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To: allmendream
Yes, Creationists insist that some things of this natural world are, of a necessity - a miracle. And they scorn any attempt to discover a natural means whereby it could be explained. So if we know of natural means whereby I could be created “from dust” - does that mean that God is not my creator? No, of course it doesn't. If we know of natural means whereby Stars form - does that mean that God did not create them? No, of course it doesn't. And if someone comes up with a SCIENTIFIC (thus no miracles) explanation for how life could have plausibly formed via natural means - does that mean that God did not create life? No, of course it doesn't. Newton was sure to stress that by utilizing natural means to explain the movement of celestial bodies - he was in NO WAY suggesting that God was not ultimately responsible. Apparently over a hundred years later some people are still under the mistaken impression that unless God pulled out a miracle then HE cannot be said to be the Creator or otherwise responsible party. Ludicrous.

Peter says there were/are three different heaven/earth ages. That is just plain 'natural' to me. Peter also says that the 'first' heaven/earth age was destroyed and this earth is filled with the evidence that there was a global catastrophe that even jolted the earth from her natural axis. I readily await at the end of this flesh age the first grade lessons to the TOErs the literal meaning of that word 'natural'.

These flesh vessels were created for a specific purpose and have a time date expiration already set in motion. That too is just plain natural. It is the soul/spirit intellect that gets a face to face with their Creator on judgment day. That would be called 'supernatural' but no less 'natural'. Why? Because the so called wise are completely and totally obsessed with divining how these flesh bodies came into being and willfully ignore what the LORD God said when He foretold all things.

42 posted on 05/16/2011 10:27:10 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
“totally obsessed with divining how these flesh bodies came into being and willfully ignore what the LORD God said when He foretold all things”

Yeah, scientists are like TOTALLY obsessed with, like, finding things out about the physical world. They should just read the Bible - because according to justmythoughts if they don't they are following the path of the first rebel Satan - science is the way of Satan to you - but you have no ‘beef’ with it.

Discovering physical means to explain physical phenomena is science and it is the most productive way of learning about the physical world ever discovered. Figuring out (even if “totally obsessed”) how things happen physically doesn't remove God as the ultimate LOGOS behind creation.

But to some with a childlike mind and a woeful lack of education - unless God did magic it wasn't God who was responsible for its creation.

43 posted on 05/17/2011 6:35:53 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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