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Farmers across America ditch tractors for oxen in bid to beat rising fuel prices
The Daily Mail ^ | May 9, 2011 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 05/15/2011 7:01:59 AM PDT by bkopto

When farmers Danielle and Matt Boerson realised they could no longer afford to run their tractors, they took the bull by the horns - and ditched them for oxen.

Soaring petrol prices had become so high that the couple, who run an 80-acre farm near Madison, Wisconsin, were forced to get rid of their two tractors, hay baler, plough and rotavator.

So they took a course at the agricultural institute in traditional farming techniques.

'It gave me the confidence that, yes, I could do this', Danielle told the Times. 'It just required a lot of concentration and a firm voice.' Their instructor was former peace core volunteer Dick Roosenberg, 64, who learned the trade while working for the UN in West Africa. He took the skills he had honed back to Michigan and set up Tillers International.

At first the company was aimed at helping Third World farmers harvest in the cheapest way possible.

On the side, he also helped historically-themed villages. But his specialist knowledge is now enjoying a new wave of interest with farmers from Wisconsin to Alaska now joining his courses.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News
KEYWORDS: communism; marxism; obama; progressives; socialism; wisconsin
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And so it begins: the first wave of abandonment of modernity, as architected by the Greens, socialists and the Democrats.

Obama is smiling. Somewhere, Karl Marx is smiling.

1 posted on 05/15/2011 7:02:03 AM PDT by bkopto
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To: bkopto

Lurching toward 3rd world status......how nice.


2 posted on 05/15/2011 7:04:29 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: bkopto

And we have to learn it from a Brit newspaper


3 posted on 05/15/2011 7:04:35 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: bkopto

I agree. We are becoming a third world nation. Replacing tractors for Oxen?!! How in the world is that suppose to be a “good” thing? I guess the kids will eventually ride a pony to school instead of a car like their Pop-Pop did when he was a kid (in Indiana during the Depression).


4 posted on 05/15/2011 7:05:31 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: bkopto
The new American ingenuity...

Mike

5 posted on 05/15/2011 7:06:01 AM PDT by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: bkopto
"Their instructor was former peace core volunteer Dick Roosenberg, 64, who learned the trade while working for the UN in West Africa."

Yield per acre? The country cannot exist on 80 acre hobby farms.

6 posted on 05/15/2011 7:06:30 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: bkopto

I’m surprised he had a tractor for only an 80 acre farm.

Probably tilled the field using a goat.


7 posted on 05/15/2011 7:06:58 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: bkopto

Could be financially smart, many folks would gladly pay a lot more for “oxen-tilled” farm produce, no doubt.

Freegards


8 posted on 05/15/2011 7:07:41 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: bkopto

Farming with draft animals, while more time consuming, is VERY profitable. Ask the Amish about it.


9 posted on 05/15/2011 7:08:03 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bkopto

“We are now five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America” — attributed to some treasonous Muslim usurper


10 posted on 05/15/2011 7:08:54 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: bkopto
"They are also a handy source of fertilizer and can be eaten when they die."
- a cheery side note from the article.

But seriously, we're all going to starve if very many farmers start using oxen instead of tractors.
11 posted on 05/15/2011 7:08:58 AM PDT by AndrewB (FUBO)
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To: bkopto

Obama and his “green” tsars may be smiling, as are assorted agrarian romantics, Maoists and tree-huggers.

And, while, the torments of the after-life aside, the shades of Pol Pot and Mao might be pleased, I doubt Marx would be. Marx despised rural life, which in his day still involved the use of draft animals, and seems to have mistakenly believed his fundamentally anti-human ideas would lead to an industrialized paradise in which worker-owned mechanized collective farms and factories would produce abundance for all.


12 posted on 05/15/2011 7:09:13 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: bkopto

My father always enjoyed working our garden with a horse, but he knew better than to try to gow a farm full of tobacco without a tractor.

Animals may be great for smaller farms but America cannot survive trying to use animals for their food crops.

The Amish around here make it ok, but their farms arent that large, and their families are large. Plenty of kids to clean the barns ,feed the animals ,and work the farm.

Animals do not sit around when they aren’t working, they require care. Care every day. They don’t just eat grass, they eat corn and hay and have to be fed all winter.

You won’t see a lot of farmers going out buying oxen.


13 posted on 05/15/2011 7:09:17 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: bkopto

—they won’t be doing it for long—subsistence agriculture is on great for other people-—


14 posted on 05/15/2011 7:09:17 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: AndrewB
But seriously, we're all going to starve if very many farmers start using oxen instead of tractors.

Not really. Actually crops may cost less. Farmers will have to work harder.. It is more work taking care of large draft animals than a tractor.

15 posted on 05/15/2011 7:11:03 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: bkopto
Our "evil" tractors and our "evil" consumption of "25% of the world's oil" have been feeding the rest of the world for years.

