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Survivalists: Are you part of the new subculture?
KFOR ^ | 5/6/11 | Ali Meyer

Posted on 05/06/2011 8:20:22 PM PDT by Kartographer

At Red Dawn: Hunting, Survival, Recreation, they specialize in homesteading, emergency preparedness and first-aid.

Owner Gaylon Cornsilk first dreamed up this concept about a year ago.

The doors have been open just six months and business has exploded.

Cornsilk says, "This was kinda born out of a passion to see people prepared for any kind of emergency, natural or man-made. We are growing exponentially everyday. Obviously there's an air of people starting to notice and want to prepare for what's going on around them."

Donna Harper manages the store's long-term storage food section.

Some of the pre-packaged emergency food rations last five to 25 years; the rations sell out so quickly they cannot keep enough on premises.

(Excerpt) Read more at kfor.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: bhoeconomy; cwii; economy; emergencyprep; preppers; prepping; preps; shtf; survival; survivalping; teotwawki; tshtf
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Wonderful clarity on your part, but I don’t think we’re supposed to think such thoughts. Too much of that and people might just start turning off their televisions.


41 posted on 05/06/2011 10:10:50 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: yup2394871293; Salamander
Another thing to think about is that the disaster does have to hit you directly it only has to cut off your food, water and power. You say that you've been caught off guard by two major hurricanes and a couple of tornadoes and yet you've learned nothing, which in itself tells me much about your mind set one which repeats the same mistakes over and over again. Yes you got by, but did you ever consider that you got by with luck. I find it odd that so many who don't prepare or look down on those that do say things like: “Why should I prepare it will just all get destroyed or I won't be able to get to it or we will all be dead so it doesn't matter.” That's BS! In most disasters many many people live, very rare are the disasters where everyone is killed and everything destroyed. As I posted a disaster does have to hit you directly it only has to cut off your food, water and power. But you go ahead stand on the side of the road begging for FEMA to feed and provide for you and your family. Don't take care of your own, make sure you and your family are on tv lined up awaiting the ‘guberment’ to help you. Me I don't wish to be at the mercy of some bureaucrat. Some people are ants some people are grasshoppers. I hope you find being a grasshopper works for you.
42 posted on 05/06/2011 10:13:03 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Here is a site with some of the most common sense info I have seen on planning for possible natural disasters or sociital upheaval.

How to Survive Hard Times
by Robert Wayne Atkins, P.E.

http://www.grandpappy.info/indexhar.htm

As an example, the author recommends starting small by accumulating canned goods you probably already use until you have a 30 day supply on hand.

Here are some, but not all, of the subjects covered:

How to Find Water and How to Make Water Safe to Drink

How to Build a Very Effective Water Filter System for Approxmiately $75

A Simple But Effective Survival Plan

Realistic Self-Sufficiency: The Do’s and the Don’ts

Part One: How to Start Preparing for Hard Times on a Very Modest Budget

Part Two: How to Start Preparing for Hard Times on a Very Modest Budget

Use Common Sense to Compare Your Current Location to Another Location

How to Select the Optimal Retreat Location

A 30-Day Emergency Food Supply for One Adult

One-Year Emergency Food Supply for One Adult\

Pure Salt, Iodized Salt, and Sea Salt

Hand-Cranked Stainless Steel Meat Grinder

How to Preserve Food Using Three Simple Old Fashioned Methods

How to Improve the Quality of an 1800s Lifestyle

Firewood, Fireplaces, and Cast Iron Stoves

Shelf Life of Canned Food and Dry Food

Shelf Life of Medicine

Recommended Books for Home Schooling

Books: Emergency First Aid Books and Supplies.

Books: Recommended List of Books to Purchase Before the Hard Times Begin

The Basic Rules of Survival During Hard Times

The Basic Minimum Necessities for Survival During Hard Times

A Comparison of Five Leading Brands of Toilet Tissue

Flashlights Rechargeable Batteries and a Solar Battery Charger

Solar Power Generator

During a Disaster Event Should You Stay at Home or Leave?

