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Navy SEALs Want to Protect Their Identity Following OBL Raid
Fox News ^ | 5/12/2011 | Justin Fishel

Posted on 05/12/2011 4:16:51 PM PDT by panthermom

Members of Navy SEAL team 6, the Special Operations unit responsible for killing Al Qaeda leader Usama bin Laden in Pakistan last Sunday, have expressed concerns about their safety and the safety of their families now that details of the mission have been made public.

Speaking to Marines at Camp Lejeune Thursday, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the concerns were expressed to him directly a week ago when he met with members of the unit to congratulate them on their mission. Gates said the SEALs were mainly focused on their families and worried they could be subject to retaliatory attacks.

Read more: http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/05/12/navy-seals-want-protect-their-identity-following-ubl-kill#ixzz1MBLvz0Ax

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TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: biden; binladen; bustickets; may2011; navyseals; obamaleaks; obltermination; opsec; osama; osamabinladen
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To: panthermom

Well, I have a good bottle of Bourbon for the man who did the deed. I don’t know if his name is ever released, but I would love to send it to him with my deepest thanks.


51 posted on 05/12/2011 6:45:29 PM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: panthermom

When I first heard this story today, I was wondering if all of the Seals were wearing masks when they met with Bowbama.


52 posted on 05/12/2011 6:46:20 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: panthermom

So go public with the details, names of people in the room, Who organized the agreement, Why they did feel necessary to agree, just dump it all out there. Right here on this site, It will be seen


53 posted on 05/12/2011 6:48:50 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: All
This time the Pretender in Chief thinks he's a SEAL.
54 posted on 05/12/2011 6:48:50 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (***Only candidates whose voting record has financially supported our military)
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To: DTogo

I am not so terrified that I won’t fight back!!!!


55 posted on 05/12/2011 6:49:20 PM PDT by panthermom (Pray for my son in Aghanistan and all the troops!)
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To: panthermom
Obama better protect the privacy of the Seals who took out OBL.

That's all I can say.

56 posted on 05/12/2011 6:51:21 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Mariner

“And, if you believe the story about muslim prayers and what not, I want what you’re smokin’.”

I wouldn’t be so sure.

Remember General Casey saying “Diversity shouldn’t be a casualty of Ft. Hood”?

Political correctness has run amok.


57 posted on 05/12/2011 6:55:54 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: panthermom
"I was on another site where a person posted that a family member was a SEAL, not T6. Immediately after the announcement, it was ordered to remove ALL bumper stickers and to not wear any clothes or display any paraphernalia that would signify SEALs. Sounds legit to me."

This is a disaster beyond the comprehension of the commies in the White House.

58 posted on 05/12/2011 7:04:05 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

“Terrorists can go there and look for Iconic stickers in car windows...tee shirts etc.”

Not likely. These guys are always undercover.

Like you, I wish Obama kept his big mouth shut.


59 posted on 05/12/2011 7:09:49 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Mariner

It is time that the whole Special Operations community falls in around these brave individuals and their families and makes sure that they are safe. Not just the Navy, but operators of all flavors.

Nothing is more important than taking care of your own.


60 posted on 05/12/2011 7:19:38 PM PDT by Have Ruck - Will Travel (Hmm, I wonder what would happen if I...)
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To: panthermom; P-Marlowe; Lancey Howard; jazusamo; Travis McGee; Blueflag; Girlene; bigheadfred; ...

This is a travesty. Those men have been asking for security of details since the mission and they’ve been ignored for blatantly political reasons.

First, the operational details released will endanger them and other special operators on future missions.

Next, it will endanger them personally as nuts try to search them out.

Third, it will give ideas on methods to other nations’ special operation forces.

Finally, it will endanger the nation in that the release of details makes future missions that much harder to accomplish.

This is the TERRIBLE after-effect of the blatant rush to the camera by Obama and other glory hounds from John McCain to Geraldo Rivera....who actually broadcast a former special operator last week pleading that details not be pursued because it endangers lives.


61 posted on 05/12/2011 7:20:22 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: All

As the story changes again and again, people started asking questions. Now they hide behind national security.

