Skip to comments.Zogby Poll: Cain Takes Lead over Romney
Posted on 05/23/2011 9:43:59 PM PDT by Kartographer
Herman Cain leads presumed frontrunner Mitt Romney as the top choice of Republican primary voters in the race for the 2012 Presidential nomination. Among all voters, no one in a list of 13 possible GOP candidates leads President Barack Obama.
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Maybe this'll throw some light: White House Adds New Position to Deal with Unfavorable Online Media - and we all know which party the left's useful idiots belong to.
What did you say about Cain that IS accurate? Why do all libertarians insist on joinging with the dems in using fallacious argument to make untruth seem like truth?
I like Malkin too. I also liked Alan Keyes — was very loyal to him in 2000, but he simply lacked the leadership skills, and I refused to admit it to myself at the time. Cain is an outsider, just like Malkin and Keyes. So I’m thrilled. But I’m not counting out Palin either.
Funny thing is that Boortz had a “guy crush” on Newt when the real power house was right under his nose. Talk about bad instincts!
I had predicted wa ... ay back that Newt would flop and that Cain had potential. [Buffing my VRWC decoder ring.]
Romney is kind of like today’s Forbes in some ways. Remember how Forbes spent tons of money and ended up nowhere? I remember [when I was shnookered into having satellite] how Forbes dropped a ton of balloons just before his speech in Iowa [2000 race]. The people kept popping balloons while he tried to talk. It broke his momentum, making him blink the entire time. I laughed myself silly.
“These 5 can win the nomination - Palin, Romney, Gingrich, Paul, Bachmann. [Or The others cant...Republicans dont vote for fresh faces.”
Ron Paul? Nowhere. Romney or Gingrich would need ticket splitters to squeak through. I admire Bachman, but she needs something to happen — a mistake by Cain. She needs to hope that Palin doesn’t enter. Her name is not as well known as you might think. Giuliani was soundly rejected in the past, largely because he doesn’t respect Life. He would have to squeak through with a ticket splitter even more desperately than Gingrich or Romney.
If Palin doesn’t run, the only reason Cain would lose is because of Herman Cain. This is his to lose unless she enters. It was the same as Howard Dean — his primary race was his to lose, and Dean blew it. But Cain strikes me as very self-disciplined. His main stumbling block would be the tax lobby network — like H&R Block, brilliant people who are too comfortable with exploiting the complex tax code. They will try to harm him in a big way.
The reason Cain is rising so rapidly is this:
The conservative movement is much more dynamic now as the information age grows in maturity. A primary cannot be predicted with a static mindset. For example, while some conservatives still stick to dead tree papers, they read columns from people who research online. Radio hosts are building up reputations and forging more influence. FoxNews is doing the same. The radio hosts and FoxNews — all study online intently. This makes primaries much less traditional than in the past.
A strong movement has been forged to block the Ruling Class. This movement is even larger than the Tea Party; it’s not even a formal thing, and it’s bipartizan. I don’t even know if anti-conservative crossover primary mischief is going to happen this year.
just like ?malkin? and Keyes ? No BACHMAN and Keyes.
“Yes he will. Theyll Clarence Thomas him.”
Good point; they will try. I hope he took that into account and is sure that he’s safe on that front.
“Right now, only Sarah Palin deciding to run could derail Cain as the conservative frontrunner.”
I agree. If Palin runs, Cain will have a fight on his hands. Otherwise, this is his to lose. [If he has a scandal or makes a major verbal slip, for example.] In this day and age, people can rise from obscurity if ...
1. They have a strong base that is willing to work hard.
2. They know how to lead and expand that core base.
3. They are mentally prepared and make the right moves well in advance.
Foreign policy experience is important, but the know how to bring this country out of its financial doldrums I feel is even more important.
It’s a lot easier to “negotiate” on the foreign stage as a rich country, than as a poor one.
Wealthy nations can mount a strong defense, and keep their citizens healthy and strong, with the ability to feed them and provide healthcare for them at home. Poor nations don’t really stand a chance now, do they.
ding ding ding! We have a winner :)
The sooner Americans fully understand that politics is about enriching the media and making average people think they have some measure of control, the better off we will be. Then we can get rightfully POd and do something about it.
The Tea Party concept was built upon the frustration that we typically feel when the powers that be who run the system listen not to us, but instead push us into something we don’t want such as amnesty for illegals, or the millions more H1B visas instead of educating Americans, or billions spent in foreign aid while they figure how to cut enforcement of Medicare fraud against their cronies, or wars in Libya, or the perpetual war on terror, or the UAE managing our ports, or average Americans paying more taxes than GE.
Make no mistake the Party elite will be determining the candidates not average Americans. You will get to choose but only what they decide.
I remember the same was said for $4-per-gallon gas a few months ago. The sheeple are more easily conditioned to accept the formerly unacceptable, so long as those in power have an effective propaganda arm to guide their thinking.
Including Paul in ‘can win’ and excluding Cain is denial at best and complete lunacy at worst.
Unless all nations agree to do so simultaneously, the dissolving of a central bank amounts to the economic equivalent of unilateral disarmament.
"End the Fed" is an ignorant slogan, not a solution.
Yes, they will. Yes, Herman is ready. And besides ....
CLARENCE THOMAS WON! (check out biden's shame)
The last Gallup poll I checked, Ron Paul was known by 76% of Republicans, and Cain was known by 29% of Republicans.
The difference between 76% and 29% is the difference between can win and can’t win.
Cain is certainly a fresh face, and the Democrats do elect fresh faces. But the Republicans never elect fresh faces.
My argument is only that Cain isn’t well known enough to win.
And that Republicans only pick well known candidates.
If you want to mention all the unknown Republicans that get the Republican Nomination in the last 50 years, go ahead.
I’m saying Cain isn’t famous enough, that’s all.
The 5 I mentioned all have high name recognition. Bachmann has the lowest of the 5. Cain has name recognition half of Bachmann. He falls short, just not famous enough for 2012.
All you have to do to make your case is find a quote of mine, and tell me where I’m wrong.
Herman Cain has excellent elite credentials. It’s a fact.
He was Chair of the KC Fed. Another fact.
I don’t know what libertarians do.
I’m a Limited Constitutional Government Conservative who wants a much smaller Federal Government.