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TSA To Help With 2 School Searches (NM-Ordered by federal judge)
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | May 21, 2011 | ABQ Journal Northern Bureau

Posted on 05/21/2011 8:44:38 PM PDT by CedarDave

SANTA FE — A federal judge has ordered the Santa Fe Public Schools to hire officers from the Transportation Security Administration — which provides airport security — to supervise searches of students at the Santa Fe High School prom today and at the coming Capital High School graduation. U.S. District Judge James O. Browning also directed that the searches must be "graduated," with pat-downs only if reasonable grounds are established first.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: tsa; tsapervs
Unbelievable! Nothing like teaching kids that Uncle Sam is there to protect you. Now you won't have to be upset when you have the same done to you at the airport.

Background: Private security guards hired by the school district tried TSA-type searches at the prom for Capital High School. Unfortunately, they went too far (so the students say) so their parents sued to have the searches stopped. The judge instead ordered them to be conducted by TSA.

1 posted on 05/21/2011 8:44:41 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

Yep! Bring in the professional molesters!


2 posted on 05/21/2011 8:47:06 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: CedarDave

” to supervise searches of students at the Santa Fe High School prom today and at the coming Capital High School graduation”

Good Grief


3 posted on 05/21/2011 8:47:06 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: CedarDave

Calling the ACLU ...... crickets....


4 posted on 05/21/2011 8:47:46 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: CedarDave

I would protest and refuse to show up for either one.


5 posted on 05/21/2011 8:48:26 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: CedarDave

TSA? TSA?
A Federal agency searching kids at a prom?
Something is wrong with this picture.
Something is terribly wrong.
Kinda like Federal troops writing traffic tickets.


6 posted on 05/21/2011 8:49:57 PM PDT by Tupelo
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To: CedarDave

New Mexico is a swing state, leans blue. Maybe these measures will WAKE THEM UP! Over reach everywhere.


7 posted on 05/21/2011 8:50:47 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: CedarDave

Can a judge really order this to happen? Does he have that much power? Why can’t the school hire professional security guards? Why does it have to be TSA goons?


8 posted on 05/21/2011 8:50:47 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: CedarDave

Chalk up another reason to homeschool.


9 posted on 05/21/2011 8:52:17 PM PDT by born2bfree
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To: rawhide
Why can’t the school hire professional security guards?

They did, they just weren't professional enough:

The two students — 18-year-old Candice Herrera and her 16-year-old sister — claim that a female security officer for Associated Security Industries, which is contracted by the district to provide security on campus and at school events, put her hands on their breasts and bra, and also ordered the women to spread their arms and legs while the guard conducted a search up their bare legs.

The sisters also had their purses searched and various items — body lotion, prescription medicine, and nail clippers — confiscated by district officials at the prom.

http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Local%20News/Court-rules-on-prom-pat-downs

10 posted on 05/21/2011 8:53:13 PM PDT by CedarDave (I agree with Obama's immigration comments in El Paso: We do need moats filled with alligators)
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To: CedarDave

Wow this is great! Now you don’t have to wait until after the prom to get felt up!


11 posted on 05/21/2011 8:53:21 PM PDT by merryberry (Yes we Cain)
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To: CedarDave
U.S. District Judge James O. Browning also directed that the searches must be "graduated," with pat-downs only if reasonable grounds are established first.

Grounds like the gal is good lookin' and built.

12 posted on 05/21/2011 8:53:33 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: CedarDave
Damn terrorist. Trying to sneak into high school proms disguised as 25-30 year old middle east high school students.
13 posted on 05/21/2011 8:54:59 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: CedarDave

Waiting for the first to complain about groping in ........


14 posted on 05/21/2011 8:55:35 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice)
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To: SuperLuminal
Yep! Bring in the professional molesters!

Sad, but true!

15 posted on 05/21/2011 8:57:33 PM PDT by CedarDave (I agree with Obama's immigration comments in El Paso: We do need moats filled with alligators)
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To: Prokopton

Right up your alley, comrade.


16 posted on 05/21/2011 9:00:03 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: merryberry

and let me add. It won’t be by a pimply clumsy 11th grader!! It will be by a very experienced older person!!! WOW!

I say this tongue in cheek but ISN’T this STATUTORY RAPE made legal (even at the airports). This sickens me. Read 3rd paragraph of my profile and it will explain my feelings on this.


17 posted on 05/21/2011 9:03:46 PM PDT by merryberry (Yes we Cain)
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To: CedarDave
Where is the jurisdiction?

The TSA was chartered to protect travelers, especially air travelers.

Someone needs to take them to court and say that schools are STATE matters.

This is practically a matter of Posse Comitatus -- bringing a Federal agency into day-to-day state affairs.

-PJ

18 posted on 05/21/2011 9:05:49 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: CedarDave

THIS HAS GOT TO STOP.


19 posted on 05/21/2011 9:07:31 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the other hand)
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To: CedarDave
the searches must be "graduated,"

Curious, what does it mean the search must be 'graduated'? Start at the bottom for the body search and rise higher and higher?

