Skip to comments.Navy considers naming ship after Cesar Chavez
Posted on 05/16/2011 6:28:25 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
SAN DIEGO (AP) -- The Navy is considering naming a cargo ship that's being built after farmworker activist Cesar Chavez.
James Gill, a spokesman for General Dynamics NASSCO in San Diego, said Monday the company suggested the name to honor its mostly Hispanic work force and the mostly Hispanic neighborhood, Barrio Logan, where the boat builder is located.
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Naming any ship, even a garbage scow after that communist bastard would be criminal!
The US Navy wants to name a warship to honour an Hispanic and they are looking at Cesar Chavez?
If they really feel the need, how about the USS Horacio Rivero - named for a 4-star Admiral who served the United States during the Second World War (where he was decorated for his heroism at Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa), and again commanded a ship during the Korean War, serving ashore until well into the Vietnam War, and just for the heck of it, also commanded the US fleet during the Cuban Missile Crisis - not to mention serving as NATO Commander for Allied Forces, Southern Europe.
It’s not hard to find an Hispanic American hero who is worthy of having a ship named for him. This is just one example.
Funny thing is, he grew up in the Ag. business near Yuma, AZ.
Can anyone actually name one accomplishment of Caesar Chavez?
Other than getting a holiday named after him, and a whole slew of schools and streets named after him, was there anything that he actually accomplished in his life?
How about naming it for....
The President of the United States takes pride in presenting the MEDAL OF HONOR posthumously to
PRIVATE FIRST CLASS EUGENE A. OBREGON
UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS
for service as set forth in the following CITATION:
For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while serving with Company G, Third Battalion, Fifth Marines, First Marine Division (Reinforced), in action against enemy aggressor forces at Seoul, Korea, on September 26, 1950. While serving as an ammunition carrier of a machine gun squad in a Marine Rifle Company which was temporarily pinned down by hostile fire, Private First Class Obregon observed a fellow Marine fall wounded in the line of fire. Armed only with a pistol, he unhesitatingly dashed from his covered position to the side of the casualty. Firing his pistol with one hand as he ran, he grasped his comrades by the arm with his other hand and, despite the great peril to himself, dragged him to the side of the road. Still under enemy fire, he was bandaging the man’s wounds when hostile troops of approximately platoon strength began advancing toward his position. Quickly seizing the wounded Marine’s carbine, he placed his own body as a shield in front of him and lay there firing accurately and effectively into the hostile group until he himself was fatally wounded by enemy machine-gun fire. By his courageous fighting spirit, fortitude and loyal devotion to duty, Private First Class Obregon enabled his fellow Marines to rescue the wounded man and aided essentially in repelling the attack, thereby sustaining the highest traditions of the United States Naval Service. He gallantly gave his life for his country.
/S/ HARRY S. TRUMAN
That is a real American.
I’m OK with it if the agreement is that this is in lieu of a ship eventually being named for -0-.
Never mind, there already is a ship named for him. But the point stands, a Medal of Honor winner is a better choice than some community organizer.
"one of the people'
I lived in mid-coast California when he was most active. We were surrounded by lettuce fields. When he came to the area, My husband (with the Sheriffs Dept) would meet him at the hotel to provide escort to the fields.(He arrived from the airport in a chauffeur driven limo and dressed in $500 suits (this is the early '70's) - go into the hotel and change into well worn work clothes, come out and get into a old "clunker" and drive to the fields.
Phony through and through.
They'll have to call it the U.S.S. Uh ‘O’ or the U.S.S. ‘O’ Sh@t...
Hugo would be so proud!
If I was in the US Navy I would rather sail on the USS Edward James Olmos......
If it’s a garbage scow or target ship...ok. Otherwise...no way!
Sounds like ol cesar was just another community organizer.
If they wanted to name a ship after a real hero, I would suggest Roy Benevides. Although not Navy, he was a real hoss. No foolin. Look it up. Medal of honor award for rescuing a bunch of his buds while being shot up in the process. Not a peacock with a spanish surname.
"I thought you'd never ask"
Nah, it’s a wonder they don’t name something “Hugo Chavez”.
general dynamics nassco
contact James Gill at 619-544-8860 or James.Gill@nassco.com
>>Can anyone actually name one accomplishment of Caesar Chavez?<<
He introduced the American citizen to the term, “Wetback” while protesting outside a grocery store in Los Angeles which was being filmed for the local TV evening news.
It's not our Navy; we won't allowed it.
i don't think so...
but i still think it's a dumb idea to name a ship after him... he was a farmers' union leader... the guy who stood up for the grape pickers...
Coming from a family of mostly Navy volunteers, I almost became Navy -- during Vietnam (if the recruiter had been less aggressive I'd have signed up).
