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Top Jewish Americans ponder support for Obama
reuters ^ | May 21, 2011 | Eric Johnson

Posted on 05/21/2011 4:12:41 PM PDT by PROCON

(Reuters) - Some prominent Jewish Americans are rethinking their support for President Barack Obama's 2012 re-election bid after he effectively called on Israel to give back territory it has occupied since 1967 to Palestinians. The backlash after Obama's keynote speech on the Middle East has Democratic Party operatives scrambling to mollify the Jewish community as the president prepares to seek a second term in the White House.

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To: PROCON

What’s the percentage of Jews living in America who vote? 5%?


51 posted on 05/21/2011 4:54:47 PM PDT by Bed_Zeppelin
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To: Clintonfatigued

You do have a point. I thought for sure Jews would vote in David Dinkins for a second term as NYC mayor. I was wrong.


52 posted on 05/21/2011 4:56:46 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (.)
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To: PROCON

BS alert meter would be appropriate.


53 posted on 05/21/2011 4:57:35 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: EGPWS

Streisand will be writing that one to Hillary Clinton this time around.


54 posted on 05/21/2011 4:58:51 PM PDT by Chandalier
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To: Clintonfatigued
Where is the great Debbie Wassermann-DITZ? The new JEWISH head of the DNC now has to ask her pals for $$$$ Where are the FLORIDA MEDIA MAVENS asking this microphone and camera hog some questions!!!!
55 posted on 05/21/2011 5:03:24 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Clintonfatigued

“Why not this time?”

He be sorta black and we can’t be called racist. So what if his friends want to kill us./sss


56 posted on 05/21/2011 5:06:09 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...My theory is, college student body presidents become DEMS orRINO's.)
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To: Recon Dad

Yes but from what I’ve seen of polls, Hussein is EXTREMELY unpopular among Israelites ACROSS THE BOARD in their homeland.


57 posted on 05/21/2011 5:08:02 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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What nonsense! As long as Obama stays loyal to “their” issues—homosexual “rights”, hounding any mention of a Creator from public life, the unrestricted for profit killing of the innocent unborn—America's overwhelmingly secular Jews will back him. As far as these people are concerned, their decadent social agenda trumps all.
58 posted on 05/21/2011 5:08:08 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If you knew anything about Sharia law, you’d realize that if America were ruled by it... *YOU’D* be treated just like a Jew would.

Still worth it?


59 posted on 05/21/2011 5:13:11 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: mgpilot

“I have never been able to figure out why Jews are so liberal. We always talk about Judeo-Christian values- but that doesn’t seem to apply at the ballot box.”

Many liberal Jews who live in the US have roots in Europe. Their great grandparents and grandparents were communists or part of the money changing elite. My grandfather was a communist and when he came to the states, he was taken off the boat, brought to the lower east side, got a bowl of soup and a job.

And he became a Democrat. His son, my father grew up in Brooklyn and was also a staunch democrat and an orthodox Jew. My father served in Korea, came home, got a job, married my mom and here I be.

In the 80’s something clicked. My fathers taxes went down, his income went up and he swore he would never again vote democrat.

When you start in a wealthy family, all that gets bypassed. those people stayed democrat and moved even further left when the party went that way. High taxes didn’t bother them and more importantly, their desire to help those more needy then them, brought out nanny.


60 posted on 05/21/2011 5:13:36 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Logical me
My son in law, who now lives in Israel said, "What's the big deal. The US policy has not changed." You can't teach somebody who knows it all!
61 posted on 05/21/2011 5:20:30 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Wealth = Net Worth ...........Income = Net Work!)
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To: PROCON

If they have to ponder which way to go they are morally bankrupt.


62 posted on 05/21/2011 5:23:23 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Every day we now throw away things people will kill for after TEOTWAWKI)
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To: mgpilot

Karl Marx was a self-loathing Jew. It is nothing new for many Jewish people to refuse to recognize reality.....to refuse to recognize God. Many refused to admit what was happening to them in Germany.....as they were being loaded onto the trains.

