract it later....makes us look bad.

My only serious regret is that Mr. Obama is getting to take credit for this. I would have prefered President Bush or even the British. Fortunately, it doesn’t appear that this “righteous kill” is going to gain Mr. Obama any points with the voters....as it should not.


350 posted on 05/04/2011 3:24:32 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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