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3 Year Battle For Parental Rights - Mother vs Former Girlfriend (Amazing story)
610 AM WTVN eadio ^ | 6/9/2011 | Unknown

Posted on 06/10/2011 8:46:34 PM PDT by tang-soo

The following was provided by Chuck Douglas - Talk Show Host for WTVN 610 AM Radio in Columbus, Ohio.

JULIE SMITH CASE IS FINALLY MOVING FORWARD

I have had Julie on the show a couple of times. I got this press release today. Pay particular attention to the next to last paragraph.

For Immediate Release

June 10, 2011

Mother Sentenced to Jail Vindicated by Appeals Court

On June 9, 2011, the Tenth District Court of Appeals for Franklin County vindicated the Mother of a seven-year old child who was sentenced to jail twice for refusing to comply with multiple invalid “temporary visitation orders” issued by the Franklin County juvenile court. In spite of being dubbed “temporary visitation orders” these invalid orders have been in effect for 975 days.

“While we are ecstatic with the ruling, justice has still not been served. It is indeed a sign of a broken system when a parent, a good parent, has to fight for 975 days and risk everything to get their child back” says biological mother, Julie Smith. “Precious time and memories with my child have been forever lost at the hands of a system that is supposed to protect my daughter and me” says Smith.

For more than two and a half years, Julie Smith has been fighting against a shared custody arrangement forced on her by former Franklin County Juvenile Magistrate Judge Rexanne Hosafras and Juvenile Judge Elizabeth Gill. In October 2008, Ms. Smith was sued by her former live- in girlfriend seeking shared custody of her then-5 year old daughter. Ms. Smith, an undisputed “great mom,” deliberately never agreed to share custody of her only child with the woman. However, in less than 30 days and without a hearing, former Magistrate Judge Hosafras “temporarily” awarded the ex girlfriend shared custody of the child while the petition for permanent shared custody was pending. Since then, former Magistrate Judge Hosafras and the Honorable Elizabeth Gill issued a series of extraordinary and expansive orders forcing Ms. Smith to share her daughter and ordering jail time if she didn’t. The Smith Family has incurred over $125,000 in legal fees appealing those orders over a course of nearly three years and yesterday, the Appeals Court agreed with Ms. Smith when it found that the juvenile court exceeded its authority by granting the ex girlfriend visitation.

Ms. Smith takes little solace in this decision, though, because the petition is still pending and scheduled for a long trial over the course of the summer. However, Smith’s case was recently reassigned to a new Magistrate Judge after former Magistrate Judge Hosafras left the bench to join the firm of Massucci and Cline which represents her former girlfriend. “If that doesn’t speak volumes, I don’t know what will” says Smith.

“I hope and pray for a fair hearing, but it has been a long 975 days and it is hard to believe in justice and fairness at this point, especially since Judge Hosafras has joined my former girlfriend’s legal team. You cannot imagine how painful it is when the court charged with protecting your child, without reason in law and fact, decides to insert itself into your life, into your family and take away your child. It’s utterly devastating,” says Smith.

Read more: http://www.610wtvn.com/pages/chuckdouglas.html#ixzz1Ow0BwJIP


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: courts; custody; homosexualagenda; parentsrights; visitation

1 posted on 06/10/2011 8:46:38 PM PDT by tang-soo
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To: tang-soo

The mother deserves this endless fight. There’s a price to pay for being stupid.

The child, not so much.


2 posted on 06/10/2011 8:50:54 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: tang-soo

Termination of parental rights would seem to be in order for subjecting her child to perverse influences.


3 posted on 06/10/2011 8:51:48 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Balding_Eagle

This is from the article, why do you believe the mother deserves this... she never agreed to shared custody of her daughter????:
“For more than two and a half years, Julie Smith has been fighting against a shared custody arrangement forced on her by former Franklin County Juvenile Magistrate Judge Rexanne Hosafras and Juvenile Judge Elizabeth Gill. In October 2008, Ms. Smith was sued by her former live- in girlfriend seeking shared custody of her then-5 year old daughter. Ms. Smith, an undisputed “great mom,” deliberately never agreed to share custody of her only child with the woman. However, in less than 30 days and without a hearing, former Magistrate Judge Hosafras “temporarily” awarded the ex girlfriend shared custody of the child while the petition for permanent shared custody was pending.”


4 posted on 06/10/2011 8:58:09 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee

Is the judge gay?

