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End Near for Zimbabwe's Last White Farmers
VOA ^ | May 30, 2011 | Peta Thornycroft

Posted on 06/02/2011 7:47:24 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Zimbabwean farmers attend a meeting of white commercial farmers in capital Harare

Zimbabwe's Supreme Court heard a case on behalf of three farmers who claimed the constitution excluded confiscation of their land because they bought their properties after the colonial era ended with independence in 1980.

The Supreme Court did not agree and quickly dismissed their application.

One of the farmers, Colin Cloete, a former president of the Commercial Farmers’ Union at the height of often violent land invasions seven years ago, was one of the applicants.

He, like many of his colleagues, has been arrested, harassed and appeared in court many times, to try to stay on his farm.

Like most surviving white farmers, the cost of going to court to try to fight his eviction has been unaffordable.

Looking back over the long and difficult years, Cloete, now 58, said his struggle to remain on his farm did not make economic sense.

“Economically we should have moved off then, at the beginning, as we would have been 10 years younger and that much more energetic,” said Cloete.

Cloete said he had begun looking looking for a house in Harare, not least so he could move his possessions to safety.

He said the land invasions launched after Mr. Mugabe lost a referendum in 2000 had hurt him and Zimbabwe’s economy, and no one had benefited from this except the elite in the ZANU-PF Party.

“We are treated like second-class citizens, we are treated like we are still just visitors to this place. My father was born in this country, before Mr. Mugabe, but I am still a visitor,” said Cloete.

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KEYWORDS: genocide; rhodesia; zimbabwe; zimbabwefarmers; zimbabwewhitefarmers; zimbabwewhites
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To: Kozak
She is more African than Sharpton or Jackson.

Any follow up? Did she get better grades than BH0?

151 posted on 06/05/2011 9:30:35 AM PDT by reg45
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To: Stolly
Smith’s actions radicalized politics in that country and contributed to the rise of Zanu-PF.

Oversimplification.
After UDI politics did indeed become more radicalised, leading to the "bush war", actively encouraged by leftists in the west not to forget the USSR. The elections were like recent EU votes, keep voting until the "correct" result (Mugabe) then go home.
Zanu-PF was created after independence as a settlement to halt the near civil war post-1980 with Mugabe's Zanu (Shona) massacring anyone (Ndebele) supporting Nkomo's Zapu.

152 posted on 06/05/2011 8:09:26 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: kearnyirish2

well, it wasn’t “overwhelming” — I was surprised but the culture across Macau-Goa-Daman-Mozambique-Portugal-Brazil is or was more or less uniformly Portuguese. So they didn’t keep “racial purity”, but culturally they won.


153 posted on 06/06/2011 2:20:55 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: Justa; Lancey Howard; kearnyirish2

Well, don’t forget that Zambia and Zimbabwe were Rhodesia, namely after the opportunist Rhodes who carved out his personal empire there in the 1800s. It was time to change the name. But the collapse did not happen due to the name change but due to populist, in fact communistic policies


154 posted on 06/06/2011 2:23:10 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: Clive

I hope they do well in Mozambique and Zambia — they can transform these countries. Also, these white farmers are “African” — many would never feel at home in Europe or America.


155 posted on 06/06/2011 2:24:55 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: agere_contra

Can you give more details please?


156 posted on 06/06/2011 2:28:37 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: cherokee1; Lancey Howard
It’s guaranteed tho, every time a country reverts to it’s older name for no real reason except maybe new-age nationalism of some sort then the economy reverts to the slit trench. Just go down the list: Burma, Ceylon, Ivory Coast

That's not strictly true in all cases (and definitely not in the 3 you put together)

in the case of Burma to Myanmar, this happened in 1989, long after the military coup in 1962.

Ceylon changed to Sri Lanka at the time it became a republic (from 1955 - 60 it was a protectorate and then I think a dominion like Canada -- need to check that)

The reason for the change is the term Ceylon is derived from Sinhala -- the majority folks there. By changing to Sri Lanka, this was to be more inclusive of Tamils I'd guess. However, the Tamils were already at a disadvantage from 1956 when the Sri Lankans made only one language -- Sinhalese. Sinhalese is an Indo-european language and Tamil is a dravidian language -- the scripts are different and both are definitely anything BUT mutually intelligible. So the problem started before the name change

The Ivory Coast is and has been majority French speaking so their official name always was Côte d'Ivoire. I think they asked for the name in English to be Côte d'Ivoire not the English translation in the 80s. Their problems started over a decade later. In short -- they never had an official name change.

