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Posted on 06/10/2011 9:07:51 AM PDT by kayak42

Newt is through.

Romney has way to much baggage with Romneycare and man-made global warming.

Ten years as governor of a real state is significant.

Perry and Cain both have business experience and can explain the economy.

Perry has an immigration problem, but his stand was necessary in Texas.


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1 posted on 06/10/2011 9:07:54 AM PDT by kayak42
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To: kayak42
Perry has an immigration problem, but his stand was necessary in Texas.

Go make excuses elsewhere.

You, and Perry, will get no sympathy or support making excuses for the inexcusable on FreeRepublic.
2 posted on 06/10/2011 9:12:01 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: kayak42

Sorry, I don’t have Stockholm Syndrome, nor am I driven by irrational fear of general election polls over a year out of the race. I’ve seen the Rick Perry movie before and it ends with a Kenyan in the White House. No thanks.


3 posted on 06/10/2011 9:13:09 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (We're stuck between Obama's policies that suck and his ineptitude that blows.)
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To: kayak42
Perry has the benefit of being governor of a conservative state, which makes his track record look conservative. Make no mistake, if Perry had been governor of Massachusetts, we'd be talking about Perrycare. He's as much of a political windsock as Romney.
4 posted on 06/10/2011 9:13:38 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: kayak42

I am a Cain fan but which of the two brings foreign policy experience? This would be an achilles heel for this ticket.


5 posted on 06/10/2011 9:13:51 AM PDT by Grunthor (Make the lefts' collective brain cell implode; Cain/Bolton 2012.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Did Perry put the sanctuary city bill on the list for the special session?


6 posted on 06/10/2011 9:13:58 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: kayak42

Are you asking a question? And exactly why was Perry’s stance in Texas necessary? So he could lie and get elected? I would have much preferred that he stand by the law and say illegal aliens means illegal entry which warrents being immediately deported to your home country where you belong instead of being held up and fed by taxpayers only for the feds to release them again.

Right now I don’t want somebody who is soft on our illegal alien problem. I want somebody prepared to uphold the law...every word of it.


7 posted on 06/10/2011 9:14:22 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: kayak42

No. No. And no again. Perry has many more problems than immigration - DREAM Act, Texas Corridor, barely makes it to RINO status and then only during election time, etc. What’s this you say about it being necessary for Texas? That makes no sense no matter how it’s meant.

The general public would never put another Texan in office this soon after the Bushes. I don’t know that the next round would be a long enough time and yes, I’m a Texan.


8 posted on 06/10/2011 9:14:49 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: kayak42

Newt, Romney, Obvious to the most casual observer, they’re done before they start.


9 posted on 06/10/2011 9:15:47 AM PDT by 4Speed
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To: kayak42

Newt, Romney, Obvious to the most casual observer, they’re done before they start.


10 posted on 06/10/2011 9:16:00 AM PDT by 4Speed
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To: SoConPubbie

“You, and Perry, will get no sympathy or support making excuses for the inexcusable on FreeRepublic.”

Voter ID bill. Sanctuary city bill. I support that.


11 posted on 06/10/2011 9:17:28 AM PDT by Flightdeck (If you hear me yell "Eject, Eject, Eject!" the last two will be echos...)
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To: kayak42

The bottom line against Perry is that the things he chose to lead on were things like Gardasil and the Trans Texas Corridor. On both issues, it took massive public outcry to stop him from getting his way.

Remember when we had to stomp our feet to get Bush to stop with Harriet Myers? Dubai Ports? Amnesty?

This country is on the verge of complete collapse. We CANNOT afford someone who needs the people of this country to tell him what common sense is. We need someone who can LEAD and LEAD in the RIGHT DIRECTION!


12 posted on 06/10/2011 9:17:27 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (We're stuck between Obama's policies that suck and his ineptitude that blows.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Don't forget gardasil (SP) and the transtexas toll road!
13 posted on 06/10/2011 9:17:40 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: SoConPubbie
"You, and Perry, will get no sympathy or support making excuses for the inexcusable on FreeRepublic."