How to Effectively Evacuate a Big City Without a Car

An Emergency Evacuation List

Pets and Livestock

The Advantages and Disadvantages of Recreational Vehicles and Campers

Charity During Hard Times

The Most Frequently Overlooked Items for Long-Term Hard Times Survival

Food Inflation Price Index Based on the One-Year Emergency Food Supply

How to Convert Human Waste into a Safe Garden Compost Fertilizer

Job Opportunities During Hard Times

Recipes for Hard Times, including Acorns, Hickory Nuts, Pemmican, Squirrel, and Wild Game.

Home Gardening Tips (Index of Articles)

Wilderness Survival Tips (Index of Articles)

Free Preparedness Manual - LDS Free Online 222 Page Book on How to Prepare for Hard Times.


43 posted on 05/06/2011 10:15:35 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Every day we now throw away things people will kill for after SHTF.)
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To: metmom

Check this guy out! He even admits that he has been caught off guard by two major hurricanes and a couple of tornadoes and he still sees no need for prepping! As Bugs Bunny would say: “What a maroon!”


44 posted on 05/06/2011 10:17:38 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: ChocChipCookie
What I mean is you don't even realize how enslaved you have become, I didn't either until I moved to a place with no organized local govt (unorganized borough). We don't have any taxes, even property taxes. No LEO's whatsoever, no regulations, permits, comp planning,ect and it works out just fine. Everybody likes no real intrusive govt that keeps growing and fight when fed agencies try to give freebees to the community. Example: This year one of the few town Dems tried to bring in this fema program that would provide low cost flood insurance. Community got to together and thanked her for her leg work but said if people needed insurance, they had to buy it themselves, not expect the govt to subsidize a program; end of story.

Everything is tied up in urban areas, you can't stop it either.

People in urban areas can't cut their costs like people can in rural areas. Whether going to wally world twice a week or big macs or pizza, the money goes. I'm 500 miles from nearest sams. Living costs are way higher in urban areas and you can't get around that reality. I have friends working 2 jobs, wives work and they spend just so much to stay in the game. Their heads spin at how hard it is getting to just survive. I don't feel it nearly as bad, because I am able to cut costs where they can't. They have to pay expenses that are part of urban life. Taxes, high utilities, high rent or mortgages, but the big one is all that is spent just living the urban lifestyle. Wife and I have our teaching degrees, my monthly costs are $200/ month phone & elec and $200/month dir tv and thats about it. We have way more disposable income than we have ever had in any urban area and we just luv going back in time to the 1940's lifestyle.

No offense, but when the inflation hits, cost of living will affect urbanites much more than how it will affect people living in rural areas; and no way around it. That's what I'm getting at.

Here's one for ya: When I did live urban, I could buy milk cows from local farmer for around 400 bucks. I'd debone and can meat. Would get close to 175 quarts out of a milk cow and it was quite good. Pressure cook meat. I'm so far out now, no farmers. We can salmon, but usually just freeze caribou and moose. I'd check with local small family farmers that are milking 50-60 cows, they always have 5-6 year old cows for sale.

45 posted on 05/06/2011 10:23:52 PM PDT by Eska
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To: ChildOfThe60s

My parents would be befuddled by the word prepper and the idea of not planning ahead and stocking up. That is the way almost everyone lived not so long ago.

We lived in a small town, not on a farm.
But summers and fall were still spent collecting food and putting it up for the winter. It was hard work to pick and prepare the vegetables and fruits but even the small children were brought out to the fields and orchards to help out.

I still think warm thoughts about those shelves under the basement stairs overflowing with tasty home canned vegetables, sauces, fruits and sometimes meats. We knew it meant good meals through the long winter.


46 posted on 05/06/2011 10:29:17 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Every day we now throw away things people will kill for after SHTF.)
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To: Iron Munro

Don’t forget Post #2


47 posted on 05/06/2011 10:31:50 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

As for food, water and power, if you only have a half-empty ketchup bottle in your fridge at any given time, live in place where you are surrounded by people you don’t trust or respect, and are incapable of walking, then yes, you are a fool. Either that, or you’re living in Somalia and you have my pity.


