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Obama Ready to Roll Out New Amnesty Carpet for Illegals
sunshinestatenews.com ^ | May 9, 2011 3:00 PM | Kenric Ward

Posted on 05/10/2011 12:01:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Amnesty or bust. Though not using those words, that's expected to be the message President Barack Obama will deliver in the border town of El Paso, Texas, on Tuesday.

Obama, according to unofficial reports, will argue that his administration has tightened America's borders and stepped up deportations, and that it is time for Congress to enact a "path to citizenship" for at least some of the estimated 11 million illegal aliens in this country.

Wary congressional Republicans and even a few Democrats say that "path to citizenship" means "amnesty," and they're not willing to go down that road again. Previous amnesty programs, which effectively rewarded lawbreakers, simply enticed more illegals to enter the country.

Obama, eager to make good on campaign promises from 2008 and bolster his Hispanic base for 2012, says the time is ripe for immigration reform. The administration reports that it deported a record 392,000 immigrants, and has put more "boots on the ground" along America's southern border.

Workplace raids have stepped up, too, and more businesses are using the federal E-Verify program to screen new hires.

As for the illegals who remain, reformers argue that it is unrealistic to expect the government to deport some 11 million people.

But the experience in Arizona suggests that self-deportation occurs when and where immigration laws are toughened.

Weeks before Arizona's strict law went into effect, large numbers of Hispanics left the state for good.

Schools in Hispanic areas reported unusually big drops in enrollment, USA Today reported. A district superintendent said parents told him the Arizona law was the reason for them leaving.

Arizona's immigration-control measure, signed into law by Republican Gov. Jan Brewer, requires a police officer to determine a person's immigration status if they are stopped, detained or arrested and there is "reasonable suspicion" they are in the country illegally.

Paul Senseman, a spokesman for Brewer, said it's difficult to gauge how many people are leaving because of the law, but "If that means that fewer people are breaking the law, that is absolutely an accomplishment."

A court challenge by the U.S. Justice Department has since put the law into legal limbo. The administration's action indicates that Obama will not be calling for tougher national enforcement on Tuesday.

Still, Washington and Arizona appear to have found common ground with at least one effective immigration tool -- E-Verify.

When Arizona passed a 2007 law that enhanced penalties on businesses that hired undocumented workers, some 100,000 illegals left the state, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

E-Verify -- which combines Social Security and driver's license databases -- enables employers to check new employees' eligibility to work legally in this country. The federal program is free and the latest studies show it has a high accuracy rate.

Upgraded to handle up to 60 million requests at a time, E-Verify has an accuracy rate exceeding 95 percent, according to independent and government studies.

In addition to Arizona, several states and thousands of businesses have adopted E-Verify. Florida Gov. Rick Scott ordered its use by agencies under his control, but the state Legislature killed bills that would have extended it to the private sector.

Immigration-control advocates say that shutting off employment to illegals will inevitably result in self-deportation. If there is no work, there is no reason to stay, they contend.

The Center for Immigration Studies, a pro-enforcement think tank based in Washington, D.C., adds that tighter control of welfare benefits can also have a salutary effect.

Census Bureau data show that 57 percent of immigrant-headed households (legal and illegal) use at least one welfare program (versus 39 percent for native households). Illegal residents can obtain benefits because few agencies require recipients to provide proof of citizenship.

In the meantime, in advance of Obama's speech, the rhetoric is ramping up for immigration "reform" by any means necessary.

Speaking at a South Bend, Ind., church Sunday, U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez quoted Obama from 2008, talking about the need to change an immigration system where communities are "terrorized" by immigration raids and where "nursing mothers are torn from their babies."

Worried that the GOP-controlled House will oppose anything that smacks of amnesty, the Illinois Democrat said he's looking for the president to use "discretionary powers" to enact the changes.

In an indication of where he is heading Tuesday, Obama recently conducted a series of private meetings with business executives, evangelical leaders and Hispanic activists -- the same groups that repeatedly blurred the distinction between "legal" and "illegal" immigrants in helping to defeat Florida's modest E-Verify legislation.


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1 posted on 05/10/2011 12:01:24 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

FUBO!! Idiot!!


2 posted on 05/10/2011 12:02:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: All

H/T to the Drudge Report.


3 posted on 05/10/2011 12:02:25 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Then we need to yank it out from under him.


4 posted on 05/10/2011 12:04:46 PM PDT by RockinRight (Can't think of anything to say...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Wary congressional Republicans and even a few Democrats say that "path to citizenship" means "amnesty,"

Of course it does. Because there already IS a path to citizenship for anyone desiring it.