Last I knew you don't speak for Free Republic. And I for one would support a Perry/Cain candidacy in a heartbeat. Not all of us are Palin Worshipers.

14 posted on 06/10/2011 9:18:32 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (artemis_webb@yahoo.com --Lord knows how long before I'm banned so please say hello sometime.)
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To: kayak42

My guess is that the Newt debacle means he had surrounded himself with progressives. That says a lot about the man.


15 posted on 06/10/2011 9:19:25 AM PDT by pallis
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To: The_Victor
"Perry has the benefit of being governor of a conservative state, which makes his track record look conservative. Make no mistake, if Perry had been governor of Massachusetts, we'd be talking about Perrycare."

And you know this how? Sounds like one man's opinion to me.

16 posted on 06/10/2011 9:20:15 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (artemis_webb@yahoo.com --Lord knows how long before I'm banned so please say hello sometime.)
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To: kayak42
Here ya go, this oughta set the Perry haters hair on fire.

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17 posted on 06/10/2011 9:21:35 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: kayak42
Perry has an immigration problem, but his stand was necessary in Texas.

WTF? What sort of RINO talk is that?

If there's anyplace where a firm stand should be taken against illegal immigration, it's Texas. We're being inundated with illegals.

Perry's continual failure to do so is evidence of his total lack of qualification to be president.

18 posted on 06/10/2011 9:22:43 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: smoothsailing

I don’t hate Rick Perry. I just don’t think he’s what we need right now. While I’d still be concerned about him becoming president in the future, I’d be more than happy with that ticket.


19 posted on 06/10/2011 9:24:38 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (We're stuck between Obama's policies that suck and his ineptitude that blows.)
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To: Flightdeck

Perry is not the guy. He hasn’t even put the anti groping bill on the special session agenda. It has overwhelming support in the Texas legislature. This is the guy who signed a bill forcing people to get their 13 year old girls a Gardisil vaccination. Forget it.


20 posted on 06/10/2011 9:25:30 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Artemis Webb
Not all of us are Palin Worshipers

Worshiper or not I think Palin will fire up the liberal base which has been nicely depressed by Obama.

21 posted on 06/10/2011 9:25:51 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: jospehm20
Did Perry put the sanctuary city bill on the list for the special session?

Don't know, don't care.

He came out against AZ1070.

That's all I, and any other right-thinking conservative, needs to know.
22 posted on 06/10/2011 9:25:51 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Artemis Webb

Palin worshippers? Awww, that’s raw, Sir. Since when is wanting a strong conservative candidate who has a clear record of getting the job done considered worshipping? And why would it nixx you off in the first place.

Perry has a clear record of NOT GETTING THE JOB DONE, and this legislative session shows that CLEAR RECORD. He sat back and watched the whole time and let the really important legislation back up until the end and he STILL is not pulling up the legislation we clearly value!

To clean up Washington DC, we have to have a candidate who will step foot in the Oval Office and start slashing and burning government programs NOW! We are in a serious load of krap, in case you didn’t notice. Are we going to have to sit back and wait for Perry to get the load out of his behind for four years?

I like Cain, and I like having Perry for governor as opposed to having Bill White for governor. But in the Oval Office I would like to have somebody with a clear record of success, and you cannot deny what Sarah Palin accomplished in a mere three years of her governorship, INCLUDING the crown jewel of putting corrupt elected officials in jail, even in her own party.


23 posted on 06/10/2011 9:27:55 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: kayak42

Perry wants open borders because that’s the popular view in Texas? Is that what you’re saying?


24 posted on 06/10/2011 9:32:53 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Coming soon...DADT for Christians!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

This is the guy who signed a bill forcing people to get their 13 year old girls a Gardisil vaccination.


Just to set the record straight Perry signed no such bill as one was never enacted by the legislature.


25 posted on 06/10/2011 9:33:33 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport; Georgia Girl 2
Just to set the record straight Perry signed no such bill as one was never enacted by the legislature.