157 posted on 06/06/2011 2:44:33 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: Betis70

The indians actually were the African “Jews” — providing the lifeblood of trading and commerce in much of the continent


158 posted on 06/06/2011 3:01:32 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: tiger63
Africa is the only area of the world without a written language.

Not true. Northern Africa was always tied to europe and among the first written languages (Egyptian) is from there

Also, to the south of Egypt, the first Christian country, Ethiopia had a written language for centuries, Amharic written in Ge'ez dating back to the 9th century BC.

south and West of that -- yes, no written language

159 posted on 06/06/2011 3:04:45 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: reg45
Did she get better grades than BH0?

I doubt that would be very difficult.....

160 posted on 06/06/2011 4:04:42 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: MinorityRepublican

0bama wants to emulate Mugabe, but he is as innumerate as he is intemperate..


161 posted on 06/06/2011 6:16:22 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Cronos

If we call Burma “Myanmar” and Ivory Coast “Côte d’Ivoire”, why don’t we call Germany “Deutschland”?


162 posted on 06/06/2011 6:21:05 PM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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To: Cronos

I think the cultural stamp of the Portuguese was why East Timor has been granted independence/recognition (from Indonesia); while the Portuguese lost the colony, the people (mostly Catholic) could never fit in the larger nation. They had nothing in common with Indonesians at that point.


163 posted on 06/06/2011 8:14:07 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: terycarl
0bama wants to be the American Mugabe

he is...and the worst part is that he has nuclear weapons....now that is frightening


Hopefully someone will step up to the plate and stop him if need be. See my tagline.
164 posted on 06/06/2011 8:50:34 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: kearnyirish2
Besides the legalized discrimination against “white” & Asian men (in jobs, promotions, education), there are the constant anti-family, anti-Christianity messages of the government & its media (FWIW, this pre-dates Barack Obama). I constantly receive advertisements from banks and other businesses (and my alma mater) looking for my money, but they aren’t willing to show a face that looks like mine on their literature. They’ve created a fantasy world where everything is run by wise women and black men, the wishful thinking of their non-existent utopia (that certainly isn’t the reality of any workplace I’ve been in); we’re just spectators. I understand what they’re trying to accomplish; I don’t think they understand what they did accomplish. To think they’ll motivate me about an “enemy” halfway around the world, when my enemies are here, is silliness; if “my enemy’s enemy is my friend”, then who should I be rooting for?

I have a quick story. When I was 10 in 1976, my parents divorced and Mom had to get a better job to take care of me. She had an interview with the Port Authority that handled the busses here in Pittsburgh. She passed all their tests in flying colors but the interviewer told her that she could not hire her, the position was to be held open for a "colored person." Mom came home and was furious. She is still furious about it today and when the affirmative action president Obama got elected, I saw the anger and rage well up in her eyes. Since it was to benefit me too, I have the same anger and rage myself. Seeing crap like this in Zimbabwe and what is going on here keeps old wounds open.
165 posted on 06/06/2011 9:01:27 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Little Ray
The need to get whatever money they might have out of the country, destroy the farm equipment and infrastructure, and RUN!

Yeah, pack what you can carry, fire up the Oldsmobile, arm yourself with at least a revolver or shotgun if not more and get out. I also believe in the scorched Earth policy and if they could, plant booby traps on the property and in the house.
166 posted on 06/06/2011 9:05:03 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Unfortunately a growing number of people have similar stories; in fact now women are also the “beneficiaries” of these programs. I always remind my sons that most things they see around them were invented and/or manufactured by men; because of the diversity in my neighborhood, many of their friends are Hispanic, Middle Eastern, or from the Asian subcontinent, so the whole “patriarchal” thing is always reinforced outside of the home as well. My Hispanic wife in fact encourages it.


167 posted on 06/06/2011 9:07:49 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Cronos
in the case of Burma to Myanmar, this happened in 1989, long after the military coup in 1962.

I had a Burmese cat, her name was Muffin, I inherited her from my aunt and she lived with us until she passed on in 2004, a month's shy of 17. I'm glad they did not change the name in that case, Myanmar cat just doesn't have the same ring. B-)
168 posted on 06/06/2011 9:14:35 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: kearnyirish2

I have a bowl made in East Timor, it is stamped on there, it must have been made in the 1930’s or earlier, it was my grandmother’s. There are depictions of Asian and Oriental people on it.


169 posted on 06/06/2011 9:17:43 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: reg45
If they, the white farmers, came to the United States, would they be classified as African-American?

