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WI - (Dane County) Judge grants extension on Democratic recalls; no delay for Republicans
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | 6/3/11 | Patrick Marley

Posted on 06/03/2011 3:16:52 PM PDT by Jean S

Madison - A Dane County judge granted state election officials a week to determine whether three Democratic senators should be recalled, but declined to delay recall elections for six Republican senators.

The judge's order means the state Government Accountability Board will have to formally certify the recall elections for July 12 for the six Republicans later Friday. Any recall elections for three Democratic senators would be held a week later, on July 19.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: recall; wisconsinshowdown
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This is outrageous!
1 posted on 06/03/2011 3:16:57 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Brown Deer; afraidfortherepublic; smoothsailing

Ping!


2 posted on 06/03/2011 3:18:36 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jean S

The system is so corrupt it’s beyond redemption.


3 posted on 06/03/2011 3:19:24 PM PDT by Spok
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To: Jean S

“Rules for thee but not for me.”


4 posted on 06/03/2011 3:20:54 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: Jean S

If this wasn’t such a good thread, I’d tell you to stay off of it.


5 posted on 06/03/2011 3:26:18 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

It doesn’t matter this country economics favor the GOP bigtime right now.


6 posted on 06/03/2011 3:34:13 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: Jean S

Don’t know if they are elected, but they should be adding that judge to the recall list.


7 posted on 06/03/2011 3:47:15 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Jean S
Last month, Dane County Circuit Judge John W. Markson extended the deadline until Friday for the board to determine whether the nine recall elections should be held.

Is this the same judge who made th edecision today? The story really doesn't identify him. This is just a pile of bovine excrement. Who is this judge. Who appointed him?

8 posted on 06/03/2011 3:49:22 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Jean S
The board consists of six retired judges and was specifically designed to be nonpartisan.

What in the world is that supposed to mean?

9 posted on 06/03/2011 3:54:14 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Hunton Peck

That means that it is made up entirely of activist Democrats and brain dead, senile Republicans. s/off


10 posted on 06/03/2011 3:56:16 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: All; Jean S
It's very plausible Dems can flip up two, maybe three, seats in the recall.

High risk:

Randy Hopper (Fond du Lac) won by only 163 votes in 2008. I'd call that one at very serious risk.

Alberta Darling (River Hills) won by 1% in 2008, just over 1,000 votes. I'd call that one at serious risk.

Some risk:

Dan Kapake (La Crosse) won reelection by less than 3% in 2008, about 2500 votes, slightly smaller margin than when he took the seat. He ran for congress in 2010 and lost by almost 4%. I'd say there's some risk to this seat.

Little risk:

Sheila Harsdorf (River Falls) won by 12% in 2008, over 11,000 votes. Probably safe.

No risk:

Rob Cowles (Allouez) won with 99.35% of the vote. I think he's safe.

Luther Olseon (Ripon) won with 99.35% of the vote. I think he's safe too.

11 posted on 06/03/2011 3:58:38 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The story really doesn't identify him.

Exactly! Why is that? Did we draw Sumi again?

This is terrible reporting by JSOnline. They know who the judge is.

12 posted on 06/03/2011 4:02:55 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: afraidfortherepublic

yes, he is ID’d in the story but not till many paragraphs down.


13 posted on 06/03/2011 4:07:46 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Jean S

what’s outrageous?? the ruling?? or that once again the GOP takes it lying down????


14 posted on 06/03/2011 4:08:00 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: God luvs America
or that once again the GOP takes it lying down????

How in the heck do you know that the WI GOP is taking it "lying down"?

15 posted on 06/03/2011 4:10:05 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jean S

Of course it outrageous but then again, it is expected given it is a libtard judge granting such. =.=


16 posted on 06/03/2011 4:10:22 PM PDT by cranked
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To: newzjunkey

You can’t rely on the past support levels for this election to be indicative of the probable results - the dynamics are completely different here. There is as much energy in the Republican supporters as there is in the Democrats’, perhaps more so.


17 posted on 06/03/2011 4:10:53 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: Jean S

Obama has a hatred on for this state, and is sending his goon squad to overwhelm us, Scott Walker and Paul Ryan specifically. We’re going to be in this mode for a good long time. Buckle down Wisconsin.


18 posted on 06/03/2011 4:14:27 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: EDINVA

Where? I can’t find the judge’s name in the article.


19 posted on 06/03/2011 4:14:48 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: fwdude
You can’t rely on the past support levels for this election to be indicative of the probable results
That's a good point. My mother is an example. Even though she normally votes Republican, she has always voted for her Democrat State Senator (Holperin), because she thought he was a "good man" and that he "cared for his constituents".

However, after seeing Holperin and the other Dems run away last spring, she is absolutely furious at him. She signed the recall petition, and will be voting to have him recalled (assuming some Dane County judge doesn't manage to throw out the recall petitions against the Dems).

