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Newt on immigration: What if we had local boards who could legalize certain illegals?
Hotair ^ | 05/19/2011 | Allahpundit

Posted on 05/19/2011 7:22:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

I don’t know, guys. We’ve reached the point where the “Newt implosion” narrative has crystallized so thoroughly that every new story about him ends up being refracted through that prism. I don’t trust my own judgment at this point. Is this new bit genuinely toxic, as Ace’s co-blogger Gabe seems to think, or is it much ado about nothing?

Newt Gingrich, whose campaign for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination has gotten off to a rocky start, risked fresh controversy on Thursday by suggesting that some illegal immigrants living in the United States “may have earned the right to become legal.”…

Gingrich recounted how World War Two-era U.S. draft boards chose who would serve in the military, saying a similar system might help deal with the millions of immigrants living in the United States illegally.

“Because I think we are going to want to find some way to deal with the people who are here to distinguish between those who have no ties to the United States, and therefore you can deport them at minimum human cost, and those who, in fact, may have earned the right to become legal, but not citizens,” Gingrich said.

Here’s the complete quote via Radio Iowa:

“This is, at the risk of — as I do on occasion — of getting into trouble with the news media,” Gingrich said, in answering the question, and a few people in the audience chuckled. “…I’m looking seriously at the way the Selective Service Act used to work in the 1940s and World War II where a local Selective Service board who knew the local people made the decisions…because I think we are going to want to find some way to deal with the people who are here to distinguish between those who have no ties to the United States and therefore you can deport them at minimum human cost, and those who, in fact, may have earned the right to become legal, but not citizens.”

That’s not totally alienating to the conservative base, right? You can imagine local amnesty draft boards designating illegals who’ve served in the military for special legalization privileges. (We already do it, kinda sorta.) As well as anyone else who has “ties to the United States,” which, er … could be millions of people.

Seriously, am I misreading this? Or does Newt know something about the imminent zombie apocalypse, leaving him willing to antagonize grassroots righties at every turn knowing that none of it will matter come Sunday? Exit quotation: “My reaction is if you’re the candidate of very dramatic change, it you’re the candidate of really new ideas, you have to assume there’s a certain amount of clutter and confusion and it takes a while to sort it all out, because you are doing something different.”

Update: Greenroomer Patrick Ishmael e-mails to say that Newt made these comments in Waterloo, Iowa. And he is, apparently, a big Abba fan. So I guess this is obligatory…


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To: omega4179

At first I thought her strategy was to let these clowns destroy each other before stepping in. Now I realize all she has to do is wait for them to destroy themselves.


51 posted on 05/19/2011 8:00:57 PM PDT by ngat
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To: MCF
What happens to people when the go to DC??? They seem to enter a alternate state that is suspended from all reality. It is as if up, down, right, and left means something totally different to them then it does to the rest of the Nation. And, if you where to point it out to them, would stare at you in bewildered indignation.

You have asked the question of the night.

For some unknown reason, exposure to Washington for an extended period makes people crazy.

Their sole allegiance is to the government itself -- not to the country and its voters.

They will never vote to diminish their God -- the government. They will only think in terms of what is doable within the confines of the behemoth. What the behemoth has done cannot have been wrong and, ipso facto, isn't subject to being "fixed".

So, we can only alter, adjust, re-organize and re-direct existing policy.

It has, indeed, become "Washington versus the rest of us."

It isn't funny. It's a very real -- and deadly --problem.

52 posted on 05/19/2011 8:06:52 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: BobP

Very good depiction of the fool. Thanks.


53 posted on 05/19/2011 8:09:01 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Joe 6-pack

I was just thinking Newt should change his name to NUT Gingrich because he’s giving L Ron a run for the loony toon Olympics.

Days ago, a conservative voter to Newt: “You’re an embarrassment. Get out before you make a bigger fool of yourself.”

—Too late.


54 posted on 05/19/2011 8:11:11 PM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: Pelham

Yes

Terry was one of a kind...


55 posted on 05/19/2011 8:13:02 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: SeekAndFind; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; ...
RE :”“Because I think we are going to want to find some way to deal with the people who are here to distinguish between those who have no ties to the United States, and therefore you can deport them at minimum human cost, and those who, in fact, may have earned the right to become legal, but not citizens,” Gingrich said.

Good old Newt.