Only on Hawaiian birth certificates.

170 posted on 06/07/2011 5:56:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: kearnyirish2
I felt terrible about the individuals lost on 9/11,...

On average we 'lose' MORE than that EVERY DAY from CHOICE.

171 posted on 06/07/2011 5:58:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Africa Wins Again.


172 posted on 06/07/2011 2:52:36 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Nowhere Man

Most of them are Asian/Oriental, but they are Christian & speak Portuguese. Look at the names of their leaders in the news; the roster could be in Lisbon.


173 posted on 06/07/2011 3:50:45 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Elsie

You’re right; in another century, when all of the “Euro-Americans” have disappeared from this continent, the New Americans will wonder how so many people silently watched America’s Holocaust...


174 posted on 06/07/2011 3:53:22 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Jim Noble
Basically because the Germans, Chinese, Hungarians (Deutschland, Zhonggua, Magyarstan) haven't asked the world to do so. Myanmar's case is different -- I personally prefer calling it Burma and yes it is a name change

However, Cote d'Ivoire technically was always Cote d'Ivoire in English (officially!) hence it seems to me to be preferable.

Of course, whatever you personally want to call it unofficially is your (and my) choice -- I call them Burma and Ivory Coast too at home.

And do remember my point was that it is not historically true that after "reversion to its older name the country reverts to the slit trench"

175 posted on 06/07/2011 11:34:24 PM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: kearnyirish2
I think the cultural stamp of the Portuguese was why East Timor has been granted independence/recognition (from Indonesia); while the Portuguese lost the colony, the people (mostly Catholic) could never fit in the larger nation. They had nothing in common with Indonesians at that point.

Yes, the cultural stamp in the case of East Timor. The difference between Indonesia and India is that Indonesia is dominated by the Moslems while India is dominated by Hinduism which is more a meta-religion than a religion. Hence Catholic Goans could feel more at home in India than Catholic Timorese in Indonesia

The Portuguese mostly had the right idea when it came to colonies -- these were places that were first and foremost to spread the religion, secondly to become Portuguese and thirdly for commerce.

For the English, Dutch, Belgians etc. commerce was #1 and that's why the Dutch legacy in Indonesia is pretty minimal to nonexistent.

I was reading on the circumstances in which Brazil became "independent" from Portugal and they are strange -- neither side wanted it and Brazil was technically not even a colony but one integral part of the Portuguese kingdom (or a sister kingdom - can't remember exactly).

The British cultural influence was also good -- they establised infrastructure and their language. The French, not so good, they established infrastructure and their language but never really let go, hence Vietnam, Algeria, West AFrica etc....

The Dutch and Belgians were the worst -- blind, naked capitalism which gives capitalism a bad name -- robber barons in the case of the Belgians in the Congo (why do I suddenly hear a Billy Joel song in my head? ♩ ♪ ♫ ♬

176 posted on 06/08/2011 12:46:26 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: Jim Noble

Talking of Germany — I wonder if there is any other country that has so many different names in different languages? Germany in English, Deutschland in German, Niemcy in Polish, Allemagne in French, Saksma in Finnish, Volkiejte in Lithuanian and Ashkenaz in Yiddish (I think — not sure about the latter).


177 posted on 06/08/2011 12:50:14 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: Nowhere Man
Yeah, pack what you can carry, fire up the Oldsmobile, arm yourself with at least a revolver or shotgun if not more and get out. I also believe in the scorched Earth policy and if they could, plant booby traps on the property and in the house.

The problem is that many are still tied to this land. They are Africans, white but African.

178 posted on 06/08/2011 12:51:17 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: kearnyirish2; Nowhere Man

Technically most Timorese are of the same “race” as the peoples of the Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia and Polynesia — I forget the term. Quite a few are almost pure-blood Portuguese (like their ex-President or foreign minister or something) and most, I’m guessing, have a lot of Portuguese blood — the Portuguese mingled!


179 posted on 06/08/2011 12:53:16 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: Cronos

Brazil was a strange situation because a Portuguese prince became their first king (though the monarchy didn’t last very long). Britain probably best prepared their colonies for eventual independence, while France probably had the most intermarriage with their colonial people (going back to the Canadian natives). You’re also right that Holland & Belgium were probably the most unloved colonizers. Spain’s influence seems to have been the strongest on its colonies in terms of an indelible imprint on the people; that may be because so many Spaniards themselves became the governments of the independent colonies, and to this day form the upper/ruling class in most of them.


