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Jewish Donors Outraged by 'Sociopath' Obama, Says Columnist
israel national news ^ | 5/18/11 | Gil Ronen

Posted on 05/18/2011 5:19:14 PM PDT by Nachum

If senior journalist David Goldman is right, the correct word for describing the way a growing number of US Jews feel about President Barack Obama is not 'anger' but 'rage' – white-hot rage, at that, and a conviction that they have been swindled.

Goldman, Senior Editor of First Things magazine and 'Spengler' columnist for Asia Times Online, spoke last week at a convention on intellectuals and terror at Ariel University in Samaria. In his lecture, he quoted a top Jewish campaign donor who used the word 'sociopath' to describe Obama. In an interview with Israel National News, he predicted a possibly dramatic 'train wreck' for the Democrats in the November mid-term elections, with Jewish fundraising for Democrats drying up and a possibly high turnout of anti-Obama evangelical Christians.

INN: The recent McLaughlin group poll shows US Jewish support of Obama at about half its level in the 2008 election. Is this an accurate reflection of the mood among US Jews?

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


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To: Viking2002

They still won’t give a nickel to Republicans.


51 posted on 05/18/2011 7:08:13 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: newzjunkey
Thanks for the info.
52 posted on 05/18/2011 7:08:13 PM PDT by danielmryan
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To: Nachum

To me it’s quite simple. I don’t know a Jewish individual that isn’t a businessman. Usually independent. Usually the majority are in, at least, the earner group between the billionnaires and the middle class. In case you haven’t noticed, for all the talk of taxing the rich and corporations (which we all know is a bunch of bull) That group of businesses are being hardest hit by Obamajad’s tax plans and his job killing Death Panel Bill. The Jews are finally seeing past the ideology to their pocket books.


53 posted on 05/18/2011 7:12:49 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: skeeter

“The evidence of who Obama really is was there for anyone who had eyes, ears and a functioning brain.”

Accurately stated, however, beware of a group of a-hole purported conservative Jews on FR that will badger you endlessly for daring to speak the truth.


54 posted on 05/18/2011 7:17:11 PM PDT by rj45mis
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To: ansel12
The Jews in Israel have compulsory service.

American Jews have supported the Democrat party over the GOP because the GOP is basically a Christian party.

Now that the Democrats are run by a muslim communist, Jewish support will wane.

55 posted on 05/18/2011 7:32:06 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Rome2000

Jews supported the Democrat party before they became the anti-Christian party.


56 posted on 05/18/2011 7:38:39 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: Nachum

I guess we should be happy they are at the party, albeit extremely late.

But why did a generally smart and savvy group of people fall for this film flam man in the first place?


57 posted on 05/18/2011 7:40:26 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: ronnie raygun

Who Let The Jews Out?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t7a66vbrN0


58 posted on 05/18/2011 8:11:59 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

This article is actually a year old.


59 posted on 05/18/2011 8:19:17 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: Nachum

This article is from a year ago, so why post it now?


60 posted on 05/18/2011 9:15:31 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

I missed the date. -Thought it still relevant.


61 posted on 05/18/2011 9:17:00 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: rbg81

“I don’t believe this for a second. Most of these Jews will continue to support Obama (or whoever the Dem nominee is) no matter what.”

Concur.


62 posted on 05/18/2011 9:38:42 PM PDT by flowerplough (Cuttlefish with asparagus.... or the vanilla paste?)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

“Do we have a Jewish Conservative that can run as VP??
Issa? Eric Cantor???”

Forget that - if Joe Lieberman ran for President, I don’t think even then, that they wouldn’t still vote for BHO.

It’s pathetic and scary, but like that old joke/quote - “I’d never join a club that would have me as a member”.


63 posted on 05/18/2011 10:34:18 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: avital2

“i think D Issa is of Arab descent, actually.”

His ancestry is Lebanese (as is that of Brigitte Gabriel, great American and activist against radical Islam). His grandparents were immigrants. Lebanon was traditionally a Christian country until Muslims attacked, bombed and burned most of it.

Issa’s interesting - an entrepreneur and CEO (the electronics company he founded employs about 150 people). Dropped out of high school to enlist in the Army, later going to college on an ROTC scholarship.


