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Posted on 05/04/2011 12:06:24 PM PDT by MestaMachine
To start off this new thread, it has been brought to my attention that FReeper, Dengar1, has spotted "suspicious" and unusual muslim activity in his suburban Chicago neighborhood and reports that this activity is happening in another nearby community as well.
Suspicious Activity amongst the Islamic Community in Chicago (Since OBL Dead)
Dengar1 has been a FReeper in good standing for over ten years, so when he says something, you can probably take it to the bank.
In the wake of what is claimed to be the death of osama bin laden, the likelihood of more terrorism around the world has inceased dramatically, The indications I have been seeing and hearing about are that the muslim groups, big and small, have increased their focus on the United States even more dramatically.
There have been general threats issued and that was to be expected. But if the unsettled chatter on the jihad boards is any indication, there is widespread shock and a lot of disbelief in the "official" story obama and members of his administration have released to the public, especially when the "facts" have changed substantially since obama's self-serving speech on Sunday night.
obama is using this as a political tool for his own ends as was very noticable in the stump speech he gave as a "formal announcement," and his subsequent plans to go to Ground Zero and hype himself even more, which I believe is an absolute disgrace from an American point of view.
His Sunday night announcement was delayed nearly an hour to give a flash mob of mostly local college students time to gather in front of the White House and was then broadcast worldwide. It was NOT a spontaneous demonstration of celebration. It was a cynical political ploy orchestrated by the administration and most of those who gathered there were young children on 9/11.
Nevertheless, political or not, these images went out over the airwaves, and while the occasion is indeed worth celebrating, there should have been a period of fact gathering and time for some somber and SOBER reflection before presenting the entire world with a set of unverified and erroneous "facts" coupled with what appeared to be a celebration of bin laden's death when in reality, it was a celebration of obama. The muslims worldwide do not know or care about the difference.
So WHY did he do it the way he did?
As is his wont, he has taken all he credit unto himself, patting himself on the back as if he had planned and executed this operation with no input or help from anybody....for US. THAT is what WE heard. Yet the story was not anything like his big announcment complete with flowery and altogether sickening prose, (which is reminiscent of any muslim pronouncement,) and in fact, is still changing as it becomes clear that most of the people in that compound were women and young children. There were no guards and no human shields as was initially claimed.
There was no major firefight, and indeed, we are now being told that no shots were fired at arriving Americans at all. bin laden's twelve year old daughter states that her father was already captured when he was shot. Whether that is true or not, the muslims will believe it.
WE have no proof that bin laden was even there and the "proof" they claim to have, they won't release for fear of offending muslim "sensibilities"? After broadcasting obama's speech worldwide? After the images of a "euphoric celebration" was broadcast at the same time? After not worrying about offending muslim "sensibilities" as long as obama was being covered on international television?
May I remind this POS that sits at the helm of OUR ship of state that the muslims did not give one good damn about OUR sensibilities when they filmed and released Daniel Pearl's beheading? Or Nick Berg's beheading. Or the bodies of American contractors being mutilated and burned and hung from a bridge in Iraq. And so many other atrocities too numerous to mention.
I WANT that image. I don't care how gruesome they say it is. And if they DON'T release it, the muslims who believe bin laden is dead will STILL seek vengeance, and those who DON'T believe it will feel even more passion to strike because the koran ORDERS them to if their heroes are lied about. Furthermore, obama KNOWS this full well, and the story he told on Sunday night was deliberately DESIGNED to enflame the muslims even more than it was designed to give US any satisfaction whatsoever. It was designed to advance the notion that bin laden AND his faithful wife died as martyred heroes... and that was a flat out lie. The entire premise for obama's speech Sunday night was for muslim ears and eyes, NOT ours. THAT is the muslim way...and obama KNOWS the muslim way.
