Skip to comments.Newt on immigration: What if we had local boards who could legalize certain illegals?
Posted on 05/19/2011 7:22:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
I don’t know, guys. We’ve reached the point where the “Newt implosion” narrative has crystallized so thoroughly that every new story about him ends up being refracted through that prism. I don’t trust my own judgment at this point. Is this new bit genuinely toxic, as Ace’s co-blogger Gabe seems to think, or is it much ado about nothing?
Newt Gingrich, whose campaign for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination has gotten off to a rocky start, risked fresh controversy on Thursday by suggesting that some illegal immigrants living in the United States “may have earned the right to become legal.”…
Gingrich recounted how World War Two-era U.S. draft boards chose who would serve in the military, saying a similar system might help deal with the millions of immigrants living in the United States illegally.
“Because I think we are going to want to find some way to deal with the people who are here to distinguish between those who have no ties to the United States, and therefore you can deport them at minimum human cost, and those who, in fact, may have earned the right to become legal, but not citizens,” Gingrich said.
Here’s the complete quote via Radio Iowa:
This is, at the risk of as I do on occasion of getting into trouble with the news media, Gingrich said, in answering the question, and a few people in the audience chuckled. Im looking seriously at the way the Selective Service Act used to work in the 1940s and World War II where a local Selective Service board who knew the local people made the decisions because I think we are going to want to find some way to deal with the people who are here to distinguish between those who have no ties to the United States and therefore you can deport them at minimum human cost, and those who, in fact, may have earned the right to become legal, but not citizens.
That’s not totally alienating to the conservative base, right? You can imagine local amnesty draft boards designating illegals who’ve served in the military for special legalization privileges. (We already do it, kinda sorta.) As well as anyone else who has “ties to the United States,” which, er … could be millions of people.
Seriously, am I misreading this? Or does Newt know something about the imminent zombie apocalypse, leaving him willing to antagonize grassroots righties at every turn knowing that none of it will matter come Sunday? Exit quotation: “My reaction is if youre the candidate of very dramatic change, it youre the candidate of really new ideas, you have to assume theres a certain amount of clutter and confusion and it takes a while to sort it all out, because you are doing something different.”
Update: Greenroomer Patrick Ishmael e-mails to say that Newt made these comments in Waterloo, Iowa. And he is, apparently, a big Abba fan. So I guess this is obligatory…
At first I thought her strategy was to let these clowns destroy each other before stepping in. Now I realize all she has to do is wait for them to destroy themselves.
You have asked the question of the night.
For some unknown reason, exposure to Washington for an extended period makes people crazy.
Their sole allegiance is to the government itself -- not to the country and its voters.
They will never vote to diminish their God -- the government. They will only think in terms of what is doable within the confines of the behemoth. What the behemoth has done cannot have been wrong and, ipso facto, isn't subject to being "fixed".
So, we can only alter, adjust, re-organize and re-direct existing policy.
It has, indeed, become "Washington versus the rest of us."
It isn't funny. It's a very real -- and deadly --problem.
Very good depiction of the fool. Thanks.
I was just thinking Newt should change his name to NUT Gingrich because he’s giving L Ron a run for the loony toon Olympics.
Days ago, a conservative voter to Newt: “You’re an embarrassment. Get out before you make a bigger fool of yourself.”
Terry was one of a kind...
Good old Newt.
I will repeat my criteria. If they pay the upper income tax rate to the IRS for a minimum of three consecutive years , then being one of the taxpayers Democrats demonize, I would give them a green card. That way they will vote against socialists. Find a immigrant Hispanic being told he is ‘Not paying his fair share’ by a black president and you got a conservative.
Otherwise forget it, We got enough freeloaders already Newt, go to Hell!
Who liked Newt even before the Ryan plan comment anyway?
Excellent idea. Make the tickets RFID trackers and go pick up the purchasers for immediate deportation.
What if Newt, McLame and Grahamnesty et al started a new political party and leave what’s left of the Republican party to us?
What if we had internet chat boards that could certify Newt as bat-sh1t crazy?
Newt makes McCain look like he had it all together.
I guess us common folk just can't think like Newt.
Good job, Newt! LOL
OMG! Quick! Someone call 911! Newt is ODing on Stupid pills! On second thought, it’s probably too late. I think the dose is terminal. RIP, Newt!
Was it not Gingrich who claimed "The era of Reagan is over"?
Seems to me The Era of Gingrich lasted about 27-and-a-half hours before it self-destructed.
Someone memo Newt and let him now that he needs to STHU, kkthx. =.=
Newt just does not understand who he is. Newt is the guy who sat on the couch with Nancy Pelosi promoting a hoax. He does not see himself that way, but that is who he is and how we see him.
Thus, his past has made us suspicious of Newt and made him the wrong guy to offer up novel solutions in this campaign. Had he not sat on the couch with Pelosi there would not have been a big a storm about his Meet the Press answers.
