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Obama Has Challenges in Florida
Real Clear Politics ^ | June 11, 2011 | Brendan Farrington

Posted on 06/12/2011 5:20:04 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

President Barack Obama has problems in Florida that he didn't have when he won this pivotal swing state in 2008.

The economy here is worse than elsewhere. Foreclosures are high. Property values are low. And, now that he's the president, Obama could be blamed.

Voters' shifting attitudes underscore the degree to which the atmosphere has changed since his first campaign; Florida Democrats made gains in the 2008 elections with Obama on the top of the ticket, but the GOP won big across the state just two years later.

All that explains why Florida Democrats are redoubling their efforts to re-energize the rank and file - including Saturday at the state party's Jefferson-Jackson Dinner - and why Obama's campaign team has been on the ground training volunteers a full 17 months before the election.

The challenges also explain why Obama, himself, has been such a frequent visitor to the Sunshine State.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


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1 posted on 06/12/2011 5:20:06 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: JulieRNR21; randita; ExTexasRedhead; justiceseeker93; Impy; AuH2ORepublican; LdSentinal; ...

Obama only won Florida over McCain by 50% to 48%. With Indiana and North Carolina off the table, he’ll have to win it this time.


2 posted on 06/12/2011 5:21:56 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I agree.

Baraq loses any 2-way matchup, guaranteed.

What worries me is the potential for a 3-way race and Baraq winning a Clintonian plurality.

I do believe the Baraqqi Coalition can pull 37% or so of the vote.


3 posted on 06/12/2011 5:26:37 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Clintonfatigued

As bad as Florida’s economy is going, it’s citizens would be nuts to reelect the idiot Obama, but people do stupid things.


4 posted on 06/12/2011 5:26:37 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Clintonfatigued
With Indiana and North Carolina off the table, he’ll have to win it this time.

Not happening, unless those Liberal/Marxist/Democrats in S. Florida jam the ballot boxes again.

5 posted on 06/12/2011 5:26:58 PM PDT by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Obuggery is not even going to be competitive in Florida this time.
6 posted on 06/12/2011 5:29:19 PM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: DarthVader; GOPsterinMA

“Obuggery is not even going to be competitive in Florida this time.”

That is a comforting thougth. I don’t think it should be taken for granted.


7 posted on 06/12/2011 5:32:20 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Barry the Soros Puppet is cooked this time.

Gov Scott and the GOP state houses passed a series of new voter laws cleaning up/restricting voter registration , IDs, and limiting early voting.

Crist literally gave FL to the ACORN Marxist by extending voting hours and not stopping Acorn- dem party registration fraud.

Scott has stopped it all well in advance of 2012. We need to demand an investigation of Crist and his 2008 action to leave the polls open for Barry. I would like to know how much Soros paid him or was it something else ?

8 posted on 06/12/2011 5:37:18 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: ncalburt

Has he reinstated the lifetime voting ban for felons. I thought that was a terrific law. As an aside, I didn’t know Florida real estate was that depressed. I wonder where the best bargains can be found?


9 posted on 06/12/2011 5:40:03 PM PDT by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: MSF BU

Bargains in real estate all over FL. You can buy a 20 year old single family home, and I mean single family with a small plot of land, not a trailer, for $80K in Panama City. I have seen duplexes go for $40K there. zip code 32401


10 posted on 06/12/2011 5:54:42 PM PDT by japaneseghost
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To: Clintonfatigued

Bummer only just won 2008, with all the money and hopeychangy they could muster.

This is the 1-termiest 1-termer EVER.

If he wins, votes no longer count in America.


11 posted on 06/12/2011 5:58:03 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: ncalburt

I’m glad to hear Florida will have good election laws, as written. But what about her make it up as they go Supreme Court. Has Gov. Scott done enough to prevent progressive meddling via your courts?


12 posted on 06/12/2011 5:58:49 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I’m in Orlando. Obama took Orlando in 2008. He’s not even going to be close in 2012.


13 posted on 06/12/2011 6:03:20 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Clintonfatigued

Nothing should be taken for granted. Every state is a battleground, to at least some extent.


14 posted on 06/12/2011 6:04:46 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Clintonfatigued

Yeah, he only won Florida by 50% to 48%. And that was in a year where he should have won by a landslide in FL, given how well Democrats did all over the country.
So...there is hope in FL. Still, can’t take it for granted.