So Dengar1's experience will be played out in many place across this country, not just in the suburbs of Chicago. If ANYONE on Free Republic has any similar experiene, or if you see somethingthat bothers you enough to set off your gut alarm, do not hesitate to call the FBI and your Local and State Police. Do NOT confuse yourself by second guessing yourself. Just DO it. If you are wrong, there is no harm done, but if you are RIGHT, you might wll save lives. PLEASE BE VIGILANT. I cannot possibly overstate the imminent danger this POS has put us in with the speech he broacast to the world on Sunday night. And now he goes to TARGET Ground Zero.
Can you imagine the impact on muslim "sensibilities" at seeing George Bush CELEBRATING bin laden's death at Ground zero? Do you think obama invited him because he feels so magnanimus towards Bush? OR Giuliani? Bush had the good sense to decline. I don't know if Giuliani will allow himself to be used in this way.
I reiterate. IF YOU SEE SOMETHING...ANYTHING, MAKE THE CALL! AMERICAN LIVES MAY DEPEND ON IT!
My goodness, I was JUST pinging you about his thread, when yours popped up!
Thanks, this will be interesting to follow. FReepers get the news out WAY before any news does. We Rock!
Thanks, this will be interesting to follow. FReepers get the news out WAY before any news does. We Rock!
It was reported this morning that BO asked Pres. Bush to come to the meeting with families of 9/11, but Pres. Bush refused, saying he did not want the spotlight. Such class would never occur to BO or any other no-class Democrat politician.
Bring it on! About damn time we brought this festering boil called islam in America to a head and lanced it.
WHITE HOUSE: WE AREN’T RELEASING A BIN LADEN PHOTO
NBC/Twitter ^ | May 4, 2011 | White House / Chuck Todd
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:34:25 PM by library user
Pres. Obama has decided NOT to release any photos.
- Chuck Todd, NBC
In The Beginning
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54162.html"> White House modifies Osama bin Laden account
The White House backed away Monday evening from key details in its narrative about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, including claims by senior U.S. officials that the Al Qaeda leader had a weapon and may have fired it during a gun battle with U.S. forces.
Officials also retreated from claims that one of bin Ladens wives was killed in the raid and that bin Laden was using her as a human shield before she was shot by U.S. forces.
At a Pentagon briefing earlier in the day, a senior defense official said bin Laden used a woman as a human shield so he could fire shots. He was firing behind her, the official said.
In another background briefing early Monday morning, a senior administration official also said bin Laden put up a fight. He did resist the assault force. And he was killed in a firefight, the official said.
However, during a background, off-camera briefing for television reporters later Monday, a senior White House official said bin Laden was not armed when he was killed, apparently by the U.S. raid team.
Another White House official familiar with the TV briefing confirmed the change to POLITICO, adding, Im not aware of him having a weapon.
At the Monday evening briefing for TV reporters, a senior official also corrected what Brennan described earlier as my understanding that the woman who acted as a shield for bin Laden was one of his wives and was killed.
A different guys wife was killed, a different official familiar with the briefing for TV reporters said Monday night. Bin Ladens wife was injured but not killed, the official said.
Another official familiar with the operation said it did not appear that any woman was used as a human shield, but that the woman killed and the one injured were hurt in the crossfire. The official said he believed Brennan had mixed up the episode involving bin Ladens wife with another encounter elsewhere in the compound.
Two women were shot here. It sounds like their fates were mixed up, said the U.S. official. This is hours old and the full facts are still being ascertained as those involved are debriefed.
In another discrepancy, Brennan said during his on-the-record briefing that bin Ladens son Khalid was killed in the attack. However, the official White House transcript had the counterterrorism adviser saying it was another son, Hamza, who perished in the raid.
The White House didnt offer a reason for any of the changes. However, Brennan noted during his televised briefing that his information came from reports from the scene as well as live video feeds of the raid. I wasnt there, he said.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BIN_LADEN_DNA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-05-02-17-17-06 Not everyone believes bin Laden really is dead
U.S. officials are balancing that skepticism with the sensitivities that might be inflamed by showing images they say they have of the dead al-Qaida leader and video of his burial at sea. Still, it appeared likely that photographic evidence would be produced.