Let's see how they like our new methods of farming when THEY are the once again feeding themselves on insects and monkey dung.

16 posted on 05/15/2011 7:11:10 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (It's easy being a menace to society when WAY OVER half the population is happy being sheep.)
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To: bkopto

My gosh. We’re turning into a 3rd world country!


17 posted on 05/15/2011 7:11:20 AM PDT by vladimir998 (When anti-Catholics can't debate they just make stuff up.)
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To: bkopto

$3,000 for a second hand tractor? Second hand garden tractor yes, or a very, very second hand 40 horse tractor. Otherwise the writer is dreaming.
Sounds very romantic and nostalgic. However, like tractors, critters break down, and as noted are much slower.
Bottom line, if done by choice, go for it. If forced by govt incompetence, not good.


18 posted on 05/15/2011 7:12:37 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Ransomed
Could be financially smart, many folks would gladly pay a lot more for “oxen-tilled” farm produce, no doubt.

But, but, won't it produce ox-flatulence and kill the ozone, thereby radiating the earth and killing all the farm crops.

Just askin'

19 posted on 05/15/2011 7:12:41 AM PDT by evad (Obama needs to show us his green card)
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To: bkopto

Enjoy while PETA get its act together.


20 posted on 05/15/2011 7:12:43 AM PDT by mewykwistmas (Lost your job as a birther under Obama? Become a 'deather'! Where's Bin Laden's death certificate?)
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To: bkopto

LOL, what in hell is new about, the Amish have always farmed that way, a few of them do use old, old, tractors, but not many. They normals use a six up team to plow with, and I have seen them square bail with the same arrangement.


21 posted on 05/15/2011 7:13:19 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: bkopto
Their instructor was former peace core volunteer ...

That's Peace Corpse to you, mediot. The British are typically more careful, looks like the disease has spread.

22 posted on 05/15/2011 7:13:22 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: bkopto

And somewhere, Robespierre is getting his smile on.


23 posted on 05/15/2011 7:13:33 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: bkopto
He is already teaching up to 20 farmers every weekend.

This is a total BS article.

Note the by line: "By Daily Mail Reporter"

They didn't want to embarrass the idiot who wrote this by naming him.

24 posted on 05/15/2011 7:13:49 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: bkopto
I really doubt this will become much of a trend unless people are forced to. If you can't make it on 80 acres with a tractor, you need to either reconsider your crop or your occupation.

As for "Farmers across America...", I'm in North Dakota, and I don't exactly see a stampede to farm 10-15 sections (square miles ~640 acres each) of wheat with oxen.

More overblown dirtworship dreams. This is not a viable alternative to mechanized farming if we are to feed our own, much less a significant portion of the world.

25 posted on 05/15/2011 7:15:38 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: bkopto

What a load of BS.
What’s the current price of cattle feed?

What’s your Price to Earnings Ratio?

Stupid Libtards


26 posted on 05/15/2011 7:19:31 AM PDT by mylife
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To: bkopto

Obama is smiling. Somewhere, Karl Marx is smiling.


Karl Marx is also patting him on the back.


27 posted on 05/15/2011 7:20:12 AM PDT by unkus
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To: Smokin' Joe
As for "Farmers across America...", I'm in North Dakota, and I don't exactly see a stampede to farm 10-15 sections (square miles ~640 acres each) of wheat with oxen.

Corporate farms will always be mechanized. I don't think this is the topic here.

28 posted on 05/15/2011 7:20:40 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Yeah, but the Amish know how to do it, have the trained oxen for it and aren’t afraid of hard work.

These two in “Madison” on a 80 acre farm are likely MayDay marchin libs. Their 80 acres will be up for sale soon.


29 posted on 05/15/2011 7:21:54 AM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: bkopto
The example given of an 80 acre farm. That is right at the bottom of what I would consider a full-time farm. Corn produces about 150 bushels per acre with a modern mechanized farm (plowing, fertilizing, applying herbicide and harvesting) . At $7 per bushel they would have a gross income of $84,000 before they pay for a any fuel, seeds, fertilizer, equipment or land payments. On the other hand, a yoke of oxen can plow about one acre a day, so those 80 acres would take 40 days if they had two teams working. That is probably too long to plant one crop and be able to have a full growing season for the last planted seeds.

I wonder how many people are doing it seriously, versus a few hobbyists or survivalist types, and the newspaper is trying to pump it up into a movement for the story.

On the other hand with all the rain in Ohio this year, some farmers could use water buffalo to plant their rice crops because they can't get corn or soybeans into the ground yet.

30 posted on 05/15/2011 7:22:02 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: bkopto

Well, Obastard did promise us we’d not be able to eat the kind of food we want, or as much as we want, and the prestitutes just gushed starry eyed at the magnificence at which he proclaimed mass murder through starvation!


