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Paging Rick Perry: How a Southerner Could Sweep to the G.O.P. Nomination (getting into the weeds)
New York Times ^ | May 18, 2011 | Nate Silver's Political Calculus

Posted on 06/11/2011 12:05:03 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

MAY 18, 2011 - Being a Southerner conveys certain advantages upon a Republican presidential candidate.

Since 1980, a Southerner has finished first or second in every Iowa Republican presidential caucus.

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The White House has been occupied by a Southerner — counting the Massachusetts-born and decidedly patrician George H.W. Bush, who resided in Texas at the time he ran for office — in 30 of the past 46 years. I’m not sure this is entirely a coincidence....

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If a candidate dominates the South — and it’s much easier for a Southern candidate to do that — he’ll have made a lot of headway into winning the votes and delegates that he’ll need to secure his party’s nomination.... a candidate like Mr. Perry, who would have advantages like fundraising and establishment support that would extend to all corners of the country, ...doing very well in the South and still well enough outside of it to win his party’s nomination.

For a Republican candidate, in fact, this advantage may be especially powerful because of a demographic quirk related to Iowa, the first and most important state in the nominating process. Some 60 percent of Iowa Republican voters are born-again Christians — about the same fraction as in many Southern states....

......He’d stand a good chance at doing well in Iowa, and if he did, he’d probably follow it up with a win in South Carolina, and possibly also Florida. And then he’d pick up plenty of delegates in the Southern states that voted on Super Tuesday and beyond — including of course Texas, which itself accounts for 140 delegates.

So don’t sell the Southern Republicans short yet — the advantages the primary system offers to candidates like Mr. Perry could be more than enough to make up for a late start.

(Excerpt) Read more at fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; election; elections; guilianni2; illegals; kelovsnewlondon; perry; rickperry; rino
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To: Montfort

I was not mentioning them in order of preference or any order. Ron Paul would just be one more person to split the conservative votes, as I said.


21 posted on 06/11/2011 12:47:55 PM PDT by UniqueViews
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Being a Southerner conveys certain advantages upon a Republican presidential candidate."

Or, being a far, far Northerner...(wink wink)

22 posted on 06/11/2011 12:49:42 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: proudpapa
I?m finding it hard to get excited about Rick Perry when there are several better candidates.

You may be right but I think Governor Perry is the only GOP candidate who has what it takes to beat Obama.

23 posted on 06/11/2011 12:51:49 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: tbpiper

I like the Alaskan antivenin!

Perry has a lot to offer too — for one thing, he makes Sarah Palin’s accent sound good. Ha! (I don’t mind Sarah’s accent — I probably sound a bit like her myself).


24 posted on 06/11/2011 12:53:12 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Windflier

LOL

You betcha!


25 posted on 06/11/2011 12:53:43 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
GOP dimwits:
Rick Romney/Mitt Perry 2012
26 posted on 06/11/2011 12:58:06 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: x
Perry probably does stand a very good chance at winning the nomination. What could louse up his career at some point is that Texans (in the eyes of many non-Texans) don't know when to quit with the Texanism. The time comes when voters want Texanness. But Texans provide more of it than a lot of the rest of the country can bear.

True. I think Perry can be Cosmopolitan enough for the crowd. Another thing to factor in are all the northerners/midwesterners/westerners who have fled to the south (in particular TX) for jobs and lower taxes (maybe they'll email the folks who stayed behind and tell them to vote for the TX guy).

27 posted on 06/11/2011 12:58:17 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Every time I see Perry's name come up I'm going to use the proper word - RINO!

Perry has been the douche against the turd sandwich in EVERY one of his re-election campaigns. All the people running against him have been losers.

I'm not alone here and Texans in the know will keep posting about Perry over and over. He did nothing on the border, nothing about illegals except give their children in-state tuition rates, allowed santuary cities, the insane Guardasil mess which was just embarrasing for him, the Trans-Texas Corridor land grab. He is no conservative. He can talk like one and get someone to help him write a book and speeches where he sounds conservative but it is just an act.

Perry has no other skills than to be in some political office. He is like Weiner, he needs a job where the taxpayers pay him. Because he has no other skills. He will say and act any way that is required so he can set his sails so he has the wind to his back. There is no there there when it comes to Rick Perry. He is all talk.

RINO RINO RINO RINO!!!!

28 posted on 06/11/2011 12:58:58 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If only there was some way to guardasil Perry from becoming the nominee. Maybe the Texas Transit Corridor has some ideas.


29 posted on 06/11/2011 1:04:56 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: ilovesarah2012

I have posted before against Perry, but, contrary to what some are saying, his record is no worse than mixed. Bachmann is more consistently conservative, but Perry has a more conservative record than most of the field. He has also been an effective legislative strategist in a weak-governor form of state government.

What are his flaws? His endorsing Rudy in 2008 was an absurd thing for a Texas governor to do. Then, there are the TTC and Gardasil fiascos. He also has been more talk than action on border enforcement until recently (but he has been quite serious on the border issue in this legislative session). Nevertheless, he has done a moderately good job of constraining taxes and spending (under the Texas Constitution he has far less legislative influence than outsiders would assume), he has been consistently good on promoting a culture of life, and he has been willing to stand up to the Feds on occasion (including mentioning the “S” word (secession), which is an unusually bold thing for governor to do).

Without going into all of the details, Perry is something of a conservative with some RINO tendencies. Currently, Perry is trending strongly to the right. He isn’t my first, second, or third choice, but he is better than Romney, Gingrich, Huntsman, Daniels (who is not getting in), Trump (who is out for now), and Pawlenty. He is also more electable than people I like better.


30 posted on 06/11/2011 1:16:25 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

NYT PLEADS:ANYONE BUT PALIN!!!

Lmao.


31 posted on 06/11/2011 1:25:35 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: MinorityRepublican

That’s just silly.

There are several candidates that could beat Obama like a red haired stepchild...

Pawlenty, Cain, Romney, & Palin.


32 posted on 06/11/2011 1:26:21 PM PDT by proudpapa (Palin-West - 2012)
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To: proudpapa

copy cat

*grin*


33 posted on 06/11/2011 1:27:43 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I think the left (and some on the right [are you listening, Carl?]) are being schooled in what is the real Sarah Palin as opposed to what is the product of a knee-jerk syndrome. As this continues, her ‘unelectability’ with decrease.
34 posted on 06/11/2011 1:29:29 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: MinorityRepublican

That’s just silly.

There are several candidates that could beat Obama like a red haired stepchild...

Pawlenty, Cain, Romney, & Palin.


35 posted on 06/11/2011 1:29:40 PM PDT by proudpapa (Palin-West - 2012)
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To: achilles2000

“He is also more electable than people I like better.”

That’s what I’m thinking. And he has to be an improvement over Obama!


36 posted on 06/11/2011 1:34:52 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: achilles2000

Perry lurks to the rino side until election time , then he talks all tough and conservative. He's a finger in the wind politician who can't be trusted.


37 posted on 06/11/2011 1:43:14 PM PDT by RED SOUTH (Follow me on twitter @redsouth72)
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To: proudpapa

Read this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2733359/posts


38 posted on 06/11/2011 1:45:05 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2726328/posts

Take a look.


39 posted on 06/11/2011 1:45:18 PM PDT by onona (I play hockey)
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To: UniqueViews
Actually Democrats very much want Palin to run...

So the reason they're trying so desperately to find incriminating evidence in the Alaska email dump is because they want her to run?

Logic isn't your strong suit, is it?

40 posted on 06/11/2011 1:55:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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