Still don’t know how (or why) a helicopter can fly the body 200+ miles to Afghanistan, unload, do DNA and facial testing, reload, take off and fly 800-1000 miles to a US ship, hold a Muslim prayer ritual, dump the body in the sea...all in 8 hours. Not saying Osama is alive. Just saying the official story, that keeps changing, smells. 8 hours? Muslim ritual is within 24 hours of death. What was the hurry?


62 posted on 05/12/2011 7:21:52 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: panthermom

We did not need to know SEALs were even involved. Our men would have been much safer if we had simply been told a “Special Operations Unit” took him out. No need to know they were SEALs or what...absolutely no need to know which Team, and no need to know any other units that may have been involved. We didn’t need to know the name of the ship he was deep-sixed from. The details should have been kept need to know and our men and their families would be much safer.

There is so much we didn’t need to tell Al Queda either, no need for them to know what we found...just crazy to blab all these things to the bad guys. I cannot even imagine what this Administration was thinking- clueless all of them.


63 posted on 05/12/2011 7:22:38 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: missnry
That picture is more accurate than you may know.

A friend of mine has a son in the military. He buys a throw-away phone so he can speak his mind re: Zero and not get caught/in trouble.

64 posted on 05/12/2011 7:24:31 PM PDT by synbad600
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To: SJackson

It’s all the tea baggers’ fault. Had they not wiped the floor with the Dems last mid-term, they wouldn’t be chest thumping over the one thing they got right.


65 posted on 05/12/2011 7:25:45 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: bvw

Biden’s not evil, just stupid and senile. He’s the anti-Quail.


66 posted on 05/12/2011 7:29:12 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: panthermom

We didn’t need to know what branch of service they were involved with, even if one specific one wasn’t truly the operational service.

We didn’t need to know the type of special team.

We didn’t need to know the name of the special team.

We didn’t need to know the complete methods used to get into the compound.

We didn’t need to hear a blow by blow of what took place.

The next time this unit is used, it’s operational methods are going to be on the table, and it’s targets scared into fighting it out to the last man, even if that means a suicide bombing.

Our President is clueless.
Our Vice President is clueless.
Our top level appointees are clueless.
Too many people knew inside details and too many of them were willing to spill their guts.

This and other Democrat administrations don’t think in national security terms. They don’t understand it. They have no personal instincts geared to ‘play it safe’, or thinking before they do anything. They spill their guts and then slither off into the night, leaving death and destruction in their wake.

There are times when I criticize Republican administrations. One area that I don’t criticize them for, is their handling of top secret information. Their military and national security related appointees generally have a clue. They understand the need for secrecy. They do as much as they can to protect our troops and assets on the ground.

The present administration is roughly comparable to handing the keys to you new $250k car, to a nine year old. While you want to criticize the kid, you know damned well it was the grown-ups fault for giving him access.

The citizens of the U.S. gave Obama access. Heaven help our troops, and the citizens of our nation.


67 posted on 05/12/2011 7:36:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Tell me you haven't asked yourself what mistake Obama made, that wound up causing Laden's death?)
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To: SES1066

If military operational secrecy were important, we’d have denied the whole thing for at least a week while we ran people to ground using intelligence gathered at the compound.


68 posted on 05/12/2011 7:41:02 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: xzins; panthermom

Those fine men have been betrayed by their CIC, there is just no getting around that.

This president had a solemn duty to protect them and all operational details. It was his job to demand secrecy.

He ignored his duty for the sake of a temporary bump in the polls. His popularity was more important than their safety.

This is not leadership, this is not greatness, this is not American.


69 posted on 05/12/2011 7:48:16 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing; P-Marlowe; Lancey Howard

There is no telling what opportunities in capturing other information or other leaders were totally ruined by the White House rush to get in front of the camera.

This is criminal violation of national secrecy for political purposes.

They have no moral high ground on which to stand while complaining about Assange and Wiki-Leaks.


70 posted on 05/12/2011 7:53:38 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: xzins; smoothsailing

I don’t believe it can be said better than you and smoothsailing said it.

Obama has betrayed our military of whom he is the CINC. There’s nothing he can now do to make up for this even if he wanted to which I know he doesn’t.

A person with even an ounce of integrity would resign but of course he has none and won’t.