48 posted on 05/06/2011 10:32:27 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: Kartographer
Heck, I've been through 7.9 shakers Nov 3rd 2002, big burns 30X40 miles across that burned right through (then your glad fema brings in sprayers and water tanks and surrounds your house, ha), and we had a big flood at ice out on the Yukon 2 years back; washed half the town away, broke tele poles like match sticks, and scraped 200 year old trees down to the dirt off all the islands. When the ground opens up in your front yard, half expect to see the devil come jumping out, ha. BUT the only way you can prepare for such things is have a good spring, and secure food supply and fuel for generator, ect.

By living prepared, you are way better off the whole way around we figure. Couldn't imagine it any other way.

49 posted on 05/06/2011 10:35:39 PM PDT by Eska
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To: Kartographer

“Don’t forget Post #2”

Thanks.

I already downloaded it some time ago.
A a lot of it is printed out and incorporated into our own hard times/prepper/bailout manual.


50 posted on 05/06/2011 10:35:59 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Every day we now throw away things people will kill for after SHTF.)
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To: yup2394871293

WHY THANK YOU! THANK YOU! MR. FEMA MAN!
51 posted on 05/06/2011 10:38:37 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Dude, trust me.

I live less than a mile from one of those places that ‘doesn’t exist’ and I won’t even hear the whistle of the nukes coming in.

I grew up and still live in the backwoods and can survive just fine, short of a 10 megaton dropping next door.

And I ain’t beggin’ -nobody- for jack sh*t.

Hillbillies don’t beg.

My kin have survived in these hard mountains for 300 years without the revenooers giving us one single damn thing except a really hard time during prohibition.

I didn’t taste store-bought bread or milk until I left home at 18 and “hamburger” was what you had to feed corn and hay every morning.

Don’t you -ever- dare refer to me as a ‘grasshopper’ again.

You don’t know me *or* what I’m perfectly capable of doing.

Do yourself a BIG favor and put me on your avoid list.


52 posted on 05/06/2011 10:49:10 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: Kartographer; MsLady; yup2394871293; Sea Parrot; Eska; Steel Wolf; oldenuff2no; ChildOfThe60s; ...

For those not inclined to make any effort to prepare for emergencies and lay in some food and water, remind them of the lost souls wandering around in New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina beging for water.

How many hundreds or thousands didn’t even have the common sense to fill up a couple of empty bottles or jugs with tap water before the city water went down?

And it’s not as if they didn’t have ample warning the storm was on the way.


53 posted on 05/06/2011 10:52:12 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Every day we now throw away things people will kill for after SHTF.)
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To: Kartographer

Eat your MRE’s and be quiet, lest the CIA and the FBI find you and cart you away. And don’t drink the water out of the tap. It’s been poisoned with flouride, and it’s slowly killing you.


54 posted on 05/06/2011 10:52:22 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: Salamander

Would all you Hatfields and McCoys pipe down? I’m trying to git some sleep. Don’t make me come out thar.


55 posted on 05/06/2011 10:56:17 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: yup2394871293

LOL

[it’s McLucas...you got the wrong clan]

;]


56 posted on 05/06/2011 11:00:46 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: Salamander

Do yourself a favor if apost upsets you then stay off it. I don’t respect anyone who’s only reply is a threat shows that they have lost the augerment and that they know it.


57 posted on 05/06/2011 11:03:00 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer; All
When you're making preparations to sustain yourself and your family, don't forget your 4 legged friends. You'll need extra for them, too. Just a thought from a prepper. REFUSE. RESIST. Do NOT Submit! ★FREEDOM!★
58 posted on 05/06/2011 11:04:05 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER OathKeeper III We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: yup2394871293

You know I fear your type the most because when the time comes and the they realize that they were wrong they will be the first to make sure those that were right are ‘punished’ for it.


59 posted on 05/06/2011 11:05:47 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Neil E. Wright

Do that two! I trust my dog’s instincts about people even more than my own. If Hope don’t like you then there’s a reason no matter how you might appear or what ‘airs’ you put on she has a excellent sense about people and she’s yet to be proven wrong.


60 posted on 05/06/2011 11:09:59 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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