Maybe it is extreme hope or a disregard for the sheer evil of mankind. Can’t figure out their lack of common sense and disregard for the facts of history and the results of certain ideologies. They of all people should know the results of socialism and Marxism. Sheer evil and ALWAYS leads to no freedom—totalitarianism and fascism.


64 posted on 05/21/2011 5:24:50 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: PROCON
I am not Jewish, so I am at a loss here...

How many times can the Jewish people get shit on, clean themselves off, and ask to have it done to them again?

I really don't get it...

66 posted on 05/21/2011 5:28:40 PM PDT by Fedupwithit ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants" -Albert Camus)
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To: PROCON

Blah, blah, blah.

Their noses may be bent out of shape today, but come November of ‘12, they’ll vote for Zippy, like their parents would have, and their parents’ parents before them.


67 posted on 05/21/2011 5:28:44 PM PDT by surely_you_jest (Obama has scars going over halfway around the back of his head. What's up with that?)
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To: PROCON

It is hard for those of us who have thinking and logical minds that question what is happening in this country to understand that for some people PARTY is the religion...it is the god...it is the savior...it must be upheld.

It seems (at least to me) that Democrats are much more reluctant to turn even Independent than are Republicans. My family would choke on a chicken bone before they ever voted anything other than Democrat. Jews have voted for Democrats since Roosevelt was President and helped in the rescue of the Jews from Hitler. They aren’t about to give up their party.

They may hate Obama but they will still vote Democrat. One of you posted that there are only about 5% Jews in the country....all I have to ask is how many of that 5% have either wealth or power or both...and, if not, how many have connections with someone who has one or both? Most of them.

The money will go to the Democratic party and the Jewish voters will just turn their heads as if ignoring they have turned their backs on their ancestry, their ancestral country and this country as well. They will not recognize that they gave money to Obama...it will be giving it to the Democratic party and that is all that counts.


68 posted on 05/21/2011 5:29:36 PM PDT by imfrmdixie (A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both. Eisenhower)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Amen, and plus he said in “his” book...when it comes to crunch time, I will come down on the side of the Muslims..” and to Stephy, “...my Muslim faith...”

Case closed two times!


69 posted on 05/21/2011 5:30:31 PM PDT by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: PROCON

The majority of the non-religious Jews would vote for osama or hitler if they had a (D) after his name.


70 posted on 05/21/2011 5:31:19 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: mgpilot

We must be careful not to stigmatize all Jews because of a bunch of American libtard Jews. Jews have been victims of pogroms, murders, genocides, discrimination, etc by so-called “christians” throughout the ages. They tend to side with democrats because of their perceived long-standing civil rights records. Many republicans (as well as democrats)have been guilty of antisemitism. They are a gifted, talented people that make up a disproportionate number of diplomats, scientists, lawyers, actors, advisers,bankers, financiers, etc. Someday they will realize that there only true friends are evangelical Christians of a dispensational persuasion. As a member of the Baptist persuasion I am commanded to “pray for the peace of Jerusalem and to remember that “I will bless them that bless you and curse them that curse you” Shalom to my Jewish friends and please stand behind Bibi as he confronts the U.S. President.


71 posted on 05/21/2011 5:33:59 PM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: Steve Van Doorn

End of thread. Case closed.


72 posted on 05/21/2011 5:34:54 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (F U B O ! ! !)
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To: PROCON

Will Jews will vote for us? Depends on the candidate. Palin - no. Paul - hell no. Romney - yes. Cain - yes, Daniels - yes, Huntsman - yes.

They are part of the great dem party - Blacks, Latinos, unions, and Jews. Loss of Jews is not great in percent, but significant in money. Love to have them. They are great people.


73 posted on 05/21/2011 5:38:20 PM PDT by uscabjd
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To: Clintonfatigued
After this and other actions, I would hope not. Jewish voters turned against George McGovern in 1972 and Jimmy Carter in 1980. Why not this time?