64 posted on 05/18/2011 11:00:36 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: The_Reader_David

“Issa is a Christian Arab American”

I read one bio that listed his religion as “Eastern Orthodox”, though I’m not sure what that means.

He’s definitely not Muslim, and that’s what really matters.


65 posted on 05/18/2011 11:08:38 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: Nachum

“and a conviction that they have been swindled.”

Well, DUH.....
Just what did they think was going to happen when they supported an unknown with a muslem background, who pals around with, and is supported by, some of the most hateful antisemitics and Israel-hating people America has to offer?

While it’s good they finally realize they got played, the damage their ignorance and stupidity has caused will take DECADES to recover from.


66 posted on 05/18/2011 11:08:55 PM PDT by tcrlaf (You can only lead a lib to the Truth, you can't make it think...)
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To: Viking2002
Liberal American Jews were the intellectuals of the Left and drove Democrat Party policy for the last 60 years.

However, in the last decade or so, they have lost touch with the evolution of the radicals on the left. The New Left is virulently anti - Semitic, hates Israel and the Jewish people in general and they are 100% supportive of Radical Islam, the destruction of Israel and creation of a new Palestinian State in place of Israel. At many US Universities, there is open talk of hatred of Jews and the need to "drive the Jews into the Sea". Even the aging Jewish leaders of the Radical Left are finally beginning to realize that the Radical world has left them behind and they are now the intended targets of the new revolution rather than the leaders of the Revolutionary Vangard, but it's too late.

Obama is the epitome of the New Left, and he has set in motion the events which will lead to a new 21st century pogrom and a disastrous war in the Middle East.

67 posted on 05/18/2011 11:16:41 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Nachum
Published: 05/12/10, 4:50 PM / Last Update: 05/12/10, 5:22 PM

I read the article, and it (course I do not consider myself an intellectual) is about BamBamKennedy stirring up the evangelical Christian support for Israel before last November's election.

68 posted on 05/18/2011 11:22:40 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: MacMattico

“I am not Jewish, but I don’t understand why any Jew would support him. He is an enemy of Israel pure and simple.”

The foundation of your outrage is the assumption that American Jewish people are loyal to Israel, which is a false assumption. Many, if not most, American Jewish people are not Zionist or are only weakly Zionist. After all, those with strong Zionist leanings make aliyah to Israel.

For the record, while I happen to be in Arizonia right now, I am a Sabra, born and raised Israeli whose parents happen to be USA citizens. (And so I am, too.)


69 posted on 05/19/2011 7:56:14 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: ansel12

“American Jews aren’t big on military service.”

That’s a lie.

Jewish Americans have served disproportionately to any other ethnic group in the military of the USA since the Revolutionary War.


70 posted on 05/19/2011 7:58:27 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

LOL, show me the numbers supporting that big load of nonsense.

Take a look at post 37 while you are at it.

By the way, it isn’t necessary to jump up all panicky and accuse people of being liars for something like this.


71 posted on 05/19/2011 8:22:51 AM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: Jewbacca

Let us hope the results in the recent Canadian election are a harbinger of things to come. There Jewish support for the Conservative party has gone up. A lot of that support is because of Harper strongly supporting Israel and the now finally noticed anti Israel positions of the left.


72 posted on 05/19/2011 8:25:39 AM PDT by xp38
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To: llandres

“Eastern Orthodox” is the common name for the original Christian Church. We Orthodox call ourselves “the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church”, but since the Patriarchate of Rome set up on its own in the 11th century and loudly calls itself “the Catholic Church” (we’ve always called them “the Latins” since they split off) we’ve needed a way of distinguishing us Catholics from “Catholics” and hit on Orthodox, which means “right believing” or more properly “right praising” in Greek (just like “Catholic” means “according to the whole” in Greek, indicating that each local church is equally The Church with every other local church.)

If you look in your New Testament, every local church mentioned, the local churches in the Acts of the Apostles, the addressees of St. Paul’s letters (including the church in Crete, where Timothy was going to be bishop), and the addressees of the Apocalypse of St. John, with the exception of Rome, is still in communion with each other, and part of the Orthodox Church.