That's true, however, he pushed real hard for the bill and if he had his way, it would be law right now.
26 posted on 06/10/2011 9:35:44 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: deport

Public outcry had to set him straight.

I ask you honestly, how well are we doing with the ‘elect them now and hold their feet to the fire’ strategy? How did that work out with Bush? The 2005 congress? Now?

We’re going down the tubes and we can’t afford to put someone in office that doesn’t get it on his own without us constantly reminding him.


27 posted on 06/10/2011 9:37:05 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (We're stuck between Obama's policies that suck and his ineptitude that blows.)
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To: SoConPubbie; Georgia Girl 2

So as I said Perry signed no such bill as so stated in a previous post.


28 posted on 06/10/2011 9:38:17 AM PDT by deport
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To: RowdyFFC

Sounds like another Bush to me. Opposition to illegal immigration is one of my litmus test. I know. I know. We voters aren’t supposed to have litmus tests for the candidates. Ideology is irrelevant. Electability is paramount. Support the party at all costs. YUCK!


29 posted on 06/10/2011 9:40:19 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Coming soon...DADT for Christians!)
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To: deport

I do believe he just skipped the whole “legislation” part and made it an executive order.


30 posted on 06/10/2011 9:40:37 AM PDT by Politicalmom (“Obama has put the wrong gas in the tank of our economy.”-Herman Cain)
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To: kayak42

Cain is a rock solid conservative, but his best hope is as someone’s VP. He has the same problem Palin had a few years ago. Solid beliefs without comprehensive understanding. There’s some fundamental questions like ‘Do you support gun control?’, ‘Do you support the right of return?’ or ‘What would your policy in Afghanistan and Iraq be?’ that you simply need to have straight answers on. The guy has never run in the big leagues before, and it shows.

Perry is not a rock solid conservative, but he is a veteran politician who reliably wins elections and has a record with more good in it than bad. He’s not going to get caught in rookie mistakes in a major national campaign. By comparison, his resume looks awfully strong compared to Barack Obama. Lots of jobs created, strong overall economy.

The GOP-E is going to run a full court press to get Romney the nomination, and Mittens has the money and name recognition to do it. Novelty candidates aside, there’s only a handful of folks in Mitt’s league (called governors), and Perry is one of them.

If Palin doesn’t run, then we need a plan B. (And B doesn’t stand for Bachmann. Representatives just don’t get elected President, especially junior ones.) I’m open to suggestions, but unless Palin or Perry steps up and gets in the ring, we’re going to get stuck with Romney.


31 posted on 06/10/2011 9:47:36 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: kayak42

Cain is a rock solid conservative, but his best hope is as someone’s VP. He has the same problem Palin had a few years ago. Solid beliefs without comprehensive understanding. There’s some fundamental questions like ‘Do you support gun control?’, ‘Do you support the right of return?’ or ‘What would your policy in Afghanistan and Iraq be?’ that you simply need to have straight answers on. The guy has never run in the big leagues before, and it shows.

Perry is not a rock solid conservative, but he is a veteran politician who reliably wins elections and has a record with more good in it than bad. He’s not going to get caught in rookie mistakes in a major national campaign. By comparison, his resume looks awfully strong compared to Barack Obama. Lots of jobs created, strong overall economy.

The GOP-E is going to run a full court press to get Romney the nomination, and Mittens has the money and name recognition to do it. Novelty candidates aside, there’s only a handful of folks in Mitt’s league (called governors), and Perry is one of them.

If Palin doesn’t run, then we need a plan B. (And B doesn’t stand for Bachmann. Representatives just don’t get elected President, especially junior ones.) I’m open to suggestions, but unless Palin or Perry steps up and gets in the ring, we’re going to get stuck with Romney.


32 posted on 06/10/2011 9:47:48 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: kayak42
Issues aside, I find him just, plain creepy. With his spray tan and forced smile, he looks like a “dream” from Mystery Date. Very Romneyesque.

I saw him on some show in an interview situation, and even though I agreed with him, his answers were so programmed and insincere that he just made me sick.

No thanks.

