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Republican Presidential Debate #1 - May 5, 2011 - Greenville, South Carolina (Live Thread)

Posted on 05/05/2011 5:08:20 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Broadcast on: Fox News

Broadcast time: 9pm EDT/6pm PDT

The Candidates...

Gary Johnson

Johnson served as governor of New Mexico from 1995 to 2002. He founded what would become one of the largest construction companies in New Mexico. He has competed in several triathlons and climbed Mount Everest.

Herman Cain

Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.

Rick Santorum

Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.

Ron Paul

Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an obstetrician-gynecologist and was the Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008

Tim Pawlenty

Pawlenty served two terms as governor of Minnesota, from 2002 to 2010. He served in the Minnesota House from 1992 until 2002. He is the son of a truck driver.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: cain; debate; debates; garyjohnson; gopdebate; hermancain; johnson; paul; pawlenty; presidentialdebate; ricksantorum; ronpaul; santorum; scdebate; scgopdebate; timpawlenty
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To: katiedidit1

Thank you and a few of the others who have posted about Rush liking what he sees in Cain. I was so angry with Rush four years ago for staying quiet about the elections. I didn’t expect him to tell everyone who to vote for, but I did expect him to let people know who was really conservative and who wasn’t and which conservative policies these people supported or did not support. If he had opened up about McCain and Romney and Huckabee and their RINO, lib ways early, we might not have been stuck with the last candidate standing “that could win.”

That Rush understands that Cain is the real deal is important. It is just as important that he let others know this. This is not a game to be played at. It is quite serious and will determine whether we continue as one nation under God or not. All of our informative assets and resources need to be utilized.

Our conservative ideas work. Liberal ideas don’t work. People need to be exposed to these ideas and exposed to someone who truly understands and believes in the conservative way. Rush Limbaugh and other conservatives in talk radio have a duty to point to true conservatives and help them get their ideas out into the world. The stars of conservative talk radio don’t have to pick one candidate but they should set apart those (however many) who truly are conservative and point them out to the world.


551 posted on 05/06/2011 9:03:12 PM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Great video with Herman Cain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9_bP219ehQ


552 posted on 05/07/2011 2:43:50 AM PDT by Atlantan
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To: campaignPete R-CT; justiceseeker93; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj

I haven’t watched the thing yet.

I’ll let you guys know what I think when I do.


553 posted on 05/07/2011 5:54:58 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

I haven’t watched it and won’t need to.

explain this CAIN outburst. Is it cuz the folks here are young and haven’t seen this act before? Or is it futile? The right has deteriorated into fringe city.

I believe it is futile to fight splintering. We don’t have a real candidate in the race, yet, so I guess they chase after today’s novelty. I was not here in ‘08. I suspect there wasn’t much interest in Fred Thompson until Tancredo, Brownback, Duncan Hunter dropped out in the fall. By then, it is usually too late as FRED found out.

As far as I am concerned, In the real world, I wish to have nothing to do with the fringie activists. Spending an entire year with the Pat Buchanan activists was nauseating. It cured me for life.

Why I’m not excited about Herman Cain:

=Because running for PREZ is not an effective way to start a political career
=Because fringe right-wing candidates help the RINO/establishment to splinter the grassroots, giving us a ROMNEY vs DANIELS race next year.
=Because the RINOs want to select the nominee cuz they like power, the grassroots want an exciting candidate to give them an interesting year. Nominating the guy is not a priority.

RINOs will win again.


554 posted on 05/07/2011 6:19:56 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Palin '12 begins in '11. In western New Hampshire pour moi.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Excuse me.

Herman Cain ran for Senate in GA. It just so happened that he did not win the Republican primary. He was a serious candidate, however.

He ran against RINO Republicans, but these are more like stealth RINOs not proud, card-carrying ones such as we have in some other states. If a lot of folks could have their vote back I’m willing to bet they would give it to Herman Cain.

Cain isn’t fringe.

If by fringe you mean not well known nationwide and not scoring in the polls, that’s easily overcome. If by fringe you mean a nutcase or the like, that’s just wrong.

Thanks just the same, but if we choose, we can make Herman Cain into a force to be reckoned with. I said we can, not we will. I hope we will, however. What you could do is just get out of the way.


555 posted on 05/07/2011 6:54:29 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrangerette

I put out yard signs for Herman Cain’s Senate bid in 2004. I enjoyed putting a lot of signs around Morehouse College, Cain’s alma mater, since Cain is definitely not on the plantation.


556 posted on 05/07/2011 9:03:14 AM PDT by Atlantan
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To: newzjunkey

“Cain on gas prices: energy independence plan. Drill here, drill now. Speculators will drive prices down, not up.”

And the Fair tax, and cutting government spending, and being able to take out Barry in a debate, and love of country, and love of God.

Barring some big surprises down the road, Herman’s 10 times better than anybody else.

The cancer of the 16th amendment needs to be ripped out by the roots, and he is the only one with actual experience beating real cancer.


557 posted on 05/07/2011 9:32:06 AM PDT by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: txrangerette
"What you could do is just get out of the way."

Yep, I am the guy who is in the way. Preventing Cain from getting more support. Just like I was in the way for Pat Robertson'88, Pat Buchanan'96, Bauer, Keyes, Duncan Hunter, Ron Paul ... and others who never had a chance at being the nominee.

As long as the Cainiacs have a good time trying, that is the important thing. Ames straw poll is only 3 months away and all ya need is 4000 votes to make a splash. Go for it! Game on.
558 posted on 05/07/2011 11:39:04 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Palin '12 begins in '11. In western New Hampshire pour moi.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

I’m sorry to say that you are probably right, but it is ultimately Republican primary voters who fail us.


559 posted on 05/08/2011 8:03:48 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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