I believe Congressman Issa is actually a member of the same Archdiocese as I am (the Antiochian Orthodox Christian Archdiocese of North America) — don’t ask about the sorry canonical state of the Orthodox Church in North America: every local church in the old world, except the Patriarchate of Alexandria, has “colonies” in America, rather than there being one local church like the canons require (hence “Greek Orthodox”, “Russian Orthodox”, . . . which Americans mistake for different denominations, even though we’re all in communion with each other). We’re trying to fix this, well some of the bishops are, including my own bishop, whose ancestors hail from a region in Syria, the Arabic name of which means “The Valley of the Christians” because the people there have been holding out against the jihad and maintaining their ancestral Christian faith since the 7th century.

As a curiosity for you, back in the ancestral lands of both Congressman Issa and my bishop, where folks speak Arabic, we Orthodox are called “Rum” meaning “Roman”, while everyone calls “Roman Catholics”, “Latin” (pronounced “Lateen” in Arabic).


73 posted on 05/19/2011 8:30:41 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: MacMattico
I am not Jewish, but I don’t understand why any Jew would support him. He is an enemy of Israel pure and simple.

Jewish voters take for granted that they can vote for socialists, but that conservatives will still make sure nothing bad happens to Israel.

They are just now realizing that they can no longer take that for granted. We have a lot of things to take care of, and Israel has gone lower on many people's priority lists.

74 posted on 05/19/2011 8:38:25 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: ansel12

There is nothing panicky about calling you the liar that you are.

You’ve actually been previously given the numbers and sources on FR regarding Jewish American military service (which is why you are liar — you know better).

Given that you disregarded the figures then, I am not going to bother to find them again for you.


75 posted on 05/19/2011 9:06:58 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

Rather than go so much against FR rules and make a purely personal attack, just post your data, are the Jewish military leaders quoted in post 37 lying?

It is pretty hard to respond to a hysteric poster that is just lashing out at someone.


76 posted on 05/19/2011 9:11:16 AM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: ansel12

Since you are to feebleminded to use Google, I’ll just leave you with this from Mark Twain:

“Postscript The Jew As Soldier

When I published the above article in Harper’s Monthly, I was ignorant - like the rest of the Christian world - of the fact that the Jew had a record as a soldier. I have since seen the official statistics, and I find that he furnished soldiers and high officers to the Revolution, the War of 1812, and the Mexican War. In the Civil War he was represented in the armies and navies of both the North and the South by 10 per cent. of his numerical strength - the same percentage that was furnished by the Christian populations of the two sections. This large fact means more than it seems to mean; for it means that the Jew’s patriotism was not merely level with the Christian’s, but overpassed it. When the Christian volunteer arrived in camp he got a welcome and applause, but as a rule the Jew got a snub. His company was not desired, and he was made to feel it. That he nevertheless conquered his wounded pride and sacrificed both that and his blood for his flag raises the average and quality of his patriotism above the Christian’s. His record for capacity, for fidelity, and for gallant soldiership in the field is as good as any one’s. This is true of the Jewish private soldiers and the Jewish generals alike. Major-General O. O. Howard speaks of one of his Jewish staff-officers as being “of the bravest and best”; of another - killed at Chancellorsville - as being “a true friend and a brave officer”; he highly praises two of his Jewish brigadier-generals; finally, he uses these strong words: “Intrinsically there are no more patriotic men to be found in the country than those who claim to be of Hebrew descent, and who served with me in parallel commands or more directly under my instructions.”

Fourteen Jewish Confederate and Union families contributed, between them, fifty-one soldiers to the war. Among these, a father and three sons; and another, a father and four sons.

In the above article I was not able to endorse the common reproach that the Jew is willing to feed upon a country but not to fight for it, because I did not know whether it was true or false. I supposed it to be true, but it is not allowable to endorse wandering maxims upon supposition - except when one is trying to make out a case. That slur upon the Jew cannot hold up its head in presence of the figures of the War Department. It has done its work, and done it long and faithfully, and with high approval: it ought to be pensioned off now, and retired from active service.”

http://classiclit.about.com/library/bl-etexts/mtwain/bl-mtwain-concerningjews.htm


77 posted on 05/19/2011 9:22:44 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca; ansel12
Jewish Americans have served disproportionately to any other ethnic group in the military of the USA since the Revolutionary War.