That path happens to be hard, requires time, patience and some (gasp!) learning.

Far easier to just wave the magic wand and make all these illegal invaders into Democrat voters.

5 posted on 05/10/2011 12:05:57 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A "Moderate Muslim"? Nothing more than a Muslim Extremist who has run out of ammo.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Trying to use his Osama bounce to continue his socialist agends.


6 posted on 05/10/2011 12:06:39 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Jim Robinson

I hope the Polish in Chicago and New York get upset with him.


7 posted on 05/10/2011 12:07:29 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

How long ‘til the DNC sets up “voter pre-registration” offices in Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica...


8 posted on 05/10/2011 12:08:16 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Steely Tom

George Soros will fund them!


9 posted on 05/10/2011 12:09:59 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Stroke of the pen, law of the land. Pretty cool!"
10 posted on 05/10/2011 12:10:15 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Under Islam, there is no separation of church and state. The church IS the state.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

BO needs to be impeached! It should of been done, already! Have a vote, and then everybody will be on record on how they voted on BO impeachment.


11 posted on 05/10/2011 12:10:15 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Anything to hurt America.
12 posted on 05/10/2011 12:11:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I feel sorry for them because Obama is just trying to USE them for the next election.........


13 posted on 05/10/2011 12:13:10 PM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

My plan:

1. No welfare for LEGAL immigrants on a green card until a 10 year US resident, 7 years if they’re a citizen. IDGAF if they have kids or not.

2. Amend law to disallow anchor babies.

3. Restrict LEGAL immigration by giving preference to immigrants with an education first, and to English speaking or Westernized countries.

4. Disallow dual citizenship. Make immigrants “shit or get off the pot.” If they want US citizenship, they must go to their native country’s embassy and renounce their citizenship with that nation.

5. Militarize the border. Shoot to kill. Sure, it’s brutal, but it’ll only have to happen a half dozen times before they get the hint.

6. Tell Mexico that if they continue to encourage drug smugglers and their own uneducated trash to come here we’ll consider it an act of war.

7. Mandatory deportation, no questions asked, of any illegal immigrant apprehended for ANY crime or traffic violation.

8. $275,000 fine per instance for employers knowingly hiring illegals or those using a fake or stolen SSN.

9. ENFORCE THE EXISTING LAWS!

10. Voter ID law.

11. Anyone who chooses to harbor illegals in their home, or directly employ them (such as for a housekeeper) is subject to a fine. This would not include hiring a contractor or company - as long as the contractor himself is legal, or the company is registered as a US corporation, but the contractor can be prosecuted in such an instance if their employees are illegal.


14 posted on 05/10/2011 12:14:05 PM PDT by RockinRight (Can't think of anything to say...)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Right now we are going threw the process of bringing our daughter in law to the US. It isn’t easy and it isn’t cheap and it takes a year or more after they have been married.
It would be so much easier to fly her to Mexico or Canada and have her walk across. Maybe then she could have her babies at taxpayer expense, collect food stamps, welfare and section 8 housing. We talked about the requirements with our Congress critters office and they recommended we hire an immigration lawyer.
I will argue with anyone who supports amnesty. I will never vote for a candidate who support it. I don’t care what party they are in.


15 posted on 05/10/2011 12:14:31 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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Obama will visit El Paso, Texas, with DHS Secy Napolitano WRT Ohaha's 2012 reelection effort---to suckup to latinos for votes. Watch for Ohaha to make clucking sounds about immigration reform.

An engraved invite was issued to the Pelcastre brothers of Dallas---the WH was pleased with the way the two undermined US ntl security.

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July 21, 2006----BERGEN RECORD, NJ
Texans accused of selling counterfeit IDs (impoverished illegals "here for a better life" pay several thousand $$$ for fake ID's)

Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, NJ L/E authorities said.

The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses for any state in the US, passports and resident alien cards, said state police.

The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker.

Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. Authorities wouldn't identify the NJ hotel by name for fear it would spark retribution. The Drug Interdiction Task Force regularly runs checks.

The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. Authorities approached the Texas brothers when they returned to the NJ hotel and questioned them separately.