71 posted on 05/12/2011 8:03:22 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: xzins
"This is criminal violation of national secrecy for political purposes."

I'll second that.

72 posted on 05/12/2011 8:04:08 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: panthermom
Extreme Ways by Moby
73 posted on 05/12/2011 8:04:58 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.conservativedna.com/)
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To: panthermom
GREAT listing! Every single one of these sociopathic traits is evident in 0dumb0 the RAT bastard socialist commie pig-in-chief. Personally I hope that 0dumb0 destroys himself prior to the 2012 election, because I am concerned that American voters have become so socialistic & dumbed down by our media & anti-American, anti-Christian educational system, that 0dumb0 would likely win the next election. Especially when there appears to be no Repub (other than Hermann Cain) with the cajones to actually attack the socialist nature of 0dumb0.

I hope & pray that God himself will harden & destroy the mind of 0dumb0, just as he did to Pharaoh during Moses time, and later also destroyed the mind of Nebuchadnezzar for his pride & arrogance.

74 posted on 05/12/2011 8:26:58 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: scooby321

What if Osama was under house arrest and known to us? We’d get all the intel we need.

Why mention anything about him? Why ever say what we did ever? Take him to a secret facility and using enhanced methods get him to rat out his entire network. Staying silent all the time as we dismantled it. The only reason to announce this at all is political desperation.

Nothing’s kosher about the entire episode.


75 posted on 05/12/2011 8:31:27 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: panthermom
Without a doubt, Obama is a textbook sociopath.

Lord, have mercy on our nation.

76 posted on 05/12/2011 8:42:50 PM PDT by 444Flyer ("...Rather the scorned- the rejected -the men hemmed in with the spears..." from 'A Consecration')
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To: LyinLibs

Well, as long as they have LifeLock identity theft protection, they ought to be fine!;)


77 posted on 05/12/2011 8:46:02 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: panthermom

So now these geniuses out the SEALS’ concerns for themselves and their families

What idiots in charge . . Heaven help us


78 posted on 05/12/2011 8:56:33 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("Celebrate 'Civility'")
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To: DTogo; panthermom
Courage is not the lack of fear. It is acting in spite of it. ~ Mark Twain
79 posted on 05/12/2011 9:10:27 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: scooby321
When did China get the wreckage of the downed helo?
(I'm guessing that is the "helicopter" you are referring to)

Do you have a link to that story?
80 posted on 05/12/2011 9:25:06 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: xzins
Third, it will give ideas on methods to other nations’ special operation forces.

Other nations - - including China, Russia, North Korea, etc. - - will now feel that they have carte blanche to launch assassination missions against anybody they feel like labeling a "terrorist". "Hey, the United States does it so why can't we?"

Imagine how the Israelis must feel. When the Mossad takes somebody out there is nothing left but a ghost and an unsubstantiated rumor. When the selfish Ubama takes somebody out, it's a sparkling campaign commercial.

I can't blame these SEALS for feeling like they've been sold out. Now, every Navy SEAL has extra reason to always be looking over his shoulder.

81 posted on 05/12/2011 9:32:09 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SES1066

“Obama needed, badly needed a foreign victory and this was it.”

Yup, I think you’ve nailed, FRiend.


82 posted on 05/12/2011 9:40:03 PM PDT by DemforBush
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To: omega4179
“The rat bastards made such a big deal about Valerie Plame who was a pencil pusher outed by another Dem.”

When I read the headline, by first reaction was, “No SH##, Sherlock”.

I worked undercover for 5 years in a Gang/Drug Task Force and my biggest concern was the safety of my family.

When I heard that the community organizer was going to personally go to congratulate the members of SEAL Team 6, I knew those men wanted to stay in the shadows.

I have put up with obama’s stupidity and arrogance for over 2 years now, but when he puts the lives of members of our military and their families at risk, it's time to send him and his teleprompter back to the Windy City where he can do less harm to our nation.