The numbers that turned against the Dems were not that large, I think the majority still voted Dem. Much of the Jewish community votes Dem because Republicans are Christian and Conservative (both qualities much exaggerated by the Jewish community).
Dennis Prager 10/2/08
Why are so many Jews liberal?

74 posted on 05/21/2011 5:40:58 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: imfrmdixie
You would be interested in reading further on how Roosevelt and Britain “saved” the Jews...early on many were discarded as so much chattel...hard to believe.
75 posted on 05/21/2011 5:42:10 PM PDT by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: 2nd Amendment
”Jews have been victims of pogroms, murders, genocides, discrimination, etc by so-called “christians” throughout the ages.”

Other then the crusades I can not think of any other time that Christians did anything bad to Jews.
Republicans should have kicked Pat Buchanan out of the party by court order years ago though.

76 posted on 05/21/2011 5:47:49 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: PROCON

Eaxctly: They dont need mollifying, just watch them go to the polls and vote Obama.


77 posted on 05/21/2011 5:53:29 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And what have you sown? I like how you call out Jews. Nice.


78 posted on 05/21/2011 5:55:06 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: PROCON

Pondering will get you in trouble—What should we pack in the suitcase for that train ride the Nazis have for us? Wake up! Danger, run and skip that train ride!


79 posted on 05/21/2011 5:57:03 PM PDT by RicocheT
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Thanks. I didn’t know that.


80 posted on 05/21/2011 6:00:19 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
Don't be fooled again

The Hillary voters were not voting for Obama too.

81 posted on 05/21/2011 6:06:13 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Other then the crusades I can not think of any other time that Christians did anything bad to Jews.

Much of the Jewish community came from Eastern Europe during the period 1870-1910. During this time it was well documented that many clerics with backing from local potentates (politicians) would spread blood libel and in much of Eastern Europe is was common for Easter services to be concluded by stoning the local synagogue or worse.

82 posted on 05/21/2011 6:11:14 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: PROCON

“Top Jewish Americans ponder support for Obama”

What’s to ponder? They will cough up for anti-semitic muslim when it’s all said and done. The only thing that matters is money, and what it can buy.


83 posted on 05/21/2011 6:12:17 PM PDT by chainsaw (I'd hate to be a democrat running against Sarah Palin.)
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To: EGPWS

While Barbara Streisand writes a large check to Obama’s campaign.

A fool and her money are soon parted.


84 posted on 05/21/2011 6:14:06 PM PDT by chainsaw (I'd hate to be a democrat running against Sarah Palin.)
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To: scooby321
“Top Jewish Americans ponder support for Obama” — those who believe this have assumed a fact not in evidence.

American Jews are Liberal Democrats first, last, and always BEFORE Judaism even rears its head. They will vote for the Muslim-in-Chief by 70 to 80 percent.

85 posted on 05/21/2011 6:16:20 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: PROCON; All
I think when all is said and done, the majority of American Jews, who are liberals first and jews second will vote for 0bama.

You can count on it. 78% of the American Jews voted for Obama in 2008. Liberal, Jewish radio talk show host, Mark Levine, says it might drop to 70% in 2012. The young American Jews, who are so stinking liberal don't give a rat's rear about the homeland. I just don't understand that.
86 posted on 05/21/2011 6:17:44 PM PDT by no dems (At least Trump has a pair. If the GOP has no fire in the belly in 2012, we're going down.)
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To: TheBattman

You are right, they are very far from their faith. Jew in name only (jino) They care only for themselves. Many on this site pound their heads waiting for them to wake up can’t fathom what is going on in their thinking.
Their are many more self hating Soros in the world than is known, and maybe God is just letting them stew in their self centered cess pit.
Special people ? some are, but many just jino’s


87 posted on 05/21/2011 6:17:48 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Sarah Barracuda

after hearing all of those facts they still ran to the polls to vote for Obama..they don’t think about Israel.

When they remember Hitler’s death camps it will be too late.


