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Riotous Brawl outside San Jose Fast Food Restaurant - At Least Two Stabbed
CBS Local - San Francisco ^ | June 10, 2011 | staff, Matt Bigler

Posted on 06/10/2011 5:04:29 PM PDT by OldNewYork

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To: OldNewYork

The Amish having another go at the Mennonites again, I see.


41 posted on 06/10/2011 6:16:05 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: tet68

“I have the feeling we haven’t seen any thing yet.
Sure glad I don’t live in an urban enviroment any more.”

Yeah, what’s going on nationally parallels what was happening under Dinkins in New York, our first Black mayor. Things got worse before they got better, but they did get better. Most people are better off out away from this, but it is survivable with some of the common sense that gets the cliche name, ‘street smarts’. Some of that is avoiding places where riots like this are more likely.


42 posted on 06/10/2011 6:18:47 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork

“Some of that is avoiding places where riots like this are more likely.”

The problem is that these things are happening more and more where they are not likely. In NYC, places like Prospect Park, Brighton Beach, Union Square...shopping malls, restaurants, movie theaters.

Cellphones are enabling these young thugs to assemble a dangerous mob anywhere.


43 posted on 06/10/2011 6:22:25 PM PDT by Palladin (Sarah Palin in 2012!)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

I appreciate the ironic humor, but actual Amish do get into fights, even if not like this, mostly on rumspringa. We can just call things as they are - not much need for codewords, just stating the truth plainly. That’s more our strength. Circumlocution and euphemism is more for the left, because they have to pretend things are something different from reality.

But yeah, it was an Anabaptist, pacifist barn-raising, for sure, according to comments on the story.


44 posted on 06/10/2011 6:23:18 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork

i’ve been to that McDonald’s many times... last time was about 7 years ago... i didn’t like the feel of it back then...


45 posted on 06/10/2011 6:24:34 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: whatisthetruth

“Bet you anything the blacks started it, they always do....”

I haven’t seen any information on that speculation. Comments on the article indicated the area was a war-zone at night, so there’s probably lots of lead-up to this, but I’m not from the area, and a local insight would clarify it.


46 posted on 06/10/2011 6:25:28 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: latina4dubya
i’ve been to that McDonald’s many times... last time was about 7 years ago... i didn’t like the feel of it back then...

now that i think about it, it's been about ten years! my baby boy was a baby at that time...

47 posted on 06/10/2011 6:25:46 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: NoLibZone; Ron H.

Wise advice, to be prepared for what’s possible. The police aren’t there to be your bodyguards or protect you; that’s actually on you. They investigate crimes that have already happened.

Most people deal with this by avoiding areas where it is likely, judged by where things like this have happened. But that leads to ‘no-go zones’ in our own country, for our own responsible citizens.


48 posted on 06/10/2011 6:28:12 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: Palladin

“The problem is that these things are happening more and more where they are not likely. In NYC, places like Prospect Park, Brighton Beach, Union Square...shopping malls, restaurants, movie theaters.”

That’s somewhat true, but even before this kind of communication, there would be what was called the bum-rush, or was later called wilding. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. As far as New York goes, I’ve lived in other cities where even in their worst neighborhoods locals wouldn’t go, I’d feel safer than I did in New York’s best neighborhoods. I think most New Yorkers would know from their own experience what I’m saying.

New York under Giuliani was actually a respite, but Bloomberg has mismanaged the relative peace he was handed, and things have taken a few steps back to the feel of Koch’s chaotic last term, which spun out into Dinkins’ only term.

Prospect Park is only on one or two sides contingent with ‘good’ neighborhoods - see above for what that means, really. At least one of them was only really gentrified fairly recently. It’s right on ghetto mess kind of areas. Union Square too is only recently a little more of a livable area. Bernhard Goetz lives a couple of blocks, if that, from there. When I was in high school we had trouble with a Black gang from a high school basically on Union Square that targeted our White students (not more than a slight majority at my school, if not just a plurality), but it never even made the local papers, so it’s more than unlikely anyone ever heard of it nationally. Brighton Beach generally is, relatively, free of at least disorganized crime, but shares Coney Island with housing projects as notorious as any in the city, and is at the terminus of the subway there.

Street smarts are still important, but you’re right about ‘flash mobs’ adding another dimension to this.


49 posted on 06/10/2011 6:42:24 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork

Diversity strikes again!


50 posted on 06/10/2011 6:43:18 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: OldNewYork
"Police spokesman Jose Garcia said race may have been a motive in the brawl, and that about half the group was Latino, the other half black."

Gee, ya think? I went to San Jose public schools 35 years ago for two years. Nothing's changed!

51 posted on 06/10/2011 6:54:28 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Sounds a bit like Mexicans and Blacks starting to squabble among themselves over who shall control the United States. A total fight between the two groups would actually break up the coalition that is conquering America. ....

All the while the radicalized Muslims are moving to fill that breach.

52 posted on 06/10/2011 7:07:44 PM PDT by Ron H.
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To: tet68
I have the feeling we haven’t seen any thing yet.

How about building a giant stadium and letting them fight it out to the last animal standing. Charge admission, maybe TV rights bring down the debt.

53 posted on 06/10/2011 7:08:32 PM PDT by bikerman (Where Has My America Gone?)
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To: OldNewYork

Lived in east San Jose for many years, right off of the 101 exit/Capitol Exp. near Aborn Road. Went to school at San Jose State. From what I remember of the neighborhood, the biggest problems were between Hispanics and Asians. Moved out in 94.

One day I remember there was a huge explosion nearby. A white family had blown up their house while mixing meth. Stupid spans all races.

Btw had really great neighbors who looked out for each other.


54 posted on 06/10/2011 7:21:16 PM PDT by Bed_Zeppelin
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To: bikerman

Those Republicans just can’t get along.


55 posted on 06/10/2011 7:23:20 PM PDT by kempo
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To: OldNewYork

Nobody here is pretending anything.just mocking political correctness


56 posted on 06/10/2011 7:36:47 PM PDT by Nooseman (mutt)
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To: Nooseman

That’s fine, but the Amish aren’t here to have their say, for obvious reasons. Plus, it’s kind of played out. If it’s Black crime, just call it that. If it’s Hispanic crime, just call it that. People not on-side aren’t going to think it’s cute. And people that are on-side aren’t going to need the circumlocution.


57 posted on 06/10/2011 7:42:34 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: Bed_Zeppelin

Thanks, it’s always better to have context from someone who knows the area, its history, demographics, etc. especially with the mainstream media having gotten as pathetic as it has.


58 posted on 06/10/2011 7:46:34 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork

Do you know the way to San Jose...
I hear it’s a good place
to get stabbed in the neck....


59 posted on 06/10/2011 7:47:37 PM PDT by Avery Iota Kracker (You say ma-ca-ca, I say mac-a-ca....)
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To: Avery Iota Kracker

New lyrics? I liked that song, too. California has so much going for it naturally; I sure hope all this nonsense gets sorted out and we get back to enjoying what we liked about our country soon.


60 posted on 06/10/2011 7:50:30 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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