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Dems rejoice over NY; will Medicare redo 2012?
AP/WorldMag ^ | May 25, 11:44 PM EDT | DAVID ESPO

Posted on 05/25/2011 9:03:04 PM PDT by quantim

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Jubilant Democrats demanded Republicans abandon their sweeping plans to remake Medicare on Wednesday after casting a House race in upstate New York as a referendum on the popular program and emerging victorious.

"The top three reasons for the election of a Democrat in one of the most conservative Republican districts in America are Medicare, Medicare and Medicare," declared New York Rep. Steve Israel, chairman of the party's congressional campaign committee.

House Republicans made little if any attempt to demonstrate widespread support for their controversial proposal during the day. And the National Republican Congressional Committee offered no explanation for having let hundreds of thousands of dollars in Democratic-funded attacks on the proposed Medicare overhaul go unchallenged in its own television advertising.

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1 posted on 05/25/2011 9:03:07 PM PDT by quantim
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To: quantim
And the National Republican Congressional Committee offered no explanation for having let hundreds of thousands of dollars in Democratic-funded attacks on the proposed Medicare overhaul go unchallenged in its own television advertising.

First I saw this mentioned today. If true, this is unfathomable. It would almost seem like this race was a throw away for the party if they didn't even bother to defend the charges. Fine if true, but then this needs to be mentioned far and wide so it is clear that this special election has no bearing on the rest of the nation or the 2012 budget.

2 posted on 05/25/2011 9:08:20 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: quantim; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Reagan Man; AuH2ORepublican
>> "The top three reasons for the election of a Democrat in one of the most conservative Republican districts in America are Medicare, Medicare and Medicare," declared New York Rep. Steve Israel, chairman of the party's congressional campaign committee. <<

The top three reasons for the election of a Democrat in one of the most conservative Republican districts in America are Conservative Vote Splitting, Conservative Vote Splitting, and Conservative Vote Splitting, Congressman. In case you can't read the election results, the majority of people in the 26th district voted AGAINST your Obama-loving Democrat. But gloat all you want and pretend you have a mandate, you'll find out next November that Kathy Hochul and her views on "medicare" are about as popular in NY-26 as Charles Djon was in Hawaii-1 after the Dems stopped splitting their votes there.

3 posted on 05/25/2011 9:16:58 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: quantim
The ONLY reason the Democrat won was because they had a Democrat running as a fake Tea Party candidate.

The Tea Party isn't a party. It's the pendulum starting to swing the other way.

4 posted on 05/25/2011 9:18:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: quantim
Does Obama drone Davey Espo have a single shred of evidence that Medicare had anything to doe with this election ?

Good olde Davey is just spitting out the latest talking points fax from the DNC!

The GOP stayed home for many reason including Bonehead showing that he is not interested in stopping Obamacare or the Spending and killed the GOP base morale and interest in voting for Bonehead spineless moves( 100 k did not vote this round ).
The stupid scandal does not help voter turnout for a GOP right after the guy resigned.

Frankly ,why did the clown resign over a Craig list photo ???
Barney Franks was caught running a male hustler ring and fixing parking tickets !
Then we have a third party Dem scam artist.

5 posted on 05/25/2011 9:23:22 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: BillyBoy

Not very conservative if they voted for a rat!


6 posted on 05/25/2011 9:23:58 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative (There are still some rinos left for 2012. Let's get them and the fake tea partiers!)
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To: ABQHispConservative

They voted for a RAT believing he was the “Tea Party” candidate because that’s what it said on the ballot. The vast majority of conservatives are not uneducated fools, but unfortunately about 9,495 (9% of voters) in NY’s 26 are.


7 posted on 05/25/2011 9:49:45 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy
No, the fake Tea Party candidate didn't swing it. The GOP completely allowed Hochul to lie about her opposition to Medicare cuts in Obamacare and set the narrative back to the evil Republicans are going to gut Medicare again, and too many sheeple fell for it. Nevermind that Obamacare completely guts Medicare.

Now the Dems have that narrative going into 2012 and will force Republicans to "compromise" on Medicare and kick the can down the road.

Oh well, I say let the program go belly-up and people can riot in the streets.