A 'graduated mortgage payment' means start low with your mortgage payment and the payment continues to rise each month.

20 posted on 05/21/2011 9:07:39 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: CedarDave
I'd be in front of the school board, in the supt. and principal’s offices, at the newspaper, on the evening news, and on the radio station today. And in between times would be on the phone calling every students’ parents to organize a class of ‘11 protest against the graduation ceremonies. Then tomorrow would be asking around to the churches (oh, no, school and religion!!!), or someone’s ritzy house, or someone’s country place to hold the new non-groping graduation acknowledgment celebration. And while I'm at it ask the local restaurants to help cater a picnic or snacks to show community support for the kids and against the judge, the TSA, and Big Brother government.
21 posted on 05/21/2011 9:07:42 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: CedarDave

The parents should all get together and hire a PRIVATE HALL for the prom.

Insanity


22 posted on 05/21/2011 9:09:05 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the other hand)
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To: maine-iac7

Agree! And hold it in a church gymnasium too! That will put the ACLU into a big tizzy!


23 posted on 05/21/2011 9:12:16 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: maine-iac7

Absolutely correct. The parents could also arrange their own graduation ceremony. The school could mail the diplomas to the students, and the parents could present those diplomas, in a suitably formal and inspiring manner, to the students.

Either way, I would not seriously consider, even for an instant, attending the school’s graduation or prom myself, or encouraging any child of mine to do so.


24 posted on 05/21/2011 9:13:36 PM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: Walkingfeather
Calling the ACLU ...... crickets....
Peter Simonson, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union chapter based in Albuquerque, said by phone Thursday that as schools' zero-tolerance policies on conduct have grown over the past 15 years or so, so have issues regarding violations of students' rights.

Without directly commenting on the Capital High School case, Simonson said that such situations "seem to ignore the fact that students do in fact have rights and that school officials — even while they may have some greater latitude to search and investigate for possible illicit activity — still have to pay attention to some significant legal boundaries."

Court ruling sets limits on prom pat-downs


25 posted on 05/21/2011 9:13:56 PM PDT by CedarDave (I agree with Obama's immigration comments in El Paso: We do need moats filled with alligators)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Where is the jurisdiction?

Good question. Why a federal judge??

26 posted on 05/21/2011 9:14:53 PM PDT by CedarDave (I agree with Obama's immigration comments in El Paso: We do need moats filled with alligators)
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To: rawhide
right! that would be a perfect place. Let them TRY to push the TSA in there!

If the parents pay for a hall - and it happens to be a Church hall - one would probably offer if for nothing more than help with heat/lights and cleanup - then NO ONE, not even a judge, can have any say.

If it was MY kids prom, they damn well would not be subjected to TSA - or any other pat down goons. NO ONE would lay a hand on them.

27 posted on 05/21/2011 9:17:10 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (watch the other hand)
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To: CedarDave

This is just a taste of what is to come. The time when kids will have to pass through TSA security checkpoints and random gropings while at school isn’t too far off. Welcome to the new world order.


28 posted on 05/21/2011 9:19:49 PM PDT by pallis
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To: CedarDave
When the link required membership, I thought this was fishy. Nope. Just Google it. It's all true.

It's over.

These kids should be looking for a free country to live in.

29 posted on 05/21/2011 9:20:38 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I'd rather be Plaxico Burress than Sean Taylor)
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To: CedarDave

If the parents cared at all about this absurd situation, they would arrive at the prom armed to the teeth, and kindly instruct any TSA officials to step back while the parents escorted their “children” into the prom.

This nonsense must be stopped, a ruckus MUST be raised, and not eventually, but right now. The only reason this moronic judge ordered this is because the public is simply continuing its apathy to these actions.


30 posted on 05/21/2011 9:21:46 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: CedarDave

Saturday night, a certified TSA official will be at the Santa Fe High School prom to oversee student searches.

This all comes after two Capital High School students, sisters, filed a lawsuit saying they were groped by a security agent at Capital High School’s prom last month. On Friday, the court ordered Santa Fe Public Schools and the security company ASI to provide at least one TSA certified person at the Santa Fe High School prom and the Capital High School graduation.

The restraining order also spells out the specific ways security can perform searches. It says a pat-down is only to be used if there are reasonable grounds and that pat-downs should not be used as a first approach for every student.

KOB Eyewitness News 4 talked to one of the sisters suing the district earlier this week. Candice Herrera said, “She grabbed my breast and shook the inner part of my bra and shook it and then picked up the front of my dress to mid thigh and she was patting down my bare legs.”

Capital’s Principal told us she was standing right there when students were searched and doesn’t remember any students complaining about the pat downs.

Meanwhile, Santa Fe Public Schools says it’s happy to comply with the Federal Court’s decision, saying, student safety is a priority.

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S2122102.shtml?cat=504

The problem with the security guard that the two girls complained about happened at another school.


31 posted on 05/21/2011 9:22:39 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: CedarDave

And anyone not yet convinced that we are becoming a police state, It looks like gestapo Germany in the early 30s and the courts are part of it.