15 posted on 06/12/2011 6:05:27 PM PDT by floridavoter2
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To: japaneseghost

Then I assume time shares in the same area are going for virtually nothing.


16 posted on 06/12/2011 6:11:19 PM PDT by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: MSF BU

http://capesanblasblog.com

Ridiculous foreclosure sale prices.


17 posted on 06/12/2011 6:20:15 PM PDT by Jacquerie
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To: Clintonfatigued; DarthVader

Agreed CF...never forget 2000!


18 posted on 06/12/2011 6:25:57 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Don’t let anyone try to fool you. 2012 will be and even bigger wave election than 2012. Then we will have a chance to hand that POST Obama his own ass! Highly motivating!


19 posted on 06/12/2011 6:34:39 PM PDT by WMarshal (Where is the next Sam Adams?)
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To: Clintonfatigued

“...And, now that he’s the president, Obama could be blamed....”

Ya think?

Wow. Real Clear Politics has landed on planet obvious.


20 posted on 06/12/2011 6:37:47 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Clintonfatigued

It’s going to be an all out blitz in FL of Medi-scare ads. But Dems are starting so early on Medi-scare, that people may be numb to it by the time the election rolls around. That’s pretty much all they’ve got to run on, and people can take only so much.


21 posted on 06/12/2011 6:59:28 PM PDT by randita
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To: Clintonfatigued
Received a recent email of google maps with 20 of the worst cities, will try to embed the Florida ones. The rest are Boise, ID; several in CA, NV, AZ, 20 maps in all including one for the whole USA.

Sarasota, FL, 1 in 21 homes foreclosed:

Lakeland, FL, 1 in 21 homes foreclosed::

Tampa, FL, 1 in 20 homes foreclosed:

Port St. Lucie, FL, 1 in 19 homes foreclosed:

Naples, FL, 1 in 18 homes foreclosed:

Deltona, FL, 1 in 17 homes foreclosed:

Orlando, FL, 1 in 15 homes foreclosed:

Miami, FL, 1 in 14 homes foreclosed:

Cape Coral, FL, 1 in 12 homes foreclosed:


22 posted on 06/12/2011 7:02:37 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Clintonfatigued

A house in my neighborhood in south Fla. was appraised at 850k a few years ago. It was sold at a bank auction a few months ago at $275k. Most of the Keys are like that.


23 posted on 06/12/2011 7:10:04 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911

Ouch! Some relatives are having improvements done. I hope they aren’t in vain.


24 posted on 06/12/2011 7:13:25 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: nascarnation

“What worries me is the potential for a 3-way race”

That is their best hope. They will have to hope or create a “conservative” third party candidate to siphon votes away to ensure Obumbo will win.


25 posted on 06/12/2011 7:38:12 PM PDT by garjog
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To: rodguy911
Inlaws just bought a nice condo in Fla. for 65K... the lady who sold it lives in one and had bought 2 more at 180K ea. a few yrs back as “investments”...She Paid 240K for her original one and thought she'd make some easy money...
26 posted on 06/12/2011 7:42:59 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: M-cubed

It’s even worse in Key West. Condos selling for 650k a few yeas ago are routinely foreclosed on at 150-175k with monthly maintenance fees skyrocketing since the places are not longer fully sold.


27 posted on 06/12/2011 7:47:59 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Hard to tell. Most liekly scenario for real estate to make a come back is when the dollar is worth about half of what it is now in a few years.


28 posted on 06/12/2011 7:59:17 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911
How about boats in Fla?....I'm looking for a small (under45’) houseboat or Trawler....Being a notoriously cheap “Downeast Swamp Yankee Snowbird” I'm looking for firesale prices....
29 posted on 06/12/2011 8:03:49 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Clintonfatigued

Some Democrats claim that Rick Scott’s unpopularity will spill over into the presidential are. I don’t think it will be much of a factor.


30 posted on 06/12/2011 8:19:11 PM PDT by Borough Park
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To: Clintonfatigued

People forget how close 2008 actually was....Red states gain 14 Electoral Votes due to reapportionment off the census, all they need is Florida Ohio and any other one state...this is totally doable.


31 posted on 06/12/2011 8:19:29 PM PDT by cookcounty (Would someone PLEASE give the President a calculator for his birthday???)
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To: cookcounty

Rick Scott only beat alex sink by 2% of the vote for governor.