88 posted on 05/21/2011 6:18:38 PM PDT by chainsaw (I'd hate to be a democrat running against Sarah Palin.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Yeah, Pat has an antisemitic streak in him. as well as Joseph Kennedy, Half of Roosevelt’s cabinet, Father Coughlin, Lindbergh, Jeannette Rankin, Louis Farrakahn, Bill ayers, “pastor Wright” and who else? Let me guess? . .


89 posted on 05/21/2011 6:19:07 PM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: richardtavor; E. Pluribus Unum
The anti-Semites are trolling all the Israel threads on FR. Sheesh, these people wear their hatred for Jews so clearly on their sleeve and think it somehow has the bearing of being "conservative." Israelis did not vote for Obama, in fact they despise him - and yet we get nonsense like this on every thread.

I think we should start blaming Catholics for voting for Obama. After all, FAR more Catholics voted for him than Jews.
90 posted on 05/21/2011 6:19:50 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Clintonfatigued
Jewish voters turned against George McGovern in 1972 and Jimmy Carter in 1980. Why not this time?

First of all, I'd like to see or hear some stats on those two elections. But, Don't forget, The U.S.A. is a helluva lot more Liberal now than it was in 1972, for sure.
91 posted on 05/21/2011 6:20:12 PM PDT by no dems (At least Trump has a pair. If the GOP has no fire in the belly in 2012, we're going down.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
And watching Liberal Jews reap what the have sown is high on my list.

That is what you really meant, isn't it?
92 posted on 05/21/2011 6:22:01 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

Some of us are your biggest supporters, and we didn’t vote for Obama. Fear not, the anti-semites hate us as much as they hate you.


93 posted on 05/21/2011 6:23:41 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Yorktownpatriot

“I have friends that are messianic Jews that will not vote OR give money to Obama! They also pack heat at synagogue...even the Rabbi.”

Now thats funny


94 posted on 05/21/2011 6:25:45 PM PDT by Psycho_Runner (I never voted for change, I prefer folding money.)
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To: 2nd Amendment
We must be careful not to stigmatize all Jews because of a bunch of American libtard Jews. Jews have been victims of pogroms, murders, genocides, discrimination, etc by so-called “christians” throughout the ages. They tend to side with democrats because of their perceived long-standing civil rights records. Many republicans (as well as democrats)have been guilty of antisemitism.

Thank you! Reading some of the snarky comments on this thread, it is no wonder that Jews in the US are wary of "Republicans." Everyone should remember: Israelis did not give us Obama - even American Jews did not give us Obama - the average non-Jew gave us Obama. It just so happens that Jews in Israel despise Obama. And the Jews in Israel outnumber liberal Jews in America.
95 posted on 05/21/2011 6:28:09 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: PROCON

What the hell took him s long?


96 posted on 05/21/2011 6:28:16 PM PDT by Terrence DoGood
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To: Tzfat

Shalom. . next year in Jerusalem


97 posted on 05/21/2011 6:29:17 PM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: trisham
Some of us are your biggest supporters, and we didn’t vote for Obama. Fear not, the anti-semites hate us as much as they hate you.

Thank you. Israeli Jews, especially the religious, know that the American evangelical community is on their side.

It is sad here on FR when anything "Jewish" is mentioned, the long-knives come out. Sometimes "conservatives" are their own worse enemies.
98 posted on 05/21/2011 6:31:20 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: 2nd Amendment

B’ezrat HaShem! Soon, and in our days.


99 posted on 05/21/2011 6:32:04 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Fraxinus

That is correct and that is what thrust them in the arms of being sympathetic to Communism, and the Bolsheviks protected them from the Pogroms if my memory is correct. In many ways todays Reform Jews here in America are still carrying great great great ( how many more?) Grandma and Grandpa’s baggage with them in terms of political leanings... Compound that with all the intellectuals of Jewish decent who’s philosophies they may mave absorbed that still might be controversial (from late 1800’s and early 1900’s) and their maybe a lot to let go of.


100 posted on 05/21/2011 6:34:22 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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