The Texas brothers consented to a search. Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs. All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 Social Security cards. ####

16 posted on 05/10/2011 12:15:19 PM PDT by Liz (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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17 posted on 05/10/2011 12:15:56 PM PDT by Maverick68
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To: RockinRight

I second your idea. Too bad we have a bunch of traitors in our government that will never make something like this happen


18 posted on 05/10/2011 12:20:58 PM PDT by paul revere is riding
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GOOD NEWS REFERENCE The Pew Center for the People and the Press’ massive look at political parties, released last week, found that the gap between Democratic coalitions favoring stricter immigration enforcement and legalization is TWICE as large as the gap between hard-line Republicans and their more libertarian-leaning cohorts.....
19 posted on 05/10/2011 12:21:01 PM PDT by Liz (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
"Obama Ready to Roll Out New Amnesty Carpet for Illegals"

And then immediately bus them over to Democrat headquarters where they will be promised free everything for life and signed up on their voter rolls.

"Of course it does. Because there already IS a path to citizenship for anyone desiring it. That path happens to be hard, requires time, patience and some (gasp!) learning."

Correct! I became a naturalized citizen in 1993 in San Jose, CA. Had to endure the snotty Mexican civil servant with the thick accent who asked me "Why do you think you deserve to be a citizen of America?" Well for one thing I lost my accent long ago, dumbazz. It was a long trail of paper work, money, and time but was well worth it. Thank you America!

20 posted on 05/10/2011 12:21:05 PM PDT by Bed_Zeppelin
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To: Liz

This bast854rd is constantly up to no good.

He COULD be doing the right thing and working on jobs and the gas prices, but no. He’s out pandering to bring in third world peasants who require constant care and welfare aid.

He’s useless and evil.


21 posted on 05/10/2011 12:22:48 PM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: RockinRight
"5. Militarize the border. Shoot to kill. Sure, it’s brutal, but it’ll only have to happen a half dozen times before they get the hint."

That's not brutal. Brutal would be to depopulate Northern Mexico as an enemy state fostering an invasion of the US.

22 posted on 05/10/2011 12:23:15 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
More Undocumented Democrat voters

23 posted on 05/10/2011 12:24:31 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

flood Congress & Senate with faxes & phone calls to stop this idiot’s idiocy.


24 posted on 05/10/2011 12:26:04 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (I am keeping the faith, I have not finished my course and I am fighting for the good)
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To: LibsRJerks

There fixed it-——Ohaha’s ruthless, useless, and evil.


25 posted on 05/10/2011 12:27:47 PM PDT by Liz (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Will conservatives run the wetbacks out?

If we are a nation of laws, why aren’t the people we trust to enforce the law doing thier job?

Since ICE, cops, congress, prez are derelict in their oaths and duty, when do we abolish this insane government in it’s entirety, and start over?


26 posted on 05/10/2011 12:27:47 PM PDT by devistate one four (United states code 10.311 Militia Kimber CDP II .45 OORAH! TET68)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
As for the illegals who remain, reformers argue that it is unrealistic to expect the government to deport some 11 million people.

Absolutely unrealistic, as our "government" has totally failed in that respect. The fact that they are still pushing the 1990's mantra of "11 million" is proof that they never will remove the criminal illegal aliens from the u.S.

The only logical conclusion is for States to take more control of the removal process. Since States may not necessarily have the authority to eject a criminal illegal alien from the u.S. they probably can find a way to force them out of that state.

I wonder how dee-cee would welcome "11 million" (30-40 million) criminal illegal aliens being dumped there? It would make for one hell of a sink-o dee may-o parade...

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27 posted on 05/10/2011 12:29:19 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: MissDairyGoodnessVT
flood Congress & Senate with faxes & phone calls to stop this idiot’s idiocy.

Obama don't need no stinking Congress. He's going to go off on an EO orgy.

28 posted on 05/10/2011 12:29:20 PM PDT by AU72
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

IMO if they start down the Amnesty road they will also be starting down the Revolution road.


29 posted on 05/10/2011 12:29:35 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Has he even acknowledged the Missisippi flood victims..at all?


30 posted on 05/10/2011 12:30:20 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I am so sick of this bastard son of a hippy whore, Obama.

IMPEACH Obama......... before we no longer have a country to save.


31 posted on 05/10/2011 12:30:47 PM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Obama Ready to Roll Out New Amnesty Carpet for Illegals

Just in time to get them to the polls.

32 posted on 05/10/2011 12:31:37 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
He's on right now....

..I'm just half listening (& it's already puke city)...

I usually mute or turn off, and actually that sounds like a good idea....

....it's totally a bunch of bs....every word coming from his mouth.....

33 posted on 05/10/2011 12:39:10 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: Bed_Zeppelin

Good to hear success stories.


34 posted on 05/10/2011 12:45:05 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A "Moderate Muslim"? Nothing more than a Muslim Extremist who has run out of ammo.)
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35 posted on 05/10/2011 12:52:32 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Wow, that Kenric Ward guy really twists the truth!

