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Republican Presidential Debate #1 - May 5, 2011 - Greenville, South Carolina (Live Thread)

Posted on 05/05/2011 5:08:20 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Broadcast on: Fox News

Broadcast time: 9pm EDT/6pm PDT

The Candidates...

Gary Johnson

Johnson served as governor of New Mexico from 1995 to 2002. He founded what would become one of the largest construction companies in New Mexico. He has competed in several triathlons and climbed Mount Everest.

Herman Cain

Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.

Rick Santorum

Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.

Ron Paul

Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an obstetrician-gynecologist and was the Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008

Tim Pawlenty

Pawlenty served two terms as governor of Minnesota, from 2002 to 2010. He served in the Minnesota House from 1992 until 2002. He is the son of a truck driver.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: cain; debate; debates; garyjohnson; gopdebate; hermancain; johnson; paul; pawlenty; presidentialdebate; ricksantorum; ronpaul; santorum; scdebate; scgopdebate; timpawlenty
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To: katiedidit1

On April 27, Rush Limbaugh said of Cain, “I love Herman Cain, he is obviously a leader...In a better world Herman Cain would be seen as one of our foremost candidates. He’s a guy who’s got it all.”


151 posted on 05/05/2011 7:05:57 PM PDT by justsaynomore ("Holding hands and singing kumbayah is not a foreign policy strategy!" - Herman Cain)
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To: llandres

I like Cain out of the bunch, but I do believe that his foreign policy questions are weak. He needs to do better than, “we need to have a plan.”


152 posted on 05/05/2011 7:05:57 PM PDT by foobarred (My post is less racist than your teleprompter.)
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To: Pan_Yan

So far I like Herman Cain the best- been watching him for months. I like some of Johnson’s answers too.


153 posted on 05/05/2011 7:06:19 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: mnehring

Cain is the only dredible candidate in this group in my opinion. Truely he is a candidate without much in the way of dollars and network — but damn it, I like and respect him and have for some time.

Johnson is coming across well but he is too ideologically libertarian in many of his positions that haven’t yet been raised.

Santorum still has his tin ear — comes across as a sour school vice-principal.

Pawlenty is uninspiring.

Paul is having fun being Paul and showing he has dedicated followers that along with him will keep throwing sand in the transmission. He always wants to throw out settled law and come up with an ideological solution.


154 posted on 05/05/2011 7:07:22 PM PDT by KC Burke
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To: antceecee

I think Cain doesn’t want to put himself in a position of having to reverse himself. Reminds me of Obama saying the police acted stupidly even though he admitted he lacked sufficient information on the issue.


155 posted on 05/05/2011 7:07:42 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long history of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: SE Mom

I follow Herman Cain on Facebook. He just posted the question, “who do you think is winning the debate?” Obviously, since it goes out to his fans, he’s crushing the competition. LOL!


156 posted on 05/05/2011 7:07:46 PM PDT by reegs
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Who was the pro-abortion guy just now? I couldn’t see the screen and I don’t know who that was.


157 posted on 05/05/2011 7:08:56 PM PDT by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: gitmo

Johnson.


158 posted on 05/05/2011 7:09:31 PM PDT by redk
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To: gitmo

Gary Johnson is the pro-abort of the group.


159 posted on 05/05/2011 7:09:44 PM PDT by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: nakutny
I made it perfectly clear exactly what I heard said and you are 100% correct... I am not responsible for or a spokesman for Hannity. I can report what I heard... I thought it was over the top and undignified. I say things like that myself... right here on FR... I was just taken aback a bit when I heard it. I expect more from Nikki than I do from myself.

LLS

160 posted on 05/05/2011 7:09:47 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I am impressed with all of them. I could vote for any of them over Obama.


161 posted on 05/05/2011 7:09:50 PM PDT by Notasoccermom
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To: Red_Devil 232

I hate the stupid timer they have. Let the guys finish a sentence!


162 posted on 05/05/2011 7:11:00 PM PDT by ejdrapes ("Trump is NO conservative." - Jim Robinson)
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To: antceecee

Thats how Obama got into trouble...said he would pull out of Afgan and Iraq and close GITMO but had to renege when he got into office and was presented with the facts. Cain is correct in his answer for that reason.