Certainly a candidate who could speak to both the pro-business part of the GOP and the strong borders part of the GOP would be a good candidate. This is Newt’s attempt to offer a novel solution to immigration, but every time Newt offers a novel approach to a problem we see the guy sitting on the couch withe Pelosi.
No, he's getting encouragement from RINOs and the GOP. Hard to believe with his supposed intelligence that he cannot comprehend his globalist, overzealous efforts to compromise with democrats and his anti-conservative views and bashing are despicable and at the very least, very questionable.
It isn't funny. It's a very real -- and deadly --problem.
That indeed is the main problem.
Newt is still more conservative than Barack Obama. If he wins the nomination, he has my vote.
Why don’t you just follow the law instead of trying to get around it?
There was once a time years back where I thought I wanted a guy like Newt to run for president....
Now I just want him to shut the frick up and go away.
Amnesty by any other name, still stinks.
I am 72 years old, freep mail me if you want to know why circumcision is a bad idea, unless it is for religious reasons.
Newt is way past his shelf life.
Well they HAVE already shared a LOVESEAT.
(I'm going to spare everybody by not posting that picture again)
I wonder how many would be rejected in the Los Angeles local boards....
may have earned the right to become legal, but not citizens
Whoever thinks that they would not eventually become voters is a fool.
I see a parallel here. Israel gave Gaza to Palestine, and got a promise from the PLO that Israel had a right to exist. In 1986, congress promised that amnesty would fix illegal immigration forever.
How many betrayals does it take for these buffoons to learn?
They are talking to short term current Hispanic voters who may very well make things tough for Republicans in 2012. Republicans need a Hispanic election strategy different than amnesty or government spending their standard methods.
There is always a political angle with this.
No, we don't do it kinda sorta. You must be in a legal status to join the US military. Illegals cannot join the US military.
Newt is insane.
Geez, it would probably end up being led by a WH appointee. What a disaster a program like that would be.
Why are he even discussing a ompromise on this subject. It would all be very simple if the laws were just enforced.
Don’t worry Newt, I heard today that Chuckie Schumer feels sorry for you.
Ron Paul has some competetion, it would seem. Meth is reaching the highest levels.
I think it’s a great idea!
We could have local boards that deport people too.
And why stop there? We could have local boards that decide who should receive health care and who shouldn’t!
And maybe even local boards that exempt entire companies from healthcare laws!
This guy is really turning into badnews.He is infected by the swamp gases of dc.
From the absurd to the sublime.
As I posted previously about Newt, he’s toast before he was ever bread!!
“What if we had a fence?”
Newt is nuts. The clown opens his mouth and sends missives ricocheting all over worse than a .22 rf fired across a pond of still water.
What if we had local boards who could pay for and transport illegal aliens back across the southern border?
This RINO has-been has gone over the edge. Every idea he now has seems to turn intelligent dialog to crap.
newt is being a poster child to the media which is making the GOP look bad, his has-been attitude needs to go away for good. someone shut him up please.
How do you legalize illegals? Pretty soon, you'll legalize murder and rape; and grant them amnesty.
I can just hear him now:
"She deserved to be raped so we need to grant the rapist amnesty... I'm Newt Gingrich and I approve of this message."
I don't know who's nuttier; Gingrich or McCain.
How could I have been SO wrong...
The ones that keep getting rewarded are the politicians that have done nothing over 20 years about the border. Did you vote for any of them? Did you see any of the ones you voted for go all out to make border control the top issue? Were you one of the people on here bashing Buchanan? Im not saying you specifically but just raising the point. We , the votets, let them in.
You started your post ok, identfying the mess of deporting someone to a country who for all intents and purposes they never lived in. That is an estute point. But then to turn and say give that person a crash course in the language of the country where they are to be sent? That takes what you identified as a complex issue and trivializes it.
Something certainly must be done. But If anyone thinks it will be possible to deport them all just do the math. How many buses would it take just for starters? 12 million people at 50 people per bus.
Hey, how you doing? Remember the last time we talked. It was that thread where you were elequently supporting Newt. LOL. Weve all been there. No worries. Assessments change.
I just got back from a three week vacation (25th Wedding Anniversary!)
Isn’t Newt gone yet?
Newt has truly come undone. He has never considered that US residency allows one to live in (and use the benefits of) the *entire* US?
Allowing local authorities the power to decide who gets to live in the entire US is a textbook case of a decision level mismatch.
This is especially true given that we already have municipalities that openly flout US immigration law, widespread abuse of such institutions is a certainty, I.e. US residency will be handed out like candy.
Again: giving someone US residency (and eventually citizenship) allows a wide array of benefits and privilege that is provided by the rest of the US population in its entirety. Hence, deciding who gets to join the club is a federal responsibility.