31 posted on 05/15/2011 7:22:04 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: mewykwistmas

When more farmers get into the groove, watch the bureaucrats go. There will be wads of new government regulations, and watchoxen agencies sprouting up (watchoxen agency is like a watchdog agency). There will be restrictions on oxen feed, how much work they can be made to do in a day, in a week. How much room they get to have when not working. Minimum age for an ox to be put to work. etc...


32 posted on 05/15/2011 7:23:08 AM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: central_va

“Farming with draft animals, while more time consuming, is VERY profitable. Ask the Amish about it.”

And I suppose you save thousands per year by riding your horse to work?

When my drafthorse hobbyist dad asks the local day-labor, carpenter crew, and cabinet shop Amish for horse advice, they say, “Back when we used to farm, we would...”

And “(t)he Amish would seem
especially vulnerable, as their farming methods cannot
generate the return per acre that mechanized farming
can, especially because of the acreage that must be
devoted to forage for horses.”
http://geography.ssc.uwo.ca/research/great_lakes_geographer/GLG_volume7/LoweryNoble.pdf
The Changing Occupational Structure of the
Amish of the Holmes County, Ohio, Settlement


33 posted on 05/15/2011 7:23:28 AM PDT by flowerplough (Thomas Sowell: Those who look only at Obama's deeds tend to become Obama's critics.)
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To: bkopto

Such a load of bull!


34 posted on 05/15/2011 7:23:28 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: bkopto

During the depression farmers made their own fuel using gasifiers.


35 posted on 05/15/2011 7:23:40 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: bkopto

Sounds like a liberal hobby farmer to me.


36 posted on 05/15/2011 7:23:59 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: bkopto
Oxen?

Around here, they just hitch a Deere to their plows.

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37 posted on 05/15/2011 7:24:31 AM PDT by digger48
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To: The_Reader_David
Marx despised rural life, which in his day still involved the use of draft animals, and seems to have mistakenly believed his fundamentally anti-human ideas would lead to an industrialized paradise in which worker-owned mechanized collective farms and factories would produce abundance for all.

Marx did not believe in the ideas that he authored. He propaganda was inspired and financed by the elite banksters who launched communism.

38 posted on 05/15/2011 7:24:41 AM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Yep, less food production, higher prices. The poor and low middle income will get hungrier and those on welfare will start screaming for more.


39 posted on 05/15/2011 7:25:04 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: bkopto

I never realized that there were so many FReepers from the city. Because only city people could read this article and believe it. Now, I don’t doubt but what these nitwits in Wisconsin have embarked on their own little save-the-earth-use-oxen experiment, but let’s not get carried away by extrapolating that it’s a widespread trend.


40 posted on 05/15/2011 7:25:20 AM PDT by BfloGuy
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To: bkopto

Hmmm, interesting.

Any ideas where to mount the gps guidance, planter and sprayer monitors? What about auto steer?(as in turning, not castration) :)


41 posted on 05/15/2011 7:25:55 AM PDT by farmer matt
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To: central_va

True but, they also have lots of kids to help out. How many people now days have more than 2 or 3 kids?


42 posted on 05/15/2011 7:27:09 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: cripplecreek

Burlaper, may own word for them.


43 posted on 05/15/2011 7:27:26 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: bkopto
Wow....and over the past few years, we have taught the Iraqis how to use hay-balers, disc harrows and other modern farming implements.

Iraq grow more modern while the US recedes to the old ways.

We've got to get that communist out of the White House and his fellow communists out of Congress.

44 posted on 05/15/2011 7:28:53 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: yldstrk

I read the Mail Online, pretty much daily. Good coverage of things American.


45 posted on 05/15/2011 7:29:19 AM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: MsLady

You are correct, even the Amish seem to stop at 3 or 4; but then I read they only have sex to have children, do not think I believe that one.????


46 posted on 05/15/2011 7:30:58 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

Huh???? I said most people don’t have more than 2 or 3 kids. The Amish usually have large families. So not sure what point your trying to make.


47 posted on 05/15/2011 7:34:06 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: BfloGuy

Thank you.

These aren’t people who farm to live. This guy sounds like he farms to be close to mother earth.


48 posted on 05/15/2011 7:34:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: central_va

I find that hard to believe. A team of ox simply can’t do the same amount of work per time unit, that a tractor can. Plus, oxen down time (sleep, eat, rest, sick) is, of necessity, considerably longer than a tractor downtime (refuel).

Oxen-farming, while nostalgically attractive, will raise costs and create shortages.


49 posted on 05/15/2011 7:35:12 AM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: bkopto
Obama is smiling. Somewhere, Karl Marx is smiling.

And Malthus.

Finally his predictions will come true.

50 posted on 05/15/2011 7:36:57 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 844 of our national holiday from reality. - OBL Dead? The TSA can go away!)
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