If the Navy is even considering this move, I can say am glad I am not Navy and offer my condolences to those who are; along with my heartfelt respects and salutes) to those who are/were. Clearly Navy would not have been the right service for me.
State of California fourth grade curriculum regarding Caesar Chavez’s Navy service
In 1944, César joined the United States Navy and served overseas for two years. While in the Navy he witnessed that other people suffered the pain of prejudice because they spoke different languages or were of different heritages. When he returned from the Navy he went returned to Delano to help his family work in the fields.
Thats real sad
It is about time that a US Navy name a ship after Lakota chiefs Sitting Bull or Crazy Horse.
agree re Roy Benevides
On February 24, 1981, President Ronald Reagan presented Roy Benavidez the Medal of Honor. Reagan reportedly turned to the press and said: “If the story of his heroism were a movie script, you would not believe it”. He then read the official award citation.
stood up for - or the original 'community organizer"?
See my post # 59
that's a riot! the sad thing is, his followers wouldn't be bothered by it...
God Bless them all. That is an awesome idea. Thank you !
Thanks for the reminder.
I had seen this news story awhile back, but could not remember the details.
Cesar Chavez was against illegal immigration.
That’s a fact, Jack.
We should honor Chavez by fighting illegal immigration.
I lived just south of Fresno at the time, and you are right.
However, he did not like illegals. He was a union man.
“We should honor Chavez by fighting illegal immigration.”
Yep...and we should likewise honor him by not naming a ship after him because of his union ties.
We have the stick it too ya president!
Every action Obama has taken is to poke our eye out with a stick!
Why can’t people see that
He never suffered nor did his family tree suffer in America!
Yet for some reason he feels he has a legit claim.
From the beganning of time there has been Black on Black crime starting in africa when Blacks sold Blacks into slavery!
Is he a Berber aka Barbary?
Berbers and the Islamic conquest
Ancient Man and His First Civilizations
Arab and Berber (Moor) paintings
Slaves and the Harem
Introduction The History of Slavery
Contrary to conventional thought, Slavery was NOT only endured by Blacks, all peoples have at one time or another been enslaved.
The irony is that it is Blacks who appear to have created the institution of Slavery.
As the creators of civilization, and the builders of the worlds first cities, Blacks logically were the first to have a need for slaves, as a source of free labor.
Slavery in ancient cultures was known to occur in civilizations as old as Sumer, and it was found in every civilization, including Ancient Egypt, the Akkadian Empire, Assyria, Ancient Greece, Rome and parts of its empire.
Years ago when Placido Domingo did the movie version of Otello in it was a possitive reflection on the Berbers even in those days we were being PC Scamed.
Placido Domingo - Esultate (Otello)
When did Jame Gill of General Dynamics represent our Navy?
“James Gill, a spokesman for General Dynamics NASSCO in San Diego, said Monday the company suggested the name to honor its mostly Hispanic work force and the mostly Hispanic neighborhood, Barrio Logan, where the boat builder is located.”
This decision shows the direction the Navy is heading. Naming a ship after Cesar Chavez goes right along with other recent decisions by the Navy that appear to be more about making a political statement than upholding the Navys history and tradition.
If this decision were about recognizing the Hispanic communitys contribution to our nation, many other names come to mind, including Marine Corps Sergeant Rafael Peralta, who was nominated for the Medal of Honor for action in Iraq. Peralta is one of many Hispanic war heroessome of whom are worthy of the same recognition.
And we cannot forget about John Finn, a lifelong San Diego resident who won the Medal of Honor for what he did during the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Finn is another worthy candidate that was evidently overlooked in the selection process.
This isn’t about anything he did in the Navy for those two years.
You are right, KA...he was a very strong opponent of illegal immigration. He was, also, very pro-Union, as you stated.
I lived in The Big Valley at the time he was in the news.
However, I don’t think any ship should be named after anyone other than those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for this great country.
It makes me sad to see the Navy being so PC...but they’ve been that way since my husband resigned his commission in 1976.
How Chavez was chosen is beyond my limited comprehension. Obviously, Politics trumps Honor in today's Military.
Agreed. I have seen some posts here that identified Sailors and Marines of HISPANIC Origin who paid the Ultimate Sacrifice for our Country.
How Chavez was chosen is beyond my limited comprehension. Obviously, Politics trumps Honor with THE CIVILIAN LEADERSHIP (OBAMA AND FRIENDS) WHO OVERSEE TODAY'S MILITARY.
The later it gets, the dumber I sound. Just ask anyone here. LOL
NO, NO, NO...abso-freakin-lutely NOT!!! That would only serve to make us, AND our military, look more complacent, and accepting...are there no more American heroes that actually DID something to earn respect and honor??