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To: Recovering_Democrat

you are looking at this through our eyes not the average voter.
Both elections were lost because of the Ryan plan and the left used their usual scare tactics, Ryan helped them.

SO how many elections do you want to lose until you see we have to change this debate and say medicare will be killed by obamacare etc.

You tell the average voter they can get SS at 72 then you will not get their vote.

As for Pawlenty saying he does not now endorse cap and trade, well he would wouldn’t he.
He knows saying cap and trade should be passed now will not get him the election, it is called playing to the base but hey if you trust him then off you go I for one will wait till someone else who is more of a better conservative and has stuck with their views not flipped flopped comes along


65 posted on 05/25/2011 1:58:28 PM PDT by manc (Hannity is a fraud , he admitted he's socially liberal on his show, he's took us for suckers)
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To: manc

Do a study of Reagan’s tenure as California governor sometime and the “liberal” bills he signed, and see if you would still have supported him for President. The FACT IS, none of the people are perfect, but all of them are better than Hussein.

Waiting for a Prince or Princess Charming is a foolish game.


81 posted on 05/25/2011 2:31:25 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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