I will repeat my criteria. If they pay the upper income tax rate to the IRS for a minimum of three consecutive years , then being one of the taxpayers Democrats demonize, I would give them a green card. That way they will vote against socialists. Find a immigrant Hispanic being told he is ‘Not paying his fair share’ by a black president and you got a conservative.

Otherwise forget it, We got enough freeloaders already Newt, go to Hell!

Who liked Newt even before the Ryan plan comment anyway?

56 posted on 05/19/2011 8:13:06 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: smokingfrog

Excellent idea. Make the tickets RFID trackers and go pick up the purchasers for immediate deportation.


57 posted on 05/19/2011 8:16:55 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (There's a reason the mascot of the Democratic Party is a jackass.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What if Newt, McLame and Grahamnesty et al started a new political party and leave what’s left of the Republican party to us?


58 posted on 05/19/2011 8:17:41 PM PDT by Avery Iota Kracker (Why get 'er done, when you can get 'er did twyst as fast.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What if we had internet chat boards that could certify Newt as bat-sh1t crazy?


59 posted on 05/19/2011 8:18:41 PM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Newt makes McCain look like he had it all together.


60 posted on 05/19/2011 8:20:11 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: SeekAndFind
So his argument drafting young men to fight the Nazis and Japanese is equivalent to letting illegals stay in the country???
And this guy Newt is supposed to be smart?!?!

I guess us common folk just can't think like Newt.

61 posted on 05/19/2011 8:20:21 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Those who endured Valley Forge didn't make their sacrifice to give us free health care)
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To: SeekAndFind
Got to be a record for blowing up your candidacy within one week.

Good job, Newt! LOL

62 posted on 05/19/2011 8:27:35 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: SeekAndFind

OMG! Quick! Someone call 911! Newt is ODing on Stupid pills! On second thought, it’s probably too late. I think the dose is terminal. RIP, Newt!


63 posted on 05/19/2011 8:32:40 PM PDT by catnipman
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To: sickoflibs
Who liked Newt even before the Ryan plan comment anyway?

Was it not Gingrich who claimed "The era of Reagan is over"?

Seems to me The Era of Gingrich lasted about 27-and-a-half hours before it self-destructed.

64 posted on 05/19/2011 8:34:13 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: SeekAndFind

Someone memo Newt and let him now that he needs to STHU, kkthx. =.=


65 posted on 05/19/2011 8:38:25 PM PDT by cranked
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To: OKSooner

Newt just does not understand who he is. Newt is the guy who sat on the couch with Nancy Pelosi promoting a hoax. He does not see himself that way, but that is who he is and how we see him.

Thus, his past has made us suspicious of Newt and made him the wrong guy to offer up novel solutions in this campaign. Had he not sat on the couch with Pelosi there would not have been a big a storm about his Meet the Press answers.

Certainly a candidate who could speak to both the pro-business part of the GOP and the strong borders part of the GOP would be a good candidate. This is Newt’s attempt to offer a novel solution to immigration, but every time Newt offers a novel approach to a problem we see the guy sitting on the couch withe Pelosi.


66 posted on 05/19/2011 8:39:28 PM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: savedbygrace
GOOD GRIEF! CAN’T ANYONE SHUT HIM UP???!!!???

No, he's getting encouragement from RINOs and the GOP. Hard to believe with his supposed intelligence that he cannot comprehend his globalist, overzealous efforts to compromise with democrats and his anti-conservative views and bashing are despicable and at the very least, very questionable.

67 posted on 05/19/2011 8:48:39 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: okie01
It has, indeed, become "Washington versus the rest of us."

It isn't funny. It's a very real -- and deadly --problem.

That indeed is the main problem.

68 posted on 05/19/2011 8:56:45 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: SeekAndFind

Newt is still more conservative than Barack Obama. If he wins the nomination, he has my vote.


69 posted on 05/19/2011 9:00:01 PM PDT by Sarabaracuda (I, Sarabaracuda, do hereby swear to support the Republican nominee for president.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why don’t you just follow the law instead of trying to get around it?


70 posted on 05/19/2011 9:04:03 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: SeekAndFind

There was once a time years back where I thought I wanted a guy like Newt to run for president....

Now I just want him to shut the frick up and go away.


71 posted on 05/19/2011 9:07:24 PM PDT by Bullish (the golfer gets all the credit while the jet fighter pilot gets all the blame.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Amnesty by any other name, still stinks.


