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The Pimp and The Poster (Mod Lecture Series)
FR | Admin Moderator

Posted on 05/19/2011 8:28:06 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

In the ancient city of London, on a certain autumn day in the second quarter of the sixteenth century, a boy was born to a poor family of the name of Canty.. oh wait, that’s not how this goes. Let’s try again.

Imagine for a moment an old farm on the edge of the interstate. This farm has been a part of the community for years. All of the farmer’s friends love to come to the farmer’s house for meals and conversation. Sometimes, the farmer’s friends like to put up a sign on the land, right along the interstate, when election time comes around, asking people to vote for their favorite candidate. Other times, they have put up signs welcoming soldiers home. The farmer welcomes this and beams with pride that he has this land that he can let his friends do this.

Then one day, a new neighbor moves in nearby. He decides that the farmer’s land is a great spot to put up a billboard for his business so one day, he starts putting up billboard after billboard all along the farmer’s land. Sure, it is great land, and he has seen others put up signs before, so what’s the harm? Before you know it, the farmer’s land is covered with billboards. The worst part, the new neighbor never even asked the farmer if he could put up the signs or what signs were OK. Did the farmer only want short signs, tall signs, brown signs? The neighbor didn’t care to ask, nor did he care what the farmer thought. He only knew that the farmer’s land was next to the interstate and he wanted it.

Thus is the tale of The Pimp and The Poster.
It seems there has been a lot of conversation about what we consider ‘pimping’ versus acceptable in the “Bloggers” forum. If this tale didn’t get to the point, we’ll make it a little simpler. The difference between The Pimp and The Poster is one comes here solely for the purpose of ‘cross-linking’ and the other comes here to be part of the community. Cross-linking or as some put it ‘pimping’ is the use of one site’s reputation with search engines or popularity for the purpose of advertising your website. If you search for advice on how to promote your site, you’ll see thousands of articles recommending this. Many of these sites and articles actually recommend Free Republic as one of these sites because of its instant high rankings for Google results. We even found several conservative sites recommending this. For example:http://constitutionclub.org/2011/05/10/some-sage-advice-for-the-conservative-blogger/
So it comes down to intention. Do you want to use the site for free advertising or do you want to be part of the community?

Original Content
Something that has popped up a lot is blogs not posting original content. For example, a blog may take a video from Fox News, post it on their site with no commentary, and then post it in the bloggers forum as their own. If the content is not your own or original to the blog it is posted on, post to the original source only. Exceptions to this can be made if the blog provides unique commentary on it, such as critical analysis or debunking.

What about the Pimp Busters?
One thing that seems controversial are members who have decided to become Pimp Busters. While not everyone agrees with what they do, we actually saw some value in keeping the leash a little longer for them. Unlike popular myth, mods don’t like zotting people. We want to keep members. Sometimes when new members show up they may not know the ropes and think this is just another site they can cross-post on. The pimp-busters have acted in a way, like a gauntlet to weed out the spammers from people who want to be part of the community. We attempted to have a Free Republic ‘welcome wagon’ where new members were shown the ropes and welcomed into the community. This backfired. Personal squabbles followed those who wanted to be part of the welcome wagon and ‘pimps’ simply ignored them. The Pimp Busters seemed to pop up shortly after. Consider them a trial by fire. Is your skin thick enough to stand the debate here? Are you here to just spam or be part of the community? How people react to others gives a good sign as to their intention. Most pimps who have been zotted were either because it was obvious they were spammers, posting dozens to hundreds of articles with no replies. Others showed their true colors and got nasty with members. The untold story is the far greater number of new members who passed through the gauntlet and have become active participants. Are the Pimp Busters mods or have any official power? No. They are members like any other.

News versus Blogs?
Another question comes up often as many bloggers seem to think that they are news-worthy. This also applies to posting from other blog sources. This can be a touchy subject because the MSM is often less trustworthy than those who comment on them. To keep this simple, we look at a few guidelines. If it is based on a blog platform (Blogger, Wordpress, etc) but not affiliated with a major news site, it should be considered a blog first and depending on the subject or author, you can ask for it to be moved. If it is a site that anyone and their grandmother can sign up to write for with no indication of their actual knowledge, such as The Examiner, it is considered a blog. If it not unique news but simply a commentary on other news by someone not noteworthy, it should be considered bloggers. News should be left to articles that are new and/or noteworthy. If you feel as though you found a blog article that meets that criteria, post it in bloggers and write a note to the mods to see if they will move it. Being nice about it goes a long way to.

As always, it is best to just ask. We can’t answer every note that comes in just because we can get overwhelmed, but we do try. We hope that answers some questions for this week.


TOPICS: Announcements; Free Republic
KEYWORDS: adminlectureseries; blog; bloggers; blogpimp; dontpimpyourblogonfr; freerepublic; lecture; lore; mod; modlectureseries; pimp; pimpbusters; series
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To: shibumi

I’m stopping at one. My first took everything except the jewels and I still have nightmares about her coming back and taking those.


41 posted on 05/19/2011 10:26:35 PM PDT by 50mm ( I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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To: Admin Moderator

But I can still post stuff about my socks in Breaking News, right?


42 posted on 05/19/2011 11:30:32 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: shibumi
I always heard that the Antarctic Base was quite .....interesting.....