EODGUY

83 posted on 05/12/2011 9:41:26 PM PDT by EODGUY (Hold on to your copies of the Consititution of the United States. It is going to be re-written.)
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To: Lancey Howard
"Other nations - - including China, Russia, North Korea, etc. - - will now feel that they have carte blanche to launch assassination missions against anybody they feel like labeling a "terrorist". "Hey, the United States does it so why can't we?""

it would be terrible if they came after our great king, the news would occupy every TV channel for months and they would have to re-name every school and library on both coasts

84 posted on 05/12/2011 9:47:38 PM PDT by KTM rider ( patriot turned rebel)
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To: Candor7

“Can’t blame them. After all they are each fatwa-ed, and not for killing OBL, but for killing a surgically altered stand in martyr.

Thats why the body was deep sixed into the Arabian Sea even before it was cold.”


Perhaps there is some misdirection going on.

I have a hard time believing that they are being “outed” because the administration is “stupid” or they “do not care.”

More to it than that but not sure what.

As Bob Dylan would say “something is happening here, but I’m not sure what it is.”

STE=Q


85 posted on 05/12/2011 10:17:33 PM PDT by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: STE=Q

Not to be nitpicky, but, actually, Stephen Stills would probably be saying those words, since he wrote those lyrics—not Bob Dylan.


86 posted on 05/12/2011 11:43:58 PM PDT by dupree
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To: icwhatudo
Muslim ritual is within 24 hours of death. What was the hurry?

Osama was given a proper Muslim burial for just ONE REASON:
Islamic martyrs ARE NOT given a proper Muslim burial.

That right there is enough reason to have done it, or at least to SAY that it was done.

We did it at sea to ensure that there would be no grave, and therefore no future shrine.

87 posted on 05/12/2011 11:48:26 PM PDT by HKMk23 (A free man unarmed is just a slave on borrowed time.)
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To: chicagolady

IIRC, the media outed them before Biden. It doesn’t excuse what he did though.


88 posted on 05/13/2011 12:04:59 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: panthermom

There’s WAY-WAY too much info *out there* ...the fact that the enemy knows the SEALS even secured the computers and other hardware/data is very disconcerting.

Why can’t they keep their BIG MOUTHS shut!?! All done to ride-the-tide of his victory lap.


89 posted on 05/13/2011 12:49:08 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Don't just live your life, but witness it also.")
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To: Mariner
"When you live and work in the close quarters of a ship, you get to know who's in the next rack."

If you're implying that those who share a rack are good guys, I say bullshit. I did 11 years in the Navy (75-86) and served on 3 different warships and left as an E-6. I shared many close quarters with other secular Sailors and even then couldn't trust them all.

The Navy is made up of all kinds and I found some of my shipmates to be lazy, incompetent, and a couple who were angling for a general discharge just because they couldn't hack it but they didn't kill anyone in the name of their stupid Muslim cult.

Yeah,the Muslim Chaplain who walked in and killed so many on base recently served honorably. If I remember correctly, he even had a Navy Achievement Medal in his photo.

Think about the Muslim who threw a grenade into an Army tent and killed so many and he served honorably. Forgot about that, didn't you? Now think about all the thousands of Muslim murders, rapes, beheadings, dis-membermant, etc that happen around the World every day. You want to trust such people? Fine.

You're okay with the recent Afgan intel trainee that walked up and opened fire and killed a bunch of our CIA guys? He was US trained who was respected and trusted (honorably) and killed, what, 11 CIA operatives?

But really, James Bond? Puhlease. They just need access to weapons, just like some bank-robber. That doesn't take a 007 clandestine effort.

If I were serving today, I wouldn't trust a Muslim for a second. I would have a solid shipmate watching my 6. F*ck Muslims. They turn too quickly to their radical cult as recent history has shown.

Radical Islam is the enemy; moderate Islam is a Trojan horse. Always remember that Islam followers have in the back of their minds that their theocracy is number #1. Allah takes top priority.

You be naive and bleeding heart tolerant; I will be cautious.

90 posted on 05/13/2011 2:37:14 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet

>> Radical Islam is the enemy; moderate Islam is a Trojan horse.

Islam is a war plan.

BTW, good post — I appreciate the perspective.


91 posted on 05/13/2011 2:41:38 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: panthermom
Kinda think this is a big to do about nothing. Although this SEAL team may be a notch more secretively than other SEAL teams (which all are clandestine in their assignments), their records are on file at NavPers or whatever it's called today. Easy enough for any foreign intel agency to find their names.