8 posted on 05/25/2011 10:16:53 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Yes, the fake tea party candidate DID swing it, and the numbers verify that:

Kathy Hochul (RAT) = 48,530 votes
Jane Corwin (GOP) 43,836 votes + Jack Davis "Tea Party" 9,495 votes = 53,331 votes

Candidates who proclaimed to be "consevative" got 5000 votes MORE than the liberal RAT. That's about on par for this district. Contrary to what the Dems claim, NY-26 is not overwhemlingly conservative and one of the safest GOP districts in the nation. It is drawn to give conservatives a modest majority, and voted that way in this election. It's not like the fake tea party candidate admitted he was really a liberal and told everyone a vote for him was a vote to "save medicare". He ran on a conservative platform and duped a bunch of conservatives into voting for him. I seriously doubt anyone scared that the evil GOP was going to cut Medicare voted for the "Tea Party". If anything, most of the "Tea Party" voters selected that choice because they wanted someone even MORE conservative on cutting government benefits.

Botton line: NY-26 -- 53,331 conservatives votes vs. 48,530 liberal votes cast. Unfortunately for us, 9,000 of those conservative voters were duped into supporting the wrong person.

9 posted on 05/25/2011 10:41:02 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: quantim

Matters not a whit to me, it is after all New York, AKA land of the clueless and entitlement central.


10 posted on 05/25/2011 10:56:38 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Being an autodidact, I happily escaped the bureaucratization of intellect)
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To: ilgipper
If true, this is unfathomable

Then you really don't understand the GOP, do you?

11 posted on 05/26/2011 1:18:01 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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To: quantim

http://www.breitbart.tv/rep-ryan-gives-the-facts-about-medicare-and-gop-budget-plan/


12 posted on 05/26/2011 4:06:26 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: quantim

If they’re rejoicing — I hope their goal is for Zero to win 47% of the vote (or even less) in 2012.


13 posted on 05/26/2011 4:27:06 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Tea Votes > Margin Between R and D

Mediscare made it closer but they still only won because of fake Tea partier Jack Davis.


14 posted on 05/26/2011 3:39:19 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: quantim; Extremely Extreme Extremist; justiceseeker93; AuH2ORepublican; Reagan Man
Meanwhile, in Chuckie's Schumer's old NYC district, which hasn't elected a Republican since the 1920s...

Brooklyn 112/170 10,212 69% Bob Turner (GOP) - winner

Hey DemonRats!

Where's your "mandate" on "Medicare, medicare, medicare" NOW? It seems the results aren't quite the same without FAKE tea party candidates. Awww, too bad!

Sooooo... enlighten us, why'd you get such a HUGE SLAPDOWN from a "safe" NYC district, Steve Israel?

See you in 2012!

(Sorry, couldn't help but gloat. These douchebags who tried to claim a "mandate" from their fluke win back in May with 44% of the vote deserved it)

;-)

15 posted on 09/13/2011 9:55:49 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: quantim; Extremely Extreme Extremist; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; campaignPete R-CT; Clintonfatigued; ...
Meanwhile, in Chuckie's Schumer's old NYC district, which hasn't elected a Republican since the 1920s...

Brooklyn - 112/170 10,212 69% Bob Turner (GOP) - winner

Hey DemonRats!

Where's your "mandate" on "Medicare, medicare, medicare" NOW? It seems the results aren't quite the same without FAKE tea party candidates. Awww, too bad!

Sooooo... enlighten us, why'd you get such a HUGE SLAPDOWN from a "safe" NYC district, Steve Israel?

See you in 2012!

(Sorry, couldn't help but gloat. These douchebags who tried to claim a "mandate" from their fluke win back in May with 44% of the vote deserved it)

;-)

16 posted on 09/13/2011 9:59:02 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy; sickoflibs; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; randita; ...

Are those same people are saying now that special elections are always isolated and a bellwether of nothing. ;-D

I hate spin, even when our side does it. I like the truth.

But most people are politically stupid so spinning is the sensible thing to do.


17 posted on 09/13/2011 10:07:53 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

First “Are” should be “And”.


18 posted on 09/13/2011 10:09:27 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy
Voters are not happy with either party but Democrats have a disadvantage with Obama in the WH as Republicans did in 2006+2008.

Between Weiner and the economy you can see how Dems lost today's special election.

19 posted on 09/13/2011 10:21:07 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: Impy

The special election to replace Anthony Weiner was a clear rebuke to Obama, and his policies in Israel are only part of it.