72 posted on 05/19/2011 9:12:02 PM PDT by itsahoot (We make jokes, they make progress. Dimmitude, get used to it.)
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To: muawiyah

I am 72 years old, freep mail me if you want to know why circumcision is a bad idea, unless it is for religious reasons.


73 posted on 05/19/2011 9:15:18 PM PDT by itsahoot (We make jokes, they make progress. Dimmitude, get used to it.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Insanity...draft boards comprised of SEIU, ACORN and SHIRA fanatics....

Newt is way past his shelf life.

74 posted on 05/19/2011 9:17:50 PM PDT by spokeshave (Obamas approval ratings are so low, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the USA.)
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To: unkus
He and McCain need to share a padded cell with Pelosi and the rest of the idiots.

Well they HAVE already shared a LOVESEAT.

(I'm going to spare everybody by not posting that picture again)

75 posted on 05/19/2011 9:20:24 PM PDT by Bullish (the golfer gets all the credit while the jet fighter pilot gets all the blame.)
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To: sickoflibs; SeekAndFind; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; Liz
I’m looking seriously at the way the Selective Service Act used to work in the 1940s and World War II where a local Selective Service board who knew the local people made the decisions…because I think we are going to want to find some way to deal with the people who are here

I wonder how many would be rejected in the Los Angeles local boards....

may have earned the right to become legal, but not citizens

Whoever thinks that they would not eventually become voters is a fool.

I see a parallel here. Israel gave Gaza to Palestine, and got a promise from the PLO that Israel had a right to exist. In 1986, congress promised that amnesty would fix illegal immigration forever.

How many betrayals does it take for these buffoons to learn?

76 posted on 05/19/2011 9:24:48 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; SeekAndFind; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; ...
RE :"How many betrayals does it take for these buffoons to learn?"

They are talking to short term current Hispanic voters who may very well make things tough for Republicans in 2012. Republicans need a Hispanic election strategy different than amnesty or government spending their standard methods.

There is always a political angle with this.

77 posted on 05/19/2011 9:33:11 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: SeekAndFind

AIDS dementia?


78 posted on 05/19/2011 9:39:02 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...My theory is, college student body presidents become DEMS orRINO's.)
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To: SeekAndFind
You can imagine local amnesty draft boards designating illegals who’ve served in the military for special legalization privileges. (We already do it, kinda sorta.)

No, we don't do it kinda sorta. You must be in a legal status to join the US military. Illegals cannot join the US military.

79 posted on 05/19/2011 9:40:17 PM PDT by kabar
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To: bcsco; HiJinx; gubamyster; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Avoiding_Sulla; calcowgirl; BufordP; ...

Newt is insane.


80 posted on 05/19/2011 9:41:18 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: SeekAndFind

Geez, it would probably end up being led by a WH appointee. What a disaster a program like that would be.

Why are he even discussing a ompromise on this subject. It would all be very simple if the laws were just enforced.


81 posted on 05/19/2011 9:45:14 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t worry Newt, I heard today that Chuckie Schumer feels sorry for you.


82 posted on 05/19/2011 9:54:38 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (We live two lives, the life we learn and the life we live with after that.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yes, that draft board type set-up should work real well. The Draft Board before the lottery was set up was fair and equitable because the people on the board knew the people in the area------- IN A PIGS EYE.

I came from a town of 13K people, mostly poor working class. About five miles away is a town with the same population of mostly upper middle class and wealthy people. Our town had 18 killed in VietNam, the other town, 1. It was a guarantee in our town that within six months of graduation, if you weren't able to pay for college, you were drafted.

The way Newt's idea will work, criminal aliens (the left says that no person can be illegal so since they broke the law coming into the country, they are criminals) who work for wealthy people will get amnesty.

Incidently, I found a foolproof way to beat the draft- I enlisted towards the end of my senior year and was in Parris Island a week after graduation and by November I had my acceptance papers for DaNang university.
83 posted on 05/19/2011 9:55:03 PM PDT by Free_SJersey (Celebrate Diversity------------ Divide and Conquer?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ron Paul has some competetion, it would seem. Meth is reaching the highest levels.


84 posted on 05/19/2011 9:56:20 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think it’s a great idea!

We could have local boards that deport people too.

And why stop there? We could have local boards that decide who should receive health care and who shouldn’t!

And maybe even local boards that exempt entire companies from healthcare laws!

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85 posted on 05/19/2011 9:59:43 PM PDT by MV=PY
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To: SeekAndFind

This guy is really turning into badnews.He is infected by the swamp gases of dc.