Most SEALS are not regular married Sailors because of the nature of their duty. Is al-Qaeda or Pakistan really going to go to the effort of tracking down a SEALS, Delta, Marine Recon, Rangers' family to make a point? Think of the blow-back. Plus, they can all get new ID's.

The CIA combat operators are those most wanted and you will never hear about, because no one can find their names. Those guys are right along side our spec-op guys in theater, but when they die, they only get a star on a wall. Our SEALS, Marine Force Recon, Army Delta and Rangers, Air Force search&rescue get medals for all to see.

But then I'm working on info from old SEAL friend at Coronado many years ago - things could have changed. But I doubt their families are in jeapordy. And I know the SEALS themselves are not. Doesn't matter if anyone knows their names. The media could plaster their face all over the world, but when they activate, they are always under the radar, with face camoflauge. So who would know if John Smith SEAL were to infiltrate? Their entire scenario is about going in undetected. Think about it.

92 posted on 05/13/2011 3:21:17 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet

It is a big deal. These man don’t need to be hunted down like dogs. They also took out OBL, not some guy who is only known inside the intelligence community.

It is much different today. Years ago would the media camp out in front of your home and run checks on you, like they did Joe the Plumber? We see the ugliness of people every day. The internet makes finding pictures of people very easy, same thing with their exact address. It does not mean that they are going to be targets of Al Qaeda but it can be any other whacko. We hear about people being stalked all the time.

You talk about their families. What if it were your wife and kid that were harrassed or targeted? Hello? Code Pink or a group like them? Do you think it is fair that these men and their families have to be compromised so that Obama can have a photo with them?


93 posted on 05/13/2011 3:35:57 AM PDT by panthermom (Pray for my son in Aghanistan and all the troops!)
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To: panthermom

There are NO words to describe the way I feel about these people. I feel the disgust in my bones. The fact that these men should have to worry about this is MADNESS!!! This administration is a WMD targeting our very foundation!
I am sick to my stomach.

Time to make the Democrats feel this way with the election of President Palin. Yes I know they felt disgusted when President Bush was President and said the same things we said but after 2 1/2 years with President Obama, it is back to the Democrats turn again. We cannot have President Obama for 8 years....Having President Bush for 8 years made the Democrats sick to their stomach’s but he was not nearly as bad for them as President Obama is to us.


94 posted on 05/13/2011 3:49:31 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: A Navy Vet

Your post defies common sense.


95 posted on 05/13/2011 3:56:34 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Relativism is the intellectual death knell of liberal ideology.)
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To: BlatherNaut

“Not defending Obama (NEVER!) - he is clearly using this for political gain - but SEAL and DF operate out of a couple of bases, and the bad guys already know about them.”

OPSEC is OPSEC.

And this is F’n criminal.


96 posted on 05/13/2011 5:12:38 AM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: Dahoser
I continue to believe that Obamao will eventually throw the SEALs under the bus to appease his international critics. Of course, he’ll maintain his BMOC standing, but the SEALs will be sacrificed to do it.

If that happens, I wouldn't be surprised to see a re-enactment of a Vince Flynn novel being played out in real life. These individuals deserve America's respect, and shouldn't have to be worrying about some elected official putting them or their families at risk because they can't keep their pie-hole shut. I believe it will only take one incident where someone's family member dies because someone spoke when they shouldn't have.

97 posted on 05/13/2011 5:36:21 AM PDT by voicereason (A RINO is just a different shade of Democrat.)
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To: panthermom

Hmmmm.

I’d say that Zer0 fits a lot of it.

But Slick! That is a perfect fit.


98 posted on 05/13/2011 6:05:22 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: A Navy Vet

Excellent post, ANV. Forwarded it to my daughter stationed in Italy.


99 posted on 05/13/2011 6:07:50 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (You will try to nudge commies toward the truth, while they try to nudge you toward the cattle cars.)
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To: panthermom

U.S. to Bolster Security for SEAL Team: Gates

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=6488261&c=AME&s=TOP


100 posted on 05/13/2011 6:08:39 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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