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Animal Rights Activists Calling For Ban Of Horse-Drawn Carriages In NYC
newyork.cbslocal.com ^

Posted on 06/05/2011 7:04:14 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Animal Rights Activists Calling For Ban Of Horse-Drawn Carriages In NYC June 5, 2011 9:30 AM

Reporting Sophia Hall

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – Animal rights activists want horse-drawn carriages to ride off into the sunset.

Dozens rallied Saturday at Central Park to protest what they call safety hazards and animal cruelty.

“It really isn’t a safe environment for anybody and we have to use our powers of human empathy to relieve horses of this grinding work,” said assemblywoman Linda Rosenthal.

Rosenthal said she feels sick inside when she sees the horses and carriages on the side on the road. “The horses have to work in the heat, in the winter,” she said. ”I was looking at them today, their feed was filled with pigeons.”

She said places like Biloxi, Mississippi and Beijing, China have banned horse and carriage rides and because the city council refused to act on the ban, Rosenthal said they will fight for the ban on a state level.

(Excerpt) Read more at newyork.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: newyork; newyorkcity
loons..........
1 posted on 06/05/2011 7:04:15 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

“The horses have to work in the heat, in the winter,”

If they asked the horses would they prefer this or the knackers yard then I think they might get a clue.

Mel


2 posted on 06/05/2011 7:07:16 AM PDT by melsec
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To: Sub-Driver

These people are idiots that know nothing about horses.


3 posted on 06/05/2011 7:08:36 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Sub-Driver

hope they stay away from Charleston....


4 posted on 06/05/2011 7:14:14 AM PDT by AndrewB (FUBO)
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To: Sub-Driver
She said places like Biloxi, Mississippi and Beijing, China have banned horse and carriage rides...

So the "logic" is that if Biloxi, MS and Beijing, China have done something, then it's obvious that New York City should do the same thing?

Pretty weak argument, there...

5 posted on 06/05/2011 7:14:33 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Sub-Driver
Pretty silly, well fed, groomed and exercised horses, that is not abuse. Maybe they could sell the horses to some idiot animal rights activist who knows nothing about horses, is broke, half crazy and lets them starve.
6 posted on 06/05/2011 7:16:18 AM PDT by dog breath
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To: Sub-Driver

We need to kill all domesticated animals to save them.


7 posted on 06/05/2011 7:18:36 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: Farmer Dean
New York experiences these paroxysms of do-gooder-ism every few years. I think I recall at one time they passed a city ordinance requiring the stables to be heated and they had to get the damn ordinance repealed before it killed all the horses.

I don't know which has done more harm, Walt Disney's Bambi or Black Beauty?

As far as I'm concerned, the world is never been the same since the Brits outlawed my favorite sport, foxhunting.


8 posted on 06/05/2011 7:23:27 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Sub-Driver
OBAMA FAN
9 posted on 06/05/2011 7:25:21 AM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I know one person that had two beautiful work horses. (gosh, I wish I could remember the breed but the ones with the long hair on those giant legs...) Anyways, he would hitch them up to logs. Knowing nothing about horses, I thought this odd until I saw how the horses reacted. They got all excited and literally backed up to the devices (don’t know the proper terms, sorry) to start pulling the logs. They LOVED it.


10 posted on 06/05/2011 7:26:19 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: nathanbedford

Most horses love having a job to do;these twits will never understand that fact.


11 posted on 06/05/2011 7:33:28 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: FrankR

Nice photo,the girl needs to be patient-Obama will be coming along soon......


12 posted on 06/05/2011 7:35:41 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Sub-Driver

¨Rusty! Rusty!!!¨


13 posted on 06/05/2011 7:41:11 AM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: JoeProBono; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Sub-Driver. I was tempted to put that gay rikshaw pic in this post. ;’)


14 posted on 06/05/2011 7:42:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Sub-Driver
These lib nutjobs don't think people should work for a living, so why horses? Apparently, all living creatures should sit on their @ss all day waiting for government handouts grown on trees and harvested from rainbows by overpaid public union workers who are allowed to get up off their @sses now & again, unless they don't feel like it on any given day.
15 posted on 06/05/2011 7:47:28 AM PDT by MCH
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To: Sub-Driver

My husband has a customer who is in charge of a sort of ASPCA for horses here in Texas.

She said they have to turn away “homeless” animals the economy has created. (Made worse by idiots who come down here thinking all they need is a couple of acres of grass.)

The law is pretty stiff down here for anyone who neglects or abuses...

The unfortunate result is that many are being taken across the border and dumped in Mexico.

You can imagine what happens to them there.

An out of work horse is a dead horse.


16 posted on 06/05/2011 7:48:41 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: Sub-Driver

But once the Greens have banned automobiles, how are we getting to work?


17 posted on 06/05/2011 7:50:45 AM PDT by tanuki (O-voters: wanted Uberman, got Underdog....)
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To: Mrs.Z

That is so sad! I always said that if I am ever able to get out of these darn suburbs and buy a place with some land/outbuildings, that I would allow the ASPCA to use the barn just for homeless horses. (granted, I will have to learn correct terminology and how to care for the but if there is a will...)


18 posted on 06/05/2011 7:53:05 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Sub-Driver

Save a horse, whip an animal-rights activist.