I cam see a lesbian using this situation to use the law to validate a lesbian relationship and try to make it seem like a marriage where the man fathered a child and is therefore entitled to custody/visitation.
Not saying that is what happened, but gay marriage was legalized by a gay judge who refused to recuse himself. Total conflict of interest.


5 posted on 06/10/2011 9:04:04 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: antceecee

She should never have decided to have a lesbian lover.


6 posted on 06/10/2011 9:08:11 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: antceecee
Since this is an ex girlfriend I really don't understand why she should even get to see the child at all. Maybe the mother has decided that gay was not for her or that this ex was not for her. It makes me angry that some asinine judges have the nerve to interfere with a mother & her child. This gay bs is going to ruin children's lives.
7 posted on 06/10/2011 9:11:42 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

That would be my bet.The judges have been put in place for some time.You cant trust people in positions of power.


8 posted on 06/10/2011 9:13:19 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: tang-soo

I’ve spent half a lifetime at the so-called “Hall Of Justice” on the sixth floor on S. High. It’s a miracle more people don’t go postal.


9 posted on 06/10/2011 9:22:30 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

I think you may have hit on something in the judge being gay or at least sympathetic to same.


10 posted on 06/10/2011 9:38:53 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

The law should never recognize someone who is not legally a spouse or blood family member as having rights to your child... I don’t care if you are a lesbian, a homosexual or a frog.


11 posted on 06/10/2011 9:40:57 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: pandoraou812

Exactly!!!! The ‘roommate’ has no rights to the child even if the mother gave the ‘roommate’ rights to her own self.


12 posted on 06/10/2011 9:45:29 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

So the child suffers the sins of the mother? Are you hoping for the mother to lose her rights to parent her child? Scary you are.


13 posted on 06/10/2011 9:47:27 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: tang-soo

Seems like she brought this on herself by her choice of lifestyles.

Too bad the kid is in the middle.

Some people just shouldn’t be parents since they are too selfish and can only think of themselves.


14 posted on 06/10/2011 9:49:57 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: antceecee

I think someone should check into the relationship between the ex-girlfriend and the judge. In the modern world you can never tell who is banging whom to get what they want. One has to watch over both shoulders.


15 posted on 06/10/2011 9:53:16 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: tang-soo

Their relationship was unnatural and under the Constitution cannot be equivalent to marriage. The child can not have two mothers unless the mother relinquishes her rights....which she didn’t. It is not biologically possible for the child to have two mothers and it is illegal for the courts to give “mother” rights to non biological people when their is a living mother. We are talking about inalienable rights...and the court can NEVER deny that right unless gross neglect.

The biological father also has inalienable rights to the child. The court is making up rights out of thin air and this can not stand.

It is denial of the fundamental inalienable right of that child to have a biological mother and biological father. Court does not have the power to deny nature and God’s Laws when it is the foundation of our legal system.

The judge needs to be fired. The courts that recognize “gay” marriage has to get back to the meaning and intent of our Constitution and Natural Law Theory and get rid of this irrational and unconstitutional coupling. It is shameful what the courts are doing to the child whom has inalienable rights that CANNOT be denied EVEN by a court.

Our courts have twisted the Constitution to some bizarre document which sounds like it is for a communist country built on whims of moral relativism.

Our laws are built on moral absolutes which cannot legally be ignored since our rights come from God. Their denial is a denial of our God-given rights.


16 posted on 06/10/2011 9:57:29 PM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Not so much?--How about "The child, not at all.

vaudine

17 posted on 06/10/2011 9:58:43 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: pandoraou812

IIRC the Mom is now married or at least engaged to the biological father of her child.I believe the ex girlfriend did this out of spite to interfere with the real family.


18 posted on 06/10/2011 10:09:12 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Truth is a Weapon

You most likely have hit it straight on the head.


19 posted on 06/10/2011 10:18:48 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: tang-soo

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20 posted on 06/10/2011 11:52:19 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: tang-soo; All
I think there would be an outcry if this judge had given custody of a 5 year old girl to a male with no biological or legal claim to her.

I hope folks think about this before we allow pols to change the definition of marriage. If it can happen to this woman it can happen to any parent.

This story is the best argument against gay marriage and civil unions. When you change the definition of "marriage" for a few you change the definition of "parent" for everyone.