33 posted on 06/10/2011 9:51:19 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Laws named after kids are tyrannical.)
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To: Artemis Webb

Are you talking about the Perry that pulled 35% of the vote in a previous election and won the last one because of the choice between him and an establishment RINO (Kay Bailey Hutchinson).

I’ll stay home if that is the best the Repub’s can do...


34 posted on 06/10/2011 9:55:57 AM PDT by CenTex (My ammunition pile is growing... Hand loading is helping...)
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To: Politicalmom

I do believe he just skipped the whole “legislation” part and made it an executive order.


I know what he did but he didn’t sign legislation as so stated which isn’t true.


35 posted on 06/10/2011 9:57:30 AM PDT by deport
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To: RowdyFFC; SoConPubbie; Artemis Webb; perfect_rovian_storm; smoothsailing; deport; Steel Wolf
Let's play . . . WHO SAID IT?

Texas is the largest red state in the nation, and it has a strong, conservative governor.

While a bunch of politicians have gone to Washington, hat in hand, seeking a bailout, Governor Perry has said we should stimulate the economy with tax cuts and maintain spending discipline. Rick Perry is true to conservative principles even when others think the party needs to go a different direction. I like that about him: he doesn’t care which way the wind blows, he acts on his beliefs.

That's why I am supporting Governor Rick Perry for re-election. He does what is right regardless of whether it is popular. He walks the walk of a true conservative. And he sticks to his guns – and you know how I feel about guns!

With our current economic crisis, and working families worried about their pensions, jobs, credit card debt and rising home foreclosures, we need strong conservative leadership in trend-setting states like Texas.

Rick Perry is a leader. While the nation lost half a million jobs in the last year, Texas gained 250,000 net new jobs. He improved the job climate in Texas by refusing to raise taxes in the face of the largest budget deficit in Texas history. He had the foresight to join legislators in saving for a rainy day. And he has consistently asked agency heads to cut their budgets even when surpluses were rolling in. My fellow Republicans, that’s consistent leadership. That's Rick Perry.

Governor Perry has also advocated for greater domestic drilling for energy, and a diversified energy mix – including greater development of renewable sources – so America is not held hostage by Middle East ayatollahs and foreign dictators. But in order to overcome extremist opposition to responsible exploration, we need proven leaders in energy states like Texas who will not back down when it up comes to expanding the energy supply.

Let me say one more thing about my friend and your governor: he knows all human life is precious. Rick Perry believes in protecting the most vulnerable in society, and who is more vulnerable than an unborn child? Our value as human beings in the eyes of Our Creator is not diminished by any circumstance.

Not every child is born into ideal circumstances, but every life is sacred. Rick Perry knows this – it is at the core of his being.

Will you join me in supporting a true conservative for governor – Rick Perry? We need Texas’ diverse and strong economy to help pull us out of our economic troubles. That requires a proven CEO as the head of state government. Rick Perry is proven and principled. And we need that in the governor of our nation’s second largest state and most prosperous economy.

And the answer is . . . SARAH PALIN.

http://www.rickperry.org/palin-letter
http://www.rickperry.org/files/PerryPalinLtr.pdf


36 posted on 06/10/2011 9:58:13 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Constitutional conservative who wants to win)
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To: Grunthor
I am a Cain fan but which of the two brings foreign policy experience?

Most recent Presidents have been governors. Governors don't have foreign policy experience.

37 posted on 06/10/2011 9:58:34 AM PDT by RINOs suck
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To: SoConPubbie

Is there an official FR policy on immigration?


38 posted on 06/10/2011 10:00:57 AM PDT by woofie
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To: CenTex
"I’ll stay home if that is the best the Repub’s can do..."

If Perry runs you can look forward to your long day at home.

39 posted on 06/10/2011 10:04:01 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (artemis_webb@yahoo.com --Lord knows how long before I'm banned so please say hello sometime.)
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To: woofie

I think it involves alligators and a moat... :p


40 posted on 06/10/2011 10:07:04 AM PDT by Politicalmom ("Obama has put the wrong gas in the tank of our economy."-Herman Cain)
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To: Charles Henrickson
Is this supposed to be news? I'd have endorsed Perry over KBH too. She endorsed McCain as well. Should I be pushing for McCain to run again?

