Skip to comments.B-17 Bomber Bound For Indiana Crashes
Posted on 06/13/2011 10:54:02 AM PDT by FunkyZero
OSWEGO, Ill. -- A B-17 bomber that dates to World War II crashed and burned in a cornfield outside Chicago on Monday as it was headed to Indiana. Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory said aviation officials believe the seven people on board the plane escaped uninjured.
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We lost another one.
The original flying fortress.
Man, that sucks.
That’s a damn shame to lose one of those. I wonder if NTSB will do a full report, considering that bird saw war.
I hate that.
A total loss with lot of donated time and energy went in to that historic piece of military aviation history, but thankfully the crew walked away unhurt.
Thank God it’s not the one owned by the foundation here in MA. Going to ride in it this year if it’s here.
I’m pretty sure it was in Cincinnati Saturday morning. Saw a big 4 engine silver plane with yellow markings climbing out and heading west. The noise and size caught my attention, but it was to far away to tell if it was a B-17.
"Liberty Belle" was scheduled to fly June 18-19th for Father's Day at Indy Regional Airport.
Here's a better story, apparently a fire on board:
Reportedly, this was the “Liberty Belle”.
Any idea which one it was? I took my son to see “Aluminum Overcast” that was visiting Seattle over the Memorial Day Weekend.
If memory serves me correctly (which isn't so reliable anymore), there are only about 1/2 dozen of them flying. This is a pretty huge loss.
Darn. I was looking forward to hearing about a succesful bombing run on Gary, IN.
Disgusting to think of how many of these we ground up into scrap after the war.
So sad to lose one of the few remaining “Flying Forts.” Once they filled the skies over Europe.
Just this weekend, I was watching a documentary about the B-17’s and the 8th Air Force......indication was made that the 8th lost more men than did the Marine Corps in the Pacific - now, that’s a new one on me.
So it wasn't one of the new ones.
In addition to KIA and wounded, they are probably counting POW’s in the “losses.” The Marines didn’t have many POW’s in the Pacific. But if you figure the average number of planes on a mission, the number of crew per plane, and the percentage of aircraft lost per mission, over time it adds up. Not to mention the killed and wounded on the planes that made it back to England.
Was this plane part of the Confederate Air force?? In anyt case it is such a terrible shame to see even one of these magnificent warbirds lost. From the looks of it there is little left to salvage...
>>I took my son to see Aluminum Overcast that was visiting Seattle over the Memorial Day Weekend.<<
I was at an estate sale and heard that thing fly over. I said to my wife (also a plane buff), “That sounds like a B-17.”
And it was...
Glad I took the kids to see/tour a B-17 and B-24 last summer at the Oxford (CT) airport. Worth it!
Somebody once did a calculation as to how many resources were diverted from the US Army by the Strategic Bombing Campaign against Germany. It was astounding how many more troops & equipment could have been fielded. Of course a lot of the equipment the US did produce was being used to equip the Soviets and the Free French Army, so really it was a question of where all the highly-skilled manpower went.
How would anyone be able to tell?
Probably hit by stray shots from an Amish drive-by on the South Side.
Per The Mighty Eighth Air Force museum: The 8th AF suffered one-half of the U.S. Army Air Forces casualties in World War II (47,000-plus casualties with more than 26,000 deaths). The Eighths personnel also earned 17 Medals of Honor, 220 Distinguished Service Crosses, 850 Silver Stars, 7,000 Purple Hearts 46,000 Air Medals.
By the way, in the Schweinfurt-Regensberg raid of August 1943, the 8th Air Force lost the equivalent of a whole battalion of (600)men in one day.
I hope it wasn’t “Old Fuddy Duddy”. It’s a shame to lose any of them, but Fuddy Duddy was a favorite at WWII vintage airshows.
They were offering flights on this plane at the upcoming air show. Lucky the crash didn’t happen with paying customer aboard. That would have just added to the tragedy.
My dad served as a waist guner on a B17 during WWII.
I never got to see that one.
But I did get to see “Nine O Nine”.
Thank you for the link. I think. Such a loss and it’s awful to see.
I actually flew on the “Nine O Nine” a few years ago when they were in Norwood Ma.
It was a once in a lifetime experience.
I haven’t gotten to fly on one yet.
But I did get to climb through them while on the ground.
I was amazed at how little space there is on those things!
Oh no. I’ve seen Liberty Belle several times. She was a majestic bird. Not many of her kind left. Every one lost is a piece of history gone.
My missus is 5’1” and she was quite comfortable inside Nine O Nine.
I’m only four inches taller and I smacked my head.
He never talked about it until he was quite elderly. Just came home, went back to work and raised his family. He rests with the thousands of his brothers in arms in Arlington National Cemetery.
By a pretty good number, actually. Official USMC dead in WW2 is 19,733. 8th Air Force dead is 23,806. Counting wounded, MIA and POWs gives 67,000 Marines and 62,000 8th Air Force. Plus the 8th was a far smaller unit, manpower-wise, than the USMC. The actual air crew strength of the 8th was about 135,000, compared to the USMC's 475,000 by war's end.
The air crews were certainly more likely to become POWs than Marines, but they were also far more likely to be killed.
They built 12,000 of them. About a dozen can still fly today.
I just got word that my wifes sisters father in law had a stroke.
He is a old WW2 pilot, my father in law is a WW2 pilot also,myself I flew for money.
I find irony and greatness, The Liberty Belle went down today and so did Poppy, both will be greatly missed.
The hum of four Pratt & Whitney R-1690 engines isn’t something you hear everyday. Sounds like victory.
Prayers for Poppy. He and your father-in-law deserve our praise and gratitude.
They don’t make planes—or men—like that anymore.
I flew T-38's and King Airs.................I never did what those 2 old gentelmen did.
That seemed to be the norm for that generation. I used to ask my dad about his experience and all he would say is, “We had a job to do, we did it and we came home.”
The only time he I ever saw him get emotional about war in general was when I told him I was going to enlist in the Navy during Viet Nam. He very heatedly told me no I was not. He had fought a war so his son wouldn’t have to and I was going to college. End of argument.
I don’t suppose we will ever know the horrors these men, very young men at the time (my dad was 20 when the war started), saw and endured.
I used to live out by Indianapolis Regional Airport (nee’ Mount Comfort Airport) where they stage these shows. One day I was outside and heard the drone of the engines and looked for the plane. it took at least 5 minutes before it came into view. I remembering thinking what did a 1000 plane raid sound like? The Germans had to hear them coming when the crossed the Channel.
They are using some of these remaining planes to provide “Vet Flights” for WWII veterans. My father was privileged to go on one last year and it was quite a thrill for him. He is 92 years old. He wasn’t a pilot in the war, but did get shipped to England in a B17.
At takeoff, they sound just like they did in the movies...sent chills down my back.
Looks like an omen.