180 posted on 06/08/2011 4:34:07 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Cronos

They were also in some faraway places long before other European powers set up shop in the area.


181 posted on 06/08/2011 4:35:17 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
" Britain probably best prepared their colonies for eventual independence," --> true, I wonder how much was deliberate and how much was just to have a native bureaucracy

"France probably had the most intermarriage with their colonial people" -- I always thought the French were aloof (Vietnam, Algeria, West AFrica) compared to the Spanish.

182 posted on 06/08/2011 5:41:37 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: kearnyirish2
true, the Spanish and the Portuguese were the first -- motivated by the need to outflank the hated Turks. They were there from 1492 in the Americas and 1495 in India (Vasco Da Gama reached the real target that Columbus missed!)

The French and English and Dutch only came along in the 1600s and the English and French only really made headway in the early 1700s.

183 posted on 06/08/2011 5:43:57 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: Cronos

Britain’s system was actually ingenious, and probably the reason why their empire outlasted so many others (and kept close ties even after independence). They would take a dominant group (Zulus, for instance), and basically use them to control the situation on the ground in return for a higher standard of living. The legacy of this policy in South Africa is the antagonism between the ANC and the Zulus, who have their own hierarchy; the Zulus have lost some of the status they enjoyed in the colony. When independence eventually came (usually without the violence of Angola or Algeria), many saw benefits to keeping close ties with Britain.

The French intermarried a lot in Canada and Vietnam; I haven’t heard much about it in West Africa or the Caribbean, so probably not much. The Spanish themselves had a lot of intermarriage early on, but to this day much of the upper classes in Hispanic countries is pure Spanish blood. As these countries revert to “native” rule (Cuba, Venezuela), some of those people take the opportunity to return to Spain.


184 posted on 06/08/2011 3:11:24 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Cronos

The Turks would do business after Constantinople fell, but for a price; Europe was simply looking for way to bypass them, as you mention. It wasn’t until 1492 that the last Muslim bastion in Spain fell.

When you look at how Spain holds on in Morocco (cities along the coast, like Ceuta), I’m surprised that the whites in South Africa didn’t attempt something similar: stake a claim on land (preferably along the coast for security purposes), and live in a 100% white country rather than attempt to govern as 10% in a black country. Even the part of Morocco that Spain left (”Western Sahara”) is resisting Moroccan claims - they insist that Morocco flooded them with settlers to skew any balloting.


185 posted on 06/08/2011 3:17:16 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
Britain’s system was actually ingenious, and probably the reason why their empire outlasted so many others (and kept close ties even after independence).

true! The Commonwealth is basically "the club of those who were once ruled by the English PLUS Mozambique" :)

186 posted on 06/09/2011 1:58:16 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: kearnyirish2
and thank you for the bit about the French in Canada and Vietnam -- I did not know this.

You are so right about the British "divide and rule" policy. They used a lot of proxies which is how a small island once ruled 1/4th of the world.

187 posted on 06/09/2011 1:59:28 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: Jim Noble

Though many languages of course translate country names differently — like when I lived in Bruxelles I said I was from Les États-Unis, now I say I’m from Stany Zjedoczone! If you can get your tongue twisted around the latter at the first go, I salute you :-) I wasn’t able to!


188 posted on 06/10/2011 12:10:35 AM PDT by Cronos (Palin, Cain, Jindal)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Impy; GOPsterinMA

This reminds me of a SNL skit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGBw8jS3sMw


189 posted on 07/14/2011 4:32:26 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; Dengar01; AuH2ORepublican; Perdogg

You mean he didn’t get them all yet? I’m surprised.

How sporting of them to have show eviction trials instead of just machine gunning the farmers.

In fact I’m surprised all the remaining Whites in the country haven’t all been put in concentration camps or at least forced to have the N-word tattooed on their foreheads so they know their place.


190 posted on 07/15/2011 5:21:30 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; Dengar01; AuH2ORepublican; Perdogg

Bu,t I thought only “da white man” were racist? WTH?

Soetoro would love to turn the USA into Zimbabwe.


191 posted on 07/15/2011 5:57:01 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Some Obama-style redistribution!


192 posted on 08/18/2011 2:37:16 AM PDT by XHogPilot
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To: kearnyirish2
. A hard lesson to learn after investing your whole life in a place, but it is Africa...

Africa wins again.

193 posted on 10/20/2011 12:27:54 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: kearnyirish2
black South Africans are beating the immigrant horde back.


194 posted on 05/05/2013 4:12:35 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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