32 posted on 05/21/2011 9:28:29 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: born2bfree
Chalk up another reason to homeschool.

It is not a matter of yanking your kid out to home school.

It is about the taking of control, of our lives, by the powers that be.

How big of a step is it from decreeing that students get searched at the prom (!)to decreeing that your home school gets searched?

Merely for the good of the community, you see.

33 posted on 05/21/2011 9:32:12 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Forgotten Amendments
When the link required membership, I thought this was fishy.

Sorry; forgot to mention you can read the whole article for free without registering by scrolling down the membership page and watching a one-minute commercial video.

34 posted on 05/21/2011 9:34:51 PM PDT by CedarDave (I agree with Obama's immigration comments in El Paso: We do need moats filled with alligators)
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To: merryberry

That made me laugh :-D


35 posted on 05/21/2011 9:35:15 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Tupelo
I agree with how bad this is - we refuse to fly because of TSA's behavior and lack of true security (Muslims can act crazy and sue if you interfere). Now private events (albeit at school) aren't safe from TSA. The ability to call in TSA to pat down at a prom means they could do that level of search on anyone at any time. Employment searches for illegal aliens, drunk driving checks, see something suspicious - call in TSA to pat us all down. On the street, in your house? When is it not OK to require you to get groped? Can police call in TSA to mandate strip searches after feds break down your door? SWAT teams for raw milk confiscation and "someone who might be a loner or gun collector" can now mandate a groping? Just go around the Fourth Amendment by calling in TSA.

These kids need T-shirts. "If my boy/girl friend can't touch it, neither can you."

36 posted on 05/21/2011 9:45:32 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Joe 6-pack

Was that a Lesbian sec guard?...hmmm.


37 posted on 05/21/2011 9:49:02 PM PDT by Therapsid (Communism has killed 50-60 Million people in only 50 yrs.)
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To: SuperLuminal

My thoughts too. Bring in the federally trained pervs.


38 posted on 05/21/2011 9:56:38 PM PDT by jospehm20
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39 posted on 05/21/2011 10:17:56 PM PDT by CedarDave (I agree with Obama's immigration comments in El Paso: We do need moats filled with alligators)
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To: All

These “agents” were taking away lotions just like at the airport. They are dumb robots who can only operate at one speed. “Dis dude got shave lotion. Must surrender lotion. Check did girl’s sandles. She may use something to cause the plain to crash. And dese folks all got cell phones. Ya’ll can’t use cell phones while da planes is takin’ off.”


40 posted on 05/21/2011 10:26:46 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Only a SECOND party will get my vote.)
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To: CedarDave

Sounds like a school system that needs to be disbanded if it is so dangerous that girls in prom dresses must be groped in order to attend a formal dance.

And I thought the attendees at my daughter’s Senior Night were animal-like in behavior. I don’t think they had security pat downs at their prom, but maybe I should quiz my daughter. The issues with daughter’s school is whether or not to allow non-graduates to walk at graduation. The school decided that they would allow the students who did not pass the now required AIMS tests to walk at graduation and to receive a piece of paper that says that the student(s) fulfilled all of the school’s graduation requirements. They are all crazy.


41 posted on 05/21/2011 10:45:44 PM PDT by petitfour (Are you a Dead Fish American?)
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To: CedarDave

It’s the thin air and nosebleeds mebbe???


42 posted on 05/21/2011 11:16:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: petitfour

Is teen gang activity feared? If something like this had been tried at a public event at the schools of my era, everyone would be wondering if there had been a bomb threat.


43 posted on 05/21/2011 11:18:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: rawhide

If you read through the whole story...you have a pair of sisters who complained that groping was accomplished by the private security gal at a different prom in the area. The judge took her statement at full value (perhaps with witnesses, but it’s not obvious in the reporting), and he selected the TSA folks. Curiously, he could have easily asked someone like the principal to review the entry processes with the private security folks....or even asked the local county sheriff to have a person there to monitor the situation.

What we ought to question out of this entire report....is why you need any security at a prom? The minute you suggest that....I think you’ve got a pretty big problem to start with, and I’d be thinking of a city policeman or county deputy there to monitor things.


44 posted on 05/22/2011 2:28:10 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

Another question — doesn’t TSA need permission from their Personnel Office in order to accept outside employment? How does the judge know it will be granted?


45 posted on 05/22/2011 2:35:32 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: CedarDave

It is time to make war on the government.


46 posted on 05/22/2011 6:37:27 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: CedarDave

Civil rights claim


47 posted on 05/22/2011 10:38:35 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (I asked the bartender for a bin Ladin, she said 'what's that? I said 'two shots then a splash.')
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To: pepsionice

The is very much like the Obamacare mandate to purchase insurance. Like Pure Fascism. The Judge forces the school to buy from a certain supplier connected with or part of the government.

Disgusting. Also, against the Declaration of Independence’s demand that there be no standing armies. The TSA is a “standing army”. An army standing in the midst of the nation acting to tyrannize it.


48 posted on 05/23/2011 5:54:48 AM PDT by bvw
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