I can't believe that my mother is alone in her feelings, but I haven't heard anything in the news about a backlash against the "run and hide" Dems. If they manage to have an honest recall election, I suspect that the Dems won't be happy with the results.

20 posted on 06/03/2011 4:18:40 PM PDT by Johnny B.
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To: Jean S

where’s all the outrage???


21 posted on 06/03/2011 4:24:55 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: Jean S
You know, there ought to be something valuable risked by trying to recall a Wisconsin elected official. The WI Constitution ought to be amended to provide that if the elected official in office successfully defends his office in a recall election, he gets to apply the victory towards the subsequent term - a sort of early, "pre"-election. This should give a little pause to any cowards' attempt at recalling willy-nilly in a juvenile temper tantrum.

And, yes, this should include the Governorship as well.

22 posted on 06/03/2011 4:25:31 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: Johnny B.

I hope your mother’s case is multiply by 1,000’s.


23 posted on 06/03/2011 4:27:07 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: Always Independent
Don’t know if they are elected, but they should be adding that judge to the recall list.

This brings up the idea of recalling judges by impeachment or re-ordering/re-districting through legislative means. I hope it does not come to this, but the activists judges must feel the pain, politically, for their errant ways.

24 posted on 06/03/2011 4:33:48 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Sarah pisses off all the right people! - FReeper proudpapa)
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To: Jean S

Everyone needs to look at the link in the Website for “2011 state Senate recalls at a glance” and notice that the 3 Democrats being recalled have multiple R challengers, implying a runoff will possibly occur in each. Is this some kind of underhanded trick by dems to use as a spoiler or time waster?


25 posted on 06/03/2011 4:46:43 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; smoothsailing; afraidfortherepublic

Per UPI a couple of days ago the judge who was to decide this is John W. Markson.
Not sure why JS Online didn’t mention that.


26 posted on 06/03/2011 4:53:28 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: God luvs America

Ever the optimist, I see a possible unintended advantage for the Pubbies. Essentially they are looking at two elections in the span of a week with all eligible voters, regardless of party, being able to vote in both.

The first election involves recalls of six Republicans which means win, lose or draw voters that support the Pubbies will know in short order what the score is a week before the recall votes for the three Dems. So if somehow two or three Pubbies lose there is the distinct advantage of ginning up enough outrage to overcome any pro-Dem voters in the subsequent vote. Granted there is a visa-versa aspect to this but if the Pubbies can hold their seats then the second vote would ironically be an opportunity for a pickup(s).

Also: Notice how the Dems are showing no concern for the elderly and/or minority voters that supposedly have to overcome the stiff obstacles the Dems always proclaim (when raging against voter ID) not once but twice. And how much more will the cost be to get the election apparatus through it’s paces twice? And let’s not even think about the inevitable legal wrangling after the initial dust settles.

Last: I truly believe that there is a strong underlying voter outrage that elected Prosser by a small but insurmountable margin and has been heating up even more due to the two month inane legal wrangling put forward by The Klopper.


27 posted on 06/03/2011 5:04:06 PM PDT by torchthemummy ("Truth Is A Stubborn Thing")
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To: torchthemummy

I second every point you made.


28 posted on 06/03/2011 5:10:43 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: torchthemummy

i hope you are correct...


29 posted on 06/03/2011 5:11:42 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: Jean S; afraidfortherepublic
Per UPI a couple of days ago the judge who was to decide this is John W. Markson. Not sure why JS Online didn’t mention that.

6th paragraph---

Markson on Friday gave the board another week - until June 10 - to review the petitions for the Democrats.

30 posted on 06/03/2011 5:33:21 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Yep, I just had an email conversation with the author. He said he didn’t put the judge’s name that far down in the article.


31 posted on 06/03/2011 5:40:39 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“That means that it is made up entirely of activist Democrats and brain dead, senile Republicans. s/off”

Ah! Sort of like a Sunday AM talk-show panel! Now I understand.


32 posted on 06/03/2011 6:19:37 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Jean S

There’s not one area of Wisconsin government (state, local, judiciary) that the unions have not corrupted.


33 posted on 06/03/2011 6:23:07 PM PDT by Hamilcar_Barca
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To: newzjunkey

Hopper is done. Tons of government workers in his district plus he has the problem of living with his girlfriend while still married and reporting his wife’s house as his address.

Darling is a moderate and is lazy. Not much fight in her and she’s a real coaster. I was at a small fundraiser with her a couple months back and people were just yelling at her and she just kept falling back that Walker should back her and she wouldn’t campaign - doing my job, blah blah. I was very unimpressed.

Kapanke would seem to be in good shakes. Kind is a very good candidate for the Dems (all-american, sports star, smart guy), and Kapanke was within 4 points.

Harsdorf is a nothing race.