86 posted on 05/19/2011 10:02:37 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: SeekAndFind

From the absurd to the sublime.

As I posted previously about Newt, he’s toast before he was ever bread!!


87 posted on 05/19/2011 10:11:55 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Go green - recycle Congress in 2012!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“What if we had a fence?”


88 posted on 05/19/2011 10:12:54 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Palin / Hunter 2012)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


89 posted on 05/19/2011 10:21:03 PM PDT by HiJinx (Old Cold Warrior)
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To: SeekAndFind

Newt is nuts. The clown opens his mouth and sends missives ricocheting all over worse than a .22 rf fired across a pond of still water.


90 posted on 05/19/2011 10:35:41 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Being an autodidact, I happily escaped the bureaucratization of intellect)
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To: SeekAndFind
Newt on immigration: What if we had local boards who could legalize certain illegals?

What if we had local boards who could pay for and transport illegal aliens back across the southern border?

This RINO has-been has gone over the edge. Every idea he now has seems to turn intelligent dialog to crap.

91 posted on 05/19/2011 10:38:05 PM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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To: SeekAndFind

newt is being a poster child to the media which is making the GOP look bad, his has-been attitude needs to go away for good. someone shut him up please.


92 posted on 05/19/2011 10:39:25 PM PDT by Dominic01 (Political correctness has become a psychosis)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hey Newt, have you ever heard of the United States Constitution and the Rule of Law?

How do you legalize illegals? Pretty soon, you'll legalize murder and rape; and grant them amnesty.

I can just hear him now:

"She deserved to be raped so we need to grant the rapist amnesty... I'm Newt Gingrich and I approve of this message."

I don't know who's nuttier; Gingrich or McCain.

93 posted on 05/19/2011 10:41:37 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: KrisKrinkle
Some places, like San Francisco Antonio, would establish boards that would legalize every illegal that came before them.
94 posted on 05/19/2011 10:42:31 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: ltc8k6
I hope to God no one remembers a few years back when I used to actively support and defend this guy.

How could I have been SO wrong...

95 posted on 05/19/2011 10:52:02 PM PDT by FunkyZero ("It's not about duck hunting !")
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To: ltc8k6

The ones that keep getting rewarded are the politicians that have done nothing over 20 years about the border. Did you vote for any of them? Did you see any of the ones you voted for go all out to make border control the top issue? Were you one of the people on here bashing Buchanan? Im not saying you specifically but just raising the point. We , the votets, let them in.


96 posted on 05/20/2011 12:12:40 AM PDT by BJungNan (Spend yesterday's money good, today's money ok. Never spend tomorrow's money)
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To: muawiyah

You started your post ok, identfying the mess of deporting someone to a country who for all intents and purposes they never lived in. That is an estute point. But then to turn and say give that person a crash course in the language of the country where they are to be sent? That takes what you identified as a complex issue and trivializes it.

Something certainly must be done. But If anyone thinks it will be possible to deport them all just do the math. How many buses would it take just for starters? 12 million people at 50 people per bus.


97 posted on 05/20/2011 12:24:55 AM PDT by BJungNan (Spend yesterday's money good, today's money ok. Never spend tomorrow's money)
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To: FunkyZero

Hey, how you doing? Remember the last time we talked. It was that thread where you were elequently supporting Newt. LOL. Weve all been there. No worries. Assessments change.


98 posted on 05/20/2011 12:30:19 AM PDT by BJungNan (Spend yesterday's money good, today's money ok. Never spend tomorrow's money)
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To: SeekAndFind

I just got back from a three week vacation (25th Wedding Anniversary!)

Isn’t Newt gone yet?


99 posted on 05/20/2011 1:30:43 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Trickle Up Poverty.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Newt has truly come undone. He has never considered that US residency allows one to live in (and use the benefits of) the *entire* US?

Allowing local authorities the power to decide who gets to live in the entire US is a textbook case of a decision level mismatch.

This is especially true given that we already have municipalities that openly flout US immigration law, widespread abuse of such institutions is a certainty, I.e. US residency will be handed out like candy.

Again: giving someone US residency (and eventually citizenship) allows a wide array of benefits and privilege that is provided by the rest of the US population in its entirety. Hence, deciding who gets to join the club is a federal responsibility.


100 posted on 05/20/2011 1:36:23 AM PDT by globelamp
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