21 posted on 06/11/2011 2:24:29 AM PDT by athelass (Proud Mom of a Sailor & 2 Marines! Pray for Netanyahu, Gen. Petraeus, Tornado Alley)
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To: tang-soo
Smith’s case was recently reassigned to a new Magistrate Judge after former Magistrate Judge Hosafras left the bench to join the firm of Massucci and Cline which represents her former girlfriend.

Er, can anyone say "conflict of interest?"

Pretty sure that disqualifies the entire firm from representing the ex-girlfriend.

22 posted on 06/11/2011 2:30:07 AM PDT by Abundy
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To: tang-soo

Wow! Last I heard this woman was on the run with her daughter. I’m glad things are looking up for them.


23 posted on 06/11/2011 2:40:28 AM PDT by Politicalmom ("Obama has put the wrong gas in the tank of our economy."-Herman Cain)
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To: PAR35

What I would like to know in this situation, is who the biological mother is. It may not dictate the right idea outright, but then again, I wonder if she was the child’s biological mother, if she could use that as part of a legal argument. I do feel, however, that if there was some serious fighting between these women in the home, it was not all that great for the child though.


24 posted on 06/11/2011 6:58:00 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: tang-soo

In bed with dogs, get fleas. If she conspired with the girlfriend to obtain the baby, the girlfriend gets shared custody.


25 posted on 06/11/2011 7:01:28 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: athelass

I agree with you on the marriage part, but it also gives plenty of the issues that come when people cohabit, including those who are not homosexual. It’s hell to pay when there are kids involved, and these cohabitation relationships actually do break up.


26 posted on 06/11/2011 7:23:42 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: pandoraou812

It’s an ex-girlfriend who was neither married, nor a biological parent of the child. The woman wishes, for whatever reason, that her ex-girlfriend not come close to the child. It sounds a lot like abuse as a reason. I hope that she and her daughter come around, but for now, the important part is to ask what the mother’s side of the story is. From reading the article, it sounds a great deal as if there is an unfair bias and the mother’s claim of abuse could be true. I just don’t know the full details.

The bad implications are that the legal structure and precedent of being a parent, legally and/or biologically, is being violated, and that is not good news.


27 posted on 06/11/2011 7:33:50 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: antceecee
The law should never recognize someone who is not legally a spouse or blood family member as having rights to your child... I don’t care if you are a lesbian, a homosexual or a frog.

Yes. And from what I remember from previous articles about this situation, the mother left the "gay" life, became (IIRC) a Christian, and of course never gave the previous gf any custody or parental rights etc.

28 posted on 06/11/2011 9:04:29 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: savagesusie

Great comments.

We are right on the brink of the abyss. It either turns around - back to solid, God-based Constitutional principles, or....

Rough road, very rough road.


29 posted on 06/11/2011 9:06:56 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: AppyPappy

There were several stories about this situation in the past. The ex girlfriend had nothing to do with the conception or birth of the child. The mother gave up the “gay” life and changed her life for the better. IIRC they didn’t even live together very long.

It’s an insane and disgusting and evil situation.

The mother turned her life around. This is a perfect example of Judges Gone Wild. And of course all those court appointed fiends, such child advocates and child protection agencies are larded with lesbians. Obviously not all or everywhere but it is a profession into which homosexuals have gravitated to.


30 posted on 06/11/2011 9:10:24 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

This is pure EVIL what this judge is doing to the child. Forcing an unnatural worldview that is sick and dysfunctional and ignoring the inalienable rights of a child to their biological mother and biological father.

Our Constitution can NOT recognize two “mothers”. The logic of that and this ignorant judges conception of biology and nature and Natural Rights is so evil and twisted. She lives in an upside down world where she is saying good is evil, and evil is good.

We have one standard of right and wrong set up in the Constitution which she is blatantly ignoring....God’s laws—it is written—NOT her made-up bizarre, sick laws.


31 posted on 06/11/2011 9:55:12 AM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: antceecee
The law should never recognize someone who is not legally a spouse or blood family member as having rights to your child... I don’t care if you are a lesbian, a homosexual or a frog.

This woman took unfair advantage of our Christian attitudes, especially the one of live and let live. She thought she could flaunt her lifestyle choice in our faces and get away with it.

Well, she wove a web of lies and deceit that entangled her.

While I hope, for the benefit of rest of society, that she eventually wins in court, there is a price to be paid for being so stupid, and I'm pleased that she's paying it.

32 posted on 06/11/2011 10:02:02 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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