The DoD survey on religious diversity in the US military has 1.09% of military servicemembers listing "Jewish" as their religious preference, versus 1.7% in the general population (Pew survey in the same table).

78 posted on 05/19/2011 9:26:52 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Nachum

The Jews are going to have to pay the price for their support of Obama.


79 posted on 05/19/2011 9:28:31 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Get the BO out of the Executive Mansion.)
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To: MacMattico
I am not Jewish, but I don’t understand why any Jew would support him. He is an enemy of Israel pure and simple.

Jews are leftists first, Jews second.

80 posted on 05/19/2011 9:30:23 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Get the BO out of the Executive Mansion.)
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To: School of Rational Thought

BS. There are plenty of conservative Jews right on this forum including myself (well, born Jewish anyway). Ever hear of Mark Levin? David Horowitz? Ben Stein? Please do not lump us in with lefty Jews who are Jewish only by heritage and have no religion or love of God or country at all.


81 posted on 05/19/2011 9:41:44 AM PDT by ariamne (Proud shieldmaiden of the infidel--never forget, never forgive 9/11)
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To: Jewbacca

An apology for your irrational personal attacks would be more appropriate.


82 posted on 05/19/2011 9:43:28 AM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: ariamne; School of Rational Thought
Ever hear of Mark Levin? David Horowitz? Ben Stein?

Or playwright David Mamet?

83 posted on 05/19/2011 9:44:18 AM PDT by fullchroma
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To: ariamne
BS. There are plenty of conservative Jews right on this forum including myself (well, born Jewish anyway). Ever hear of Mark Levin? David Horowitz? Ben Stein? Please do not lump us in with lefty Jews who are Jewish only by heritage and have no religion or love of God or country at all.

Jews are leftists first, Jews second (not withstanding Jews who are not leftists and those who are Jewish only by heritage and have no religion or love of God or country at all)

84 posted on 05/19/2011 10:12:27 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Get the BO out of the Executive Mansion.)
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To: MacMattico
>>>I am not Jewish, but I don’t understand why any Jew would support him.<<<<

They are JINOs.

85 posted on 05/19/2011 11:13:20 AM PDT by DTA (U.S. Centcom vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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To: PapaBear3625

Maybe I read that wrong, but apples-to-apples (Pew defense to Pew overall population), it looks like 1.7% and 1.7%.


86 posted on 05/19/2011 11:57:16 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: School of Rational Thought

“Jews are leftists first, Jews second”

I am? This whole time of voting Republican and donating to FR must have been a mistake.


87 posted on 05/19/2011 11:59:08 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
In Table 1 in the link, the "DEOMI" column(1.09%) is from a survey of service members, the DMDC (0.32%) comes from what service members indicate on their paperwork as their religious preference. The remaining two columns (1.17 and 1.7%) are from surveys of civilians, and so indicate the percent of Jews in the civilian population).

The large discrepancy between the two military figures (1.09 versus 0.32) may represent how many people consider themselves ethnically Jewish versus how many consider themselves actually as believing Jews.

88 posted on 05/19/2011 12:31:24 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Jewbacca; ansel12
Here are some of the figures. The increasingly Romanized Air Force removed the page since 2006. I'll find new links and more info.

https://www.patrick.af.mil/deomi/Observances%20&%20Demographics/Additional%20Resources/Review%20of%20Data/Jewish%20Americans/rodj95.htm
Review of Data on Jewish Americans
(United States Air Force--citations on the Web page)
World War II

A summary of the war record of Jewish-American participants in World War II

Total population of the United
States.............................................135,000,000

Total Jewish population of the United
States.................................................4,500,000

Total number in the Armed Forces of the
U.S..................................................13,000,000

Jews serving in the Armed Forces of the
U.S.......................................................550,000

Percentage of Jews in the total
population...............................................3.33%

Percentage of Jews in the Armed
Forces......................................................4.23%

89 posted on 05/19/2011 2:29:17 PM PDT by familyop (Noachide follower. Not so Chassid, but mean enough.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Jews are leftists first, Jews second (not withstanding Jews who are not leftists and those who are Jewish only by heritage and have no religion or love of God or country at all) Not valid in California or North Dakota.


90 posted on 05/19/2011 2:37:56 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Get the BO out of the Executive Mansion.)
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To: familyop

Everyone knows that Jews served in the draft military of WWII, in fact 1 out of 3 Dentists and Doctors in the military were Jewish in WWII.