Cowles and


34 posted on 06/03/2011 6:37:37 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: fwdude

Running fake primary challengers is standard Dem playbook.

Frankly, I find it to be effective strategy.

In conservative Ozaukee county, we ended up with a school board member as our assemblyman in a special election.

I don’t know enough about the guy to say for sure, but am willing to default against any school board member in any election. I have yet to find one that isn’t a crook and union tool among those who stick with it.


35 posted on 06/03/2011 6:40:49 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: Jean S

Democrats refuse to do their job, and judges protect them.

Republicans do their job and judges undermine them.

Time to recall some judges.


36 posted on 06/03/2011 6:49:28 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Jean S

Our Republicans are not saying anything about this.

They are not doing anythign about this.

The governor needs to abolish the current GAB board.

The legislature needs to remove these judges for bad conduct.

They won’t do it. Short of direct overthrow we are run by pussies and commies.


37 posted on 06/03/2011 7:01:19 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Jean S
This is the old "Republicans vote on Monday, Democrats vote on Tuesday" scam, but literally.

Everybody will be focused on the first election (Republicans), and then will forget about the election a week later (didn't we, like, just vote?).

The delay for Democrats was only about splitting the elections over two weeks. Republicans should make this an equal protection argument. Elections for all parties are held on the same day, except for the occasional party primary.

-PJ

38 posted on 06/03/2011 7:10:46 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: Jean S

Actually this is normal for Wisconsin.
The dems have the judges, the unions, and Madison, and Milwaukee!

Now, the pubies are trying to undo all of this bs, and some judge puts another bump in the road.

I hope these a$$holes end up steeling the taxpayers resolve, else we will go back to socialist rule again.
And Socialism is really communism without the gun pointing at your head.


39 posted on 06/03/2011 7:36:36 PM PDT by devistate one four (Popping smoke! 2012 the year of the taxpayer! TET68)
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To: Johnny B.

I was driving around Vilas county and can now say that “Simac for Senate” signs are poping up more and more!

I get my sign and stickers on Monday!

Regards!


40 posted on 06/03/2011 7:42:50 PM PDT by devistate one four (Popping smoke! 2012 the year of the taxpayer! TET68)
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To: newzjunkey

Thank you for a thoughtful post.

I think it is Hopper who has the problem with his mistress, so he is surely going to lose.

Darling has good local organization, so a toss up.

Kapake has really turned off independents with his snotty style. I put him likely to lose.

I agree with the rest of your assessments.


41 posted on 06/03/2011 8:23:35 PM PDT by saltus (God's Will be done)
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To: Jean S

You peasants go to hell.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to get back to the hard work of raising your and taking your freedom.

Have a nice day.

/sarc(?)


42 posted on 06/03/2011 11:08:54 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Jean S

We are near the WI border here in Illinois. I have an army buddy from Janesville who is active TEA party. We were talkin on the phone the other night about something else, but this came up, and he was happy about it.

He thinks it is a victory for the R’s, because if the dem vote is a week later, most of the college kids will be back in their home states, which gives the R’s a better chance at the recall on the dem candidates.

I don’t know the ins and outs of how all this works, someone else from WI with a better understanding of the recall and demographics would have to explain it.

I’m not saying this is correct, I am just mentioning another point of view.


43 posted on 06/04/2011 3:41:55 AM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: Jean S; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; JPG; bushwon; Principle Over Politics; ...
Wisconsin Politics Ping List Ping!
44 posted on 06/04/2011 5:35:34 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Jean S

Typical. The State Supreme Court needs to step in and declare this BS.


45 posted on 06/04/2011 6:38:56 AM PDT by Shady (The President has become Judas.......)
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To: esoxmagnum

Only, with multiple challengers on the Republican side (stealth “Republicans?”) there might be one or more runoffs a month later if one candidate doesn’t get a majority. I’m sure this is a tactic by the Lefties.


46 posted on 06/04/2011 6:41:19 AM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: Jean S

Rats will be rats.


47 posted on 06/04/2011 11:55:03 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: YHAOS

“Rules for thee but not for me.”

Liberals just don’t beleive in rules for themselves only for their competition. Dane County Wisconsin seems to be the leftist mecca of that state, a quick map search of the country provides a hint why.

Dane County hosts the State capital and of course leftist have always huddle around capitals(centers of power) like moths to a flame.


48 posted on 06/04/2011 9:15:50 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise
Dane County hosts the State capital and of course leftist have always huddle around capitals(centers of power) like moths to a flame.

Dane County also hosts the State University, as well as the State Capitol. Thereby creating a fertile cess pool for the breeding of liberal thought.

49 posted on 06/04/2011 9:26:46 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: devistate one four
And Socialism is really communism without the gun blatantly pointing at your head.

the infowarrior

50 posted on 06/05/2011 1:12:48 AM PDT by infowarrior
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