Skip to comments.Report: Hincapie tells feds Armstrong used PEDs
Posted on 05/20/2011 4:20:35 PM PDT by Vision
NEW YORK (AP) A report by "60 Minutes" says George Hincapie, a longtime member of Lance Armstrong's inner circle, has told federal authorities he saw the seven-time Tour de France winner use performance-enhancing drugs...
Hamilton said he also used PEDs with Armstrong.
Hincapie has often been depicted as one of Armstrong's most loyal teammates and was with him for all seven Tour victories. In an interview last year, Armstrong said Hincapie was "like a brother to me."
Armstrong has steadfastly denied doping...
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Fair enough. But the Feds are coming.
I coached a junior team in the 80’s. Hincapie was a monster of a rider even then. I always had the impression he was a decent guy.
Good. Bring it, FEDS. If the evidence is overwhelming and they get a conviction, I'll reassess my opinion. Fair enough.
I fear you are correct.
I don’t care what anyone says. Armstrong is still the best cyclist of all time.
Later, Hincapie released a statement through his attorney: "I can confirm to you that I never spoke with '60 Minutes.' I have no idea where they got their information. As I've said in the past, I continue to be disappointed that people are talking about the past in cycling instead of the future. As for the substance of anything in the '60 Minutes' story, I cannot comment on anything relating to the ongoing investigation."Hincapie has been implicated by other people in doping, but has never confessed. I'm not sure why there is a grand jury, because as far as I can tell there is nothing illegal about performance-enhancing drugs. But he'd have to have been careful, because if he DID testify, then anything he said now could be used to get him for perjury.
The never married and broke up years ago.
Can someone explain to me what we gain from this? This is all for a fraud investigation really? It seems almost like they are creating the fraud to then punish. None of the sponsors would have any claim to being defrauded or not having got their money’s worth without these investigations now well after the fact.
I am a fan of Lance’s and very much want to believe that he was clean. If he wasn’t then so be it, I wouldn’t care too much if he were a normal athlete that I liked. He is not. Livestrong appears to be a very good charity. To destroy Lance is to destroy Livestrong. I think that is a very bad thing and I don’t see how anyone can see any good from it that outweighs that bad.
From now on try reading comments that to you appear uninformed, as being tongue in cheek. You’ll have more fun!
Can't see that as tongue in cheek. Sorry.
No apologies necessary (I’m blushing.) It’s just my style - no sarcasm tags!
No... Armstrong is the best Tour de France rider of all time.
Eddy Mercx is the best cyclist of all time - their records don’t even begin to compare.
Sorry - Merckx. Need to proofread...
I thought it was funny...
Well, here it is The full story on testimony from Hamilton, Hinacpie and more
Because Congress wants to show that everybody is a fraud except for them.
Why, after all these years, is this happening? Does he need money? Book deal? Movie deal? I’m not fully convinced...................
Well Bay, Hincapie has said nothing in public and his grand jury testimony hasn’t been released, so what he may have said is not certain at this point.
As to Tyler, here’s the UCI’s official response to his commentary on 60 minutes:
Press release - UCI rejects allegations made by Tyler Hamilton
Description: The International Cycling Union categorically rejects the allegations made by Mr Tyler Hamilton, who claims that Lance Armstrong tested positive for EPO during the 2001 Tour of Switzerland and had the results covered up after one of his representatives approached the Lausanne laboratory responsible for analysing test results from the event.
The UCI is deeply shocked by the seriousness of the allegations made on the 60 Minutes programme aired by US television network CBS, and by the extent of the media interest in the case, and wishes to state once again that it has never altered or hidden the results of a positive test.
The allegations of Mr Tyler Hamilton are completely unfounded. The UCI can only express its indignation at this latest attempt to damage the image of cycling by a cyclist who has not hesitated to abuse the trust of all followers of cycling on several occasions in the past. At no time did he see fit to inform the UCI of the events he claims to have witnessed ten years ago, and which he is now using in his attempt to harm the UCI.
The UCI can only confirm that Lance Armstrong has never been notified of a positive test result by any anti-doping laboratory.
Aside from the fact that no legal action may now be taken in respect of events that occurred in 2001, the UCI also wishes to point out that in doping cases it must abide by the rules of evidence; any statutory or scientific evaluation must necessarily be made on the basis of the rules, knowledge and detection methods available at the time.
Once again, the UCI wishes to state that no manipulation or cover-up has occurred in respect of its anti-doping procedures. The UCI will continue to defend its honour and credibility by all means available, and reserves the right to take any measures it deems necessary against Mr Hamilton or any other person.
The UCI confidently awaits the results of the inquiry being conducted by the US justice system. It hopes that the investigations may be concluded swiftly and the truth ascertained, so that the sport of cycling may be spared further unnecessary damage.
UCI Press Office
So the UCI says: “Tyler, You Lie!”
But we knew that, didn’t we.
How did he pass over 500 tests and never get caught once? This is bad for him. I hope it is not true. If Hinacpie has indeed testified against Lance, backing up Hamilton, then I afraid it might be over for Lance? I do not see how he can keep denying and keep denying, when more and more people are coming out against him?
Just curious why the Feds are so interested in this? Someone mentioned on another thread that the sponser at the time, the USPS, makes this a federal issue?
I should further note that some of the high profile busts (like Ullrich) have never actually been confirmed in tests, but rather in the paper trail and circumstantial evidence. Evidence that would NEVER fly in the US.
Also, the UCI has Armstrongs blood dating back something like 8 years. They do keep trying new tests on it, but so far have come up with nothing.
Also,the pro peleton today has a thing called the passport which is a measure of all kinds of blood/urine related things that they have to get updated all the time, all year long. So say youre a pro and your hematocrit is measured at 43% in January. You cant then spike it to 48% in July and simply say, hey, Im under the UCI legal limit, no, because you spiked 5% somehow and you cheated. They measure all that stuff, like testosterone levels and all sorts of natural hormones and chemicals and you have to stay within a narrow band in all your tests, in and out of competition, 365 days/year.
Wanna bet theyre still cheating somehow though?
Vinokourov did not infuse his father’s blood. That was just an ‘urban’ myth.
He heard about this myth and once joked “I assure you that if I had infused my Father’s blood I would have tested positive for vodka!”
I really appreciate these cycling threads. Do you suppose anyone might step up to manage a pinglist? Maybe I could do it.
''The main point is just the total disappointment of people that you used to work with and then all of a sudden you see their real faces,'' Ekimov told The Associated Press on Monday...
"...By the way - will there be a Tour de France pinglist this year?
Are there any Freepers who might be willing to manage a cycling / roadie pinglist?..."
Check this with FReeper Nutmeg who previously managed a pinglist for those interested in cycling topics...
A shot across the bow eh?
You’d have to be an idiot to go to that grand jury. It is clearly looking for the “right” answers, and if you disagree with the story, even if you aren’t lying, you’ll end up being charged with perjury based on the testimony of the others.
Because no way they’ll ever go after the confessed liars and cheaters for perjury when those guys gave them the answers they expected and wanted.
The USA is swirling around the toilet bowl and Congress has nothing better to do with their time?
Nero writ large.