But the experience in Arizona suggests that self-deportation occurs when and where immigration laws are toughened enforced.

Weeks before Arizona's strict law went into effect, large numbers of Hispanics illegal aliens left the state for good.

Schools in Hispanic areas populated by illegal aliens reported unusually big drops in enrollment, USA Today reported. A district superintendent said parents told him the Arizona law was the reason for them leaving.

Fixed a LITTLE bit of it...
36 posted on 05/10/2011 12:55:42 PM PDT by Peet (Leftists think personal liberty is so important it must be carefully rationed.)
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To: Jim Robinson; Liz; Ernest_at_the_Beach; sickoflibs; NFHale; LibLieSlayer; Graybeard58; Scythian; ...
Unfortunately, it's not just Obama wanting tens of millions of new leftist voters. Herman Cain sounds good, but what about the other GOP candidates?

Also see this: Fox News Owner Rupert Murdoch Pushes for Amnesty for Illegal Aliens

37 posted on 05/10/2011 1:20:10 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
BO needs to be impeached! It should of been done, already! Have a vote, and then everybody will be on record on how they voted on BO impeachment.



Impeached, impoverished and imprisonment. Anything less would be a travesty to justice!
38 posted on 05/10/2011 1:20:21 PM PDT by crosshairs (Say what you want about the South, but you never hear of anyone retiring and moving north.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"communities are "terrorized" by immigration raids and where "nursing mothers are torn from their babies."

Sappy, tear-jerking bullshiite. I have a long list of adjectives for Mr. "President", but most would result in getting banned. So, use your imagination.

39 posted on 05/10/2011 1:21:35 PM PDT by greatplains
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I noticed in 2007 that the FNC Special Report panelists were all supporting ‘immigration reform’ . Also you heard NO debate about repealing DADT last year on FNC. To kill that liberal push (change the polls) would have required a big media push and FNC didnt want to lose viewers, my guess.

I have long ago labeled FNC as establishment Republican, not conservative. Glenn Beck is an exception, and he got his walking papers.


40 posted on 05/10/2011 1:25:41 PM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: sickoflibs
I noticed in 2007 that the FNC Special Report panelists were all supporting ‘immigration reform’

I remember that. Barnes, Kondracke, and Liasson, 2 rinos and a lib. Brit Hume seemed to have a pained expression when he had to listen to them. I wrote to Special Report, and probably was not alone. After that they put Krauthammer, who opposed at least that manifestation of amnesty at that time, on the panel.

The financial shows on Saturday morning were even worse, and I permanently tuned them out after that.

41 posted on 05/10/2011 1:46:39 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

It comes as no surprise that Murdoch would support this crap. Things are just not what the appear on the surface.


42 posted on 05/10/2011 2:35:07 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: Truth29
Only the northern part?
43 posted on 05/10/2011 2:41:50 PM PDT by Maximum Scrunch
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Here's another lil kicker to peeve us conservatives.

After a year or so amnesty is granted, illegals (newly legal) can file a tax return, most being under the poverty line can claim the earned income tax credit.

Never pay a dime in taxes and qualify for hundreds if not thousands of dollars from Uncle Sugar.

On your dime.

44 posted on 05/10/2011 2:53:14 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

He lies to get whatever he can get.


45 posted on 05/10/2011 3:56:26 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


46 posted on 05/10/2011 4:37:57 PM PDT by HiJinx (Old Cold Warrior)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
We will give them five times the amount of hell that we gave them before... we will march on Washington if they push this crap... we will stop this or our Nation is finished.

LLS

47 posted on 05/10/2011 5:27:21 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Borax Queen; oldteen; tiapam; jaycee; HiJinx; Liz; All
He is trying to totally separate the Democrats from the Republicans.
I think he would love nothing better than a Civil War in this country!
No other president before him has ever been this blatent and hateful!

He wants the hispanic vote....
and will do everything he can to get it!

He KNOWS that there are at least 50 million illegals in this country
not 11 or 12 million, as has been reported for over ten years!


48 posted on 05/10/2011 7:42:43 PM PDT by yorkie (Our POTUS makes me think the person I detested the MOST -- would have been better! (Hillary))
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To: yorkie

Feral Democrats


49 posted on 05/10/2011 7:44:04 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Get the BO out of the Executive Mansion.)
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To: everyone; All

PLUS - doesn’t he realize he is the POTUS of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA - not just President of the Democrat Party?


50 posted on 05/10/2011 7:44:48 PM PDT by yorkie (Our POTUS makes me think the person I detested the MOST -- would have been better! (Hillary))
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