And in Broward county where I live, 66% went for sink. Of course this is dws district 20. help boot her

http://www.karenforcongress.com


32 posted on 06/12/2011 8:49:10 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( Ft. Lauderdale Florida)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Let’s make the headline less wordy.

Obama is challenged


33 posted on 06/12/2011 8:51:42 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Clintonfatigued

I’m concerned about a repeat of 2000...with a close contested election.

Fortunately, our legislature just passed some new election laws that should curb voter fraud.

Not taking anything for granted...we all need to work very hard to REPEAL OBAMA in 2012!


34 posted on 06/12/2011 9:00:08 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (The Constitution is an instrument to protect 'We the People' from the government..)
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To: Scotswife

Very amusing. Is your husband from Scotland?


35 posted on 06/12/2011 9:26:45 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Obama's campaign team has been on the ground training volunteers a full 17 months before the election.

My concern is "what" are they training them to do? Cheat like hell and steal the election?
36 posted on 06/12/2011 9:29:44 PM PDT by no dems (When I learn that a person, regardless of who they are, is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: nascarnation

I pray that Donald Trump does NOT run as and Independent and split the anti-Obama vote.


37 posted on 06/12/2011 9:30:52 PM PDT by no dems (When I learn that a person, regardless of who they are, is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: no dems

You make a very good point.


38 posted on 06/12/2011 9:33:47 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: nascarnation
I do believe the Baraqqi Coalition can pull 37% or so of the vote.

Unfortunately, I think the absolute guaranteed rat minimum vote is probably at 40% these days. Back in 1992, it was probably in the mid 30's. So, all the rats and msm need to do is support a third party candidate to such an extent that he can get into the upper teens. Then, an obamao victory can be assured -- now matter how bad the economy is and now matter how impressive the GOP candidate is.

So the question is: will Trump be able to repeat Perot's 1992 -uh- "success"?

39 posted on 06/12/2011 9:44:36 PM PDT by rhinohunter
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To: Clintonfatigued

no he isn’t - he signed in one night and started a conversation. He got interrupted and asked me to continue the conversation without him - hence my FReeper id was born ;)


40 posted on 06/12/2011 9:46:44 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Traveler59
With Indiana and North Carolina off the table

Also recall that the the Omaha CD is off the table along with 6 votes from reapportionment. Also recall that a tie will win in 2012 whereas it would have lost in 2008. That basically cuts obamao's margin by over a third -- from 96.5 down to 62.5.

Note that almost half of the remaining margin is represented by Florida's 29 votes.

41 posted on 06/12/2011 10:06:15 PM PDT by rhinohunter
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To: japaneseghost

Here north of Tampa very nice homes are going for a lot less. There are some really nice four bedrooms in not bad areas with pools and all such for 60K.


42 posted on 06/13/2011 12:09:12 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: M-cubed

Don’t know of any right off.


43 posted on 06/13/2011 5:05:48 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: pallis

Personally I thought the nation was gooey fruitcake nutty to reelect Bill Clinton and Obama makes Clinton look like Reagan by comparison.


44 posted on 06/13/2011 5:58:46 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: WMarshal

WTF?


45 posted on 06/13/2011 6:00:26 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: pallis

why do you think obama is pushing the settment against the banks.

if obama can force principle reduction and checks to borrowers who have or may be forclosed then he gets bonus points.


46 posted on 06/13/2011 12:36:21 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: M-cubed

it is insane to buy condos or hoa homes in FL.

the fees not paid to foclosed units go on the backs of the remaining owners.


47 posted on 06/13/2011 12:40:57 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: rhinohunter; no dems

I think it’s very unlikely that Trump would run as an independent because that would be on his own money.
I believe the Don likes to use others $$$.


48 posted on 06/13/2011 1:38:50 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: MSF BU
Has he reinstated the lifetime voting ban for felons. I thought that was a terrific law.

Why is a lifetime voting ban a good thing? At what point does a criminal finally pay for his crimes? Never?

49 posted on 06/13/2011 5:13:18 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: no dems

“My concern is “what” are they training them to do? Cheat like hell and steal the election?”
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Of course not, they are being trained in sweetness and light, they plan to sprinkle daisies in the path of the Republicans and overcome the opposition with kindness.


50 posted on 06/13/2011 6:23:05 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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