19 posted on 06/05/2011 7:56:30 AM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: SunkenCiv

20 posted on 06/05/2011 8:00:05 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: momtothree

Horses are VERY EXPENSIVE.

Just to keep them alive you need more than just native grass (at least west TX grass).

If you live in an area where there is plentiful local feed, the price goes down...

unfortunately, we have had all these fires (less grass, less feed.)


21 posted on 06/05/2011 8:04:48 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: tanuki

@ Tanuki
Work?
That’s the whole plan.No work ,but millions idle waiting for their “idol” to give them Obama cash.


22 posted on 06/05/2011 8:06:31 AM PDT by peteyd (A dog may bite you in the ass,but it will never stab you in the back.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Loons is too kind....maniacs is more like it. I wonder if this “loony maniac” has ever watched a western movie or TV show? I mean, how was the west settled?......uh, by station wagon....by semi trucks.....by rental vans?? These horses are doing what they were designed and created to do. I would be the first one to complain if I saw one underfed or abused but so far I haven’t seen it.....in pics or in person. Some people have entirely too much time on their hands and too little brains in their heads!


23 posted on 06/05/2011 8:10:33 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
“We need to kill all domesticated animals to save them”.

That is exactly what will happen to horses, cows and all domesticated animals if they are not used for their intended purpose. I am not in favor of mistreating any animal but animal rights whackos are nuts!

24 posted on 06/05/2011 8:18:33 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Exactly. People have this fantasy about horses frolicking around a pasture chasing butterflies. Maybe they should go out and look at how non-domesticated horses (mustangs, for example) live: on the verge of starvation much of the time, fighting with each other to stay alive, and constantly pursued by predators.

Horses are expensive to keep and feed, and if they didn’t have any use to human beings, they’d have disappeared by now.

In addition, I can tell you (as a horse owner) that horses actually like to work. They like the attention, they like the stability, and some horses even take training as a sort of challenge (good race horses and dressage horses are not being “abused,” but actually have enough smarts to enjoy doing something well).

The carriage horses here in my little town spend most of their days being fed carrots and being brushed by the drivers while they wait for fares, broken up by 20 minute trips around town. Their worst threat is probably that of having their noses rubbed off by the friendly tourists...

I grew up in New York and used to love to go down to pat the horses on the edge of the park when I was a kid. When I was back there a couple of weeks ago, I was happy to see kids standing next to a horse and giving him little shy pats while the Irish driver told them something unintelligible about how to take care of a horse.


25 posted on 06/05/2011 8:28:53 AM PDT by livius
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To: tanuki
But once the Greens have banned automobiles, how are we getting to work?

Maybe PETA will pull the rickshaws. Could be interesting in a foot of snow...

26 posted on 06/05/2011 8:33:15 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Haven't they ever watched the Andy Griffith episode Goodbye, Dolly?
27 posted on 06/05/2011 8:43:09 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: livius

If cows weren’t used for meat and milk do you think anyone would keep them for pets? There might be the odd pair in the zoo... but wait...... zoos are cruel!


28 posted on 06/05/2011 8:44:22 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Sub-Driver
This really hits home for me. I don't have a carriage business but I do show my Shire drafts which are on the endangered list. Without a purpose or a job, animals will become extinct which is exactly what these whack jobs want. As you can see, I also abuse my horses from birth to maturity....
29 posted on 06/05/2011 8:52:11 AM PDT by LadyShires
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To: livius

“Their worst threat is probably that of having their noses rubbed off by the friendly tourists..”

My two daughters pose even a more serious threat. They like to kiss them on their noses. Not sure if the horse minds or not. I’ve done all that I can do to sway them from this cruel behavior to no avail /s.


30 posted on 06/05/2011 8:58:00 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: LadyShires
The first picture is beautiful! I'm stealing a copy to send
to my “horse whisperer” stepdaughter.
31 posted on 06/05/2011 9:37:16 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: AndrewB

San Nicolas, Manila would be an eye-opener for them!


32 posted on 06/05/2011 9:39:25 AM PDT by punchamullah
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To: Ditter
That is exactly what will happen to horses, cows and all domesticated animals if they are not used for their intended purpose.

My point exactly.

33 posted on 06/05/2011 9:44:38 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: melsec

Wild horses live in the hot summer and cold winter, without even the shelter of barns - and fear of being eaten by predators. Shall we ban wild horses for the hardship of their lives?


34 posted on 06/05/2011 10:16:05 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Sub-Driver

ALL Animal Rights whackos must be summarily dispatched for the good of the planet.


35 posted on 06/05/2011 10:19:34 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Anthony Weiner is a little cocky.)
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To: livius
People have this fantasy about horses frolicking around a pasture chasing butterflies.

That's not a fantasy. In my former job as an Undercover Horse looking for illegal salt-lick trafficking, most of the horses I met did, indeed, frolic, and many chased butterflys. If a horse catches one and eats it, they crap skittles for a week, so it is not only entertaining, but profitable.

36 posted on 06/05/2011 10:25:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Anthony Weiner is a little cocky.)
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To: Lazamataz

Acht Duke Ziebert!

I gefigured sumpin made you giddyup gegegen today.

The brown ones aren’t skittles man. They’re.. uh... uh..ah furgessen


37 posted on 06/05/2011 10:38:28 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: tbw2

By their criteria we should!


38 posted on 06/05/2011 11:47:24 AM PDT by melsec
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