163 posted on 05/05/2011 7:11:05 PM PDT by merryberry (was once a sad berry.)
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To: redk
Johnson.

This guy was sinking fast. Now it's just bubbles after his defense of abortion.

164 posted on 05/05/2011 7:11:11 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Immigration enforcers are Cain & Santorum....


165 posted on 05/05/2011 7:11:23 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: All
Paul asked about gay marriage. Says it should be Churches or by private contract, get government out of marriage period. Kept a state issue. Followup asked about DOMA vote: says it protects the state's rights.

Cain asked about DOMA. Says Obama violating oath by not defending DOMA in the courts.

Johnson supports "right to choose" though "viability," parental notification, no public funds for abortion.

Ask Pawlenty about embryonic stem cell research. Says we should't pursue new lines but supports Bush policy on existing lines.

Santorum asked about moral issues. Borrows a page from Keyes, talking about Declaration. Rights come from God, belief in family, belief in life. Dodges the question about gays.

166 posted on 05/05/2011 7:11:30 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Stay focused: Debt, Deficits & Immigration.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Santorum is trying to come across as decisive, determined; but he is coming across as defensive and angry.


167 posted on 05/05/2011 7:11:32 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: merryberry
Good luck finding a candidate that agrees with everything you want.

I never said that I expect to find a candidate that I agree with on everything.

A poster said that Cain was right on "everything" and I responded with two examples where he wasn't.

But do I appreciate your wish for good luck.

168 posted on 05/05/2011 7:11:43 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: reegs

Absolutely you can... obama has not taken that away... yet.

LLS


169 posted on 05/05/2011 7:11:58 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH!)
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To: South40

If he were to become a serious contender the drive-by media will turn the screws on him regarding these issues. Other than those two issues I named previously, I think he is a supremely intelligent, articulate man who obviously loves this country.


170 posted on 05/05/2011 7:12:25 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: justsaynomore

He’s doing very well tonight, isn’t he? :)

I don’t agree with him everytime- but I like his problem-solving attitude.


171 posted on 05/05/2011 7:12:58 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: nascarnation

Good question, will you “fire” teleprompter of the US?


172 posted on 05/05/2011 7:13:32 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: LibLieSlayer

okay - I understand.


173 posted on 05/05/2011 7:13:42 PM PDT by nakutny
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To: FreeReign

Sorry, my bad...misunderstood, but meant well!


174 posted on 05/05/2011 7:14:14 PM PDT by merryberry (was once a sad berry.)
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To: All

Did Ron Paul bus a bunch of supporters into the debate site?


175 posted on 05/05/2011 7:14:31 PM PDT by ejdrapes ("Trump is NO conservative." - Jim Robinson)
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To: ejdrapes

His supporters travel well, it’s why he always wins the CPAC straw poll.


176 posted on 05/05/2011 7:15:14 PM PDT by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: ejdrapes

It certainly seems like he has his own cheering section.


177 posted on 05/05/2011 7:15:37 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: newzjunkey

my question is:
Judging from his performance tonight, can you see how Pawlenty could generate enough support in IA or NH to cut into ROMNEY’s support?

If he doesn’t catch on soon, he will be over and done by autumn. I do not see how any of the other 4 will play a major role in the ‘12 campaign.


178 posted on 05/05/2011 7:15:50 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Palin '12 begins in '11. In western New Hampshire pour moi.)
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To: Notasoccermom
I could vote for any of them over Obama.

That's a pretty low bar. I'd vote for Heidi Fleiss over Obama, at least she ran a successful business and doesn't hide who she is.

179 posted on 05/05/2011 7:16:37 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: All

Pawlenty getting hammered on cap and trade. That’s his Romney Care.


180 posted on 05/05/2011 7:17:05 PM PDT by ejdrapes ("Trump is NO conservative." - Jim Robinson)
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To: nakutny; redk
No hard feelings with redk either... I think that I posted in a way that had some attitude and I truly did not mean for it to come out quite like that. Sorry if I ruffled feathers redk.