“We are going to do everything we can to make sure that nobody has any basis to try to deny that we got Osama bin Laden,” John Brennan, President Barack Obama’s counterterrorism adviser, said Monday. He said the U.S. will “share what we can because we want to make sure that not only the American people but the world understand exactly what happened
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/bin-laden-lived-pakistan-compound-5-6-years-114333796.html Bin Laden lived in Pakistan compound 5-6 years: U.S.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Osama bin Laden lived for the past five to six years in the compound deep inside Pakistan where the al Qaeda leader was killed by U.S. forces, President Barack Obama’s counterterrorism adviser said on Tuesday.
Bin Laden, who was living in Afghanistan before a 2001 U.S.-led invasion helped topple its Taliban regime, was holed up in a compound in the military garrison town of Abbottabad in Pakistan before Sunday’s operation to kill him.
“Well I think the latest information is that he was in this compound for the past five or six years and he had virtually no interaction with others outside that compound. But yet he seemed to be very active inside the compound,” White House counterterrorism chief John Brennan said on the CBS Early Show program.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/osama-bin-laden-dead-navy-seal-team-responsible/story?id=13509739 Osama Bin Laden Dead: The Navy SEALs Who Hunted and Killed Al Qaeda Leader
These men have done all of this in anonymity. It is standard procedure never to identify members of Team Six.
“A lot of those missions — a majority of those missions — are ones that the public will never know about... and that’s a good thing,” Smith said.
I only have one reply to this, and that is the Seal team that actually went in and did the raid.
There is still strong honor and integrity among our soldiers, especially the elite units like this one. If Obama was going to use their heroism as a stepping stool for his campaigning I will bet my house one of the members of that unit will step forward and denounce him as a liar on camera for it.
There is no way they would allow him to announce to the world that "HE" ordered a successful attack that led to the death of one of the most hated men in our history if it didn't happen, UNLESS he was taken alive for interrogation. To lie for that reason would be perfectly acceptable to them if there was a need to, but not to further Obama's reelection bid.
Their silence tells me that "something" happened Sunday night that's close enough to the truth of whats been reported to keep them quiet, orders and threats of court martial be damned.
I’m right there with you, NGZ.
Thanks, MestaMachine. I saw the thread about the suspicious activity and am glad you brought it up here. And, like you, I WANT TO SEE THE PHOTO!!!
I also heard that only certain families were “selected” to attend the ceremony at ground zero with the big-eared POS. Major photo-op for him.
I would tend to agree with you about the Navy Seals. But this is far deeper than even killing bin laden. This is how it is being used by obama to deliberately enflame the muslim world. He lit the match in the ME. Now he has lit the fuse worldwide. He LIED... flat out, and called it a “lack of information.” If you believe that, you do not know the muslim mindset. HE does.
Perhaps barry has lost faith in his “forgery man” since his “bc” went straight to heck!
ALL 9/11 families should have been invited, or perhaps they were and refused, disgusted at barry’s pompousness, which may have been why they stated “only certain families were selected”.
I truly believe barry won't release the photos because he does not want to upset his fellow muzzies.
We have a usurper in OUR House and only God can help us remove IT.
I am so disgusted.
Make that Dengar01. Whew, what a wild and crazy trip it was last night. Y'all keep your ears to the ground and eyes wide open for suspicious activities. It may not be this week or next week but six months from now when they think things are back to normal and we've let our guards down.
It was a cynical political ploy orchestrated by the administration and most of those who gathered there were young children on 9/11.
The second we saw them we said they were in 4th grade on 9/11 and were there only to party, not for what 9/11 meant. The Me!Me!Me! speech along with the fashionably (rude) hour late and the following mixed up timeline is nothing but the norm for this narcissist. Bush declining the invitation was the right thing to do.
Not showing the photo will do more harm than good. Without it, photoshopped or not, will only send the message to the ME that OBL is alive and well.
Even if America survives to see him out of office, he has placed far too many evil doers in government positions at all levels. He knows it will take many years to weed them out as it's nearly impossible to fire a government employee. They will continue his and Soros' work for many, many years. In fact, the plan to destroy America will probably move more quickly with him out of office as they can proceed with fewer questions and prying eyes.
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