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Why the hell we ever embraced Pakistan over the far more civilized Indians will always elude me.


4 posted on 05/17/2011 6:50:06 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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India was somewhat loosely aligned with the Soviet Union, as I recall.

Having dangerous enemies can result in the selection of odd bedfellows. Just look at the USA and the Soviet Union in WWII.


12 posted on 05/17/2011 7:15:16 AM PDT by rlmorel (Capitalism is the Goose that lays The Golden Egg.)
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India hated Britain because of the colonial experience, and the Soviets anti-colonial rhetoric appealed to them. When Pakistan was partitioned out of India, they jumped at the United States’ offer of alliance. Of course, now that Islamism has creeped into the government, it’s not so much a good idea anymore.


24 posted on 05/17/2011 9:32:52 AM PDT by Shadow44
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Why the hell we ever embraced Pakistan over the far more civilized Indians will always elude me.

Extortion money.
26 posted on 05/17/2011 9:59:48 AM PDT by crosshairs (Say what you want about the South, but you never hear of anyone retiring and moving north.)
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Because the socialist Indians [read:Nehru and the Congress Party] were in love, and bed, with the U.S.S.R.


38 posted on 05/17/2011 11:09:17 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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Simple geography. If Afghanistan and India shared a controlled, undisputed border, you can bet we would much rather be dealing with them. Unfortunately were we to insist that India and Afghanistan share a border; essentially awarding the disputed state of Jammu and Kashmir to India, it would likely trigger a war between Pakistan and India, and the last thing we need is to be in the middle of a war between bitter nuclear neighbors.

Personally I think those provinces belong to India, not the breakaway Pakistan, but when you're trying to resupply troops in an entirely different nation, it's not the time to argue it. We're dealing with Pakistan because we have to; it's the simplest logistical solution.

That said, the real problem with Afghanistan continues to be Pakistan. Were it not for Pakistan, there would likely have never been a Taliban in the first place and without their continuing support, the resistance couldn't not exist now. It makes the long term prospects for victory in Afghanistan (at least as defined in terms of the absence of the Taliban) as highly problematic. Our enemies there are no more isolated than were the Viet Cong; they're being supplied and supported from nations with whom we cannot grapple militarily.

44 posted on 05/17/2011 11:58:54 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives"-Ataturk)
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BEcause we prefer muslims. We are either muslims ourselves, muslim sympathizers, or afraid of them. Muslim culture gave us the zero, so lets embrace it.

This is sooo typical and reminds me of when I was a kid in the 60s and couldn’t figure out why everybody, all the people in the country loved Israel, but the government was hostile toward them. (Then it was because they were socialist, now it’s because we’re kuffir.)


45 posted on 05/17/2011 12:40:31 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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49 posted on 05/17/2011 12:48:03 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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Why the hell we ever embraced Pakistan over the far more civilized Indians will always elude me.

It was a Cold War thing. Pakistan helped the US bury the Soviet Empire in Afghanistan.

62 posted on 05/17/2011 5:12:41 PM PDT by Sawdring
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Why the hell we ever embraced Pakistan over the far more civilized Indians will always elude me.

For one, they were on OUR side in the Cold War.

69 posted on 05/18/2011 6:37:40 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I'd rather be Plaxico Burress than Sean Taylor)
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