LLS

181 posted on 05/05/2011 7:17:44 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH!)
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To: All
Cain asked about "union busting" perception. Cain talks about Boeing being prevented from build its new plant in a right-to-work state.

Paul asked same question. Says union wages are artificially high and the cost has been loss of jobs. Says interstate commerce clause should not be used to block businesses.

Pawlenty defending "intelligent design" education bill he signed which leaves such topic to local decisions. Asked about his support for Cap & Trade and his infamous greenhouse regulation ad. He says he was wrong, made a mistake and regrets it. Now opposes Cap & Trade.

182 posted on 05/05/2011 7:18:07 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Stay focused: Debt, Deficits & Immigration.)
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To: antceecee

Had he committed on an informed issue to only change his mind later on the media would have turned the screws even harder.


183 posted on 05/05/2011 7:19:36 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long history of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: newzjunkey

What a dumb question by Chrissy. Who cares what Santorum wrote about women in a book in 2005.


184 posted on 05/05/2011 7:19:41 PM PDT by ejdrapes ("Trump is NO conservative." - Jim Robinson)
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To: katiedidit1

What’s That quote from Rush mean. I don’t understand what that means.


185 posted on 05/05/2011 7:19:46 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: ejdrapes

Naw... those people have nothing to do now that Jerry Garcia is dead.

LLS


186 posted on 05/05/2011 7:19:53 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH!)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Pawlenty sound the most like a career politician. He doesn’t answer the questions decisively. He tries to put his personal story in first, then gives a quick answer at the end of his time.


187 posted on 05/05/2011 7:20:13 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: LibLieSlayer

We’re good.

As for Nikki, frankly I wish she were on the stage with these clowns tonight.


188 posted on 05/05/2011 7:20:55 PM PDT by redk
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To: ejdrapes

That question and Juan’s question about evolution are the most irrelevant questions asked so far.


189 posted on 05/05/2011 7:21:08 PM PDT by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: South40

Your right... can’t win for losing... they have it down on attacking good candidates and taking them out before the people even have a chance to cast a vote.


190 posted on 05/05/2011 7:21:08 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee

Make that an ‘uninformed’ issue. :-)


191 posted on 05/05/2011 7:21:11 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long history of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: All

Santorum asked about his controversial writings on women. Spinning to avoid misogynist charges. Wallace gives him a second chance to get himself out of the noose and Santorum claims he only meant to say radical feminism created an atmosphere that denigrates the choice to stay at home.


192 posted on 05/05/2011 7:21:26 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Stay focused: Debt, Deficits & Immigration.)
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To: Pan_Yan

And Santorum sounds angry and defensive. Pawlenty and Cain are the only ones out of this bunch that have a shot of going far, IMO. Romney should be here, btw. What a chicken.


193 posted on 05/05/2011 7:21:49 PM PDT by ejdrapes ("Trump is NO conservative." - Jim Robinson)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I thought I heard one of the panel say that we could give an opinion on those who are not there tonight. Anybody get a link to that?


194 posted on 05/05/2011 7:21:51 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: LibLieSlayer
Cain is out for me then... I will not support anyone that would keep such information from the people that actually paid for the operation.

I'm starting to lean to the Col North's opinion that nothing should have been said at all --- keep them guessing. What we have now is a circus - what we would have is a circus with more pictures.

195 posted on 05/05/2011 7:21:56 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Is Trump a Stalking Horse for Guiliani?)
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To: ejdrapes

Ron Paul getting the prostitution and heroine vote


196 posted on 05/05/2011 7:22:17 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Wealth = Net Worth ...........Income = Net Work!)
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To: antceecee

Ron Paul just made a damn good point.

I do agree that liberty is an all-encompassing umbrella.


197 posted on 05/05/2011 7:22:37 PM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: redk

No doubt that she would be the center of attention. She is very articulate.

LLS


198 posted on 05/05/2011 7:22:38 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH!)
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To: stocksthatgoup

I think Paul and Johnson are on drugs right now.


199 posted on 05/05/2011 7:22:54 PM PDT by ejdrapes ("Trump is NO conservative." - Jim Robinson)
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To: justsaynomore

Are you watching?


200 posted on 05/05/2011 7:23:15 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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