WWII with it’s massive draft where all branches drafted and the Army reached 97% draftees is definitely well known by everyone as having Jews well represented in it.


91 posted on 05/19/2011 2:43:31 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: PapaBear3625; Jewbacca; ansel12

There were higher percentages of Jews in proportion to their population percentages in the US military forces in most wars than others. On contemporary participation in the armed forces, I wouldn’t join now, either. I won’t even buy enough products or services to generate much in the way of revenues for this polytheistic debt regime.

Navy Authorizes Chaplains to Perform Same-Sex ‘Marriages’ in Naval Chapels
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2717127/posts

Obama tells Israel: Go back to 1967 borders (and Israel tells Obama to shove it!)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2722245/posts


92 posted on 05/19/2011 2:48:04 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: Nachum

This article is over a year old. (5/12/2010)


93 posted on 05/19/2011 2:54:06 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: familyop

No, Jews aren’t much for military service, that is why WWII is constantly used to give the impression that they flock to the recruiters.


94 posted on 05/19/2011 2:58:02 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: PapaBear3625; Jewbacca; ansel12

It’s likely that more Jews (large Sephardic community) fought the British in the American Revolution than Catholics. From the first federal census of 1790, Catholics comprised only about 6/10ths of a percent (0.6%) of the population of the thirteen original colonies (about 25,000 out of 3,939,000).

The number, 25,000 (Catholics), is from John Carroll (bishop), 1785.
First federal census:
http://www.census.gov/prod/www/abs/decennial/1790.html

“The six inquiries in 1790 called for the name of the head of the family and the number of persons in each household.”
(Census Bureau, 01 Jan 2011)
http://www.census.gov/prod/www/abs/decennial/1790.html


95 posted on 05/19/2011 3:01:43 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: familyop

What in the world does that have to do with the fact that Jews don’t much go for military service?

Going from Obama being President to a tiny Catholic population in 1790 is bizarre.


96 posted on 05/19/2011 3:10:51 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: familyop; ansel12; Jewbacca
The reason why there is a discrepancy in viewpoint is that you and Jewbacca are talking about historical times (WW2 and before) while ansel12 and I are talking about present time.

If we restrict the discussion to post-WW2, and particularly the Vietnam era and later, there is NOT a trend for Jews to join the military in excess to their population percent. My opinion is that a population segment which disproportionately identifies with the Left seems less likely to join a military which, after WW2, was engaged in fighting Communist and Leftist regimes.

97 posted on 05/19/2011 3:20:17 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: familyop

I’ve refuted his lies over-and-over, but like shoa-deniers, he just ignores facts.

Just some random color:

The Revolutionary War would have been lost but for George Washington’s friend Haym Solomon.

Commodore Uriah P. Levy compltely raised hell with the Brits in 1812.

The Confederate Secretary of War was Judah Philip Benjamin.

The 82nd Illinois (made famous in the Battle of Gettysburg) was comprised primarily of Jewish soldiers and led by Gen. Edward Selig Salomon, a Jew. He had two horses shot out from under him. Jewish blood was no small part of what made Gettysburg “hallowed ground.”

Hyman G. Rickover needs no introduction.

Admiral Jeremy Michael Boorda -— only Chief of Navel Operations to have risen to the position from the enlisted ranks. (He dropped out of HS and joined the Navy at 17.)

Etc.


98 posted on 05/19/2011 3:28:00 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca; familyop; ansel12
With all this arguing back-and-forth about Jews and the military, why has no one mentioned Yehoshu`a Bin Nun, David HaMelekh, or Yehudah (Maccabee)? What about the numerous wars recorded in the Bible? What about Sefer Milchamot HaShem (the Book of the Wars of HaShem), or for that matter the rebellions of the Zealots or Bar Kokhba'? Don't they count as Jews?

I don't get this almost universal tendency to de-Judaify ancient Jews because they don't meet modern Jewish stereotypes based on the Galut.

99 posted on 05/19/2011 3:33:21 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: Jewbacca

Jewbacca, you get hysterical, personal, and angry but you never refute anything, you merely attack.


100 posted on 05/19/2011 3:35:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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