20 posted on 09/13/2011 10:23:27 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: Impy; sickoflibs; Clintonfatigued
One big difference between our upset this time around and their upset in May was the Dems only won by plurality. As I pointed out earlier on this thread at the time, a clear majority of NY-26 voters cast their ballots for a conservative candidate and didn't drink the RATs "Save medicare" kool-aid. They tried to claim the election results were a slap at John Boenher, even though only 44% of the voters supported the RAT candidate.

This time around, we won a clear majority -- 54% of NY-9 voters supported a pro-life, pro-traditional marriage conservative Catholic Republican for Chuckie Schumer's old seat. That's actually much better than I expected, if you asked me to predict a scenario where Turner wins a couple days ago, I would have predicted 48.5%-Turner, 47.5%-Weprin, 4%-Hoeppel. It's not spin to point out that a far stronger message than the 44% who voted Dem in a slight GOP district. It's safe to assume that nearly all the people who vote for the "tea party" candidate wanted a conservative. Without the fake tea party candidate, the Republican would have won handily in NY-26, with only 1% less than incumbent Chris Lee got in 2010.

Of course, Republicans would be relying on pure spin if they claimed Congressman Weiner's weiner played no part in a GOP upset in NY-9. But by the same token, Congressman Lee's lecherious behavior was certainly a favor in the RATs winning NY-26. I think the sudden exit of Lee and the fake "tea partier" conning 9% of voters played a much bigger factor than "medicare, medicare, medicare". NY-9 has tons of seniors too. What happened to the "medicare" advantage the RATs had in NY 4 monthes ago?

21 posted on 09/13/2011 10:40:39 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: quantim
The media simply lies outright.

They LOST.

It was NOT A CONSERVATIVE DISTRICT.

Geez guys, how much worse can you get?

22 posted on 09/13/2011 10:50:31 PM PDT by Lazamataz (If Hitler had been as lazy as Obama, the 1940's would have been a very nice decade!!)
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To: Impy; Clintonfatigued; Coop

I hate the spin as well-no matter where it comes from. Spin is just a fancy word for lies.

The worst is from Blabbermouth-Schultz. She was critical of the Hasidim, basically saying (in veiled words, of course) that they were neanderthals and that voters (she means Jews) in HER district wouldn’t vote the same way. I guess basically she’s saying that her Jewish voters don’t give a whit about Israel or about politicians flashing their packages all over the net - and she’s probably absolutely right. Twit.

But it heartens me that in NY voters have shown that they are sick of sleazeballs and are going to punish the party that houses them. About time.


23 posted on 09/14/2011 5:26:52 AM PDT by randita (Obama - chains you can bereave in.)
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To: BillyBoy
That's true. It's worth noting that Weners’s behavior was far more egregious than Lee's was. Sending a shirtless pic doesn't compare to sending a pantsless pic.
24 posted on 09/14/2011 7:53:45 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: BillyBoy; randita; sickoflibs; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; justiceseeker93
Hochul actually got 47% (still not a "mandate"), Corwin 42%, and Davis 9% in the final tabulation of votes in NY 26th.

That's too high for Hochul, almost 7 points better than the rat got against Lee in the 2008 election. But actually it's less that what "tea party" Jack Davis got as the democrat nominee in 2006 against Tom. Reynolds. That race was 52-48. So Hochul's "mandate" isn't eve the rat highwater mark in that district. While Turner's 53/54% in NY 9 is obviously the best we've done in NY-9.

There were a lot of factors in that race too just like this one. Effective mediscaring by the rats was one of them that aided Hochul along with obviously crappy GOP organization in NY but still Corwin (not terrible but not a stellar candidate and) wins if it's not for Jerk Davis.

25 posted on 09/14/2011 10:55:47 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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GOP's Bob Turner, Democrat David Weprin Spar Over Medicare : "My opponent thinks the solution is to cut, cut, cut," said Weprin, a state Assemblyman

Hmmm. Seems the "winning" stragedy in NY-9 of screaming "medicare, medicare, medicare" doesn't work without a fake tea party candidate on the ballot. Aww, too bad Dems. Guess you'll need a new scare tactic for 2012! ;-)

>> Weprin unveiled hawkish Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.), the Democrats’ 2000 vice presidential nominee, as his most high-profile Jewish endorsement yet at a midday cash bash. <<

Have the freepers who supported this socialist douchebag ever expressed regret? Or do they just want to sweep it under the rug and hope everyone forgets that it was their "conservative" support for LIEberman that helped Harry Reid take the Senate?

26 posted on 09/15/2011 9:39:46 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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