Don't ever try to get a pizza delivered there...

43 posted on 05/19/2011 11:32:58 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Last Dakotan
No but he once wrote a great story about a frog.
44 posted on 05/19/2011 11:40:44 PM PDT by Salamander (I'm your pain.)
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To: 50mm
Hel Hunden.


45 posted on 05/19/2011 11:44:41 PM PDT by Salamander (I'm your pain.)
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To: razorback-bert

Oliver Reed.


46 posted on 05/19/2011 11:46:53 PM PDT by Salamander (I'm your pain.)
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To: shibumi; Admin Moderator

Y’all *know* that scary things thawing out of glaciers give me nightmares.

Stop that.


47 posted on 05/19/2011 11:48:41 PM PDT by Salamander (I'm your pain.)
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To: Admin Moderator

To the tune of “Money for nothing” by Dire Straits

I’ll pimp my, I’ll pimp my blog for free

(Mark Knopfler guitar intro)

Now look at them blog pimps, that’s the way you do it
Just post an excerpt and wait and see
That ain’t workin’, that’s the way you do it
Money for nothing and your hits for free

Now that ain’t workin’, that’s the way you do it
Let me tell you them guys ain’t dumb
Maybe get a blister on your little finger
Maybe get a Cheetos stain on your thumb

We got some people who’ll run interference
To keep humblegunner off-of-me
We got to bribe them Moderators
We got to shut up that guy shibumi

The little twit with the fedora and the glasses
Yeah buddy, that’s a real mustache
That little twit is the Dean of Bloggers
That little twit he’s raking in the cash

That ain’t workin’, now’s the time to do it
While JimRob’s busy with the FReep-a-thon

We got some people who’ll run interference
To keep TheOldLady off-of-me
We got to be nice to them Moderators
We got to silence them pimp police

Look at that, look at that
I should have learned to develop a blog
I should have learned to type real good
Look at that, all that free bandwidth
Man we can have some
Oh, that ain’t workin’, that’s the way you do it
Get your money for nothing get your hits for free

We got some people who’ll run interference
To keep them Pimpbusters off-of-me
We got to fool them Moderators
We got to silence that guy Larry

Listen here
Now that ain’t workin’, that’s the way you do it
Pimp your blog on Jim’s site for free
That ain’t workin’, that’s the way you do it
Money for nothing and your hits for free
Money for nothing and your hits for free

Get your money for nothing, get your hits for free
Money for nothing, hits for free
Look at that, look at that
Get your money for nothing, get your hits for free

(I’ll pimp my, I’ll pimp my, I’ll pimp my blog for free)

Money for nothing and your hits for free
Easy, easy

That ain’t workin’

48 posted on 05/20/2011 3:03:45 AM PDT by Semper Mark (Vlad Tepes was a piker.)
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To: Admin Moderator
Thanks for not excerpting!

What about the Pimp Busters?

Those folks? I think they can be a bit obnoxious at times but they mean well.

To carry your farmer theme a little further...

A few of the farmer's friends noticed the greedy neighbor's
signs cluttering up the roadside fenceline. Knowing that the
farmer and the other folks that worked there were busy with the
running of the farm, these few of the farmer's friends decided
to take down some of these signs. In fact, sawed them up and
tossed them over the fence back onto the greedy neighbor's property.

49 posted on 05/20/2011 3:57:16 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Markos33

Now I’ll have that tune running through my head all day.


50 posted on 05/20/2011 4:06:37 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Admin Moderator

Thank you for the clarifications.

BTTT


51 posted on 05/20/2011 4:59:56 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Admin Moderator
To recap in a haiku:

Clear Friday morning,
Admin Mod remind us all:
"Thou Must Not Blog-pimp."

52 posted on 05/20/2011 5:13:37 AM PDT by Jonah Hex ("To Serve Manatee" is a cookbook!)
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To: shibumi

We could use a good mascot. Those dogs (That dog?) fits the bill.


53 posted on 05/20/2011 5:15:21 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: humblegunner
In the case of blog pimp flameouts, I have a better analogy.

The blog pimps are like someone who sneaks into the farmer's cornfield and puts in a marijuana patch.

And when the farmer finds the patch, pulls the plants out by the roots and tosses the plants into the neighbor's yard, the neighbor gets all mad and calls the cops to complain.

With predictable results.

54 posted on 05/20/2011 5:38:18 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Admin Moderator; humblegunner; stolinsky
HG, the Mods see your work as valuable. Sign me on the PimpBusters Clan.

Stolinsky, there's a lot for you to learn here. You became nasty, and all I threatened to do was eat your children.

55 posted on 05/20/2011 5:43:55 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: Admin Moderator

Well crafted analogy. Very informative and entertwaining.


56 posted on 05/20/2011 5:48:32 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Admin Moderator

Your explanation of the pimpbusters is powerful and important.

Thank you.


57 posted on 05/20/2011 5:50:34 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: thackney; 50mm; humblegunner; shibumi; Larry Lucido; Eaker; Allegra; Salamander; ...

58 posted on 05/20/2011 5:56:17 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

Outstanding!


59 posted on 05/20/2011 5:57:50 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: eastforker
Those Twains are riding kinda close if you ask me!

Indeed they are, I think she needs a twaining bwa.

60 posted on 05/20/2011 6:02:26 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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