Palin made a bunch of endorsements I don't agree with. Perry's choices of issues to lead on are of great concern to me.

Our nation is literally dying, Charles. Playing some kind of gotcha game with endorsement letters is exactly the kind of childish bullcrap that has helped to put us in this situation.

41 posted on 06/10/2011 10:07:23 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (We're stuck between Obama's policies that suck and his ineptitude that blows.)
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To: RowdyFFC
Perry has a clear record of NOT GETTING THE JOB DONE

He's not my first, second or third choice but Perry looks have a pretty economic track record:

http://www.discoverynews.org/2011/06/texas_strong_economy_boosts_pe047001.php

The economies of Dallas-Fort Worth and Houston metropolitan areas grew faster than the rest of the country in April, accounting together for 82,000 net new jobs. The numbers suggest that Texas will continue to lead the rest of the country when May employment numbers come out for metro areas. In April, the Texas gains amounted to about 45 percent of the (revised) national gain of 177,000 jobs.

Meanwhile, announced today, the whole net employment gain nationally for May was only 38,000. The stock market, banks and economists are getting worried.

Texas has been hit by the national downturn, but has bounced back better. Most of its economic indicators are positive. Oil and gas have much to do with it, of course, but so do state fiscal policies under Governor Rick Perry that contain spending and regulation and hold down taxes.

42 posted on 06/10/2011 10:07:46 AM PDT by RINOs suck
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To: Steel Wolf

Post #32 makes logical sense; but don’t forget the people elected Obama, a freshman senator with a hidden past?


43 posted on 06/10/2011 10:11:11 AM PDT by Java4Jay
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To: Grunthor
Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner.

Sitting governors always put someone with foreign policy chops (even Al Gore was talked up for having foreign policy expertise).

Bush/Cheney, Clinton/Gore, Reagan/Bush--the pattern is too strong.

44 posted on 06/10/2011 10:12:09 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Herman Cain knows math, computers, pizza, money, hamburgers, banking, and Coca-Cola)
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To: woofie
Is there an official FR policy on immigration?

Try posting you don't believe AZ1070 was good or you are against it and find out.
45 posted on 06/10/2011 10:16:00 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Artemis Webb
And you know this how? Sounds like one man's opinion to me.

It's a matter of a few steps of logic. Perry supported the effort to force girls at age 14 to take the human papilloma virus vaccine. He reversed his decision when public uproar convinced him that a majority of the state was against it. But he demonstrated that he is perfectly happy as a matter of state policy to implement big government solutions to health issues. Ergo, Perrycare.

46 posted on 06/10/2011 10:16:17 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: kayak42

I am really concerned that WA state Republicans are supporting Romney in ways that undermine conservative Republicans, including our own Republican candidate for governor.

The GOP invited Romney to speak at our state convention last year. There’s so much going on in this state that raises concerns, none of it good.


47 posted on 06/10/2011 10:18:05 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Charles Henrickson

Hey Charles,

That was an endorsement for Governor of Texas, not for POTUS.

So far, she has not endorsed him officially for POTUS.

Get back to me when she does.


48 posted on 06/10/2011 10:18:23 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: RINOs suck

Like I said before...Texas is full of reasonable, strong, clear-thinking individuals who keep this state humming and going in the right direction. And who continually have to slap Perry up side the head and steering him in that direction.

I will of course throw a vote for Perry if he is the last candidate standing. But I would prefer to have a really strong conservative candidate who will push and LEAD to slash and burn Washington DC, instead of joining establishment republicans who helped get us here.


49 posted on 06/10/2011 10:19:12 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: SoConPubbie

“That’s all I, and any other right-thinking conservative, needs to know.”

Glad you cleared that up for me.


50 posted on 06/10/2011 10:21:29 AM PDT by jospehm20
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